AAP appeal declined

[Anonymous]

Let me guess OP— Western county private Montessori elementary school that serves an exclusively Indian American population.

It does does not use the secure Fairfax County version of the Cogat, and has every single one of their 2nd graders test into the 99% on the Cogat and NNAT? Right?

Remember the scandal my 8th grade DD’s year (so 6 years ago) where kids in these schools were found have been prepped using the actual test? I do— it’s why DD’s AAP class was huge. FCPS does. It’s why they had to develop the Secure Fairfax County CogAt.

They told you why they didn’t accept the CogAt/NNAT. It isn’t that there is a quota coming out of your kids private school, per se. It’s that they don’t think you have valid test scores. Because they don’t believe that in a class of 20 kids every single one is in the top 1%.

As for the appeal by Dr. Dahlgren. Maybe it was unintentional. But you picked a, ummmm, controversial tester.

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/545383.page

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/90/554954.page#8892044

OP— if you are on the up and up give FCPS transparent scores the can rely on. Maybe the Cogat and WSC scores are legit. But from FCPS’s perspective, they look super sketchy.

You have to wait a certain amount of time between WISCs. So start 3rd grade in GE. Ask for an FCPS administration of the CogAT next fall and get a GMU administration of the WISC next fall. Your kids FCPS teacher and AART can do a GBRS. If the scores hold up, your kid will be admitted in the fall and can switch to an AAP classroom or Oak Hill in the spring. Or in 4th grade if you would rather. A GE classroom at Floris will be fine for a semester or a year.

Your kid has a much better chance getting in for 4th grade if you transfer to Floris, where they can get a GBRS and CogAt they trust. If you stay in private, GET THE WISC DONE BY GMU.

[Anonymous]

^^ BTW— I have had 2 kids go through Oak Hill AAP. One now at Carson. One at TJ. So this is based on years of first hand experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let me guess OP— Western county private Montessori elementary school that serves an exclusively Indian American population.

It does does not use the secure Fairfax County version of the Cogat, and has every single one of their 2nd graders test into the 99% on the Cogat and NNAT? Right?

Remember the scandal my 8th grade DD’s year (so 6 years ago) where kids in these schools were found have been prepped using the actual test? I do— it’s why DD’s AAP class was huge. FCPS does. It’s why they had to develop the Secure Fairfax County CogAt.

They told you why they didn’t accept the CogAt/NNAT. It isn’t that there is a quota coming out of your kids private school, per se. It’s that they don’t think you have valid test scores. Because they don’t believe that in a class of 20 kids every single one is in the top 1%.

As for the appeal by Dr. Dahlgren. Maybe it was unintentional. But you picked a, ummmm, controversial tester.

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/545383.page

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/90/554954.page#8892044

OP— if you are on the up and up give FCPS transparent scores the can rely on. Maybe the Cogat and WSC scores are legit. But from FCPS’s perspective, they look super sketchy.

You have to wait a certain amount of time between WISCs. So start 3rd grade in GE. Ask for an FCPS administration of the CogAT next fall and get a GMU administration of the WISC next fall. Your kids FCPS teacher and AART can do a GBRS. If the scores hold up, your kid will be admitted in the fall and can switch to an AAP classroom or Oak Hill in the spring. Or in 4th grade if you would rather. A GE classroom at Floris will be fine for a semester or a year.

Your kid has a much better chance getting in for 4th grade if you transfer to Floris, where they can get a GBRS and CogAt they trust. If you stay in private, GET THE WISC DONE BY GMU.

Damn, why did it take 22 pages to get to the heart of it? Thanks PP. This explains a lot. Sounds like the AAP coordinator was being polite by dodging OP's questions about the WISC administration.

[Anonymous]

What's the name of this school?

[Anonymous]

Op here

My bad, meant to say chess teacher
He goes to chess in after school care and also training over weekend

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let me guess OP— Western county private Montessori elementary school that serves an exclusively Indian American population.

It does does not use the secure Fairfax County version of the Cogat, and has every single one of their 2nd graders test into the 99% on the Cogat and NNAT? Right?

Remember the scandal my 8th grade DD’s year (so 6 years ago) where kids in these schools were found have been prepped using the actual test? I do— it’s why DD’s AAP class was huge. FCPS does. It’s why they had to develop the Secure Fairfax County CogAt.

They told you why they didn’t accept the CogAt/NNAT. It isn’t that there is a quota coming out of your kids private school, per se. It’s that they don’t think you have valid test scores. Because they don’t believe that in a class of 20 kids every single one is in the top 1%.

As for the appeal by Dr. Dahlgren. Maybe it was unintentional. But you picked a, ummmm, controversial tester.

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/545383.page

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/90/554954.page#8892044

OP— if you are on the up and up give FCPS transparent scores the can rely on. Maybe the Cogat and WSC scores are legit. But from FCPS’s perspective, they look super sketchy.

You have to wait a certain amount of time between WISCs. So start 3rd grade in GE. Ask for an FCPS administration of the CogAT next fall and get a GMU administration of the WISC next fall. Your kids FCPS teacher and AART can do a GBRS. If the scores hold up, your kid will be admitted in the fall and can switch to an AAP classroom or Oak Hill in the spring. Or in 4th grade if you would rather. A GE classroom at Floris will be fine for a semester or a year.

Your kid has a much better chance getting in for 4th grade if you transfer to Floris, where they can get a GBRS and CogAt they trust. If you stay in private, GET THE WISC DONE BY GMU.

Op here

Thank you

Great inputs , we were not aware of the controversy or kids being prepped with actual test . By the way he is not going to the school mentioned above

We are moving him to floris as we don’t want to go through this once again. Feel the same way he has better chance to aap from floris rather than from private

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's the name of this school?

Reston Montessori school??

[Anonymous]

Our AART teacher also mentioned they like to see WISC from GMU.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let me guess OP— Western county private Montessori elementary school that serves an exclusively Indian American population.

It does does not use the secure Fairfax County version of the Cogat, and has every single one of their 2nd graders test into the 99% on the Cogat and NNAT? Right?

Remember the scandal my 8th grade DD’s year (so 6 years ago) where kids in these schools were found have been prepped using the actual test? I do— it’s why DD’s AAP class was huge. FCPS does. It’s why they had to develop the Secure Fairfax County CogAt.

They told you why they didn’t accept the CogAt/NNAT. It isn’t that there is a quota coming out of your kids private school, per se. It’s that they don’t think you have valid test scores. Because they don’t believe that in a class of 20 kids every single one is in the top 1%.

As for the appeal by Dr. Dahlgren. Maybe it was unintentional. But you picked a, ummmm, controversial tester.

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/545383.page

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/90/554954.page#8892044

OP— if you are on the up and up give FCPS transparent scores the can rely on. Maybe the Cogat and WSC scores are legit. But from FCPS’s perspective, they look super sketchy.

You have to wait a certain amount of time between WISCs. So start 3rd grade in GE. Ask for an FCPS administration of the CogAT next fall and get a GMU administration of the WISC next fall. Your kids FCPS teacher and AART can do a GBRS. If the scores hold up, your kid will be admitted in the fall and can switch to an AAP classroom or Oak Hill in the spring. Or in 4th grade if you would rather. A GE classroom at Floris will be fine for a semester or a year.

Your kid has a much better chance getting in for 4th grade if you transfer to Floris, where they can get a GBRS and CogAt they trust. If you stay in private, GET THE WISC DONE BY GMU.

Finally, this thread was dragging for long and pretty sure just like those private classes for Cogat/NNAT, now I know there are private schools who has simplified the process ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let me guess OP— Western county private Montessori elementary school that serves an exclusively Indian American population.

It does does not use the secure Fairfax County version of the Cogat, and has every single one of their 2nd graders test into the 99% on the Cogat and NNAT? Right?

Remember the scandal my 8th grade DD’s year (so 6 years ago) where kids in these schools were found have been prepped using the actual test? I do— it’s why DD’s AAP class was huge. FCPS does. It’s why they had to develop the Secure Fairfax County CogAt.

They told you why they didn’t accept the CogAt/NNAT. It isn’t that there is a quota coming out of your kids private school, per se. It’s that they don’t think you have valid test scores. Because they don’t believe that in a class of 20 kids every single one is in the top 1%.

As for the appeal by Dr. Dahlgren. Maybe it was unintentional. But you picked a, ummmm, controversial tester.

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/545383.page

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/90/554954.page#8892044

OP— if you are on the up and up give FCPS transparent scores the can rely on. Maybe the Cogat and WSC scores are legit. But from FCPS’s perspective, they look super sketchy.

You have to wait a certain amount of time between WISCs. So start 3rd grade in GE. Ask for an FCPS administration of the CogAT next fall and get a GMU administration of the WISC next fall. Your kids FCPS teacher and AART can do a GBRS. If the scores hold up, your kid will be admitted in the fall and can switch to an AAP classroom or Oak Hill in the spring. Or in 4th grade if you would rather. A GE classroom at Floris will be fine for a semester or a year.

Your kid has a much better chance getting in for 4th grade if you transfer to Floris, where they can get a GBRS and CogAt they trust. If you stay in private, GET THE WISC DONE BY GMU.

Finally, this thread was dragging for long and pretty sure just like those private classes for Cogat/NNAT, now I know there are private schools who has simplified the process ?

“Simplified the process” is one way to put it. Pretty sure their party line is filling in the gap from K-2, until 3rd, when kids can be properly served by an AAP classroom. But yes, the idea is K-2 private. Then 3rd and higherin AAP. Or Nysmith if necessary.

[Anonymous]

“Only group ability test results from FCPS, George Mason University (GMU), or other school districts will be accepted.“

FCPS does not accept results from tests administered by individual schools (assuming such a thing is possible).

[Anonymous]

Floris has LLIV. You should meet with the principal and ask about principal placement into an AAP classroom. If necessary, you could get a Stanford Binet or a Kaufman from GMU to reinforce that your child belongs in AAP. Your son won't be eligible to retake the WISC within 12 months of his previous test, so you can't do the WISC at GMU right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's the name of this school?

Reston Montessori school??

WTF? Asian Indian cheaters? We should ban them all from AAP and TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's the name of this school?

Reston Montessori school??

WTF? Asian Indian cheaters? We should ban them all from AAP and TJ.

You should probably take this entire thread with a large grain of salt.

[Anonymous]

Jesus, people! Don’t be so gullible. FCPS does not accept test results from just any school, only school districts.