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google maps from Jersey Lane in Fallsgrove: to RP - 6min to Beall - 6min to CG - 8min google Maps from Cheeburger Cheeburger in Fallsgrove: to RP - 8min to Beall 8min to CG - 9min This does not take into consideration the traffic nightmare that is RT28 in the morning and afternoon which would add a few minutes to both Beall and CG routes. Either way, giving the entire 200 kids out of Fallsgrove to Beall would require almost 1/3 of Beall to move elsewhere. And since RP2 is walkable to RM#5, that means RP would lost about 2/3 of their students and all of the FARMS kids (it would be down to about 4%) with those two moves. So they need massive amounts of areas (most of Beall) to make up for it. The closest sections do not have high FARMS so then they would have to take B8 which is further and a TB section and CG section? I mean this is so insane. |
Northern part is too far to walk. Many community members from all parts from RP2 expressed concern over assumption that it's walk able. It's listed in report. |
It’s 0.8 mile walking distance from northern most part of RP2 |
Actually it would be more than a 1/3 moving from Beall to take in the entire Fallsgrove neighborhood. It would require massive shifting and areas from all over being bussed to further schools. And the way traffic is in this area? |
So unless you have to cross a major road, that is deemed walkable. So they get a brand new school, want low FARMS in a high FARM neighborhood and they want the county to pay for busses for 0.8 miles or less when other schools all over the county and even in our cluster do not have that luxury. |
You have a wrong information. Northernmost part is longer than 0.8 miles. |
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Many voices outside of RM cluster have expressed deep concerns about intentionally creating economic segregation schools which goes against the stated goal of MCPS. Here are two relevant lines from MCPS .
- Guidance in MCPS Regulation FAA-RA to “promote the creation of a diverse student body in each of the affected schools,” - MCPS Regulation FAA-RA states that boundary plans walking access to the school should be maximized and transportation distances minimized when other factors do not require otherwise.” Socioeconomic diversity is one of the the main factor and if it means you sacrifice distance then you do sacrifice. Ignoring socioeconomic diversity and focusing solely on distance will be a violation of MCPS regulation. Even now, you can find 100s of examples where distance is sacrificed for other factors. There is no reason to not to do the same in RM#5. Intentionally we should not be creating economically segregated schools. RP is losing all socioeconomic diversity and at the same time we are putting all poor kids in one place to create a second high poverty school in RM cluster. It's unfair to students attending RP and it will be unfair for students attending RM#5 to attend economically segregated schools. A large number of parents and organizations have spoken against the economic segregation of kids. MCPS has stated goal as well to not create such situations. |
So they should start bussing kids out of Potomac and Bethesda school's to other locations and bring in some FARMS there. If that is the main goal why are those schools allowed to have 2% or less FARMS and others have 80+%? Why haven't they fixed those school's all these years? How come Twinbrook hasn't been rezoned all of these years? Just stop with making every school perfectly SES compatible even if it means bussing kids all over the city or county and disrupting every single school and moving 30-50% in and out. It is a waste of the already tight budget, the environment, traffic, and community. You act like 42% in a low income area like RM5 is a huge deal. It isn't. Are you this vocal for Twinbrook? Are you this vocal for Lelack ES which is 93% FARMS? There are so many other schools that are completely lopsided in the county. Attempting to start a whole new process for the 42% when another school already has more FARMS is insulting and is a waste of taxpayers money and time. |
Do you realize that we are talking about kids within RM cluster where no one lives 20 miles apart? Do you realize that currently the same poor kids attend RP and Beall with FARMs of around 25%? We are talking about community within one high school who are relatively short distance to each other. Now taking the same community and creating an economically segregated schools when majority don't want that to happen will be a wrong thing to do. Busing kids from Silver spring to Potomac will be absurd because no one wants to see 1 hour bus ride. All bus rides within RM cluster will be like 5-10 minutes. TwinBrook was not rezoned because not a single community from TwinBrook wanted to be rezoned. If you don't know why they prefer it then I will suggest spending some time to read all inputs from different community. If you are short in time, I will help you here. It's related with Title 1. If TwinBrook was around 50% without any hope of getting title 1 then you could have compared it with RM#5 situation. Situation at RM#5 is drastically different. Same kids attend 25% FARMs school right now. Forcing them attend 53% FARMs school is simply saying that it's fine to ignore kids from Rm#5. Multiple communities from different zones from entire RM cluster have spoken loudly against it. RM#5 will have no hope of getting Title 1 any time in near future. You are comparing apple to oranges here. Let's not equate RM#5 situation with TwinBrook or one hour bus ride to 5 minutes of bus rides. Let's create the best possible environment for all kids in RM cluster . Creating RP with 10% FARMs and then creating another one with 53% FARMs will be a step in wrong direction. Every kid deserve the best possible outcome, be it rich or poor. |
| While some parents from RP may be happy to see balanced schools being changed to economically segregated schools, everyone in RP doesn't want to lose socioeconomic diversity. |
Are you in the cluster? Because 10 min bus ride is a mythical creature not in existence here. We live less than 2 miles away from school and bus ride is anywhere from 15 to 25 min. 355 traffic is horrible. Bussing kids from further out is a disservice to the kids. No one wants to sit on the bus for 30+ min. |
Really? Then why hasn't anyone in our cluster cared that CG has had 14% FARMS and Twinbrook has had 70% for the last two decades? And if we are going to say Twinbrook loves their Title 1, then let's keep the CI program in CG and move CG3 into Beall and B7 into RM#5. Then two schools can have Title 1 that they love so much. Win for everybody!! But my guess is, you don't care about anyone else but yourself and your school. So stop the BS routine of caring when all you want is to not have a high FARMS school in your high FARMS neighborhood. |
I am not from RP. I am from Beall and I think this is complete nonsense. If they want to come up with better options, the map is going to be all over the place and every school including mine and Twinbrook, will have massive disruptions and far drives to even out the playing field. Because the only options that I see are moving high FARMS areas out out of Twinbrook and Beall to RP and CG. And since those areas are closer to other schools, they will have to trade with non-FARMS areas like mine to also be bussed away from their closer schools to elsewhere. They will also have to bus kids further away to go into RM5 because the entire surrounding area is low income. The only reason RP even had FARMS was because of RP2. It is walkable to RM5. That isn't their fault. The only reason CG has FARMS is because of the small amount of apartments near the school. They are suburb schools that consist of single family homes. Families on FARMS do not live in single family homes. The schools closer to the urban areas and small homes, condos, and apartments have higher FARMS. That is how the whole county is. That is why there is no FARMS in Potomac, Darnestown, Poolesville.... I don't want entire areas pulled all over the place. I don't know of any other cluster that does this and we have some of the worst traffic. I think the cost would be expensive and the busses can not get to areas earlier to make up for the time because they are hauling in kids from middle school. Not to mention if a bus in only picking up one cluster far away that only half fills a bus, where else do they go to fill that bus. Are parents ready for Tier 2 kids to not walk in from their bus stop until 4:45pm? Making up 10-20min extra routes to help the FARMS by maybe 10% some places, seems impossible for the bus service and something the school budget shouldn't have to pay more for. |
Totally untrue! Some people in RP absolutely don’t want to lose ses diversity. |
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There are already limited busses and our school currently has 1 bus making 2 routes. They pick up the first set of kids who live close by and then the bus driver goes back to pick the kids up about 20min after school is over and takes those kids furthest from the school home. My guess is the final bus stop gets home about an hour after school ends.
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