Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:I would never advocate for violence and, of course, think this is incredibly wrong, but I am having a very hard time feeling sorry for a man who publically stated that he was ok with someone else dying if he got to keep his gun. I guess he feels that it's ok for him to die too so other people can keep their guns? Or does that make him an unprincipled hypocrite?

Before you come at me about his children, yes, I feel bad for them. They don't deserve him for a father. But did he feel bad for the children who died as a result of gun violence?


I'm too against violence. Maybe pro-gun folks should be asked this question - are you okay being shot by someone who is not supposed to have guns?


My guess is that liek everything else with the MAGA, currently, it's not ok if it happens to THEM!!!
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Anonymous wrote:People realize this isn’t good for Democrats and this country, right?

If he survives, the right will take it as a sign from God about his righteousness and they will double-down on anything against the Bible. He’ll likely run in 2028 as an actual Handmaiden’s Type candidate. FWIW people online are saying he’s stabilized now….

If he dies, it’s a rallying cry for the far-right to target liberals similarly.

Nothing good comes of violence like this. It should be condemned 1000%.


He would have run in 2028, and maybe won.

Some said “can’t have that”…
Will he be thirty five?
just checked. He will be just thirty five.
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Anonymous wrote:Fox News' Jason Chaffetz: "I don’t think it was a coincidence that the shot rang out when you have a question about transgender mass shootings. Hopefully I am wrong. I will probably get criticized for jumping to conclusions... I don’t think that is a coincidence but we will see."


In the video clip Kirk is talk about gang violence right before he's shot.


To be clear, he was asked about mass shootings, but because he doesn’t wanna talk about it he diverted and started talking about gang violence.

The question he was answering when he got shot is… do you know how many mass shootings there have been in the United States over the last 10 years? He says counting or not counting gang violence and then gets shot in the neck.
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Anonymous wrote:Just pure evil. I don't want to hear any "mental health" excuses -- it's just pure evil.


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Then we’ve got the trailer trash somehow blaming democrats for it.

My god, but on your big boy pants and take some responsibility for the mess you’ve caused.

Thank you for your attention in this matter.



This is all on Democrats!!!!!!!!! Don’t blame the gun. Someone had to decide to use it and pull the trigger to kill someone.


All that talk of getting back at Conservatives from the left (take the fight to them)…. You got what you wanted. Be prepared for liberals to be assassinated in return.


Democrats should have passed gun control when they had the chance. Too bad for them.

If kids want gun control, they will have to wait until they are in office.
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Anonymous wrote:Just pure evil. I don't want to hear any "mental health" excuses -- it's just pure evil.


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Then we’ve got the trailer trash somehow blaming democrats for it.

My god, but on your big boy pants and take some responsibility for the mess you’ve caused.

Thank you for your attention in this matter.



This is all on Democrats!!!!!!!!! Don’t blame the gun. Someone had to decide to use it and pull the trigger to kill someone.


All that talk of getting back at Conservatives from the left (take the fight to them)…. You got what you wanted. Be prepared for liberals to be assassinated in return.


Can you just, for once, be a mature adult and wait until we learn more about the shooter before you rush to judgement?
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Anonymous wrote:I would never advocate for violence and, of course, think this is incredibly wrong, but I am having a very hard time feeling sorry for a man who publically stated that he was ok with someone else dying if he got to keep his gun. I guess he feels that it's ok for him to die too so other people can keep their guns? Or does that make him an unprincipled hypocrite?

Before you come at me about his children, yes, I feel bad for them. They don't deserve him for a father. But did he feel bad for the children who died as a result of gun violence?


The whole quote in context of his full answer is less damning then you seem to be assuming.

He said he is 100% a gun violence reductionist, but wanted to be clear that a utopian existence of zero gun deaths was not achievable.

His whole thing, in particular, was trying to sit down and have respectful, open debate and resolving differences through exchange of ideas.


This is a very generous narrative.
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200 yard shot. A moderately hard shot so needs to be someone with experience with a gun, someone who shoots regularly not just picked up a rifle out of anger.
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Anonymous wrote:From a lot of these comments, and from recent events in Charlotte and elsewhere. People have lost their humanity and empathy. I'm scared of the world we live in. People should be able to have verbal discussions and differences in opinion without the fear of being shot. Something is terribly wrong in this country and it's not just the guns. It's the mindset and a total disregard for human life. Because of these recent events, I've decided to seek certification to conceal carry for myself and every other member of my family this year, plus get private lessons.


The president has no empathy. It trickles down.

He mocked a reporter with a disability, never expressed sympathy for Covid victims, and threw paper towels at people who’d lost homes and were devastated. He complained about having to go to National Airport to meet with the victims’ families after an accident caused by the US.

You can’t say it doesn’t matter.



Yes I can. Do you think everyone is some sort of cyborg, mimicking the thoughts and feelings of a leader? That they don't have free will to have their own code or morality? If that's what you truly believe, you are missing quite a few IQ points (and probably lack humanity yourself)


So you want Americans to be better than the president of the US? Kids should not tell lies, but the president sure can. Do you even hear yourself? You don’t have a shred of humanity for electing a psychopath who has never shown ordinary Americans one iota of empathy or compassion.

Expect more!


Remember when the POTUS attended the funerals and paid his respects to the MN lawmakers who were assassinated? Yeah, me neither.

At least he called Gov Walz to offer condolences. Oh wait, he said doing so would be a “waste of time”.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would never advocate for violence and, of course, think this is incredibly wrong, but I am having a very hard time feeling sorry for a man who publically stated that he was ok with someone else dying if he got to keep his gun. I guess he feels that it's ok for him to die too so other people can keep their guns? Or does that make him an unprincipled hypocrite?

Before you come at me about his children, yes, I feel bad for them. They don't deserve him for a father. But did he feel bad for the children who died as a result of gun violence?


I'm too against violence. Maybe pro-gun folks should be asked this question - are you okay being shot by someone who is not supposed to have guns?


Everyone (US citizens, ONLY) have the right to a gun. But if you are talking about someone in our country illegally, no I am not okay being shot by them. They should be deported.


What about US citizens who already have had demonstrated violence? Would you be OK being shot by them?
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Anonymous wrote:Just pure evil. I don't want to hear any "mental health" excuses -- it's just pure evil.


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Then we’ve got the trailer trash somehow blaming democrats for it.

My god, but on your big boy pants and take some responsibility for the mess you’ve caused.

Thank you for your attention in this matter.



This is all on Democrats!!!!!!!!! Don’t blame the gun. Someone had to decide to use it and pull the trigger to kill someone.


All that talk of getting back at Conservatives from the left (take the fight to them)…. You got what you wanted. Be prepared for liberals to be assassinated in return.


We liberals better start buying guns in bulk, I guess.



You already got them buddy.

Every democrat voter in Chicago, LA, Baltimore, has their guns already.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would never advocate for violence and, of course, think this is incredibly wrong, but I am having a very hard time feeling sorry for a man who publically stated that he was ok with someone else dying if he got to keep his gun. I guess he feels that it's ok for him to die too so other people can keep their guns? Or does that make him an unprincipled hypocrite?

Before you come at me about his children, yes, I feel bad for them. They don't deserve him for a father. But did he feel bad for the children who died as a result of gun violence?


I'm too against violence. Maybe pro-gun folks should be asked this question - are you okay being shot by someone who is not supposed to have guns?


Everyone (US citizens, ONLY) have the right to a gun. But if you are talking about someone in our country illegally, no I am not okay being shot by them. They should be deported.


What about US citizens who already have had demonstrated violence? Would you be OK being shot by them?


That is too difficult to control. I'll get more guns to combat their guns.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would never advocate for violence and, of course, think this is incredibly wrong, but I am having a very hard time feeling sorry for a man who publically stated that he was ok with someone else dying if he got to keep his gun. I guess he feels that it's ok for him to die too so other people can keep their guns? Or does that make him an unprincipled hypocrite?

Before you come at me about his children, yes, I feel bad for them. They don't deserve him for a father. But did he feel bad for the children who died as a result of gun violence?


The whole quote in context of his full answer is less damning then you seem to be assuming.

He said he is 100% a gun violence reductionist, but wanted to be clear that a utopian existence of zero gun deaths was not achievable.

His whole thing, in particular, was trying to sit down and have respectful, open debate and resolving differences through exchange of ideas.


I have never EVER heard any Democrat say that they wanted the utopian existence you describe or that Charlie described. It's total nonsense. What sane people want is gun law reform. Why is the right so opposed to that?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just pure evil. I don't want to hear any "mental health" excuses -- it's just pure evil.


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Then we’ve got the trailer trash somehow blaming democrats for it.

My god, but on your big boy pants and take some responsibility for the mess you’ve caused.

Thank you for your attention in this matter.



This is all on Democrats!!!!!!!!! Don’t blame the gun. Someone had to decide to use it and pull the trigger to kill someone.


All that talk of getting back at Conservatives from the left (take the fight to them)…. You got what you wanted. Be prepared for liberals to be assassinated in return.


We liberals better start buying guns in bulk, I guess.



You already got them buddy.

Every democrat voter in Chicago, LA, Baltimore, has their guns already.


Uh…sure, buddy. But great point, all liberals everywhere should stock up on guns.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would never advocate for violence and, of course, think this is incredibly wrong, but I am having a very hard time feeling sorry for a man who publically stated that he was ok with someone else dying if he got to keep his gun. I guess he feels that it's ok for him to die too so other people can keep their guns? Or does that make him an unprincipled hypocrite?

Before you come at me about his children, yes, I feel bad for them. They don't deserve him for a father. But did he feel bad for the children who died as a result of gun violence?


The whole quote in context of his full answer is less damning then you seem to be assuming.

He said he is 100% a gun violence reductionist, but wanted to be clear that a utopian existence of zero gun deaths was not achievable.

His whole thing, in particular, was trying to sit down and have respectful, open debate and resolving differences through exchange of ideas.


This is a very generous narrative.


Generous? No

Delusional, yes
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