We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC

[Anonymous]

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I smell a rat. What I see from those numbers is that 44% of MPD just stopped doing their jobs because they are butthurt over "defund the police" talk that only amounted to 2.8%. Those cops are in violation of their oath of duty and are fraudulently collecting checks from DC taxpayers.


Two police officers were recently convicted of murder because they pursued a criminal who fled from them, and the criminal recklessly drove into a car. People are really wondering why police are more reticent to enforce things these days? There’s a high likelihood a violent criminal will do something stupid and the city will ruin your life in response.

This. We have disincentivized decent diligent people from wanting to be police officers. Why do it if the criminals you arrest aren't prosecuted and are just put back on the street immediately?

Diligent and decent police don't engage in a chase over someone riding a scooter on a sidewalk and then cover it up with their commanding officers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I smell a rat. What I see from those numbers is that 44% of MPD just stopped doing their jobs because they are butthurt over "defund the police" talk that only amounted to 2.8%. Those cops are in violation of their oath of duty and are fraudulently collecting checks from DC taxpayers.

Two police officers were recently convicted of murder because they pursued a criminal who fled from them, and the criminal recklessly drove into a car. People are really wondering why police are more reticent to enforce things these days? There’s a high likelihood a violent criminal will do something stupid and the city will ruin your life in response.

DC police know very well what happened to 6 Baltimore city officers:

- Baltimore prosecuted the officers for doing their jobs (and that prosecutor is now herself a convicted criminal).

DC has made it abundantly clear it is seeking to prosecute police officers.

Why would any reasonable police officer risk his or her salary by doing their job, when DC seems to prosecute officers for doing their job and arresting criminals?

The current situation is not difficult to understand.

Were these the Baltimore cops who killed a guy by slamming him around in the back of a van?

And do the math - out of the tens of thousands of arrests that happened in the last several years, how many of them resulted in police getting prosecuted? A handful maybe? Per the math, MPD officers probably have less than a 0.02% chance of being prosecuted over how they handled an arrest. Yet here you are making hyperbolic claims about how MPD can't do its job out of fear of being prosecuted. Come on, man.

Also, it was never about disincentivizing dilligent, decent cops. It was about disincentivizing the ones who abuse the shield, the ones who are excessively violent, undisciplined and unprincipled. And rather than deflecting and defending the handful of bad cops, you should be looking to get rid of them and looking to restore the image and reputation of police in America.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I smell a rat. What I see from those numbers is that 44% of MPD just stopped doing their jobs because they are butthurt over "defund the police" talk that only amounted to 2.8%. Those cops are in violation of their oath of duty and are fraudulently collecting checks from DC taxpayers.

Two police officers were recently convicted of murder because they pursued a criminal who fled from them, and the criminal recklessly drove into a car. People are really wondering why police are more reticent to enforce things these days? There’s a high likelihood a violent criminal will do something stupid and the city will ruin your life in response.

DC police know very well what happened to 6 Baltimore city officers:

- Baltimore prosecuted the officers for doing their jobs (and that prosecutor is now herself a convicted criminal).

DC has made it abundantly clear it is seeking to prosecute police officers.

Why would any reasonable police officer risk his or her salary by doing their job, when DC seems to prosecute officers for doing their job and arresting criminals?

The current situation is not difficult to understand.

Were these the Baltimore cops who killed a guy by slamming him around in the back of a van?

. . .

That is a lie. The 6 officers were criminally indicted, put on trial, found innocent, and fully exonerated.

Then the officers went a step further: they sued the city for malicious and false prosecution: AND THEY WON.

You are lying PP.

What you claim did not happen, as a matter of fact, and as a matter of law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I smell a rat. What I see from those numbers is that 44% of MPD just stopped doing their jobs because they are butthurt over "defund the police" talk that only amounted to 2.8%. Those cops are in violation of their oath of duty and are fraudulently collecting checks from DC taxpayers.

Two police officers were recently convicted of murder because they pursued a criminal who fled from them, and the criminal recklessly drove into a car. People are really wondering why police are more reticent to enforce things these days? There’s a high likelihood a violent criminal will do something stupid and the city will ruin your life in response.

DC police know very well what happened to 6 Baltimore city officers:

- Baltimore prosecuted the officers for doing their jobs (and that prosecutor is now herself a convicted criminal).

DC has made it abundantly clear it is seeking to prosecute police officers.

Why would any reasonable police officer risk his or her salary by doing their job, when DC seems to prosecute officers for doing their job and arresting criminals?

The current situation is not difficult to understand.

Were these the Baltimore cops who killed a guy by slamming him around in the back of a van?

. . .

That is a lie. The 6 officers were criminally indicted, put on trial, found innocent, and fully exonerated.

Then the officers went a step further: they sued the city for malicious and false prosecution: AND THEY WON.

You are lying PP.

What you claim did not happen, as a matter of fact, and as a matter of law.

Yes, they won their suit. But that doesn't somehow make Freddie Gray any less dead, doesn't make the severe spinal injury that he didn't have prior to arrest somehow magically go away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I smell a rat. What I see from those numbers is that 44% of MPD just stopped doing their jobs because they are butthurt over "defund the police" talk that only amounted to 2.8%. Those cops are in violation of their oath of duty and are fraudulently collecting checks from DC taxpayers.

Two police officers were recently convicted of murder because they pursued a criminal who fled from them, and the criminal recklessly drove into a car. People are really wondering why police are more reticent to enforce things these days? There’s a high likelihood a violent criminal will do something stupid and the city will ruin your life in response.

DC police know very well what happened to 6 Baltimore city officers:

- Baltimore prosecuted the officers for doing their jobs (and that prosecutor is now herself a convicted criminal).

DC has made it abundantly clear it is seeking to prosecute police officers.

Why would any reasonable police officer risk his or her salary by doing their job, when DC seems to prosecute officers for doing their job and arresting criminals?

The current situation is not difficult to understand.

Were these the Baltimore cops who killed a guy by slamming him around in the back of a van?

And do the math - out of the tens of thousands of arrests that happened in the last several years, how many of them resulted in police getting prosecuted? A handful maybe? Per the math, MPD officers probably have less than a 0.02% chance of being prosecuted over how they handled an arrest. Yet here you are making hyperbolic claims about how MPD can't do its job out of fear of being prosecuted. Come on, man.

Also, it was never about disincentivizing dilligent, decent cops. It was about disincentivizing the ones who abuse the shield, the ones who are excessively violent, undisciplined and unprincipled. And rather than deflecting and defending the handful of bad cops, you should be looking to get rid of them and looking to restore the image and reputation of police in America.

Except has there been even one example of cops that abuse the shield? There hasn’t been. Just a lil of hard working, dedicated cops like Derek Chauvin who get their names drawn through the mud because, for instance, an individual they were arresting died of a drug overdose.

Chauvin is currently in jail, having already been nearly murdered. Why would you risk that? Jail time just because the guy you were arresting just happened to overdose?

No cops abusing the shield? Are you for real? What about the Lieutenant who was secretly feeding intel to the Proud Boys? There have also been MPD officers who committed assault, domestic violence, fraud, exposed themselves and so on. And in many cases they couldn't even be kicked off of the force. https://the1a.org/segments/the-d-c-police-force-and-the-cops-it-couldnt-fire/ There are a lot of other articles out there.

You think all that is somehow NOT an abuse, and is somehow acceptable and legitimate behavior for police officers?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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44% fewer arrests, because of a 2.8% budget cut?

I smell a rat. What I see from those numbers is that 44% of MPD just stopped doing their jobs because they are butthurt over "defund the police" talk that only amounted to 2.8%. Those cops are in violation of their oath of duty and are fraudulently collecting checks from DC taxpayers.

I don’t blame police for things like this. If they stop arresting criminals, it’s for a reason. Like they know the criminals will be out on the streets again the next day so why bother. The issue is the prosecutors, and the laws.

There's some faulty logic there. The laws aren't preventing MPD from doing their jobs.

And let's get something straight here - if the prosecutors don't prosecute, that's the fault of the prosecutors.

But if the police don't even arrest in the first place, that's the fault of the police.

If the police don't like that the prosecutors are falling down on the job, the right answer is NOT to stop doing their own jobs, it's do demand accountability from the prosecutors and to highlight how it's the prosecutors who aren't doing their jobs. When police aren't doing their jobs they lose all clout and credibility where it comes to shifting the blame.

[Anonymous]

F*** the deniers and minimizers! Parents need a unified message re: safety and door locks, not to be told it's MAGA to think of crime. And the contempt for "scanner boys" - Alan Henney helped get the word out, with a partial plate, which MPD has not published.

It's all of those people insulating the system from change. Enough! A 4 month old was kidnapped when the car was stolen in Georgetown, apparently while the parent was pumping gas. She's been missing since before 6.

If you see the white Jeep Cherokee with the gas door snapped off MPD has asked that you call 911.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I smell a rat. What I see from those numbers is that 44% of MPD just stopped doing their jobs because they are butthurt over "defund the police" talk that only amounted to 2.8%. Those cops are in violation of their oath of duty and are fraudulently collecting checks from DC taxpayers.


Two police officers were recently convicted of murder because they pursued a criminal who fled from them, and the criminal recklessly drove into a car. People are really wondering why police are more reticent to enforce things these days? There’s a high likelihood a violent criminal will do something stupid and the city will ruin your life in response.

This. We have disincentivized decent diligent people from wanting to be police officers. Why do it if the criminals you arrest aren't prosecuted and are just put back on the street immediately?

Diligent and decent police don't engage in a chase over someone riding a scooter on a sidewalk and then cover it up with their commanding officers.

That was a well known felon and drug dealer.

Cops gave chase, and he killed himself because of his recklessness.

Meanwhile, the cops were sentenced to prison for murder.

The USAO, Matthew Graves, declines to prosecute 67 percent of all arrests in DC. But he will go after the police.

Police officers are aware.

They are not going to do anything to help anyone when those are the stakes.

[Anonymous]

The prosecution piece is very, very problematic. This is someone who should have been off the street. Were the Council not just passing whatever DC Justice Lab writes for them, they could tweak legislation to make it harder for USAO and judges to just let people out. But, that is not their goal.

[Anonymous]

^click and read down for info re: the amount of evidence, priors and USAO cutting a deal that has him out on monitoring. Glad the cops got some kudos for it, has to be hard to see the guy around immediately.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I smell a rat. What I see from those numbers is that 44% of MPD just stopped doing their jobs because they are butthurt over "defund the police" talk that only amounted to 2.8%. Those cops are in violation of their oath of duty and are fraudulently collecting checks from DC taxpayers.


Two police officers were recently convicted of murder because they pursued a criminal who fled from them, and the criminal recklessly drove into a car. People are really wondering why police are more reticent to enforce things these days? There’s a high likelihood a violent criminal will do something stupid and the city will ruin your life in response.

This. We have disincentivized decent diligent people from wanting to be police officers. Why do it if the criminals you arrest aren't prosecuted and are just put back on the street immediately?

Diligent and decent police don't engage in a chase over someone riding a scooter on a sidewalk and then cover it up with their commanding officers.

That was a well known felon and drug dealer.

Cops gave chase, and he killed himself because of his recklessness.

Meanwhile, the cops were sentenced to prison for murder.

The USAO, Matthew Graves, declines to prosecute 67 percent of all arrests in DC. But he will go after the police.

Police officers are aware.

They are not going to do anything to help anyone when those are the stakes.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I smell a rat. What I see from those numbers is that 44% of MPD just stopped doing their jobs because they are butthurt over "defund the police" talk that only amounted to 2.8%. Those cops are in violation of their oath of duty and are fraudulently collecting checks from DC taxpayers.

Two police officers were recently convicted of murder because they pursued a criminal who fled from them, and the criminal recklessly drove into a car. People are really wondering why police are more reticent to enforce things these days? There’s a high likelihood a violent criminal will do something stupid and the city will ruin your life in response.

DC police know very well what happened to 6 Baltimore city officers:

- Baltimore prosecuted the officers for doing their jobs (and that prosecutor is now herself a convicted criminal).

DC has made it abundantly clear it is seeking to prosecute police officers.

Why would any reasonable police officer risk his or her salary by doing their job, when DC seems to prosecute officers for doing their job and arresting criminals?

The current situation is not difficult to understand.

Were these the Baltimore cops who killed a guy by slamming him around in the back of a van?

. . .

That is a lie. The 6 officers were criminally indicted, put on trial, found innocent, and fully exonerated.

Then the officers went a step further: they sued the city for malicious and false prosecution: AND THEY WON.

You are lying PP.

What you claim did not happen, as a matter of fact, and as a matter of law.

Yes, they won their suit. But that doesn't somehow make Freddie Gray any less dead, doesn't make the severe spinal injury that he didn't have prior to arrest somehow magically go away.

Not the PP, but I don't understand your point. What point are you making?

[Anonymous]

This is interesting.

[Anonymous]

This poor man, so many rideshare drivers have been harmed, maimed, even murdered. That it isn't even safe to be right next to your car outside Union Station, right near the Capitol is sad and telling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is interesting.

That's f'ed up. Totally wrong move. They need to go after the street fences, along with the scam food trucks and a ton of other vendor problems.