I'm a DC resident, applied for my CCW, and I'm now carrying concealed

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re carrying a concealed weapon … you’re a gun nut.

No doubt about it. 100%.

There have been over 15 million concealed carry permits issued in shall issue states. Add the 27 states that allow constitutional carry and there are 10s of millions of so called gun nuts running around according to some.

While others would see normal law abiding citizen’s executing their constitutional rights.

A discussion board in the flyover states would no doubt have a much different perspective.

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well, you are the reason, OP, that I wouldn't want to move to DC -- because your need to feel secure could result in a weapon going off in the wrong way and hitting a person in my family or me. It feels incredibly selfish. America is terrible in that way.

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Anonymous wrote:well, you are the reason, OP, that I wouldn't want to move to DC -- because your need to feel secure could result in a weapon going off in the wrong way and hitting a person in my family or me. It feels incredibly selfish. America is terrible in that way.

Wow, OP is being selfish by taking prudent steps to help ensure her safety and security is selfish, and an example of how America is terrible.

Simply will never be able to understand that type of thought process. Hope you don’t live in one of the constitutional carry states.

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Anonymous wrote:well, you are the reason, OP, that I wouldn't want to move to DC -- because your need to feel secure could result in a weapon going off in the wrong way and hitting a person in my family or me. It feels incredibly selfish. America is terrible in that way.

Wow, OP is being selfish by taking prudent steps to help ensure her safety and security is selfish, and an example of how America is terrible.

Simply will never be able to understand that type of thought process. Hope you don’t live in one of the constitutional carry states.

There's little actual statistical evidence to show that more people carrying guns reduces crime or makes anyone any safer. And in fact the data shows the exact opposite, along with increased suicides.

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Anonymous wrote:well, you are the reason, OP, that I wouldn't want to move to DC -- because your need to feel secure could result in a weapon going off in the wrong way and hitting a person in my family or me. It feels incredibly selfish. America is terrible in that way.

Wait, let me get this straight: other people should be deprived of the ability to defend themselves from violent criminal predators because you don’t know anything about firearms, have no idea how they work or what safety devices they contain, are unwilling to learn about any of that, and hence have an irrational paranoia about weapons “going off in the wrong way.”

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but with the number of heavily armed plainclothes and uniformed law enforcement agents (federal and local), including retirees and on and off duty personnel from other jurisdictions, not to mention the military and armed security guards, the District of Columbia has always had a plethora of people carrying firearms, long before concealed pistol permits became available. I don’t recall there being any appreciable number of spontaneous discharges mowing down innocent victims in the street.

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Anonymous wrote:well, you are the reason, OP, that I wouldn't want to move to DC -- because your need to feel secure could result in a weapon going off in the wrong way and hitting a person in my family or me. It feels incredibly selfish. America is terrible in that way.

Wait, let me get this straight: other people should be deprived of the ability to defend themselves from violent criminal predators because you don’t know anything about firearms, have no idea how they work or what safety devices they contain, are unwilling to learn about any of that, and hence have an irrational paranoia about weapons “going off in the wrong way.”

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but with the number of heavily armed plainclothes and uniformed law enforcement agents (federal and local), including retirees and on and off duty personnel from other jurisdictions, not to mention the military and armed security guards, the District of Columbia has always had a plethora of people carrying firearms, long before concealed pistol permits became available. I don’t recall there being any appreciable number of spontaneous discharges mowing down innocent victims in the street.

Omg stop with your logic and reasonable argument. There’s no place for that here, the land of irrational “guns will be going off left and right hitting innocent victims” paranoia. Emotional arguments only, please.

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Anonymous wrote:well, you are the reason, OP, that I wouldn't want to move to DC -- because your need to feel secure could result in a weapon going off in the wrong way and hitting a person in my family or me. It feels incredibly selfish. America is terrible in that way.

Wow, OP is being selfish by taking prudent steps to help ensure her safety and security is selfish, and an example of how America is terrible.

Simply will never be able to understand that type of thought process. Hope you don’t live in one of the constitutional carry states.

There's little actual statistical evidence to show that more people carrying guns reduces crime or makes anyone any safer. And in fact the data shows the exact opposite, along with increased suicides.

It depends on the statistics you choose. Personal firearms are used at least hundreds of thousands of times a year in the US to prevent or terminate criminal assault, typically without firing a shot. Carry permit holders commit fewer crimes than police. As for suicide, it is well established that depriving people of firearms may change the means, but it does not change the frequency, of suicide. The most common suicide method in Europe is an over the counter drug. In Japan people hang themselves. And in this day an age, with the emphasis on individual rights and the euthanasia movement in full effect, whether to keep on living or not would seem to be a choice for the individual, and hence not other people’s business.

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Anonymous wrote:well, you are the reason, OP, that I wouldn't want to move to DC -- because your need to feel secure could result in a weapon going off in the wrong way and hitting a person in my family or me. It feels incredibly selfish. America is terrible in that way.

Wait, let me get this straight: other people should be deprived of the ability to defend themselves from violent criminal predators because you don’t know anything about firearms, have no idea how they work or what safety devices they contain, are unwilling to learn about any of that, and hence have an irrational paranoia about weapons “going off in the wrong way.”

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but with the number of heavily armed plainclothes and uniformed law enforcement agents (federal and local), including retirees and on and off duty personnel from other jurisdictions, not to mention the military and armed security guards, the District of Columbia has always had a plethora of people carrying firearms, long before concealed pistol permits became available. I don’t recall there being any appreciable number of spontaneous discharges mowing down innocent victims in the street.

Omg stop with your logic and reasonable argument. There’s no place for that here, the land of irrational “guns will be going off left and right hitting innocent victims” paranoia. Emotional arguments only, please.

Sorry. Sometimes I just can’t help myself.

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Anonymous wrote:well, you are the reason, OP, that I wouldn't want to move to DC -- because your need to feel secure could result in a weapon going off in the wrong way and hitting a person in my family or me. It feels incredibly selfish. America is terrible in that way.

Wait, let me get this straight: other people should be deprived of the ability to defend themselves from violent criminal predators because you don’t know anything about firearms, have no idea how they work or what safety devices they contain, are unwilling to learn about any of that, and hence have an irrational paranoia about weapons “going off in the wrong way.”

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but with the number of heavily armed plainclothes and uniformed law enforcement agents (federal and local), including retirees and on and off duty personnel from other jurisdictions, not to mention the military and armed security guards, the District of Columbia has always had a plethora of people carrying firearms, long before concealed pistol permits became available. I don’t recall there being any appreciable number of spontaneous discharges mowing down innocent victims in the street.

Omg stop with your logic and reasonable argument. There’s no place for that here, the land of irrational “guns will be going off left and right hitting innocent victims” paranoia. Emotional arguments only, please.

Sorry. Sometimes I just can’t help myself.

Ah! There’s the emotion I was looking for. Welcome back to the thread!

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Anonymous wrote:well, you are the reason, OP, that I wouldn't want to move to DC -- because your need to feel secure could result in a weapon going off in the wrong way and hitting a person in my family or me. It feels incredibly selfish. America is terrible in that way.

Wow, OP is being selfish by taking prudent steps to help ensure her safety and security is selfish, and an example of how America is terrible.

Simply will never be able to understand that type of thought process. Hope you don’t live in one of the constitutional carry states.

There's little actual statistical evidence to show that more people carrying guns reduces crime or makes anyone any safer. And in fact the data shows the exact opposite, along with increased suicides.

It depends on the statistics you choose. Personal firearms are used at least hundreds of thousands of times a year in the US to prevent or terminate criminal assault, typically without firing a shot. Carry permit holders commit fewer crimes than police. As for suicide, it is well established that depriving people of firearms may change the means, but it does not change the frequency, of suicide. The most common suicide method in Europe is an over the counter drug. In Japan people hang themselves. And in this day an age, with the emphasis on individual rights and the euthanasia movement in full effect, whether to keep on living or not would seem to be a choice for the individual, and hence not other people’s business.

Suicide and euthanasia may look similar but are very different things. People with terminal cancer are not looking to blow their brains out with a shotgun. Depressed people need help not a way to accomplish it easier. And making it easier does correlate with a higher percentage of people carrying out the suicide instead of getting help.

You sure you're the pro-life people?

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Anonymous wrote:well, you are the reason, OP, that I wouldn't want to move to DC -- because your need to feel secure could result in a weapon going off in the wrong way and hitting a person in my family or me. It feels incredibly selfish. America is terrible in that way.

Wait, let me get this straight: other people should be deprived of the ability to defend themselves from violent criminal predators because you don’t know anything about firearms, have no idea how they work or what safety devices they contain, are unwilling to learn about any of that, and hence have an irrational paranoia about weapons “going off in the wrong way.”

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but with the number of heavily armed plainclothes and uniformed law enforcement agents (federal and local), including retirees and on and off duty personnel from other jurisdictions, not to mention the military and armed security guards, the District of Columbia has always had a plethora of people carrying firearms, long before concealed pistol permits became available. I don’t recall there being any appreciable number of spontaneous discharges mowing down innocent victims in the street.

CCW is not law enforcement. It does not give you the level of training, direction, etc. to make it comparable. Police are trained to minimize the risk of danger to bystanders.

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Anonymous wrote:DC authorities did little to protect property during the last round of looting and riots. it's not just criminals, it's the potential for mob rule every few decades.

Yes J6 was bad. Do you really think the general public should have grabbed their guns and opened up on that mob?

Shooting masses of unarmed protesters isn’t a good look…but it IS exactly the sort of thing most DCUM’s could get behind - IF - it were the right sort of unarmed people getting shot. And the J6 crowd would definitely qualify.

I’m fine letting LEO defend the VP and legislators with deadly force.

What about the thousands of BLM protesters that surrounded the White House for 3 days in June of 2020, set fire to several buildings nearby, seriously injured dozens of police officers and caused the secret service to evacuate the first family to the bunker out of fear that the White House was about to be overrun ?

Do you support force deadly force being used there, too?

Whataboutism!!!

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Anonymous wrote:well, you are the reason, OP, that I wouldn't want to move to DC -- because your need to feel secure could result in a weapon going off in the wrong way and hitting a person in my family or me. It feels incredibly selfish. America is terrible in that way.

Wow, OP is being selfish by taking prudent steps to help ensure her safety and security is selfish, and an example of how America is terrible.

Simply will never be able to understand that type of thought process. Hope you don’t live in one of the constitutional carry states.

There's little actual statistical evidence to show that more people carrying guns reduces crime or makes anyone any safer. And in fact the data shows the exact opposite, along with increased suicides.

It depends on the statistics you choose. Personal firearms are used at least hundreds of thousands of times a year in the US to prevent or terminate criminal assault, typically without firing a shot. Carry permit holders commit fewer crimes than police. As for suicide, it is well established that depriving people of firearms may change the means, but it does not change the frequency, of suicide. The most common suicide method in Europe is an over the counter drug. In Japan people hang themselves. And in this day an age, with the emphasis on individual rights and the euthanasia movement in full effect, whether to keep on living or not would seem to be a choice for the individual, and hence not other people’s business.

Bullshit. Those "Defensive Gun Use" statistics from Kleck and others have been debunked a hundred times over.

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Anonymous wrote:The people who keep passing laws and trying to ban guns don't seem to know much about the things they are trying to ban. I love the people who say the AR in AR-15 stands for "Assault Rifle" (news flash, it stands for Armalite Rifle as in the company that developed it in the 50's) MD bans the M1-A1 in 308 but not the SCAR-20 in 308? The SCAR-20 is a modern battle rifle, the M1-A1 was used in Korea and Viet Nam as the M-14.

And none of them belong in the home. They are weapons of war, came as tanks and hydrogen bombs.

Right, because there is zero difference between a gun and a nuclear bomb.

Seriously, come up with some new schtick, because I can’t even…..

Come back when you shoot your kid coming in late.

That's one thing that will never happen in my house.

Yes, because you will be tied up at gun point while your house is being robbed. Shoot your kid - what a dbag you are. Great argument argument. I’m getting my CCW after reading your post.

Spite gun purchases. Do you always buy deadly weapons when you get emotional?

Reminds me of when gun owners go on a shopping spree right after a mass shooting. How many guns were sold after Sandy Hook or Vegas?

It is fascinating, this legend in their own mind thinking. They fancy themselves being good guys with a gun. (Spoiler: They are not).

I’m definitely not a legend in my own mind. I’m 5’3” and weigh 118 lbs and I don’t want to be raped, strangled or maybe beaten to death by a man who could be twice my size and 3 or 4 times stronger than me. I don’t “fancy myself” being able to physically resist or stop someone so much larger and stronger than me.

Serious question (assuming you’re also female) - do you think you could stop a man from attacking you? I can’t. If you think you can, what makes you believe that? Why are you so much more capable than I am?

Do you think you can stop a man from taking your gun from you and using it on you?

I actually do believe I can stop a man from taking my gun and using it on me. And in the unlikely event he’s able to get possession of my gun after being shot perhaps a dozen times, it will be empty by then. I suppose he might try and pistol whip me with it, but I suspect he’ll be too busy exsanguinating by that point.

So… you ARE a legend in your own mind. I mean, you clearly have an active fantasy life.

Your ad hominem personal attack-snark is getting tiresome. If all you have to contribute to this thread is the belittling of others, I invite you to leave.

Or what? You’re going to shoot me?

You have mental issues. A gun isn’t going to fix that.

It is quite apparent to anyone following your contributions over the last 17 pages where the mental issues reside.

Personally, I’d like you to continue posting stuff like this - and other similarly veiled threats - because it’s doing a fantastic job of illustrating your character. You’re representing anti-gun people fabulously as far as I’m concerned.


Carry on.

See, toots, now you are just embarrassing yourself and conflating posters. I didn’t post at all until about page 12 or 13.

It’s so painfully obvious you are not a responsible gun owner. You are a delusional one. Responsible gun owners don’t take to forums to prattle on the way you have with weird bravado and pronouncements about how you would use your gun in these fantasy scenarios that clearly play in your mind every day. You sound like a 7 year-old boy who dreams of being a soldier or something.

People like you, who was so performative about it all and so strident, tend to piss their pants in a live fire situation. Been there, seen that, it ended tragically.

Ok Jan.

lol. Look at you with your tail between your legs.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you even know how to use it?

DC requires training to get a CCW.

I think that you’re still more likely to shoot yourself or your kid than a bad guy, but if you go through a basic personal and household sanity check and a permitting process, get training and acknowledge that you’re responsible if anyone in your household who commits a mass shooting, I’m fine if you have a gun. Have 10 guns. People like you occasionally going postal or killing your spouses might be the price of freedom.

But it irritates me when very obvious loons who could have never joined a well-regulated get guns.

It also irritates me when we see that NRA became part of Putin’s effort to infiltrate the United States, the gun lovers are the kind of people who try get the United States to shaft Ukraine, and to that most of this thread is probably managed by bots or sock peppers trying to help Putin win WWIII.

We have a right to bear arms to protect us from people like Trump and Putin, and then it turns out that a lot of gun owners are fine with a Putin Trump takeover the United States.

Compared with the fact that gun ownership is now part of an effort to destroy the United States, the suicides, spouse killings and occasional mass shootings are a minor nuisance.

If you’re that concerned about TrumPutin taking over the US, then don’t you owe it to yourself, your family, and the rest of the country who opposes that sort of thing (me among them) to arm yourself and be ready to resist such a thing?


What was the very FIRST thing Ukraine did when the Russians invaded?

They gave away hundreds of thousands of fully automatic AK-47’s to anyone who stood in line to get one.


Ukrainians are courageous. They armed themselves to resist Putin. Shouldn’t you be willing to do the same?

DP. The differences is that they are fighting to protect their fellow citizens, not trying to kill them.

I'm down for a legit militia with training and central storage of weapons. National Guard lite.

There is a machine gun and ammunition in the home of virtually every Swiss citizen of military service age (18-65). Yet the Swiss somehow avoid having the crime involving guns that we have here, despite our own draconian gun laws compared to the Swiss.

How do you explain this?

So are we adopting Swiss laws around guns?

Is that what the 2A nutters are gunning for?

Switzerland does have a fair amount of gun violence: https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Switzerland/United-States/Crime/Violent-crime

It’s not New Zealand.