I'm not sure what conclusion you think I made. There are many people posting on this thread. My conclusion is that it's difficult to determine the income of Deal and BASIS students, for the reasons I listed, even though Deal is located in a high-SES area. |
I’ll say the quiet part out loud, demographics/SES play a large factor in student success and since we are UMC but are unwilling to be house poor and move inbounds for an Upper NW school, we opted for BASIS which has similar demographics. We understand that our child would do well in any school, and “rigor” is just another term associated with higher SES. |
Weird. That 1% is at an ES that is in the most expensive real estate, highest household income in the city. Of course if all of these gaslighting posters are to be believed then that's just a coincidence because there's just no way to know if the moneyed folks IB for Janney send their kids there... |
Last 4 pages of this thread are delusional folks arguing there's no way to know whether Janney is a wealthy area, or, in the alternative, whether there's a super secret population of low SES who live there but are sending their kids to Janney in disproportionate #s. You people gaslight all day long. |
Dude, no. Nobody's trying to convince you that Janney and Deal aren't drawing primarly from wealthy areas. But it's more complicated than that for Deal. Janney's in-boundary percentage is 93.8, it's in-boundary participation rate is 94.7, and its boundary is quite small. Deal has a much bigger boundary, and its IB percentage and IB participation rate are much lower. Deal draws 22% of its students from outside its own boundary. So it's a more complicated analysis. So it's maybe true that the actual population attending Deal (as distinct from the population living IB for deal) is higher or lower-income than the actual population attending BASIS. I don't know, probably? It's hard to pin that down with the data we have. |
For the record, BASIS parents spend not a moment thinking about any of this. We don't care if it is 7% or 10% or whatever. BASIS doesn't actually care about PARCC. Whereas our old school spent weeks preparing and making it a big thing BASIS kids view it as a week off from grades and tests that count. You all spend WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more time thinking about BASIS than we do. It's mostly funny. And a little sad.
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Is the data actually out yet re: how many students scored 4+ on the PARCC? For example, how did Janney do in 3rd, 4th and 5th? |
I am a BASIS parent, and I care how they do on the PARCC. It's a good measure of how much bullsh*t they're spinning. |
This long thread is tiring. I don’t give a s*hit about income and SES or at risk.
All I care is the majority of kids are on or above grade level at the school (4,5 on PARCC) so that the teacher can teach grade level content and not dumb down the curriculum. Then there is some bandwidth to help those just below and those above. Huge levels of different academic achievement in a classroom and forget about any effective differentiation. The focus and pressure will be the bottom. This is in elementary. In middle school, absolutely no differentiation anywhere. That’s what tracking is for but you know we can’t have that with all subjects in DC. In the day to day classroom, what matters is the percentage of low performing kids (at risk or not) there are. If numbers are high, then forget about any focus on anyone else or your kid will be on screens as a substitute. That’s the bottom line folks. People on here use at risk to justify poor academic achievement at their school. I could care less. If you don’t have an at risk kid or low performing kid, you want to kid to be at a high performing school for them to reach their full potential. The end. |
Basis has good Parcc test scores. Deal has good Parcc test scores. It probably in both cases has more to do with the underlying students and less to do with the school. |
That is incorrect. You have to look at scores after kids have been at Basis and Deal for a few years. Those show that Basis outperforms Deal and every other school in DC: 8th grade ELA Basis 91.56 Deal 77.63 Latin 74.73 Math Basis 63.85 Deal 61.72 Latin 44.21 In fact, since Basis continues through high school, Basis' scores go even higher and are roughly comparable with Walls (a selective school), outperforming every other school in DC: High school ELA Walls 94.07 Basis 92.06 Latin 70.71 J-R 57.54 Math Walls 67.44 Basis 66.12 Latin 30.47 J-R 25.00 |
Not true because if the kids are not learning what they need to know each year, then the PARCC scores will go down. What you think scores will continue to be good if the teachers suck, do nothing, and barely teach? FFS give the teachers some credit. No I’m not a teacher but a parent and no kids at either school |
Yes? Most UMC people will supplement so they're kids aren't learning from the school anyway. |
Schools with high UMC kids should be showing at least 90% of the student body as achieving +5s. I'm really irritated by the fact that +5 percentages aren't broken out. What is the point of this?? |
Apparently it will be published next week. |