2022-2023 PARCC Data Released

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Anonymous wrote:And if you want to know where BASIS pulls from, https://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/page_content/attachments/SY2122_Public%20School%20Enrollments%20per%20DCPS%20Boundary_0.xlsx

25 kids from Deal boundary
17 kids from Hardy boundary
11 kids from Maury boundary
15 kids from SWW@FS boundary
33 kids from J-R boundary

So let's not be saying that BASIS doesn't pull from high-income areas. And those are just the schools with 10 or more kids at BASIS.

It's true that BASIS pulls kids from EOTR, but so does Deal.

Did you think no one was familiar with the data and would notice you ae playing games and cherry picking?

There are almost as many kids IB from Eastern as the entire group you cherry picked. 20% of the HS kids are from JR. 15% of the MS (excluding 5th grade, obv) is from Deal and Hardy. Your cherry picked group is less than 100 out of 650 enrolled.

Here's what you didn't paste:

Anacostia High School 12
Dunbar High School 31
Eastern High School 80
Roosevelt High School 14
Brookland Middle School 10
Eliot-Hine Middle School 36
Hardy Middle School 17
Hart Middle School 11
Ida B. Wells Middle School 14
Jefferson Middle School Academy 47
Kelly Miller Middle School 11
MacFarland Middle School 28
McKinley Middle School 10
Sousa Middle School 11
Stuart-Hobson Middle School 54

So BASIS pulls from all these areas and STILL has only 7% overall "at risk" for their total population. Why is that? This just proves the self-selection point.

8%.

Janney has less than 1% at risk. Why don’t you go picket them?

Because they aren't claiming that it's the result of "100% pure lottery!!!!!". Nor do they refuse to backfill.

They won’t let in out of bounds!!!! Bus the kids in now!!!!

I guess it's because I feel like Janney is what it is, it's not trying to convince people it's anything other than a vast-majority-high-income school that performs as expected for its demographics. Unlike BASIS which wants to claim "100% pure lottery" (which is itself disingenuous when sibling preference and the Equitable Action preference at other schools skews things), and then pretend that their policies and poor retention don't have any impact on their demographics. And then likes to compare to schools with different policies and different demographics and claim victory without acknowledging those differences. Rigor!

I’ll say the quiet part out loud, demographics/SES play a large factor in student success and since we are UMC but are unwilling to be house poor and move inbounds for an Upper NW school, we opted for BASIS which has similar demographics. We understand that our child would do well in any school, and “rigor” is just another term associated with higher SES.

Schools with high UMC kids should be showing at least 90% of the student body as achieving +5s. I'm really irritated by the fact that +5 percentages aren't broken out. What is the point of this??

Oh should they? Well since you say so I guess Jeff should probably just go ahead and close the thread.

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Anonymous wrote:Per PP's helpful analysis of the top schools in DC for ELA and Math, it looks like Deal academically comes out on top for middle school. I guess the fights, drugs and other dysfunction I hear about on DCUM isn't affecting kids academically? I know that came across sounding snarky, but it's not intended to. I'm a parent with children IB for Deal (in the future) that has concerns when reading DCUM, but these PARCC results seem to tell another story.

+1, Deal looks good and performance is really not different than BASIS

That is incorrect.

You have to look at scores after kids have been at Basis and Deal for a few years. Those show that Basis outperforms Deal and every other school in DC:

8th grade

ELA

Basis 91.56
Deal 77.63
Latin 74.73

Math

Basis 63.85
Deal 61.72
Latin 44.21

In fact, since Basis continues through high school, Basis' scores go even higher and are roughly comparable with Walls (a selective school), outperforming every other school in DC:

High school

ELA

Walls 94.07
Basis 92.06
Latin 70.71
J-R 57.54

Math

Walls 67.44
Basis 66.12
Latin 30.47
J-R 25.00

You mean, after BASIS has attritioned out the lower-performing kids, which IB schools can't do.

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Anonymous wrote:And if you want to know where BASIS pulls from, https://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/page_content/attachments/SY2122_Public%20School%20Enrollments%20per%20DCPS%20Boundary_0.xlsx

25 kids from Deal boundary
17 kids from Hardy boundary
11 kids from Maury boundary
15 kids from SWW@FS boundary
33 kids from J-R boundary

So let's not be saying that BASIS doesn't pull from high-income areas. And those are just the schools with 10 or more kids at BASIS.

It's true that BASIS pulls kids from EOTR, but so does Deal.

Did you think no one was familiar with the data and would notice you ae playing games and cherry picking?

There are almost as many kids IB from Eastern as the entire group you cherry picked. 20% of the HS kids are from JR. 15% of the MS (excluding 5th grade, obv) is from Deal and Hardy. Your cherry picked group is less than 100 out of 650 enrolled.

Here's what you didn't paste:

Anacostia High School 12
Dunbar High School 31
Eastern High School 80
Roosevelt High School 14
Brookland Middle School 10
Eliot-Hine Middle School 36
Hardy Middle School 17
Hart Middle School 11
Ida B. Wells Middle School 14
Jefferson Middle School Academy 47
Kelly Miller Middle School 11
MacFarland Middle School 28
McKinley Middle School 10
Sousa Middle School 11
Stuart-Hobson Middle School 54

So BASIS pulls from all these areas and STILL has only 7% overall "at risk" for their total population. Why is that? This just proves the self-selection point.

8%.

Janney has less than 1% at risk. Why don’t you go picket them?

Because they aren't claiming that it's the result of "100% pure lottery!!!!!". Nor do they refuse to backfill.

They won’t let in out of bounds!!!! Bus the kids in now!!!!

I guess it's because I feel like Janney is what it is, it's not trying to convince people it's anything other than a vast-majority-high-income school that performs as expected for its demographics. Unlike BASIS which wants to claim "100% pure lottery" (which is itself disingenuous when sibling preference and the Equitable Action preference at other schools skews things), and then pretend that their policies and poor retention don't have any impact on their demographics. And then likes to compare to schools with different policies and different demographics and claim victory without acknowledging those differences. Rigor!

I’ll say the quiet part out loud, demographics/SES play a large factor in student success and since we are UMC but are unwilling to be house poor and move inbounds for an Upper NW school, we opted for BASIS which has similar demographics. We understand that our child would do well in any school, and “rigor” is just another term associated with higher SES.

Schools with high UMC kids should be showing at least 90% of the student body as achieving +5s. I'm really irritated by the fact that +5 percentages aren't broken out. What is the point of this??

Oh should they? Well since you say so I guess Jeff should probably just go ahead and close the thread.

Of course they should? Especially in DC???

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Anonymous wrote:Basis has good Parcc test scores. Deal has good Parcc test scores. It probably in both cases has more to do with the underlying students and less to do with the school.

Not true because if the kids are not learning what they need to know each year, then the PARCC scores will go down. What you think scores will continue to be good if the teachers suck, do nothing, and barely teach? FFS give the teachers some credit.

No I’m not a teacher but a parent and no kids at either school

Yes? Most UMC people will supplement so they're kids aren't learning from the school anyway.

OMG you are clueless. The vast majority of parents are not supplementing. Get out of your bubble.

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Anonymous wrote:And if you want to know where BASIS pulls from, https://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/page_content/attachments/SY2122_Public%20School%20Enrollments%20per%20DCPS%20Boundary_0.xlsx

25 kids from Deal boundary
17 kids from Hardy boundary
11 kids from Maury boundary
15 kids from SWW@FS boundary
33 kids from J-R boundary

So let's not be saying that BASIS doesn't pull from high-income areas. And those are just the schools with 10 or more kids at BASIS.

It's true that BASIS pulls kids from EOTR, but so does Deal.

Did you think no one was familiar with the data and would notice you ae playing games and cherry picking?

There are almost as many kids IB from Eastern as the entire group you cherry picked. 20% of the HS kids are from JR. 15% of the MS (excluding 5th grade, obv) is from Deal and Hardy. Your cherry picked group is less than 100 out of 650 enrolled.

Here's what you didn't paste:

Anacostia High School 12
Dunbar High School 31
Eastern High School 80
Roosevelt High School 14
Brookland Middle School 10
Eliot-Hine Middle School 36
Hardy Middle School 17
Hart Middle School 11
Ida B. Wells Middle School 14
Jefferson Middle School Academy 47
Kelly Miller Middle School 11
MacFarland Middle School 28
McKinley Middle School 10
Sousa Middle School 11
Stuart-Hobson Middle School 54

So BASIS pulls from all these areas and STILL has only 7% overall "at risk" for their total population. Why is that? This just proves the self-selection point.

8%.

Janney has less than 1% at risk. Why don’t you go picket them?

Because they aren't claiming that it's the result of "100% pure lottery!!!!!". Nor do they refuse to backfill.

They won’t let in out of bounds!!!! Bus the kids in now!!!!

I guess it's because I feel like Janney is what it is, it's not trying to convince people it's anything other than a vast-majority-high-income school that performs as expected for its demographics. Unlike BASIS which wants to claim "100% pure lottery" (which is itself disingenuous when sibling preference and the Equitable Action preference at other schools skews things), and then pretend that their policies and poor retention don't have any impact on their demographics. And then likes to compare to schools with different policies and different demographics and claim victory without acknowledging those differences. Rigor!

I’ll say the quiet part out loud, demographics/SES play a large factor in student success and since we are UMC but are unwilling to be house poor and move inbounds for an Upper NW school, we opted for BASIS which has similar demographics. We understand that our child would do well in any school, and “rigor” is just another term associated with higher SES.

Schools with high UMC kids should be showing at least 90% of the student body as achieving +5s. I'm really irritated by the fact that +5 percentages aren't broken out. What is the point of this??

You are also clueless. There are plenty of UMC average kids, more so than above average or high performing, not to mention kids with IEP, 504, dyslexia, etc…

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Anonymous wrote:And if you want to know where BASIS pulls from, https://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/page_content/attachments/SY2122_Public%20School%20Enrollments%20per%20DCPS%20Boundary_0.xlsx

25 kids from Deal boundary
17 kids from Hardy boundary
11 kids from Maury boundary
15 kids from SWW@FS boundary
33 kids from J-R boundary

So let's not be saying that BASIS doesn't pull from high-income areas. And those are just the schools with 10 or more kids at BASIS.

It's true that BASIS pulls kids from EOTR, but so does Deal.

Did you think no one was familiar with the data and would notice you ae playing games and cherry picking?

There are almost as many kids IB from Eastern as the entire group you cherry picked. 20% of the HS kids are from JR. 15% of the MS (excluding 5th grade, obv) is from Deal and Hardy. Your cherry picked group is less than 100 out of 650 enrolled.

Here's what you didn't paste:

Anacostia High School 12
Dunbar High School 31
Eastern High School 80
Roosevelt High School 14
Brookland Middle School 10
Eliot-Hine Middle School 36
Hardy Middle School 17
Hart Middle School 11
Ida B. Wells Middle School 14
Jefferson Middle School Academy 47
Kelly Miller Middle School 11
MacFarland Middle School 28
McKinley Middle School 10
Sousa Middle School 11
Stuart-Hobson Middle School 54

So BASIS pulls from all these areas and STILL has only 7% overall "at risk" for their total population. Why is that? This just proves the self-selection point.

8%.

Janney has less than 1% at risk. Why don’t you go picket them?

Because they aren't claiming that it's the result of "100% pure lottery!!!!!". Nor do they refuse to backfill.

They won’t let in out of bounds!!!! Bus the kids in now!!!!

I guess it's because I feel like Janney is what it is, it's not trying to convince people it's anything other than a vast-majority-high-income school that performs as expected for its demographics. Unlike BASIS which wants to claim "100% pure lottery" (which is itself disingenuous when sibling preference and the Equitable Action preference at other schools skews things), and then pretend that their policies and poor retention don't have any impact on their demographics. And then likes to compare to schools with different policies and different demographics and claim victory without acknowledging those differences. Rigor!

I’ll say the quiet part out loud, demographics/SES play a large factor in student success and since we are UMC but are unwilling to be house poor and move inbounds for an Upper NW school, we opted for BASIS which has similar demographics. We understand that our child would do well in any school, and “rigor” is just another term associated with higher SES.

Schools with high UMC kids should be showing at least 90% of the student body as achieving +5s. I'm really irritated by the fact that +5 percentages aren't broken out. What is the point of this??

You are also clueless. There are plenty of UMC average kids, more so than above average or high performing, not to mention kids with IEP, 504, dyslexia, etc…

And there are plenty of UMC kids who NT and gifted. Especially in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:And if you want to know where BASIS pulls from, https://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/page_content/attachments/SY2122_Public%20School%20Enrollments%20per%20DCPS%20Boundary_0.xlsx

25 kids from Deal boundary
17 kids from Hardy boundary
11 kids from Maury boundary
15 kids from SWW@FS boundary
33 kids from J-R boundary

So let's not be saying that BASIS doesn't pull from high-income areas. And those are just the schools with 10 or more kids at BASIS.

It's true that BASIS pulls kids from EOTR, but so does Deal.

Did you think no one was familiar with the data and would notice you ae playing games and cherry picking?

There are almost as many kids IB from Eastern as the entire group you cherry picked. 20% of the HS kids are from JR. 15% of the MS (excluding 5th grade, obv) is from Deal and Hardy. Your cherry picked group is less than 100 out of 650 enrolled.

Here's what you didn't paste:

Anacostia High School 12
Dunbar High School 31
Eastern High School 80
Roosevelt High School 14
Brookland Middle School 10
Eliot-Hine Middle School 36
Hardy Middle School 17
Hart Middle School 11
Ida B. Wells Middle School 14
Jefferson Middle School Academy 47
Kelly Miller Middle School 11
MacFarland Middle School 28
McKinley Middle School 10
Sousa Middle School 11
Stuart-Hobson Middle School 54

So BASIS pulls from all these areas and STILL has only 7% overall "at risk" for their total population. Why is that? This just proves the self-selection point.

8%.

Janney has less than 1% at risk. Why don’t you go picket them?

Because they aren't claiming that it's the result of "100% pure lottery!!!!!". Nor do they refuse to backfill.

They won’t let in out of bounds!!!! Bus the kids in now!!!!

I guess it's because I feel like Janney is what it is, it's not trying to convince people it's anything other than a vast-majority-high-income school that performs as expected for its demographics. Unlike BASIS which wants to claim "100% pure lottery" (which is itself disingenuous when sibling preference and the Equitable Action preference at other schools skews things), and then pretend that their policies and poor retention don't have any impact on their demographics. And then likes to compare to schools with different policies and different demographics and claim victory without acknowledging those differences. Rigor!

I’ll say the quiet part out loud, demographics/SES play a large factor in student success and since we are UMC but are unwilling to be house poor and move inbounds for an Upper NW school, we opted for BASIS which has similar demographics. We understand that our child would do well in any school, and “rigor” is just another term associated with higher SES.

Schools with high UMC kids should be showing at least 90% of the student body as achieving +5s. I'm really irritated by the fact that +5 percentages aren't broken out. What is the point of this??

You are also clueless. There are plenty of UMC average kids, more so than above average or high performing, not to mention kids with IEP, 504, dyslexia, etc…

And there are plenty of UMC kids who NT and gifted. Especially in DC.

Sorry but no. Maybe above average but not truly gifted.

Lots of people think their kid is gifted when they really are not.

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Anonymous wrote:And if you want to know where BASIS pulls from, https://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/page_content/attachments/SY2122_Public%20School%20Enrollments%20per%20DCPS%20Boundary_0.xlsx

25 kids from Deal boundary
17 kids from Hardy boundary
11 kids from Maury boundary
15 kids from SWW@FS boundary
33 kids from J-R boundary

So let's not be saying that BASIS doesn't pull from high-income areas. And those are just the schools with 10 or more kids at BASIS.

It's true that BASIS pulls kids from EOTR, but so does Deal.

Did you think no one was familiar with the data and would notice you ae playing games and cherry picking?

There are almost as many kids IB from Eastern as the entire group you cherry picked. 20% of the HS kids are from JR. 15% of the MS (excluding 5th grade, obv) is from Deal and Hardy. Your cherry picked group is less than 100 out of 650 enrolled.

Here's what you didn't paste:

Anacostia High School 12
Dunbar High School 31
Eastern High School 80
Roosevelt High School 14
Brookland Middle School 10
Eliot-Hine Middle School 36
Hardy Middle School 17
Hart Middle School 11
Ida B. Wells Middle School 14
Jefferson Middle School Academy 47
Kelly Miller Middle School 11
MacFarland Middle School 28
McKinley Middle School 10
Sousa Middle School 11
Stuart-Hobson Middle School 54

So BASIS pulls from all these areas and STILL has only 7% overall "at risk" for their total population. Why is that? This just proves the self-selection point.

8%.

Janney has less than 1% at risk. Why don’t you go picket them?

Because they aren't claiming that it's the result of "100% pure lottery!!!!!". Nor do they refuse to backfill.

They won’t let in out of bounds!!!! Bus the kids in now!!!!

I guess it's because I feel like Janney is what it is, it's not trying to convince people it's anything other than a vast-majority-high-income school that performs as expected for its demographics. Unlike BASIS which wants to claim "100% pure lottery" (which is itself disingenuous when sibling preference and the Equitable Action preference at other schools skews things), and then pretend that their policies and poor retention don't have any impact on their demographics. And then likes to compare to schools with different policies and different demographics and claim victory without acknowledging those differences. Rigor!

I’ll say the quiet part out loud, demographics/SES play a large factor in student success and since we are UMC but are unwilling to be house poor and move inbounds for an Upper NW school, we opted for BASIS which has similar demographics. We understand that our child would do well in any school, and “rigor” is just another term associated with higher SES.

Schools with high UMC kids should be showing at least 90% of the student body as achieving +5s. I'm really irritated by the fact that +5 percentages aren't broken out. What is the point of this??

You are also clueless. There are plenty of UMC average kids, more so than above average or high performing, not to mention kids with IEP, 504, dyslexia, etc…

And there are plenty of UMC kids who NT and gifted. Especially in DC.

Sorry but no. Maybe above average but not truly gifted.

Lots of people think their kid is gifted when they really are not.

You don't need to be gifted to get a +5 on PARCC. That's why I expect a ton of +5s, especially in schools with high UMC populations. Why can't OSSE show that?

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Anonymous wrote:And if you want to know where BASIS pulls from, https://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/page_content/attachments/SY2122_Public%20School%20Enrollments%20per%20DCPS%20Boundary_0.xlsx

25 kids from Deal boundary
17 kids from Hardy boundary
11 kids from Maury boundary
15 kids from SWW@FS boundary
33 kids from J-R boundary

So let's not be saying that BASIS doesn't pull from high-income areas. And those are just the schools with 10 or more kids at BASIS.

It's true that BASIS pulls kids from EOTR, but so does Deal.

Did you think no one was familiar with the data and would notice you ae playing games and cherry picking?

There are almost as many kids IB from Eastern as the entire group you cherry picked. 20% of the HS kids are from JR. 15% of the MS (excluding 5th grade, obv) is from Deal and Hardy. Your cherry picked group is less than 100 out of 650 enrolled.

Here's what you didn't paste:

Anacostia High School 12
Dunbar High School 31
Eastern High School 80
Roosevelt High School 14
Brookland Middle School 10
Eliot-Hine Middle School 36
Hardy Middle School 17
Hart Middle School 11
Ida B. Wells Middle School 14
Jefferson Middle School Academy 47
Kelly Miller Middle School 11
MacFarland Middle School 28
McKinley Middle School 10
Sousa Middle School 11
Stuart-Hobson Middle School 54

So BASIS pulls from all these areas and STILL has only 7% overall "at risk" for their total population. Why is that? This just proves the self-selection point.

8%.

Janney has less than 1% at risk. Why don’t you go picket them?

Because they aren't claiming that it's the result of "100% pure lottery!!!!!". Nor do they refuse to backfill.

They won’t let in out of bounds!!!! Bus the kids in now!!!!

I guess it's because I feel like Janney is what it is, it's not trying to convince people it's anything other than a vast-majority-high-income school that performs as expected for its demographics. Unlike BASIS which wants to claim "100% pure lottery" (which is itself disingenuous when sibling preference and the Equitable Action preference at other schools skews things), and then pretend that their policies and poor retention don't have any impact on their demographics. And then likes to compare to schools with different policies and different demographics and claim victory without acknowledging those differences. Rigor!

I’ll say the quiet part out loud, demographics/SES play a large factor in student success and since we are UMC but are unwilling to be house poor and move inbounds for an Upper NW school, we opted for BASIS which has similar demographics. We understand that our child would do well in any school, and “rigor” is just another term associated with higher SES.

Schools with high UMC kids should be showing at least 90% of the student body as achieving +5s. I'm really irritated by the fact that +5 percentages aren't broken out. What is the point of this??

You are also clueless. There are plenty of UMC average kids, more so than above average or high performing, not to mention kids with IEP, 504, dyslexia, etc…

And there are plenty of UMC kids who NT and gifted. Especially in DC.

Sorry but no. Maybe above average but not truly gifted.

Lots of people think their kid is gifted when they really are not.

You don't need to be gifted to get a +5 on PARCC. That's why I expect a ton of +5s, especially in schools with high UMC populations. Why can't OSSE show that?

You need to be performing above grade level so high performing. If you think the majority of UMC kids are in the high performing group, you are wrong.

There is a bell shape curve with grade level under the middle and your outliers (low performing and high performing on the outliers. Sometimes that bell shape curve can shift a little to the right but in no way does it shift far right to have majority of kids high performing.

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Anonymous wrote:And if you want to know where BASIS pulls from, https://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/page_content/attachments/SY2122_Public%20School%20Enrollments%20per%20DCPS%20Boundary_0.xlsx

25 kids from Deal boundary
17 kids from Hardy boundary
11 kids from Maury boundary
15 kids from SWW@FS boundary
33 kids from J-R boundary

So let's not be saying that BASIS doesn't pull from high-income areas. And those are just the schools with 10 or more kids at BASIS.

It's true that BASIS pulls kids from EOTR, but so does Deal.

Did you think no one was familiar with the data and would notice you ae playing games and cherry picking?

There are almost as many kids IB from Eastern as the entire group you cherry picked. 20% of the HS kids are from JR. 15% of the MS (excluding 5th grade, obv) is from Deal and Hardy. Your cherry picked group is less than 100 out of 650 enrolled.

Here's what you didn't paste:

Anacostia High School 12
Dunbar High School 31
Eastern High School 80
Roosevelt High School 14
Brookland Middle School 10
Eliot-Hine Middle School 36
Hardy Middle School 17
Hart Middle School 11
Ida B. Wells Middle School 14
Jefferson Middle School Academy 47
Kelly Miller Middle School 11
MacFarland Middle School 28
McKinley Middle School 10
Sousa Middle School 11
Stuart-Hobson Middle School 54

So BASIS pulls from all these areas and STILL has only 7% overall "at risk" for their total population. Why is that? This just proves the self-selection point.

8%.

Janney has less than 1% at risk. Why don’t you go picket them?

Because they aren't claiming that it's the result of "100% pure lottery!!!!!". Nor do they refuse to backfill.

They won’t let in out of bounds!!!! Bus the kids in now!!!!

I guess it's because I feel like Janney is what it is, it's not trying to convince people it's anything other than a vast-majority-high-income school that performs as expected for its demographics. Unlike BASIS which wants to claim "100% pure lottery" (which is itself disingenuous when sibling preference and the Equitable Action preference at other schools skews things), and then pretend that their policies and poor retention don't have any impact on their demographics. And then likes to compare to schools with different policies and different demographics and claim victory without acknowledging those differences. Rigor!

I’ll say the quiet part out loud, demographics/SES play a large factor in student success and since we are UMC but are unwilling to be house poor and move inbounds for an Upper NW school, we opted for BASIS which has similar demographics. We understand that our child would do well in any school, and “rigor” is just another term associated with higher SES.

Schools with high UMC kids should be showing at least 90% of the student body as achieving +5s. I'm really irritated by the fact that +5 percentages aren't broken out. What is the point of this??

You are also clueless. There are plenty of UMC average kids, more so than above average or high performing, not to mention kids with IEP, 504, dyslexia, etc…

And there are plenty of UMC kids who NT and gifted. Especially in DC.

Sorry but no. Maybe above average but not truly gifted.

Lots of people think their kid is gifted when they really are not.

You don't need to be gifted to get a +5 on PARCC. That's why I expect a ton of +5s, especially in schools with high UMC populations. Why can't OSSE show that?

You need to be performing above grade level so high performing. If you think the majority of UMC kids are in the high performing group, you are wrong.

There is a bell shape curve with grade level under the middle and your outliers (low performing and high performing on the outliers. Sometimes that bell shape curve can shift a little to the right but in no way does it shift far right to have majority of kids high performing.

PARCC scores are on a bell curve????

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Anonymous wrote:And if you want to know where BASIS pulls from, https://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/page_content/attachments/SY2122_Public%20School%20Enrollments%20per%20DCPS%20Boundary_0.xlsx

25 kids from Deal boundary
17 kids from Hardy boundary
11 kids from Maury boundary
15 kids from SWW@FS boundary
33 kids from J-R boundary

So let's not be saying that BASIS doesn't pull from high-income areas. And those are just the schools with 10 or more kids at BASIS.

It's true that BASIS pulls kids from EOTR, but so does Deal.

Did you think no one was familiar with the data and would notice you ae playing games and cherry picking?

There are almost as many kids IB from Eastern as the entire group you cherry picked. 20% of the HS kids are from JR. 15% of the MS (excluding 5th grade, obv) is from Deal and Hardy. Your cherry picked group is less than 100 out of 650 enrolled.

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Anacostia High School 12
Dunbar High School 31
Eastern High School 80
Roosevelt High School 14
Brookland Middle School 10
Eliot-Hine Middle School 36
Hardy Middle School 17
Hart Middle School 11
Ida B. Wells Middle School 14
Jefferson Middle School Academy 47
Kelly Miller Middle School 11
MacFarland Middle School 28
McKinley Middle School 10
Sousa Middle School 11
Stuart-Hobson Middle School 54

Yes, but as someone who has a kid in a different city-wide lottery-in school, but can't afford the high real estate of DCPS who score above average on the PARCC, you have to account for the fact that those who lottery into BASIS are a self-selected group, more educated, more invested in their kids education, and THAT also counts for something.

This. Heck, if I got into a desirable charter middle nad high school, I might even take the opportunity to lower my housing cost by moving somewhere cheaper with a less-good IB school.

Me too. Especially if it's a combined middle/upper school, so once my kid is in, I don't have to worry about highschool.

We were (are?) definitely looking at houses closer to the forthcoming Latin Cooper location if DD had gotten in. IB for Dunbar!

This is how charter schools can drive gentrification. Latin should have opened up EOTR as they promised. Now they'll just drive up prices in Ward 5! Pp since you didn't get in what is your plan?

This is how charter school drive the retention of families within the city. This is how charters slow the number of people who leave the city once they have children.

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Anonymous wrote:And if you want to know where BASIS pulls from, https://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/page_content/attachments/SY2122_Public%20School%20Enrollments%20per%20DCPS%20Boundary_0.xlsx

25 kids from Deal boundary
17 kids from Hardy boundary
11 kids from Maury boundary
15 kids from SWW@FS boundary
33 kids from J-R boundary

So let's not be saying that BASIS doesn't pull from high-income areas. And those are just the schools with 10 or more kids at BASIS.

It's true that BASIS pulls kids from EOTR, but so does Deal.

Did you think no one was familiar with the data and would notice you ae playing games and cherry picking?

There are almost as many kids IB from Eastern as the entire group you cherry picked. 20% of the HS kids are from JR. 15% of the MS (excluding 5th grade, obv) is from Deal and Hardy. Your cherry picked group is less than 100 out of 650 enrolled.

Here's what you didn't paste:

Anacostia High School 12
Dunbar High School 31
Eastern High School 80
Roosevelt High School 14
Brookland Middle School 10
Eliot-Hine Middle School 36
Hardy Middle School 17
Hart Middle School 11
Ida B. Wells Middle School 14
Jefferson Middle School Academy 47
Kelly Miller Middle School 11
MacFarland Middle School 28
McKinley Middle School 10
Sousa Middle School 11
Stuart-Hobson Middle School 54

So BASIS pulls from all these areas and STILL has only 7% overall "at risk" for their total population. Why is that? This just proves the self-selection point.

8%.

Janney has less than 1% at risk. Why don’t you go picket them?

Because they aren't claiming that it's the result of "100% pure lottery!!!!!". Nor do they refuse to backfill.

They won’t let in out of bounds!!!! Bus the kids in now!!!!

I guess it's because I feel like Janney is what it is, it's not trying to convince people it's anything other than a vast-majority-high-income school that performs as expected for its demographics. Unlike BASIS which wants to claim "100% pure lottery" (which is itself disingenuous when sibling preference and the Equitable Action preference at other schools skews things), and then pretend that their policies and poor retention don't have any impact on their demographics. And then likes to compare to schools with different policies and different demographics and claim victory without acknowledging those differences. Rigor!

I’ll say the quiet part out loud, demographics/SES play a large factor in student success and since we are UMC but are unwilling to be house poor and move inbounds for an Upper NW school, we opted for BASIS which has similar demographics. We understand that our child would do well in any school, and “rigor” is just another term associated with higher SES.

Schools with high UMC kids should be showing at least 90% of the student body as achieving +5s. I'm really irritated by the fact that +5 percentages aren't broken out. What is the point of this??

Ha that’s funny. The PARCC is actually fairly rigorous and it’s not easy to get a 5. Remember Arne Duncan’s controversial comment on soccer moms being upset that their kids weren’t as brilliant and schools weren’t as special as they thought???

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Anonymous wrote:And if you want to know where BASIS pulls from, https://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/page_content/attachments/SY2122_Public%20School%20Enrollments%20per%20DCPS%20Boundary_0.xlsx

25 kids from Deal boundary
17 kids from Hardy boundary
11 kids from Maury boundary
15 kids from SWW@FS boundary
33 kids from J-R boundary

So let's not be saying that BASIS doesn't pull from high-income areas. And those are just the schools with 10 or more kids at BASIS.

It's true that BASIS pulls kids from EOTR, but so does Deal.

Did you think no one was familiar with the data and would notice you ae playing games and cherry picking?

There are almost as many kids IB from Eastern as the entire group you cherry picked. 20% of the HS kids are from JR. 15% of the MS (excluding 5th grade, obv) is from Deal and Hardy. Your cherry picked group is less than 100 out of 650 enrolled.

Here's what you didn't paste:

Anacostia High School 12
Dunbar High School 31
Eastern High School 80
Roosevelt High School 14
Brookland Middle School 10
Eliot-Hine Middle School 36
Hardy Middle School 17
Hart Middle School 11
Ida B. Wells Middle School 14
Jefferson Middle School Academy 47
Kelly Miller Middle School 11
MacFarland Middle School 28
McKinley Middle School 10
Sousa Middle School 11
Stuart-Hobson Middle School 54

So BASIS pulls from all these areas and STILL has only 7% overall "at risk" for their total population. Why is that? This just proves the self-selection point.

8%.

Janney has less than 1% at risk. Why don’t you go picket them?

Because they aren't claiming that it's the result of "100% pure lottery!!!!!". Nor do they refuse to backfill.

They won’t let in out of bounds!!!! Bus the kids in now!!!!

I guess it's because I feel like Janney is what it is, it's not trying to convince people it's anything other than a vast-majority-high-income school that performs as expected for its demographics. Unlike BASIS which wants to claim "100% pure lottery" (which is itself disingenuous when sibling preference and the Equitable Action preference at other schools skews things), and then pretend that their policies and poor retention don't have any impact on their demographics. And then likes to compare to schools with different policies and different demographics and claim victory without acknowledging those differences. Rigor!

I’ll say the quiet part out loud, demographics/SES play a large factor in student success and since we are UMC but are unwilling to be house poor and move inbounds for an Upper NW school, we opted for BASIS which has similar demographics. We understand that our child would do well in any school, and “rigor” is just another term associated with higher SES.

Schools with high UMC kids should be showing at least 90% of the student body as achieving +5s. I'm really irritated by the fact that +5 percentages aren't broken out. What is the point of this??

Ha that’s funny. The PARCC is actually fairly rigorous and it’s not easy to get a 5. Remember Arne Duncan’s controversial comment on soccer moms being upset that their kids weren’t as brilliant and schools weren’t as special as they thought???

+1

For 2021-22, in the whole city there were only 18 ninth graders who scored a “5” on math. The PP expecting “at least 90% of the student body” to get a 5 merely based on demographics is way off base.

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Anonymous wrote:And if you want to know where BASIS pulls from, https://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/page_content/attachments/SY2122_Public%20School%20Enrollments%20per%20DCPS%20Boundary_0.xlsx

25 kids from Deal boundary
17 kids from Hardy boundary
11 kids from Maury boundary
15 kids from SWW@FS boundary
33 kids from J-R boundary

So let's not be saying that BASIS doesn't pull from high-income areas. And those are just the schools with 10 or more kids at BASIS.

It's true that BASIS pulls kids from EOTR, but so does Deal.

Did you think no one was familiar with the data and would notice you ae playing games and cherry picking?

There are almost as many kids IB from Eastern as the entire group you cherry picked. 20% of the HS kids are from JR. 15% of the MS (excluding 5th grade, obv) is from Deal and Hardy. Your cherry picked group is less than 100 out of 650 enrolled.

Here's what you didn't paste:

Anacostia High School 12
Dunbar High School 31
Eastern High School 80
Roosevelt High School 14
Brookland Middle School 10
Eliot-Hine Middle School 36
Hardy Middle School 17
Hart Middle School 11
Ida B. Wells Middle School 14
Jefferson Middle School Academy 47
Kelly Miller Middle School 11
MacFarland Middle School 28
McKinley Middle School 10
Sousa Middle School 11
Stuart-Hobson Middle School 54

So BASIS pulls from all these areas and STILL has only 7% overall "at risk" for their total population. Why is that? This just proves the self-selection point.

8%.

Janney has less than 1% at risk. Why don’t you go picket them?

Because they aren't claiming that it's the result of "100% pure lottery!!!!!". Nor do they refuse to backfill.

They won’t let in out of bounds!!!! Bus the kids in now!!!!

I guess it's because I feel like Janney is what it is, it's not trying to convince people it's anything other than a vast-majority-high-income school that performs as expected for its demographics. Unlike BASIS which wants to claim "100% pure lottery" (which is itself disingenuous when sibling preference and the Equitable Action preference at other schools skews things), and then pretend that their policies and poor retention don't have any impact on their demographics. And then likes to compare to schools with different policies and different demographics and claim victory without acknowledging those differences. Rigor!

I’ll say the quiet part out loud, demographics/SES play a large factor in student success and since we are UMC but are unwilling to be house poor and move inbounds for an Upper NW school, we opted for BASIS which has similar demographics. We understand that our child would do well in any school, and “rigor” is just another term associated with higher SES.

Schools with high UMC kids should be showing at least 90% of the student body as achieving +5s. I'm really irritated by the fact that +5 percentages aren't broken out. What is the point of this??

Ha that’s funny. The PARCC is actually fairly rigorous and it’s not easy to get a 5. Remember Arne Duncan’s controversial comment on soccer moms being upset that their kids weren’t as brilliant and schools weren’t as special as they thought???

+1

For 2021-22, in the whole city there were only 18 ninth graders who scored a “5” on math. The PP expecting “at least 90% of the student body” to get a 5 merely based on demographics is way off base.

Separate from this kind of ridiculous conversation, can we sort scores by 4 versus 5 yet for the recently released scores? Or have they not release that yet?

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Anonymous wrote:And if you want to know where BASIS pulls from, https://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/page_content/attachments/SY2122_Public%20School%20Enrollments%20per%20DCPS%20Boundary_0.xlsx

25 kids from Deal boundary
17 kids from Hardy boundary
11 kids from Maury boundary
15 kids from SWW@FS boundary
33 kids from J-R boundary

So let's not be saying that BASIS doesn't pull from high-income areas. And those are just the schools with 10 or more kids at BASIS.

It's true that BASIS pulls kids from EOTR, but so does Deal.

Did you think no one was familiar with the data and would notice you ae playing games and cherry picking?

There are almost as many kids IB from Eastern as the entire group you cherry picked. 20% of the HS kids are from JR. 15% of the MS (excluding 5th grade, obv) is from Deal and Hardy. Your cherry picked group is less than 100 out of 650 enrolled.

Here's what you didn't paste:

Anacostia High School 12
Dunbar High School 31
Eastern High School 80
Roosevelt High School 14
Brookland Middle School 10
Eliot-Hine Middle School 36
Hardy Middle School 17
Hart Middle School 11
Ida B. Wells Middle School 14
Jefferson Middle School Academy 47
Kelly Miller Middle School 11
MacFarland Middle School 28
McKinley Middle School 10
Sousa Middle School 11
Stuart-Hobson Middle School 54

So BASIS pulls from all these areas and STILL has only 7% overall "at risk" for their total population. Why is that? This just proves the self-selection point.

8%.

Janney has less than 1% at risk. Why don’t you go picket them?

Because they aren't claiming that it's the result of "100% pure lottery!!!!!". Nor do they refuse to backfill.

They won’t let in out of bounds!!!! Bus the kids in now!!!!

I guess it's because I feel like Janney is what it is, it's not trying to convince people it's anything other than a vast-majority-high-income school that performs as expected for its demographics. Unlike BASIS which wants to claim "100% pure lottery" (which is itself disingenuous when sibling preference and the Equitable Action preference at other schools skews things), and then pretend that their policies and poor retention don't have any impact on their demographics. And then likes to compare to schools with different policies and different demographics and claim victory without acknowledging those differences. Rigor!

I’ll say the quiet part out loud, demographics/SES play a large factor in student success and since we are UMC but are unwilling to be house poor and move inbounds for an Upper NW school, we opted for BASIS which has similar demographics. We understand that our child would do well in any school, and “rigor” is just another term associated with higher SES.

Schools with high UMC kids should be showing at least 90% of the student body as achieving +5s. I'm really irritated by the fact that +5 percentages aren't broken out. What is the point of this??

Ha that’s funny. The PARCC is actually fairly rigorous and it’s not easy to get a 5. Remember Arne Duncan’s controversial comment on soccer moms being upset that their kids weren’t as brilliant and schools weren’t as special as they thought???

+1

For 2021-22, in the whole city there were only 18 ninth graders who scored a “5” on math. The PP expecting “at least 90% of the student body” to get a 5 merely based on demographics is way off base.

Separate from this kind of ridiculous conversation, can we sort scores by 4 versus 5 yet for the recently released scores? Or have they not release that yet?

Not yet.