Restorative Justice is struggling to show success in MCPS according to students, parents

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Anonymous wrote:RJ and removing SROs seem like a step in the right direction for MCPS. THe real problem appears to be that MCPD isn't doing its job.

This shows complete unawareness of what's happening. With now SROs, MCPS is 100% responsible for student safety. And they are failing. There is no job for MCPD to do if they can't be in the schools engaging in prevention.

On the contrary, MCPD is still responsible for enforcing laws in the county. That never changed. MCPS is responsible for educating students.

You can't have education in an unsafe situation. MCPS is 100% responsible for safety on its grounds. They have made police reactive rather than preventive. It's all on them.

I agree as long as “them” is the council council and Elrich. MCPD can’t do anything to help the schools when the politicians decided to keep MCPD out. To the posters blaming school violence on MCPD: you’re just being silly.

No, they are being purposefully dumb, or maybe they are really this dumb, and want to blame MCPD for everything, when it was Elrich and his progressive minions who took that power away from MCPD.

So you think King Elrich can forbid the police from doing their jobs? He simply removed SROs from the schools. MCPD are still responsible for enforcing laws in Montgomery county just like its MCPS job to educate children.

Sure, then let's bring back SROs so they can do their jobs in the schools. Ya with me?

I am. They never should have been taken out.

I heard SROs aren't all that effective at keeping school safe. They were present at both parkland and uvalde and look how that turned out.

Such a tired argument. I worked with an SRO who removed a gun from a student intent on using it that day. He prevented a Parkland or Uvalde. So… there’s your anecdote that they do work.

You just never hear about the good people do. We focus only on the bad.

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Anonymous wrote:RJ and removing SROs seem like a step in the right direction for MCPS. THe real problem appears to be that MCPD isn't doing its job.

This shows complete unawareness of what's happening. With now SROs, MCPS is 100% responsible for student safety. And they are failing. There is no job for MCPD to do if they can't be in the schools engaging in prevention.

On the contrary, MCPD is still responsible for enforcing laws in the county. That never changed. MCPS is responsible for educating students.

You can't have education in an unsafe situation. MCPS is 100% responsible for safety on its grounds. They have made police reactive rather than preventive. It's all on them.

I agree as long as “them” is the council council and Elrich. MCPD can’t do anything to help the schools when the politicians decided to keep MCPD out. To the posters blaming school violence on MCPD: you’re just being silly.

No, they are being purposefully dumb, or maybe they are really this dumb, and want to blame MCPD for everything, when it was Elrich and his progressive minions who took that power away from MCPD.

So you think King Elrich can forbid the police from doing their jobs? He simply removed SROs from the schools. MCPD are still responsible for enforcing laws in Montgomery county just like its MCPS job to educate children.

Can you explain how you think this worked? So SROs were removed, so they weren’t IN the schools to see the problems. Police, therefore, could only show up if MCPS called them. It’s hard to enforce rules and laws when you aren’t allowed to be in the halls.

CEO 2.0 should correct this. Let’s not pretend for a short second that this is MCPD’s fault, no matter how it might be spinned. Yes, this falls on Elrich and the council. Period.

All I know is that people here claim there's all this crime at Montgomery county schools. So I can't help but wonder why the people responsible for policing crime in our county , MCPD, aren't doing anything about it?

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Anonymous wrote:RJ and removing SROs seem like a step in the right direction for MCPS. THe real problem appears to be that MCPD isn't doing its job.

This shows complete unawareness of what's happening. With now SROs, MCPS is 100% responsible for student safety. And they are failing. There is no job for MCPD to do if they can't be in the schools engaging in prevention.

On the contrary, MCPD is still responsible for enforcing laws in the county. That never changed. MCPS is responsible for educating students.

You can't have education in an unsafe situation. MCPS is 100% responsible for safety on its grounds. They have made police reactive rather than preventive. It's all on them.

I agree as long as “them” is the council council and Elrich. MCPD can’t do anything to help the schools when the politicians decided to keep MCPD out. To the posters blaming school violence on MCPD: you’re just being silly.

No, they are being purposefully dumb, or maybe they are really this dumb, and want to blame MCPD for everything, when it was Elrich and his progressive minions who took that power away from MCPD.

So you think King Elrich can forbid the police from doing their jobs? He simply removed SROs from the schools. MCPD are still responsible for enforcing laws in Montgomery county just like its MCPS job to educate children.

Can you explain how you think this worked? So SROs were removed, so they weren’t IN the schools to see the problems. Police, therefore, could only show up if MCPS called them. It’s hard to enforce rules and laws when you aren’t allowed to be in the halls.

CEO 2.0 should correct this. Let’s not pretend for a short second that this is MCPD’s fault, no matter how it might be spinned. Yes, this falls on Elrich and the council. Period.

All I know is that people here claim there's all this crime at Montgomery county schools. So I can't help but wonder why the people responsible for policing crime in our county , MCPD, aren't doing anything about it?

So you agree that SROs should be in school to arrest kids who commit felonies?

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Anonymous wrote:RJ and removing SROs seem like a step in the right direction for MCPS. THe real problem appears to be that MCPD isn't doing its job.

This shows complete unawareness of what's happening. With now SROs, MCPS is 100% responsible for student safety. And they are failing. There is no job for MCPD to do if they can't be in the schools engaging in prevention.

On the contrary, MCPD is still responsible for enforcing laws in the county. That never changed. MCPS is responsible for educating students.

You can't have education in an unsafe situation. MCPS is 100% responsible for safety on its grounds. They have made police reactive rather than preventive. It's all on them.

I agree as long as “them” is the council council and Elrich. MCPD can’t do anything to help the schools when the politicians decided to keep MCPD out. To the posters blaming school violence on MCPD: you’re just being silly.

No, they are being purposefully dumb, or maybe they are really this dumb, and want to blame MCPD for everything, when it was Elrich and his progressive minions who took that power away from MCPD.

So you think King Elrich can forbid the police from doing their jobs? He simply removed SROs from the schools. MCPD are still responsible for enforcing laws in Montgomery county just like its MCPS job to educate children.

Sure, then let's bring back SROs so they can do their jobs in the schools. Ya with me?

I am. They never should have been taken out.

I heard SROs aren't all that effective at keeping school safe. They were present at both parkland and uvalde and look how that turned out.

1. Parkland had a so-called cop who hid. Read “Why Meadow Died”.
2. Check the Uvalde surveillance tapes of the school hallway. Cops literally tried to get in that classroom, but you can see some white man wearing a black polo shirt and kakki pants, blocking the cops. I never heard exactly who he was.
The man who got in that classroom wasn’t a cop, so he simply ignored the man in the black shirt, and got into the classroom.

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Anonymous wrote:RJ and removing SROs seem like a step in the right direction for MCPS. THe real problem appears to be that MCPD isn't doing its job.

This shows complete unawareness of what's happening. With now SROs, MCPS is 100% responsible for student safety. And they are failing. There is no job for MCPD to do if they can't be in the schools engaging in prevention.

On the contrary, MCPD is still responsible for enforcing laws in the county. That never changed. MCPS is responsible for educating students.

Police won't come to enforce laws if they're not called. Do you expect them to mind read?

You can't have education in an unsafe situation. MCPS is 100% responsible for safety on its grounds. They have made police reactive rather than preventive. It's all on them.

I agree as long as “them” is the council council and Elrich. MCPD can’t do anything to help the schools when the politicians decided to keep MCPD out. To the posters blaming school violence on MCPD: you’re just being silly.

No, they are being purposefully dumb, or maybe they are really this dumb, and want to blame MCPD for everything, when it was Elrich and his progressive minions who took that power away from MCPD.

So you think King Elrich can forbid the police from doing their jobs? He simply removed SROs from the schools. MCPD are still responsible for enforcing laws in Montgomery county just like its MCPS job to educate children.

Can you explain how you think this worked? So SROs were removed, so they weren’t IN the schools to see the problems. Police, therefore, could only show up if MCPS called them. It’s hard to enforce rules and laws when you aren’t allowed to be in the halls.

CEO 2.0 should correct this. Let’s not pretend for a short second that this is MCPD’s fault, no matter how it might be spinned. Yes, this falls on Elrich and the council. Period.

All I know is that people here claim there's all this crime at Montgomery county schools. So I can't help but wonder why the people responsible for policing crime in our county , MCPD, aren't doing anything about it?

So you agree that SROs should be in school to arrest kids who commit felonies?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RJ and removing SROs seem like a step in the right direction for MCPS. THe real problem appears to be that MCPD isn't doing its job.

This shows complete unawareness of what's happening. With now SROs, MCPS is 100% responsible for student safety. And they are failing. There is no job for MCPD to do if they can't be in the schools engaging in prevention.

On the contrary, MCPD is still responsible for enforcing laws in the county. That never changed. MCPS is responsible for educating students.

You can't have education in an unsafe situation. MCPS is 100% responsible for safety on its grounds. They have made police reactive rather than preventive. It's all on them.

I agree as long as “them” is the council council and Elrich. MCPD can’t do anything to help the schools when the politicians decided to keep MCPD out. To the posters blaming school violence on MCPD: you’re just being silly.

No, they are being purposefully dumb, or maybe they are really this dumb, and want to blame MCPD for everything, when it was Elrich and his progressive minions who took that power away from MCPD.

So you think King Elrich can forbid the police from doing their jobs? He simply removed SROs from the schools. MCPD are still responsible for enforcing laws in Montgomery county just like its MCPS job to educate children.

Can you explain how you think this worked? So SROs were removed, so they weren’t IN the schools to see the problems. Police, therefore, could only show up if MCPS called them. It’s hard to enforce rules and laws when you aren’t allowed to be in the halls.

CEO 2.0 should correct this. Let’s not pretend for a short second that this is MCPD’s fault, no matter how it might be spinned. Yes, this falls on Elrich and the council. Period.

All I know is that people here claim there's all this crime at Montgomery county schools. So I can't help but wonder why the people responsible for policing crime in our county , MCPD, aren't doing anything about it?

This isn’t hard. I just explained it to you. The county Exec, against the wishes of 100% of school principals, removed SROs. That meant the police did not have a proactive presence on the schools. Because he did that, the police would only be involved in school crimes if the school actually called… and it would be 100% reactive. This is on the politicians, not on the police. The politicians removed the police. It’s that simple.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:RJ and removing SROs seem like a step in the right direction for MCPS. THe real problem appears to be that MCPD isn't doing its job.

This shows complete unawareness of what's happening. With now SROs, MCPS is 100% responsible for student safety. And they are failing. There is no job for MCPD to do if they can't be in the schools engaging in prevention.

On the contrary, MCPD is still responsible for enforcing laws in the county. That never changed. MCPS is responsible for educating students.

You can't have education in an unsafe situation. MCPS is 100% responsible for safety on its grounds. They have made police reactive rather than preventive. It's all on them.

I agree as long as “them” is the council council and Elrich. MCPD can’t do anything to help the schools when the politicians decided to keep MCPD out. To the posters blaming school violence on MCPD: you’re just being silly.

No, they are being purposefully dumb, or maybe they are really this dumb, and want to blame MCPD for everything, when it was Elrich and his progressive minions who took that power away from MCPD.

So you think King Elrich can forbid the police from doing their jobs? He simply removed SROs from the schools. MCPD are still responsible for enforcing laws in Montgomery county just like its MCPS job to educate children.

Can you explain how you think this worked? So SROs were removed, so they weren’t IN the schools to see the problems. Police, therefore, could only show up if MCPS called them. It’s hard to enforce rules and laws when you aren’t allowed to be in the halls.

CEO 2.0 should correct this. Let’s not pretend for a short second that this is MCPD’s fault, no matter how it might be spinned. Yes, this falls on Elrich and the council. Period.

Elrich has blood on his hands. What was his excuse?

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So you're saying it's on the politicians because MCPD is refusing to enforce our laws?

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Anonymous wrote:So you're saying it's on the politicians because MCPD is refusing to enforce our laws?

So you agree that SROs should be brought back to enforce those laws?

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Anonymous wrote:So you're saying it's on the politicians because MCPD is refusing to enforce our laws?

So you agree that SROs should be brought back to enforce those laws?

I'm not so sure. They were present at Parkland and Uvalde, and everyone knows how that turned out. The bottom line is they just don't make schools any safer.

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Anonymous wrote:So you're saying it's on the politicians because MCPD is refusing to enforce our laws?

So you agree that SROs should be brought back to enforce those laws?

Whether there are SROs or not, MCPD has an obligation to enforce the law in Montgomery County, but according to many posts here they aren't.

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Anonymous wrote:So you're saying it's on the politicians because MCPD is refusing to enforce our laws?

So you agree that SROs should be brought back to enforce those laws?

I'm not so sure. They were present at Parkland and Uvalde, and everyone knows how that turned out. The bottom line is they just don't make schools any safer.

SROs aren't there to stop a 1 in 500,000 chance of a massacre. They are there to provide a deterrent and fast response to incidents of drugs and violence that happen on a daily basis. By your reasoning, since the cops in Uvalde didn't stop the shooter, cops are of no value to society either. Which actually I wouldn't be surprised if you hippy ass people actually do believe lol

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Anonymous wrote:So you're saying it's on the politicians because MCPD is refusing to enforce our laws?

So you agree that SROs should be brought back to enforce those laws?

Whether there are SROs or not, MCPD has an obligation to enforce the law in Montgomery County, but according to many posts here they aren't.

So you agree that SROs should be brought back so they can do their jobs, enforcing the law?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So you're saying it's on the politicians because MCPD is refusing to enforce our laws?

So you agree that SROs should be brought back to enforce those laws?

I'm not so sure. They were present at Parkland and Uvalde, and everyone knows how that turned out. The bottom line is they just don't make schools any safer.

SROs aren't there to stop a 1 in 500,000 chance of a massacre. They are there to provide a deterrent and fast response to incidents of drugs and violence that happen on a daily basis. By your reasoning, since the cops in Uvalde didn't stop the shooter, cops are of no value to society either. Which actually I wouldn't be surprised if you hippy ass people actually do believe lol

There are news stories of politicians who supported defund the police singing a different tune.

https://komonews.com/news/nation-world/san-francisco-official-who-pushed-to-defund-police-pleads-for-more-officers-in-her-district-hillary-ronen-mission-district

remember the exmayor of Chicago was voted out due to an increase in crime that followed defund the police.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So you're saying it's on the politicians because MCPD is refusing to enforce our laws?

This is such a warped view. If the police are told NOT to be in schools, and the schools don’t call for help… do you expect police to just KNOW when things are occurring? They aren’t mind readers.

You can’t have it both ways. You can’t take away their ability to do their job and then get mad when crimes occur.