MCPS High School 7:45am for teens is to early

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Anonymous wrote:There is a national movement to push back HS start times. Here is the local MCPS group:


https://www.startschoollater.net/md---montgomery-county.html.

And a letter from the MC Chapter Leader:

https://www.startschoollater.net/uploads/9/7/9/6/9796500/final_ssl_montgomery_county_2022_election_letter.pdf

This organization is a money grab selling the the leadership's books...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is a national movement to push back HS start times. Here is the local MCPS group:


https://www.startschoollater.net/md---montgomery-county.html.

And a letter from the MC Chapter Leader:

https://www.startschoollater.net/uploads/9/7/9/6/9796500/final_ssl_montgomery_county_2022_election_letter.pdf

This organization is a money grab selling the the leadership's books...

While you may feel that way, I do know the local chapter leader personally; nothing on her end re selling books/stuff or $$ grab. Honestly believes it's the best and right thing to do for the students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is a national movement to push back HS start times. Here is the local MCPS group:


https://www.startschoollater.net/md---montgomery-county.html.

And a letter from the MC Chapter Leader:

https://www.startschoollater.net/uploads/9/7/9/6/9796500/final_ssl_montgomery_county_2022_election_letter.pdf

This organization is a money grab selling the the leadership's books...

While you may feel that way, I do know the local chapter leader personally; nothing on her end re selling books/stuff or $$ grab. Honestly believes it's the best and right thing to do for the students.

And some of them are posting here

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Anonymous wrote:Also the problem is kids have too much screen time which makes it hard to go to sleep. If they need to do sone homework on a computer make sure they do that before dinner. When they don’t start homework until late it will mess with melatonin. Be the parent and limit screen time before bed and it will work wonders.

Maybe your kids buy when do they have time. Mine have activities, tutoring and homework. That’s a parenting issue.

Sounds like your parenting issue is overscheduling your kids.....

Having my kids involved with sports and music to enrich their lives, which is also their choice, is not over scheduling. Utilizing the free tutoring MCPS is providing as a support is not over-scheduling. And, yet, my kids are just fine with the school schedule and don't need extra sleep like yours do. Maybe if your kids were involved in more activities they'd be tired and could go to bed and it would keep them off social media/electronics.

You're unhinged.

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Anonymous wrote:Also the problem is kids have too much screen time which makes it hard to go to sleep. If they need to do sone homework on a computer make sure they do that before dinner. When they don’t start homework until late it will mess with melatonin. Be the parent and limit screen time before bed and it will work wonders.

Maybe your kids buy when do they have time. Mine have activities, tutoring and homework. That’s a parenting issue.

Sounds like your parenting issue is overscheduling your kids.....

Having my kids involved with sports and music to enrich their lives, which is also their choice, is not over scheduling. Utilizing the free tutoring MCPS is providing as a support is not over-scheduling. And, yet, my kids are just fine with the school schedule and don't need extra sleep like yours do. Maybe if your kids were involved in more activities they'd be tired and could go to bed and it would keep them off social media/electronics.

Huh? I'm the first PP- I never said my kids were spending too much time on social media/screens. But there is plenty of evidence that screentime before bed makes it harder to sleep and I notice that myself anecdotally if I'm on the computer or watching TV right before bed. It's more of a reminder that if your kids are having trouble falling asleep, shift the screen activities earlier and see if that makes a difference. Which I know, is hard with all the homework being on a Chromebook. If this isn't a problem with your kids, move on. If your kids are already in high school, there is zero chance MCPS will disrupt your ideal schedule so don't worry.

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Anonymous wrote:10:14 again- the only way I could ever see MCPS changing on this is if the tide turns against them, i.e. other area districts make the switch en masse. IIRC only Loudon has tried so far.

Many other districts start later than MCPS.
DCPS, Loudon, Arlington, Howard, etc all start later.
Most states start high school later than MCPS.
But somehow people here think logistical issues are unsolvable in MCPS.
Makes me feel like our county is backward thinking and not solution oriented

Nobody has said that they are unsolvable. MCPS can solve them, by either (1) redirecting a lot of school funding to buses and bus drivers, or (2) shifting the current schedule. MCPS has twice decided that the potential disadvantages of either option outweigh the potential advantages. It's valid to say that you disagree with this decision. It's not valid to say that MCPS didn't consider the options.

are you willing to be a driver?

There is an obvious solution to the bus driver shortage. MCPS needs to pay them more. You cannot pay pennies and expect people to work.
Same with teachers. If there is a shortage, increase pay. That is how things work

In this obvious solution, what should MCPS stop paying for, in order to pay for more bus drivers, so that high school students can start school at a non-ridiculously-early time? Keeping in mind that even underpaid labor is expensive.

There's also the issue that everyone is having a bus driver shortage, including public transportation agencies that pay quite well.

I'll offer one - get rid of that awful Leader in Me program. I don't want to know how much they pay for it.

Too much for what it is, $0 would be too much, but not enough to pay for more buses and higher pay for bus drivers.

Oh and don't forget bocce and the kids museum because they're on my grudge list!

I'm sorry that the inclusion of students with disabilities is something "on your grudge list".

Fortunately, federal law doesn't agree with you.

Neither has to do with inclusion.

MCPS added bocce and other corollary sports in response to a 2008 law called the "Fitness and Athletic Equity Law for Students with Disabilities". Their existence and importance is due to inclusion.

https://www.disabilityrightsmd.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Fitness-and-Athletic-Equity-Law-For-Students-with-Disabilities.pdf

[Anonymous]

DCPS students get out at 3.30 pm and yet their students are still able to fit in sports and other activities.
Some clubs meet before school.
Sometimes kids go in early to meet with a teacher or make up a test they missed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCPS students get out at 3.30 pm and yet their students are still able to fit in sports and other activities.
Some clubs meet before school.
Sometimes kids go in early to meet with a teacher or make up a test they missed

It would be way later in MCPS is ES and HS flipped though.

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Anonymous wrote:Also the problem is kids have too much screen time which makes it hard to go to sleep. If they need to do sone homework on a computer make sure they do that before dinner. When they don’t start homework until late it will mess with melatonin. Be the parent and limit screen time before bed and it will work wonders.

Maybe your kids buy when do they have time. Mine have activities, tutoring and homework. That’s a parenting issue.

Sounds like your parenting issue is overscheduling your kids.....

Having my kids involved with sports and music to enrich their lives, which is also their choice, is not over scheduling. Utilizing the free tutoring MCPS is providing as a support is not over-scheduling. And, yet, my kids are just fine with the school schedule and don't need extra sleep like yours do. Maybe if your kids were involved in more activities they'd be tired and could go to bed and it would keep them off social media/electronics.

Huh? I'm the first PP- I never said my kids were spending too much time on social media/screens. But there is plenty of evidence that screentime before bed makes it harder to sleep and I notice that myself anecdotally if I'm on the computer or watching TV right before bed. It's more of a reminder that if your kids are having trouble falling asleep, shift the screen activities earlier and see if that makes a difference. Which I know, is hard with all the homework being on a Chromebook. If this isn't a problem with your kids, move on. If your kids are already in high school, there is zero chance MCPS will disrupt your ideal schedule so don't worry.

Clearly it’s an issue in your home as you are commenting. Screen time is not the issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCPS students get out at 3.30 pm and yet their students are still able to fit in sports and other activities.
Some clubs meet before school.
Sometimes kids go in early to meet with a teacher or make up a test they missed

DCPS also doesn't have bus service. Given that a huge factor in the MCPS bell time discussion is the ability to service bus routes, I don't think a comparison to DCPS makes sense.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to hs in the 90s and our start time was 7:10. I wasn’t on a cell phone. It was brutal and looking back I strongly believe my hs years and my entire friggin trajectory in life would’ve been better if I didn’t have to wake up by 6am. I won’t do this to my kids.

Are you always this absurdly melodramatic, or only on DCUM?

The chronic sleep deprivation heavily contributed to my first major depressive episode at 16. The consequences of which reverberated throughout the following years. It's not melodrama.

Then you should hmave gone to bed earlier or napped. That’s not why.

Lol you are ignorant AF about human physiology at that age and the fact that I played sports year round and took AP courses. I literally could not go to bed any earlier. And I also had anxiety around bedtime thinking yo myself “I have to be awake in 7 hours, I have to be awake in 6.5 hours… I’m going to be so tired.”

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Anonymous wrote:DCPS students get out at 3.30 pm and yet their students are still able to fit in sports and other activities.
Some clubs meet before school.
Sometimes kids go in early to meet with a teacher or make up a test they missed

It would be way later in MCPS is ES and HS flipped though.

If HS took the latest morning time, they would be out at 4:10.

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Anonymous wrote:Also the problem is kids have too much screen time which makes it hard to go to sleep. If they need to do sone homework on a computer make sure they do that before dinner. When they don’t start homework until late it will mess with melatonin. Be the parent and limit screen time before bed and it will work wonders.

Maybe your kids buy when do they have time. Mine have activities, tutoring and homework. That’s a parenting issue.

Sounds like your parenting issue is overscheduling your kids.....

Having my kids involved with sports and music to enrich their lives, which is also their choice, is not over scheduling. Utilizing the free tutoring MCPS is providing as a support is not over-scheduling. And, yet, my kids are just fine with the school schedule and don't need extra sleep like yours do. Maybe if your kids were involved in more activities they'd be tired and could go to bed and it would keep them off social media/electronics.

Huh? I'm the first PP- I never said my kids were spending too much time on social media/screens. But there is plenty of evidence that screentime before bed makes it harder to sleep and I notice that myself anecdotally if I'm on the computer or watching TV right before bed. It's more of a reminder that if your kids are having trouble falling asleep, shift the screen activities earlier and see if that makes a difference. Which I know, is hard with all the homework being on a Chromebook. If this isn't a problem with your kids, move on. If your kids are already in high school, there is zero chance MCPS will disrupt your ideal schedule so don't worry.

Clearly it’s an issue in your home as you are commenting. Screen time is not the issue.

JFC lady I’m trying to help people who say their kids can’t fall asleep at night. No one ever complained about kids not being able to fall asleep at night in the 80s, I wonder why…..

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Anonymous wrote:I went to hs in the 90s and our start time was 7:10. I wasn’t on a cell phone. It was brutal and looking back I strongly believe my hs years and my entire friggin trajectory in life would’ve been better if I didn’t have to wake up by 6am. I won’t do this to my kids.

Are you always this absurdly melodramatic, or only on DCUM?

The chronic sleep deprivation heavily contributed to my first major depressive episode at 16. The consequences of which reverberated throughout the following years. It's not melodrama.

Then you should hmave gone to bed earlier or napped. That’s not why.

Lol you are ignorant AF about human physiology at that age and the fact that I played sports year round and took AP courses. I literally could not go to bed any earlier. And I also had anxiety around bedtime thinking yo myself “I have to be awake in 7 hours, I have to be awake in 6.5 hours… I’m going to be so tired.”

And, how would later start times fix that. So, you get home from sports, homework - so you get home an hour later, you end up going to bed an hour later and waking up an hour later. You still will not get enough sleep but it was your choice to do sports and AP.

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Anonymous wrote:Also the problem is kids have too much screen time which makes it hard to go to sleep. If they need to do sone homework on a computer make sure they do that before dinner. When they don’t start homework until late it will mess with melatonin. Be the parent and limit screen time before bed and it will work wonders.

Maybe your kids buy when do they have time. Mine have activities, tutoring and homework. That’s a parenting issue.

Sounds like your parenting issue is overscheduling your kids.....

Having my kids involved with sports and music to enrich their lives, which is also their choice, is not over scheduling. Utilizing the free tutoring MCPS is providing as a support is not over-scheduling. And, yet, my kids are just fine with the school schedule and don't need extra sleep like yours do. Maybe if your kids were involved in more activities they'd be tired and could go to bed and it would keep them off social media/electronics.

Huh? I'm the first PP- I never said my kids were spending too much time on social media/screens. But there is plenty of evidence that screentime before bed makes it harder to sleep and I notice that myself anecdotally if I'm on the computer or watching TV right before bed. It's more of a reminder that if your kids are having trouble falling asleep, shift the screen activities earlier and see if that makes a difference. Which I know, is hard with all the homework being on a Chromebook. If this isn't a problem with your kids, move on. If your kids are already in high school, there is zero chance MCPS will disrupt your ideal schedule so don't worry.

Clearly it’s an issue in your home as you are commenting. Screen time is not the issue.

JFC lady I’m trying to help people who say their kids can’t fall asleep at night. No one ever complained about kids not being able to fall asleep at night in the 80s, I wonder why…..

Of course kids had trouble falling asleep at night. In the 80's there were plenty of other ways to stay up late from phones, video games, magazines, books, etc...