MCPS High School 7:45am for teens is to early

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Anonymous wrote:So many parents fail to enforce reasonable bedtimes long before than the teen years and then it’s too late once they actually have to be up early for something.

You can enforce bedtimes, you can’t enforce falling asleep.

Some of you are very invested in maintaining the status quo, almost like you’re worried or something. Strange.

I'm not an MCPS parent, but I'm in another school that has raised the same question.

I feel like my time with my high schooler is so limited. My work hours aren't flexible at all, and so the idea that he'd get home 2 hours later, and have 2 hours less family time, 2 hours less time for me to help with HW before I need to go to sleep, things I think he needs, does worry me. Since he's already sleeping the hours he needs, usually about 9:30 to 6:30, I assume he'd be trading those 2 hours unsupervised in the morning, or 2 hours after the rest of the family is asleep. That doesn't seem healthy at all.

I'm also not an MCPS parent, but your concerns work both ways. My son left for the bus at 6:30 a.m. and got home at 2:00 p.m. I would much rather have had breakfast with him and hung out in the morning than have him home alone for three hours each afternoon. The early dismissal provided no additional family time for working parents. I think that MCPSS has activity buses, but if a high school does not have activity buses, it meant leaving work at 2:30 p.m. to pick up or arranging for rides for activities. A later start time better aligns with work hours and makes picking up easier.

Get up, have breakfast with him and drive him.

We have to arrange our schedules to dive our kid to an activity after school.

Why are you so invested in the status quo? I've had it both ways with my kids, and a later start is so much better..

Our schedules including after school activities are all arranged on it.

You could change your schedules, though. If MCPS could do it, you could do it also.

How would we change our outside activities - we don't choose the times. We are told what time the groups meet and we either agree or we cannot do it.

If school scheduled change, outside activity schedules will change, too.

So, that would have our kids staying up even later, which makes no sense. But, we are responsible parents who enforce bed times.

Who cares if everyone else is inconvenience! My kid likes to stay up late watching tiktok and the early start times are a problem for them.

Yeah, and adolescent circadian rhythms be damned!

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Anonymous wrote:So many parents fail to enforce reasonable bedtimes long before than the teen years and then it’s too late once they actually have to be up early for something.

You can enforce bedtimes, you can’t enforce falling asleep.

Some of you are very invested in maintaining the status quo, almost like you’re worried or something. Strange.

I'm not an MCPS parent, but I'm in another school that has raised the same question.

I feel like my time with my high schooler is so limited. My work hours aren't flexible at all, and so the idea that he'd get home 2 hours later, and have 2 hours less family time, 2 hours less time for me to help with HW before I need to go to sleep, things I think he needs, does worry me. Since he's already sleeping the hours he needs, usually about 9:30 to 6:30, I assume he'd be trading those 2 hours unsupervised in the morning, or 2 hours after the rest of the family is asleep. That doesn't seem healthy at all.

I'm also not an MCPS parent, but your concerns work both ways. My son left for the bus at 6:30 a.m. and got home at 2:00 p.m. I would much rather have had breakfast with him and hung out in the morning than have him home alone for three hours each afternoon. The early dismissal provided no additional family time for working parents. I think that MCPSS has activity buses, but if a high school does not have activity buses, it meant leaving work at 2:30 p.m. to pick up or arranging for rides for activities. A later start time better aligns with work hours and makes picking up easier.

Get up, have breakfast with him and drive him.

We have to arrange our schedules to dive our kid to an activity after school.

Why are you so invested in the status quo? I've had it both ways with my kids, and a later start is so much better..

Our schedules including after school activities are all arranged on it.

You could change your schedules, though. If MCPS could do it, you could do it also.

NO. You people need to stop. This is the way it has been and will be unless MCPS caves to your fringe interests. Thankfully they don’t seem interested and we only have 3 years left. Stop trying to ruin my kids’ high school experience because you can’t be a parent and put your kids to bed at a decent hour.

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Anonymous wrote:So many parents fail to enforce reasonable bedtimes long before than the teen years and then it’s too late once they actually have to be up early for something.

You can enforce bedtimes, you can’t enforce falling asleep.

Some of you are very invested in maintaining the status quo, almost like you’re worried or something. Strange.

I'm not an MCPS parent, but I'm in another school that has raised the same question.

I feel like my time with my high schooler is so limited. My work hours aren't flexible at all, and so the idea that he'd get home 2 hours later, and have 2 hours less family time, 2 hours less time for me to help with HW before I need to go to sleep, things I think he needs, does worry me. Since he's already sleeping the hours he needs, usually about 9:30 to 6:30, I assume he'd be trading those 2 hours unsupervised in the morning, or 2 hours after the rest of the family is asleep. That doesn't seem healthy at all.

I'm also not an MCPS parent, but your concerns work both ways. My son left for the bus at 6:30 a.m. and got home at 2:00 p.m. I would much rather have had breakfast with him and hung out in the morning than have him home alone for three hours each afternoon. The early dismissal provided no additional family time for working parents. I think that MCPSS has activity buses, but if a high school does not have activity buses, it meant leaving work at 2:30 p.m. to pick up or arranging for rides for activities. A later start time better aligns with work hours and makes picking up easier.

Get up, have breakfast with him and drive him.

We have to arrange our schedules to dive our kid to an activity after school.

Why are you so invested in the status quo? I've had it both ways with my kids, and a later start is so much better..

Our schedules including after school activities are all arranged on it.

You could change your schedules, though. If MCPS could do it, you could do it also.

NO. You people need to stop. This is the way it has been and will be unless MCPS caves to your fringe interests. Thankfully they don’t seem interested and we only have 3 years left. Stop trying to ruin my kids’ high school experience because you can’t be a parent and put your kids to bed at a decent hour.

The way you refuse to evolve is just...really embarrassing...have fun being stuck in the past while the rest of us move into the future (and catch up with the rest of the country/world bc MCPS is super behind in terms of the start/dismissal)

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you who are skeptical about teenagers needing more sleep and their changing circadian rhythms should ask your children’s doctor or any teen psychologist that you know. See what they say about later high school start times and whether MCPS is behind the curve on this issue

I know they almost need as much sleep as younger children, but that's why I make my teens go to bed early. It's not that hard if you take the phones away.

Lol...kids have been going late forever? Phones are fairly new; they will figure out other things to do other than sleep. Either your kids are severely lacking imagination or you are simply clueless.

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Anonymous wrote:So many parents fail to enforce reasonable bedtimes long before than the teen years and then it’s too late once they actually have to be up early for something.

You can enforce bedtimes, you can’t enforce falling asleep.

Some of you are very invested in maintaining the status quo, almost like you’re worried or something. Strange.

I'm not an MCPS parent, but I'm in another school that has raised the same question.

I feel like my time with my high schooler is so limited. My work hours aren't flexible at all, and so the idea that he'd get home 2 hours later, and have 2 hours less family time, 2 hours less time for me to help with HW before I need to go to sleep, things I think he needs, does worry me. Since he's already sleeping the hours he needs, usually about 9:30 to 6:30, I assume he'd be trading those 2 hours unsupervised in the morning, or 2 hours after the rest of the family is asleep. That doesn't seem healthy at all.

I'm also not an MCPS parent, but your concerns work both ways. My son left for the bus at 6:30 a.m. and got home at 2:00 p.m. I would much rather have had breakfast with him and hung out in the morning than have him home alone for three hours each afternoon. The early dismissal provided no additional family time for working parents. I think that MCPSS has activity buses, but if a high school does not have activity buses, it meant leaving work at 2:30 p.m. to pick up or arranging for rides for activities. A later start time better aligns with work hours and makes picking up easier.

Get up, have breakfast with him and drive him.

We have to arrange our schedules to dive our kid to an activity after school.

Why are you so invested in the status quo? I've had it both ways with my kids, and a later start is so much better..

Our schedules including after school activities are all arranged on it.

You could change your schedules, though. If MCPS could do it, you could do it also.

How would we change our outside activities - we don't choose the times. We are told what time the groups meet and we either agree or we cannot do it.

If school scheduled change, outside activity schedules will change, too.

So, that would have our kids staying up even later, which makes no sense. But, we are responsible parents who enforce bed times.

Who cares if everyone else is inconvenience! My kid likes to stay up late watching tiktok and the early start times are a problem for them.

Yeah, and adolescent circadian rhythms be damned!

Yes, and the power of astrological science too!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you who are skeptical about teenagers needing more sleep and their changing circadian rhythms should ask your children’s doctor or any teen psychologist that you know. See what they say about later high school start times and whether MCPS is behind the curve on this issue

I know they almost need as much sleep as younger children, but that's why I make my teens go to bed early. It's not that hard if you take the phones away.

Amen sister. No screens at all after 9pm in our house. If they need to finish their homework maybe but next time they need to budget time earlier in the day. Or get up earlier in the morning to finish.

I did this at the advice of our pediatrician, FWIW.

We do the exact same thing. It seems like some people are simply against parenting their children.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you who are skeptical about teenagers needing more sleep and their changing circadian rhythms should ask your children’s doctor or any teen psychologist that you know. See what they say about later high school start times and whether MCPS is behind the curve on this issue

I know they almost need as much sleep as younger children, but that's why I make my teens go to bed early. It's not that hard if you take the phones away.

Amen sister. No screens at all after 9pm in our house. If they need to finish their homework maybe but next time they need to budget time earlier in the day. Or get up earlier in the morning to finish.

I did this at the advice of our pediatrician, FWIW.

We do the exact same thing. It seems like some people are simply against parenting their children.

You actually just sound incredibly privileged, entitled, and childish. So many parents work nights and aren’t there to ensure their kids don’t use screens. Also, as someone else pointed out, they can occupy themselves with things other than phones (but apparently your kids aren’t creative enough and just go to bed when they have no screen time, so I’d look in the mirror before coming for other parents)

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Anonymous wrote:So many parents fail to enforce reasonable bedtimes long before than the teen years and then it’s too late once they actually have to be up early for something.

You can enforce bedtimes, you can’t enforce falling asleep.

Some of you are very invested in maintaining the status quo, almost like you’re worried or something. Strange.

I'm not an MCPS parent, but I'm in another school that has raised the same question.

I feel like my time with my high schooler is so limited. My work hours aren't flexible at all, and so the idea that he'd get home 2 hours later, and have 2 hours less family time, 2 hours less time for me to help with HW before I need to go to sleep, things I think he needs, does worry me. Since he's already sleeping the hours he needs, usually about 9:30 to 6:30, I assume he'd be trading those 2 hours unsupervised in the morning, or 2 hours after the rest of the family is asleep. That doesn't seem healthy at all.

I'm also not an MCPS parent, but your concerns work both ways. My son left for the bus at 6:30 a.m. and got home at 2:00 p.m. I would much rather have had breakfast with him and hung out in the morning than have him home alone for three hours each afternoon. The early dismissal provided no additional family time for working parents. I think that MCPSS has activity buses, but if a high school does not have activity buses, it meant leaving work at 2:30 p.m. to pick up or arranging for rides for activities. A later start time better aligns with work hours and makes picking up easier.

Get up, have breakfast with him and drive him.

We have to arrange our schedules to dive our kid to an activity after school.

Why are you so invested in the status quo? I've had it both ways with my kids, and a later start is so much better..

Our schedules including after school activities are all arranged on it.

You could change your schedules, though. If MCPS could do it, you could do it also.

How would we change our outside activities - we don't choose the times. We are told what time the groups meet and we either agree or we cannot do it.

If school scheduled change, outside activity schedules will change, too.

So, that would have our kids staying up even later, which makes no sense. But, we are responsible parents who enforce bed times.

Who cares if everyone else is inconvenience! My kid likes to stay up late watching tiktok and the early start times are a problem for them.

Yeah, and adolescent circadian rhythms be damned!

Yes, and the power of astrological science too!

When you can cite pubmed "astrological science", please do!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So many parents fail to enforce reasonable bedtimes long before than the teen years and then it’s too late once they actually have to be up early for something.

You can enforce bedtimes, you can’t enforce falling asleep.

Some of you are very invested in maintaining the status quo, almost like you’re worried or something. Strange.

I'm not an MCPS parent, but I'm in another school that has raised the same question.

I feel like my time with my high schooler is so limited. My work hours aren't flexible at all, and so the idea that he'd get home 2 hours later, and have 2 hours less family time, 2 hours less time for me to help with HW before I need to go to sleep, things I think he needs, does worry me. Since he's already sleeping the hours he needs, usually about 9:30 to 6:30, I assume he'd be trading those 2 hours unsupervised in the morning, or 2 hours after the rest of the family is asleep. That doesn't seem healthy at all.

I'm also not an MCPS parent, but your concerns work both ways. My son left for the bus at 6:30 a.m. and got home at 2:00 p.m. I would much rather have had breakfast with him and hung out in the morning than have him home alone for three hours each afternoon. The early dismissal provided no additional family time for working parents. I think that MCPSS has activity buses, but if a high school does not have activity buses, it meant leaving work at 2:30 p.m. to pick up or arranging for rides for activities. A later start time better aligns with work hours and makes picking up easier.

Get up, have breakfast with him and drive him.

We have to arrange our schedules to dive our kid to an activity after school.

Why are you so invested in the status quo? I've had it both ways with my kids, and a later start is so much better..

Our schedules including after school activities are all arranged on it.

You could change your schedules, though. If MCPS could do it, you could do it also.

How would we change our outside activities - we don't choose the times. We are told what time the groups meet and we either agree or we cannot do it.

If school scheduled change, outside activity schedules will change, too.

So, that would have our kids staying up even later, which makes no sense. But, we are responsible parents who enforce bed times.

If you overschedule your kids, that's on you

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Anonymous wrote:So many parents fail to enforce reasonable bedtimes long before than the teen years and then it’s too late once they actually have to be up early for something.

You can enforce bedtimes, you can’t enforce falling asleep.

Some of you are very invested in maintaining the status quo, almost like you’re worried or something. Strange.

I'm not an MCPS parent, but I'm in another school that has raised the same question.

I feel like my time with my high schooler is so limited. My work hours aren't flexible at all, and so the idea that he'd get home 2 hours later, and have 2 hours less family time, 2 hours less time for me to help with HW before I need to go to sleep, things I think he needs, does worry me. Since he's already sleeping the hours he needs, usually about 9:30 to 6:30, I assume he'd be trading those 2 hours unsupervised in the morning, or 2 hours after the rest of the family is asleep. That doesn't seem healthy at all.

I'm also not an MCPS parent, but your concerns work both ways. My son left for the bus at 6:30 a.m. and got home at 2:00 p.m. I would much rather have had breakfast with him and hung out in the morning than have him home alone for three hours each afternoon. The early dismissal provided no additional family time for working parents. I think that MCPSS has activity buses, but if a high school does not have activity buses, it meant leaving work at 2:30 p.m. to pick up or arranging for rides for activities. A later start time better aligns with work hours and makes picking up easier.

Get up, have breakfast with him and drive him.

We have to arrange our schedules to dive our kid to an activity after school.

Why are you so invested in the status quo? I've had it both ways with my kids, and a later start is so much better..

Our schedules including after school activities are all arranged on it.

You could change your schedules, though. If MCPS could do it, you could do it also.

How would we change our outside activities - we don't choose the times. We are told what time the groups meet and we either agree or we cannot do it.

If school scheduled change, outside activity schedules will change, too.

So, that would have our kids staying up even later, which makes no sense. But, we are responsible parents who enforce bed times.

If you overschedule your kids, that's on you

Those complaints aren't parents of kids in activities. They are the parents whose kids aren't in activities who allow them to stay up/hang out. My kids have to get up early either way. I'd rather keep my kids scheduled and learning skills vs. being online or hanging out getting into trouble. Funny how we manage it all just fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you who are skeptical about teenagers needing more sleep and their changing circadian rhythms should ask your children’s doctor or any teen psychologist that you know. See what they say about later high school start times and whether MCPS is behind the curve on this issue

I know they almost need as much sleep as younger children, but that's why I make my teens go to bed early. It's not that hard if you take the phones away.

Amen sister. No screens at all after 9pm in our house. If they need to finish their homework maybe but next time they need to budget time earlier in the day. Or get up earlier in the morning to finish.

I did this at the advice of our pediatrician, FWIW.

We do the exact same thing. It seems like some people are simply against parenting their children.

You actually just sound incredibly privileged, entitled, and childish. So many parents work nights and aren’t there to ensure their kids don’t use screens. Also, as someone else pointed out, they can occupy themselves with things other than phones (but apparently your kids aren’t creative enough and just go to bed when they have no screen time, so I’d look in the mirror before coming for other parents)

How many parents just work nights where the kids are home alone? You can make all kinds of excuses. It doesn't matter why the kids stay up. Its up to the parents to tell them to go to bed and enforce.

[Anonymous]

So glad MCPS will pay 0 attention to this nonsense. Sure, it would be nice if schools started an hour or two later. However, there are other factors, and they've made the best possible decision given those considerations. In the end, you can't make everyone happy.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you who are skeptical about teenagers needing more sleep and their changing circadian rhythms should ask your children’s doctor or any teen psychologist that you know. See what they say about later high school start times and whether MCPS is behind the curve on this issue

I know they almost need as much sleep as younger children, but that's why I make my teens go to bed early. It's not that hard if you take the phones away.

Amen sister. No screens at all after 9pm in our house. If they need to finish their homework maybe but next time they need to budget time earlier in the day. Or get up earlier in the morning to finish.

I did this at the advice of our pediatrician, FWIW.

We do the exact same thing. It seems like some people are simply against parenting their children.

You actually just sound incredibly privileged, entitled, and childish. So many parents work nights and aren’t there to ensure their kids don’t use screens. Also, as someone else pointed out, they can occupy themselves with things other than phones (but apparently your kids aren’t creative enough and just go to bed when they have no screen time, so I’d look in the mirror before coming for other parents)

If you take away screens, kids will find another way to amuse themselves. Stop blaming screens. Be a parent.

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Anonymous wrote:So many parents fail to enforce reasonable bedtimes long before than the teen years and then it’s too late once they actually have to be up early for something.

You can enforce bedtimes, you can’t enforce falling asleep.

Some of you are very invested in maintaining the status quo, almost like you’re worried or something. Strange.

I'm not an MCPS parent, but I'm in another school that has raised the same question.

I feel like my time with my high schooler is so limited. My work hours aren't flexible at all, and so the idea that he'd get home 2 hours later, and have 2 hours less family time, 2 hours less time for me to help with HW before I need to go to sleep, things I think he needs, does worry me. Since he's already sleeping the hours he needs, usually about 9:30 to 6:30, I assume he'd be trading those 2 hours unsupervised in the morning, or 2 hours after the rest of the family is asleep. That doesn't seem healthy at all.

I'm also not an MCPS parent, but your concerns work both ways. My son left for the bus at 6:30 a.m. and got home at 2:00 p.m. I would much rather have had breakfast with him and hung out in the morning than have him home alone for three hours each afternoon. The early dismissal provided no additional family time for working parents. I think that MCPSS has activity buses, but if a high school does not have activity buses, it meant leaving work at 2:30 p.m. to pick up or arranging for rides for activities. A later start time better aligns with work hours and makes picking up easier.

Get up, have breakfast with him and drive him.

We have to arrange our schedules to dive our kid to an activity after school.

Why are you so invested in the status quo? I've had it both ways with my kids, and a later start is so much better..

Our schedules including after school activities are all arranged on it.

You could change your schedules, though. If MCPS could do it, you could do it also.

How would we change our outside activities - we don't choose the times. We are told what time the groups meet and we either agree or we cannot do it.

If school scheduled change, outside activity schedules will change, too.

So, that would have our kids staying up even later, which makes no sense. But, we are responsible parents who enforce bed times.

If you overschedule your kids, that's on you

Those complaints aren't parents of kids in activities. They are the parents whose kids aren't in activities who allow them to stay up/hang out. My kids have to get up early either way. I'd rather keep my kids scheduled and learning skills vs. being online or hanging out getting into trouble. Funny how we manage it all just fine.

Activities are fine, but there is no way that it's healthy for kids to be overscheduled or as busy as they are.

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My Hs started at 7:15am advisory. Done by 2:50pm or so.

Guess I survived and thrived somehow.