MCPS High School 7:45am for teens is to early

Anonymous
DC parent here. Curious how this is for your teens. We are unhappy parents at a DC public school considering moving. The start time for DCPS High Schools is 9am which is one of the only things they do that is smart. How are your kids' sleep habits with such an early start. Most research points to the reverse schedule for (older kids need to start later) and curious why MCPS is set up like this. Not sure if this issue has come up before or if they are considering changing it?

MCPS Level Time Length of Day
High School 7:45 a.m.–2:30 p.m. 6 hours, 45 minutes
Middle School 8:15 a.m.–3:00 p.m. 6 hours, 45 minutes
Elementary School Tier 1 9:00 a.m.–3:25 p.m. 6 hours, 25 minutes
Elementary School Tier 2 9:25 a.m.–3:50 p.m. 6 hours, 25 minutes
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:DC parent here. Curious how this is for your teens. We are unhappy parents at a DC public school considering moving. The start time for DCPS High Schools is 9am which is one of the only things they do that is smart. How are your kids' sleep habits with such an early start. Most research points to the reverse schedule for (older kids need to start later) and curious why MCPS is set up like this. Not sure if this issue has come up before or if they are considering changing it?

MCPS Level Time Length of Day
High School 7:45 a.m.–2:30 p.m. 6 hours, 45 minutes
Middle School 8:15 a.m.–3:00 p.m. 6 hours, 45 minutes
Elementary School Tier 1 9:00 a.m.–3:25 p.m. 6 hours, 25 minutes
Elementary School Tier 2 9:25 a.m.–3:50 p.m. 6 hours, 25 minutes

There are threads here discussing this very topic, as recently as a few months ago.
Anonymous
It’s fine. They adjust.
Anonymous
This start time is pretty typical everywhere. DC is the anomaly, and I love it for my kids.
Anonymous
It is because so many of us have to commute into DC after making sure the kids are at school
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It is because so many of us have to commute into DC after making sure the kids are at school


Yeah, "parental convenience" is not it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:DC parent here. Curious how this is for your teens. We are unhappy parents at a DC public school considering moving. The start time for DCPS High Schools is 9am which is one of the only things they do that is smart. How are your kids' sleep habits with such an early start. Most research points to the reverse schedule for (older kids need to start later) and curious why MCPS is set up like this. Not sure if this issue has come up before or if they are considering changing it?

MCPS Level Time Length of Day
High School 7:45 a.m.–2:30 p.m. 6 hours, 45 minutes
Middle School 8:15 a.m.–3:00 p.m. 6 hours, 45 minutes
Elementary School Tier 1 9:00 a.m.–3:25 p.m. 6 hours, 25 minutes
Elementary School Tier 2 9:25 a.m.–3:50 p.m. 6 hours, 25 minutes


It has been discussed at length. Many parents want the older kids home first to babysit. Kids who need jobs in HS need the afterschool time to work. This beats out the research.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It’s fine. They adjust.


No the don’t. Their circadian clock doesn’t adjust.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s fine. They adjust.


No the don’t. Their circadian clock doesn’t adjust.


Its funny how the need to be at a job just a few years later makes it ok.
Anonymous
MCPS looked into this several years back and ended up adjusting times by 20 minutes. (HS used to start at 7:25 am!)

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/belltimes/index.aspx
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s fine. They adjust.


No the don’t. Their circadian clock doesn’t adjust.


Maybe they should put the cell phones away at night.
Anonymous
This has been brought up for decades and the outcome is always that switching times will not work. I wrote an editorial about it for my high school newspaper in 1996. It's not a novel idea and nothing will ever be done about it. Enjoy the extra 20 minutes, which is a later start than we had.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s fine. They adjust.


No the don’t. Their circadian clock doesn’t adjust.


Its funny how the need to be at a job just a few years later makes it ok.


The topic is high school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s fine. They adjust.


No the don’t. Their circadian clock doesn’t adjust.
this is American BS. Teenage Humans around the world manage to get up early to go to school, work etc…. They go to bed earlier. Common denominator in the US is social media/screens and teens.
Anonymous
It's not good for kids. You can't argue that it is. Younger kids can stay in aftercare. Show me one study that says it's ok. It's par for the course. These same hs kids are now phone zombies. I rarely see one walking down the street without their faces on their phones. It's a brand new world of ick for kids.
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