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I can’t believe the ghostwriter and those editing the book let the piece about him killing 25 Taliban soldiers (described as moving chess pieces off the board) stay in the book. Isn’t that going to make his family more of a target than it would be from random, crazy stalkers? Hearing that boggled my mind. And I don’t love or hate any of the parties in this whole scenario. You’d hope for reconciliation, but it’s probably too late.

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Anonymous wrote:The account of the altercation, frankly, paints Harry in a light that's too precious to sympathize with. I mean William's not much better but at least his vices are easy to understand.

But Harry? The broken necklace? the broken dog bowl? (what's it made of, crystal? what type of dog bowl breaks when a man falls on top of it?) The shards cutting his delicate skin? The therapist on speed dial?

It's all a bit much.

It’s insane. It doesn’t hold water with how fights happen.

William is a bully. That much is clear.

So was this knock-down-drag-out fight the fight about Meghan bullying the staff and Harry not wanting to hear about it? That fight?

Bullying the staff is just a talking point. It's amazing the people don't see the pattern in how women who marry into the monarchy -as well as others who are not as compliant, even in the family- are treated. Diana. Fergie. Meghan. And then accused of being "crazy", "needy", "psycho", "bullying." GMAFB. I don't believe it for one minute.

I do believe that the British Tabloids and SM were cruel, racist, and hateful towards Meghan (the stories and headlines, and tweets, speak for themselves). I also 100% believe that William and Charles comms teams fed them negative stories, fueled them, and then didn't support H and M. Once again, one need only look at the history of this family (and the monarchy generally) to know with certainty that this happened.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t believe the ghostwriter and those editing the book let the piece about him killing 25 Taliban soldiers (described as moving chess pieces off the board) stay in the book. Isn’t that going to make his family more of a target than it would be from random, crazy stalkers? Hearing that boggled my mind. And I don’t love or hate any of the parties in this whole scenario. You’d hope for reconciliation, but it’s probably too late.

You think soldiers just sit around playing cards overseas? War isn't pretty. I don't think people were under any illusions that Harry was sitting around doing nothing in Afghanistan. It also helps show that he has that burden of having taken lives-he wasn't just posing for pictures in his uniform.

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Anonymous wrote:I had wondered about the big picture of H (and M) trashing his family and the long term prospect of the BRF. Here's an article that touches on that:

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3784176-the-trouble-with-harry-and-meghan/

Assigning them responsibility for UK national security is a bit much, don't you think? They're well on their way to becoming C-list celebrities. Who really cares abut any of this drivel, beyond the mild entertainment offered by salacious petty gossip.

+1 In fact Britain might be more secure as a true democracy, rather than bowing and curtsying to a bunch of mediocre inbred German descendants.

+2 Referring to Charles's figurehead-only-role as military head is ridiculous.

Which is more ridiculous, having Trump as Commander-in-Chief or Biden?

Neither. Y'all are being ridiculous. We have a head of state. The UK has a head of state. These are important, respected roles.

You don't seem the grasp the fundamental difference between the two. The British monarch doesn't make any military decisions; that role has been officially remanded to the Prime Minister and Defence Office. He is kept informed but has no real authority beyond approving military appointments at a certain rank.

+1 The King has his role due to the accident of his birth. While is fundamentally unmeritocratic and undemocratic in this new millennia. Kind of backwards if you will.

Having continuity rather than a new head of state every 4 or 8 years is not a worse way of doing things. Stability in these unstable times is important.

I will take less stability any day rather than a system where I'm required to bow to someone simply because of who his mother was. Particularly when they're not the most stellar of people (I'm not a fan of King Charles, his mother seemed good.)

Interestingly, the criticism of Charles that I've heard from Brits is that he's too outspoken, too political, unlike Elizabeth

It's not easy to separate the personal from the professional, but I do see some good things about Charles' intentions re: the monarchy. For example, efforts to modernize and streamline, therefore reducing the burden on British taxpayers. The streamlining piece would have hurt the Sussexes though.

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I think Harry is standing up for Meghan in a way that no one stood up for Diana. The BRF are ridiculous. Harry’s never going to be King. Let them do it their way. I think Will and Charles look like giant jerks.

I preordered my copy today!

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11602551/Prince-Harrys-book-William-pointed-finger-Meghan-called-rude.html
I hope Spare is clearer than this DailyMail article. Meghan makes a comment about hormones that sets Kate off at the bridal salon, but then somehow (at a different point in time?) William shows up and waves a finger in her face and that makes Meghan cry?

The way I read this is that there was a confrontation after the bridal salon exchange.

Man if someone I barely knew told me I had "baby brain" I would be LIVID. Is anyone else seeing this as William defending his wife?

Yeah, but I thought there was crying during the bridal salon exchange, so I guess I'm just not understanding the sequence. Anyway, I can see how some people would get pissed at that kind of offhand remark being made, especially Kate with her tough pregnancies. But many many many others would just laugh it off.

yeah. i joke about mommy brain and baby brain with my friends (who are also mothers). it's definitely not up there with the worst things you could say to an in-law.

Not the worst thing. But it can be used as an insult. And getting a finger wag in response seems appropriate.

Not a great relationship among in-laws. But not the worst. Or at least not then - now it is. SMH

How could the money and revenge possibly have been worth the end of your relationship with your only brother? I don't care how much you resented being "the spare," it is simply not worth it.

What did Harry actually want of William? To change their birth order? In every aspect of life (like it or not), there is a hierarchy.

I think he wanted his family/the institution to protect him in the same way William was protected. It's an understandable desire, if not realistic.

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He literally says in the 60 minutes clip “I want a family, not an institution.”

What do people not get about this?? Makes perfect sense. It’s never a good idea to so clearly treat one sibling better than the other. And don’t give me any Bs about this being the royal family. It doesn’t matter, they don’t “have” to do things that way.

Only one person can inherit. That's a fact of life. Life that has dealt Harry rather a good hand. Older brother is being raised to lead, younger to support him.

He could have had his family if he played by the rules.

This book virtually guarantees he'd never be welcome back.

Harry didn’t want to inherit. He just didn’t want the family to leak negative stories about his wife to the press in order to shield themselves from other stories (like keeping Andrew around). William clearly did this through Jason Knauf. Knauf admitted it in a deposition.

I enjoyed the documentary, and I am there for the book. In the doc Harry mentioned that he and William watched their parents' generation press offices trading tidbits about other royals to protect their own royal from bad press. He says that he and William saw how destructive this was for the family, and swore, they would never do it to each other. Fast forward. They have separate press offices, and this bartering of stories is still going on. I do understand why he is hurt. It is too bad that he and Meghan didn't take moving into working royal roles much slower. They could have focused on having kids, maybe doing more minor events around the UK so Meghan could adjust to life in the UK and as a Royal, and as a mother. I don't think that was HER vision, but, I do think it would have been better for her to have eased into the role.

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Anonymous wrote:The account of the altercation, frankly, paints Harry in a light that's too precious to sympathize with. I mean William's not much better but at least his vices are easy to understand.

But Harry? The broken necklace? the broken dog bowl? (what's it made of, crystal? what type of dog bowl breaks when a man falls on top of it?) The shards cutting his delicate skin? The therapist on speed dial?

It's all a bit much.

It’s insane. It doesn’t hold water with how fights happen.

William is a bully. That much is clear.

So was this knock-down-drag-out fight the fight about Meghan bullying the staff and Harry not wanting to hear about it? That fight?

Bullying the staff is just a talking point. It's amazing the people don't see the pattern in how women who marry into the monarchy -as well as others who are not as compliant, even in the family- are treated. Diana. Fergie. Meghan. And then accused of being "crazy", "needy", "psycho", "bullying." GMAFB. I don't believe it for one minute.

I do believe that the British Tabloids and SM were cruel, racist, and hateful towards Meghan (the stories and headlines, and tweets, speak for themselves). I also 100% believe that William and Charles comms teams fed them negative stories, fueled them, and then didn't support H and M. Once again, one need only look at the history of this family (and the monarchy generally) to know with certainty that this happened.

I believe much of what you posted - but I also believe that the BRF is pretty sensitive to how staff are treated, since there's a huge class/power imbalance. And it's something that they are brought up and taught, to an extent, that Meghan would have a lot of difficulty with, whether she was easy or difficult or just American.

If Harry wasn't willing to hear a word against her, how would she know how to change or moderate her behavior to fit in better and treat staff appropriately?

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IN an emotional excerpt from Prince Harry's upcoming memoir, Spare, the royal reveals the devastating moment he learnt of Princess Diana's death and claims King Charles "did not hug" him.

In the book, Harry writes he and Prince William were in their room wearing PJs when the then Prince Charles bid them goodnight, telling them to "be good" and not stay up too late.

The pair of young royals proceeded to sneak out, meeting with the Queen's piper, who let them try to play his bagpipes.

Later that evening, Charles sat on the end of Harry's bed and told him "my dear son, mum has had a car accident."

Prince Harry claims his father did not hug him when delivering the life-changing news and that he later "felt like a politician" as he met with mourning Brits.

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Anonymous wrote:The account of the altercation, frankly, paints Harry in a light that's too precious to sympathize with. I mean William's not much better but at least his vices are easy to understand.

But Harry? The broken necklace? the broken dog bowl? (what's it made of, crystal? what type of dog bowl breaks when a man falls on top of it?) The shards cutting his delicate skin? The therapist on speed dial?

It's all a bit much.

It’s insane. It doesn’t hold water with how fights happen.

William is a bully. That much is clear.

So was this knock-down-drag-out fight the fight about Meghan bullying the staff and Harry not wanting to hear about it? That fight?

William has been covering for Harry for a long time. I loved the net flix series (made them look relatable and so in love and happy) but this book is awful. He looks so petty. How many of us with siblings have had some kind of crazy argument. I think the issue is his sounding board is an only child and she doesn’t get the rivalry and arguing that happens as you grow up. These arguments with William (if they happened are not that bad).They have legit things to complain about with the crazy press system that the monarchy operates but dumb family fights and the overall bitterness is not going to help them. If I were William, I would be done. He should have left if unhappy and carried on and done charity work that made him happy without this current course of burning bridges. I can say that even when I really mad at a sibling that I do not run them down to anyone. He is basically bashing his family to billions of people and then also saying he wants them in his life. It is perplexing but his family does not have to engage.

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Anonymous wrote:The account of the altercation, frankly, paints Harry in a light that's too precious to sympathize with. I mean William's not much better but at least his vices are easy to understand.

But Harry? The broken necklace? the broken dog bowl? (what's it made of, crystal? what type of dog bowl breaks when a man falls on top of it?) The shards cutting his delicate skin? The therapist on speed dial?

It's all a bit much.

It’s insane. It doesn’t hold water with how fights happen.

William is a bully. That much is clear.

So was this knock-down-drag-out fight the fight about Meghan bullying the staff and Harry not wanting to hear about it? That fight?

Bullying the staff is just a talking point. It's amazing the people don't see the pattern in how women who marry into the monarchy -as well as others who are not as compliant, even in the family- are treated. Diana. Fergie. Meghan. And then accused of being "crazy", "needy", "psycho", "bullying." GMAFB. I don't believe it for one minute.

I do believe that the British Tabloids and SM were cruel, racist, and hateful towards Meghan (the stories and headlines, and tweets, speak for themselves). I also 100% believe that William and Charles comms teams fed them negative stories, fueled them, and then didn't support H and M. Once again, one need only look at the history of this family (and the monarchy generally) to know with certainty that this happened.

Meghan was literally suicidal and fled the country during a fit of panic. She acts clingy and needy in public, maybe that's just an act though. I understand PPD and PPA from experience; I don't just waive it away or pretend she didn't have it.

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Just like Meghan cut off her family for trying to use their connection to her to make money, royal family should do the same. What's good for the goose, is good for the gander.

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Anonymous wrote:IN an emotional excerpt from Prince Harry's upcoming memoir, Spare, the royal reveals the devastating moment he learnt of Princess Diana's death and claims King Charles "did not hug" him.

In the book, Harry writes he and Prince William were in their room wearing PJs when the then Prince Charles bid them goodnight, telling them to "be good" and not stay up too late.

The pair of young royals proceeded to sneak out, meeting with the Queen's piper, who let them try to play his bagpipes.

Later that evening, Charles sat on the end of Harry's bed and told him "my dear son, mum has had a car accident."

Prince Harry claims his father did not hug him when delivering the life-changing news and that he later "felt like a politician" as he met with mourning Brits.

Ok, so he didn't hug him--pretty sure Charles did not receive much in the way of hugs growing up. It does sound like he conveyed the news as kindly as possible. jfc.

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Anonymous wrote:The account of the altercation, frankly, paints Harry in a light that's too precious to sympathize with. I mean William's not much better but at least his vices are easy to understand.

But Harry? The broken necklace? the broken dog bowl? (what's it made of, crystal? what type of dog bowl breaks when a man falls on top of it?) The shards cutting his delicate skin? The therapist on speed dial?

It's all a bit much.

It’s insane. It doesn’t hold water with how fights happen.

William is a bully. That much is clear.

So was this knock-down-drag-out fight the fight about Meghan bullying the staff and Harry not wanting to hear about it? That fight?

Bullying the staff is just a talking point. It's amazing the people don't see the pattern in how women who marry into the monarchy -as well as others who are not as compliant, even in the family- are treated. Diana. Fergie. Meghan. And then accused of being "crazy", "needy", "psycho", "bullying." GMAFB. I don't believe it for one minute.

I do believe that the British Tabloids and SM were cruel, racist, and hateful towards Meghan (the stories and headlines, and tweets, speak for themselves). I also 100% believe that William and Charles comms teams fed them negative stories, fueled them, and then didn't support H and M. Once again, one need only look at the history of this family (and the monarchy generally) to know with certainty that this happened.

Meghan was literally suicidal and fled the country during a fit of panic. She acts clingy and needy in public, maybe that's just an act though. I understand PPD and PPA from experience; I don't just waive it away or pretend she didn't have it.

Look, most actors are insecure as a rule. Combine that with postpartum depression, I'm sure it was genuinely horrible for her. Too many massive life changes in the public eye, together with brutal press, ILs who didn't warm to her, and a cold institution that naturally would not prioritize her. Agree with PPs the story might have ended differently had she eased into it. Harry really should have seen to that, and William was right to suggest it. I don't see any real villains in this story, other than the press, just a series of not-so-great choices made with mostly good intentions in the beginning.

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I am one of those searchers...

Searches for 'Order Spare' skyrocket 226%
Online searches for ‘Order Spare’ exploded 226% worldwide today, after excerpts of Prince Harry's upcoming book Spare were released.

A spokesperson for CelebTattler commented on the findings explaining: "Ever since the Duke and Duchess of Sussex stepped down from working Royal life, they have been incredibly selective about the ways in which they share personal information, from a sit down interview with TV magnate Oprah Winfrey or a Netflix series.

"However, these findings highlight that this autobiography from Prince Harry is set to be one of the most highly anticipated projects from the couple with people from all around the world seeking to buy a copy for themselves.

"It will be interesting to see how much more the Prince shares in the book about his departure as a working royal."

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Its all he said-she said from one side. Nobody knows all the real story.