MCPS faces Teacher shortage next year

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Anonymous wrote:Signing bonuses, competitive pay, and generous benefits is how employers fill positions. Do more than your competitors, then you will get the better candidates.

Particularly for hard to fill positions including Special Education jobs, MCPS advertise low wages and no benefit or signing bonuses. This results in positions going unfilled while candidates choose other school districts or private employment opportunities.

Valuing your personnel goes a long way, and it’s not happening most places. Not just In MCPS.

It's not even MCPS. It's the parents of this community and the complete lack of respect teachers get in general. People are sick and tired of being treated this way. You're so privileged bc you have SuMmEr OfF, sToP wHiNiNg....It's disgusting. People who disparaged teachers for two years are running for BOE. No one wants to put up with these types of people anymore.

That must be why over 800 teachers quit this year - because the current BOE supports teachers and respects them a lot?

You just buried yourself honey.

Ew. Who says “honey” in the year 2022? You just dated yourself. Teachers quit because of parents. You didn’t even make a point for “burying”… you’re really bad at this. Must be someone vying for the “slate” of imbeciles.

Since you didn't get it the first time, let's spell it out so it's simple enough that even someone who works in the MCPS CO or is a member of the current MC BOE could understand the point.

Last year over 500 teachers quit and not all of those positions were filled by the beginning of the 21-22 school year. The DCUMS posters last year blamed everything on covid. Most parents bought it, and even though MCPS never filled all the positions, MCPS managed to barely make it to the end of the school year.

This year MCPS doesn't have the covid excuse anymore because rocket scientists like McKnight said everything was fine and the schools had to remain open in-person. MCPS CO can't blame staff shortages on covid because they were so stupidly stubborn, even though 2100 faculty / staff and over 9% of the student body got sick, causing all sorts of disruptions in January to the point someone begged for National Guard troops to drive kids into school and they had to shut down 21 schools for two weeks each anyway and messed up so badly MCPS kept changing the covid dashboard reporting and metrics to hide how bad it was, imho. I think either way the MCPS Central Office and MC BOE looked like fools.

Right now I believe there are over 800 anticipated teacher vacancies MCPS will need to fill by August. Since last year MCPS couldn't fill all 500 positions, what makes anyone think they can realistically fill 800 positions with top-notch teachers this year? Both McKnight and the BOE knew it was an issue, at least according to the published articles where they were interviewed about it, and it was also supposedly the reason why McKnight flew to her alma mater to recruit alumni (while picking up two personal awards while she was there). It might be possible MCPS hires 800 people with a pulse, but we all know there is no way MCPS will find 800 quality, certified teachers by August. Since nothing is ever the fault of the MC BOE or MCPS CO (cough), come August when all of this blows up, I think the MCPS CO will need new scapegoats to blame?

I don't think MCPS can blame covid or a lack of funding. McKnight already requested oodles of covid money for spec ed and teacher incentives (at least that's what the ESSER III funding says - now, is the money really going to spec ed and teachers? who knows). I think last year there was also a property tax increase (with a good chunk for education) that kicked in? There was also the $160M for electric buses, $2M for discrimination training, $2M for Kid Museum. $1M for bocce ball, etc. so if MCPS could pay a million here and there for goodie bags, I don't see a credible way the MCPS CO can claim a "lack of funding" is the issue (unless they're total idiots and admit incompetent budgeting / fiscal planning? If you've got the money for cake, there better be bread on the table).

The posters on this thread are testing the waters claiming "entitled parents" are bullying them so badly that they are driven to quit, yet there are never any specific schools or incidents mentioned. I'm sure there may have been an instance or two that are valid, but I think it pales in comparison to how the MC BOE and MCPS CO treated teachers like cattle this year, imho. I would believe that the BOE or CO are getting an earful from parents, but line teachers? Maybe a safety issue at the Title I / Red Zone schools (ex. no SRO's)? I'd want to see stats from exit interviews or maybe request the Maryland IG investigate any claims like that to determine the real root cause (and hope that's exactly what the new board does when these incumbents are replaced this Fall)?

Is that better at making the point? Are you happy now?

[Anonymous]

MCPS Careers is showing 450 open teacher positions, not 800.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Signing bonuses, competitive pay, and generous benefits is how employers fill positions. Do more than your competitors, then you will get the better candidates.

Particularly for hard to fill positions including Special Education jobs, MCPS advertise low wages and no benefit or signing bonuses. This results in positions going unfilled while candidates choose other school districts or private employment opportunities.

Valuing your personnel goes a long way, and it’s not happening most places. Not just In MCPS.

It's not even MCPS. It's the parents of this community and the complete lack of respect teachers get in general. People are sick and tired of being treated this way. You're so privileged bc you have SuMmEr OfF, sToP wHiNiNg....It's disgusting. People who disparaged teachers for two years are running for BOE. No one wants to put up with these types of people anymore.

That must be why over 800 teachers quit this year - because the current BOE supports teachers and respects them a lot?

You just buried yourself honey.

Ew. Who says “honey” in the year 2022? You just dated yourself. Teachers quit because of parents. You didn’t even make a point for “burying”… you’re really bad at this. Must be someone vying for the “slate” of imbeciles.

Since you didn't get it the first time, let's spell it out so it's simple enough that even someone who works in the MCPS CO or is a member of the current MC BOE could understand the point.

Last year over 500 teachers quit and not all of those positions were filled by the beginning of the 21-22 school year. The DCUMS posters last year blamed everything on covid. Most parents bought it, and even though MCPS never filled all the positions, MCPS managed to barely make it to the end of the school year.

This year MCPS doesn't have the covid excuse anymore because rocket scientists like McKnight said everything was fine and the schools had to remain open in-person. MCPS CO can't blame staff shortages on covid because they were so stupidly stubborn, even though 2100 faculty / staff and over 9% of the student body got sick, causing all sorts of disruptions in January to the point someone begged for National Guard troops to drive kids into school and they had to shut down 21 schools for two weeks each anyway and messed up so badly MCPS kept changing the covid dashboard reporting and metrics to hide how bad it was, imho. I think either way the MCPS Central Office and MC BOE looked like fools.

Right now I believe there are over 800 anticipated teacher vacancies MCPS will need to fill by August. Since last year MCPS couldn't fill all 500 positions, what makes anyone think they can realistically fill 800 positions with top-notch teachers this year? Both McKnight and the BOE knew it was an issue, at least according to the published articles where they were interviewed about it, and it was also supposedly the reason why McKnight flew to her alma mater to recruit alumni (while picking up two personal awards while she was there). It might be possible MCPS hires 800 people with a pulse, but we all know there is no way MCPS will find 800 quality, certified teachers by August. Since nothing is ever the fault of the MC BOE or MCPS CO (cough), come August when all of this blows up, I think the MCPS CO will need new scapegoats to blame?

I don't think MCPS can blame covid or a lack of funding. McKnight already requested oodles of covid money for spec ed and teacher incentives (at least that's what the ESSER III funding says - now, is the money really going to spec ed and teachers? who knows). I think last year there was also a property tax increase (with a good chunk for education) that kicked in? There was also the $160M for electric buses, $2M for discrimination training, $2M for Kid Museum. $1M for bocce ball, etc. so if MCPS could pay a million here and there for goodie bags, I don't see a credible way the MCPS CO can claim a "lack of funding" is the issue (unless they're total idiots and admit incompetent budgeting / fiscal planning? If you've got the money for cake, there better be bread on the table).

The posters on this thread are testing the waters claiming "entitled parents" are bullying them so badly that they are driven to quit, yet there are never any specific schools or incidents mentioned. I'm sure there may have been an instance or two that are valid, but I think it pales in comparison to how the MC BOE and MCPS CO treated teachers like cattle this year, imho. I would believe that the BOE or CO are getting an earful from parents, but line teachers? Maybe a safety issue at the Title I / Red Zone schools (ex. no SRO's)? I'd want to see stats from exit interviews or maybe request the Maryland IG investigate any claims like that to determine the real root cause (and hope that's exactly what the new board does when these incumbents are replaced this Fall)?

Is that better at making the point? Are you happy now?

Not really. People like you are the actual problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MCPS Careers is showing 450 open teacher positions, not 800.

Well, that's just a number and we enjoy exaggerating the degree to which this is a problem since our goal is to fearmonger right?

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Anonymous wrote:There's a shortage of teacher because no one wants to deal with Montgomery County parents. I have various friends who are teachers at MCPS and if they didn't have the level of seniority that they have, and would have to go backwards, they would leave MCPS in a heartbeat for school districts that treat their staff better.

They are shielded from parents. I've worked in a toxic school environment (in Bethesda) and it was the principal that is the problem, not parents. I would love it if Congress sent subpoenas to principals like the one I worked under recently, but they're to busy investigating the toxic work environment of a football team instead I guess.

Principals who don't respect paras, special ed teachers and classroom monitors, and who make NT teachers curl up inside themselves should be fired or moved to office jobs. They make work suck, and people predictably leave.

YOU may have been “shielded from parents,” but most teachers aren’t, and they’re sick to death of the attitudes and the entitlement.

Right on but I think the problem is worse where parents feel most entitled and are pushy.

Give a specific example at a specific school. How many parents were involved? What did they do? What did you do? Why did the parent feel the need to get involved? Did you talk to the parent(s)? Did you complain to your P or the PTA?

Everyone knows those schools. I don't have to name them. Examples of what goes on there are already discussed here ad nauseam.

Yes you do. I think you're a liar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MCPS Careers is showing 450 open teacher positions, not 800.

"As of June 13, there were 581 unfilled positions. Meanwhile, 973 teachers have indicated they will be resigning or retiring. When the previous school year ended, 668 – about one-third fewer – teachers had indicated their plans to resign or retire, according to a spokesperson for the Montgomery County Education Association."
https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-faces-teacher-shortage-for-next-school-year/

But if not, and you're correct, then great! Then there is no teacher shortage issue since MCPS Administrators are all qualified teachers and can backfill any openings in August, right?

https://parentscoalitionmc.blogspot.com/2022/06/mcps-letter-extended-school-year-esy.html?m=1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Signing bonuses, competitive pay, and generous benefits is how employers fill positions. Do more than your competitors, then you will get the better candidates.

Particularly for hard to fill positions including Special Education jobs, MCPS advertise low wages and no benefit or signing bonuses. This results in positions going unfilled while candidates choose other school districts or private employment opportunities.

Valuing your personnel goes a long way, and it’s not happening most places. Not just In MCPS.

It's not even MCPS. It's the parents of this community and the complete lack of respect teachers get in general. People are sick and tired of being treated this way. You're so privileged bc you have SuMmEr OfF, sToP wHiNiNg....It's disgusting. People who disparaged teachers for two years are running for BOE. No one wants to put up with these types of people anymore.

That must be why over 800 teachers quit this year - because the current BOE supports teachers and respects them a lot?

You just buried yourself honey.

Ew. Who says “honey” in the year 2022? You just dated yourself. Teachers quit because of parents. You didn’t even make a point for “burying”… you’re really bad at this. Must be someone vying for the “slate” of imbeciles.

Since you didn't get it the first time, let's spell it out so it's simple enough that even someone who works in the MCPS CO or is a member of the current MC BOE could understand the point.

Last year over 500 teachers quit and not all of those positions were filled by the beginning of the 21-22 school year. The DCUMS posters last year blamed everything on covid. Most parents bought it, and even though MCPS never filled all the positions, MCPS managed to barely make it to the end of the school year.

This year MCPS doesn't have the covid excuse anymore because rocket scientists like McKnight said everything was fine and the schools had to remain open in-person. MCPS CO can't blame staff shortages on covid because they were so stupidly stubborn, even though 2100 faculty / staff and over 9% of the student body got sick, causing all sorts of disruptions in January to the point someone begged for National Guard troops to drive kids into school and they had to shut down 21 schools for two weeks each anyway and messed up so badly MCPS kept changing the covid dashboard reporting and metrics to hide how bad it was, imho. I think either way the MCPS Central Office and MC BOE looked like fools.

Right now I believe there are over 800 anticipated teacher vacancies MCPS will need to fill by August. Since last year MCPS couldn't fill all 500 positions, what makes anyone think they can realistically fill 800 positions with top-notch teachers this year? Both McKnight and the BOE knew it was an issue, at least according to the published articles where they were interviewed about it, and it was also supposedly the reason why McKnight flew to her alma mater to recruit alumni (while picking up two personal awards while she was there). It might be possible MCPS hires 800 people with a pulse, but we all know there is no way MCPS will find 800 quality, certified teachers by August. Since nothing is ever the fault of the MC BOE or MCPS CO (cough), come August when all of this blows up, I think the MCPS CO will need new scapegoats to blame?

I don't think MCPS can blame covid or a lack of funding. McKnight already requested oodles of covid money for spec ed and teacher incentives (at least that's what the ESSER III funding says - now, is the money really going to spec ed and teachers? who knows). I think last year there was also a property tax increase (with a good chunk for education) that kicked in? There was also the $160M for electric buses, $2M for discrimination training, $2M for Kid Museum. $1M for bocce ball, etc. so if MCPS could pay a million here and there for goodie bags, I don't see a credible way the MCPS CO can claim a "lack of funding" is the issue (unless they're total idiots and admit incompetent budgeting / fiscal planning? If you've got the money for cake, there better be bread on the table).

The posters on this thread are testing the waters claiming "entitled parents" are bullying them so badly that they are driven to quit, yet there are never any specific schools or incidents mentioned. I'm sure there may have been an instance or two that are valid, but I think it pales in comparison to how the MC BOE and MCPS CO treated teachers like cattle this year, imho. I would believe that the BOE or CO are getting an earful from parents, but line teachers? Maybe a safety issue at the Title I / Red Zone schools (ex. no SRO's)? I'd want to see stats from exit interviews or maybe request the Maryland IG investigate any claims like that to determine the real root cause (and hope that's exactly what the new board does when these incumbents are replaced this Fall)?

Is that better at making the point? Are you happy now?

Imagine smugly typing this out and thinking you had a "gotcha" moment. So embarrassing. You sound like an entitled parent who is upset people are calling out entitled parents for their poor behavior. You are the problem whether you like it or not. This basically proves everyone else's point. Congratulations, I hope you feel better about yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is always so crazy to read these threads blaming parents for the issues teachers are facing. I rarely, if ever, hear from parents. When/if I hear from them, they’ve never been a problem. My problems are very much within the school and with there being no discipline allowed in MCPS. The training says that kids need to follow the rules, but it doesn’t say what happens when they don’t. Actually, it gives consequences, but teachers are not permitted to use them and principals have their hands tied.

It just shows how divided and large our county is. The great majority of schools do not have problems with parents. Having parent issues sounds like a dream as that would mean my day-to-day dealings aren’t significant enough to make me hate teaching.

I do not feel that Dr McKnight has enough background to bring about the change we need- especially since the change needed is so different school by school.

As far as staffing, teachers need to choose between feeling scared by behaviors or crazy parents. Personally, I’m switching to a crazy parent school this year and I can’t wait.

Doubt this is a teacher, but if you are...so because YOU personally have never dealt with crazy parents, no one has? Most people are not speaking about the day to day interactions with parents either-they mean this entire community as a whole. Think of the parents who endlessly testify at board meetings who blame teachers for all of their problems in life. Think of the reopening groups who berated teachers on a daily basis...telling them they were lazy and worthless all while begging them to come back. The cognitive dissonance with these people is truly spectacular. I'm sure you'll have an amazing year with parents blaming you constantly for everything and emailing you incessantly about why their kid who does zero work doesn't have an A. Have fun with admin being CC'd on everything and YOU getting blamed for all of it. I'm sure this year will be pure joy for you.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a shortage of teacher because no one wants to deal with Montgomery County parents. I have various friends who are teachers at MCPS and if they didn't have the level of seniority that they have, and would have to go backwards, they would leave MCPS in a heartbeat for school districts that treat their staff better.

They are shielded from parents. I've worked in a toxic school environment (in Bethesda) and it was the principal that is the problem, not parents. I would love it if Congress sent subpoenas to principals like the one I worked under recently, but they're to busy investigating the toxic work environment of a football team instead I guess.

Principals who don't respect paras, special ed teachers and classroom monitors, and who make NT teachers curl up inside themselves should be fired or moved to office jobs. They make work suck, and people predictably leave.

YOU may have been “shielded from parents,” but most teachers aren’t, and they’re sick to death of the attitudes and the entitlement.

Right on but I think the problem is worse where parents feel most entitled and are pushy.

Give a specific example at a specific school. How many parents were involved? What did they do? What did you do? Why did the parent feel the need to get involved? Did you talk to the parent(s)? Did you complain to your P or the PTA?

Everyone knows those schools. I don't have to name them. Examples of what goes on there are already discussed here ad nauseam.

Schools that start with a "W" for $100

[Anonymous]

Jennifer Reesman a "respected" PhD in the reopening group...trying to open a can of worms about 5th grade health curriculum ..got schooled..then deleted it so she wouldnt be associated with it. These are the people others rely on for information when they cant even bother to do the background info themselves first...but people trust them because of the PhD. Get smarter,MoCo...

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Anonymous wrote:Jennifer Reesman a "respected" PhD in the reopening group...trying to open a can of worms about 5th grade health curriculum ..got schooled..then deleted it so she wouldnt be associated with it. These are the people others rely on for information when they cant even bother to do the background info themselves first...but people trust them because of the PhD. Get smarter,MoCo...

And you're claiming that made a teacher quit, or multiple teachers quit? Sounds like an isolated instance to me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Signing bonuses, competitive pay, and generous benefits is how employers fill positions. Do more than your competitors, then you will get the better candidates.

Particularly for hard to fill positions including Special Education jobs, MCPS advertise low wages and no benefit or signing bonuses. This results in positions going unfilled while candidates choose other school districts or private employment opportunities.

Valuing your personnel goes a long way, and it’s not happening most places. Not just In MCPS.

It's not even MCPS. It's the parents of this community and the complete lack of respect teachers get in general. People are sick and tired of being treated this way. You're so privileged bc you have SuMmEr OfF, sToP wHiNiNg....It's disgusting. People who disparaged teachers for two years are running for BOE. No one wants to put up with these types of people anymore.

That must be why over 800 teachers quit this year - because the current BOE supports teachers and respects them a lot?

You just buried yourself honey.

Ew. Who says “honey” in the year 2022? You just dated yourself. Teachers quit because of parents. You didn’t even make a point for “burying”… you’re really bad at this. Must be someone vying for the “slate” of imbeciles.

Since you didn't get it the first time, let's spell it out so it's simple enough that even someone who works in the MCPS CO or is a member of the current MC BOE could understand the point.

Last year over 500 teachers quit and not all of those positions were filled by the beginning of the 21-22 school year. The DCUMS posters last year blamed everything on covid. Most parents bought it, and even though MCPS never filled all the positions, MCPS managed to barely make it to the end of the school year.

This year MCPS doesn't have the covid excuse anymore because rocket scientists like McKnight said everything was fine and the schools had to remain open in-person. MCPS CO can't blame staff shortages on covid because they were so stupidly stubborn, even though 2100 faculty / staff and over 9% of the student body got sick, causing all sorts of disruptions in January to the point someone begged for National Guard troops to drive kids into school and they had to shut down 21 schools for two weeks each anyway and messed up so badly MCPS kept changing the covid dashboard reporting and metrics to hide how bad it was, imho. I think either way the MCPS Central Office and MC BOE looked like fools.

Right now I believe there are over 800 anticipated teacher vacancies MCPS will need to fill by August. Since last year MCPS couldn't fill all 500 positions, what makes anyone think they can realistically fill 800 positions with top-notch teachers this year? Both McKnight and the BOE knew it was an issue, at least according to the published articles where they were interviewed about it, and it was also supposedly the reason why McKnight flew to her alma mater to recruit alumni (while picking up two personal awards while she was there). It might be possible MCPS hires 800 people with a pulse, but we all know there is no way MCPS will find 800 quality, certified teachers by August. Since nothing is ever the fault of the MC BOE or MCPS CO (cough), come August when all of this blows up, I think the MCPS CO will need new scapegoats to blame?

I don't think MCPS can blame covid or a lack of funding. McKnight already requested oodles of covid money for spec ed and teacher incentives (at least that's what the ESSER III funding says - now, is the money really going to spec ed and teachers? who knows). I think last year there was also a property tax increase (with a good chunk for education) that kicked in? There was also the $160M for electric buses, $2M for discrimination training, $2M for Kid Museum. $1M for bocce ball, etc. so if MCPS could pay a million here and there for goodie bags, I don't see a credible way the MCPS CO can claim a "lack of funding" is the issue (unless they're total idiots and admit incompetent budgeting / fiscal planning? If you've got the money for cake, there better be bread on the table).

The posters on this thread are testing the waters claiming "entitled parents" are bullying them so badly that they are driven to quit, yet there are never any specific schools or incidents mentioned. I'm sure there may have been an instance or two that are valid, but I think it pales in comparison to how the MC BOE and MCPS CO treated teachers like cattle this year, imho. I would believe that the BOE or CO are getting an earful from parents, but line teachers? Maybe a safety issue at the Title I / Red Zone schools (ex. no SRO's)? I'd want to see stats from exit interviews or maybe request the Maryland IG investigate any claims like that to determine the real root cause (and hope that's exactly what the new board does when these incumbents are replaced this Fall)?

Is that better at making the point? Are you happy now?

Imagine smugly typing this out and thinking you had a "gotcha" moment. So embarrassing. You sound like an entitled parent who is upset people are calling out entitled parents for their poor behavior. You are the problem whether you like it or not. This basically proves everyone else's point. Congratulations, I hope you feel better about yourself.

Wow. Putting the crazy talk aside, MCPS will either have no staffing issues in August, or they will.

If it's fixed, then McKnight did what a half-a-mil Sup should do (i.e. her job) and this entire thread is just hot air.

On the other hand, if MCPS doesn't cover the staffing issues and classes either don't have a teacher or have to cancel classes to support basic subjects - that would be a problem.

If all MCPS does is posture and CYA, then I think it would be time for massive restructuring for ALL Central Office staff should be re-assigned to fill teaching positions, or be fired?

Don't you agree?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Jennifer Reesman a "respected" PhD in the reopening group...trying to open a can of worms about 5th grade health curriculum ..got schooled..then deleted it so she wouldnt be associated with it. These are the people others rely on for information when they cant even bother to do the background info themselves first...but people trust them because of the PhD. Get smarter,MoCo...

And you're claiming that made a teacher quit, or multiple teachers quit? Sounds like an isolated instance to me.

Tell me where in that post it said a teacher quit. We'll be waiting forever because per usual you lack reading comprehension.

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Anonymous wrote:Signing bonuses, competitive pay, and generous benefits is how employers fill positions. Do more than your competitors, then you will get the better candidates.

Particularly for hard to fill positions including Special Education jobs, MCPS advertise low wages and no benefit or signing bonuses. This results in positions going unfilled while candidates choose other school districts or private employment opportunities.

Valuing your personnel goes a long way, and it’s not happening most places. Not just In MCPS.

It's not even MCPS. It's the parents of this community and the complete lack of respect teachers get in general. People are sick and tired of being treated this way. You're so privileged bc you have SuMmEr OfF, sToP wHiNiNg....It's disgusting. People who disparaged teachers for two years are running for BOE. No one wants to put up with these types of people anymore.

That must be why over 800 teachers quit this year - because the current BOE supports teachers and respects them a lot?

You just buried yourself honey.

Ew. Who says “honey” in the year 2022? You just dated yourself. Teachers quit because of parents. You didn’t even make a point for “burying”… you’re really bad at this. Must be someone vying for the “slate” of imbeciles.

Crazy? The PP nailed you spot on...

Since you didn't get it the first time, let's spell it out so it's simple enough that even someone who works in the MCPS CO or is a member of the current MC BOE could understand the point.

Last year over 500 teachers quit and not all of those positions were filled by the beginning of the 21-22 school year. The DCUMS posters last year blamed everything on covid. Most parents bought it, and even though MCPS never filled all the positions, MCPS managed to barely make it to the end of the school year.

This year MCPS doesn't have the covid excuse anymore because rocket scientists like McKnight said everything was fine and the schools had to remain open in-person. MCPS CO can't blame staff shortages on covid because they were so stupidly stubborn, even though 2100 faculty / staff and over 9% of the student body got sick, causing all sorts of disruptions in January to the point someone begged for National Guard troops to drive kids into school and they had to shut down 21 schools for two weeks each anyway and messed up so badly MCPS kept changing the covid dashboard reporting and metrics to hide how bad it was, imho. I think either way the MCPS Central Office and MC BOE looked like fools.

Right now I believe there are over 800 anticipated teacher vacancies MCPS will need to fill by August. Since last year MCPS couldn't fill all 500 positions, what makes anyone think they can realistically fill 800 positions with top-notch teachers this year? Both McKnight and the BOE knew it was an issue, at least according to the published articles where they were interviewed about it, and it was also supposedly the reason why McKnight flew to her alma mater to recruit alumni (while picking up two personal awards while she was there). It might be possible MCPS hires 800 people with a pulse, but we all know there is no way MCPS will find 800 quality, certified teachers by August. Since nothing is ever the fault of the MC BOE or MCPS CO (cough), come August when all of this blows up, I think the MCPS CO will need new scapegoats to blame?

I don't think MCPS can blame covid or a lack of funding. McKnight already requested oodles of covid money for spec ed and teacher incentives (at least that's what the ESSER III funding says - now, is the money really going to spec ed and teachers? who knows). I think last year there was also a property tax increase (with a good chunk for education) that kicked in? There was also the $160M for electric buses, $2M for discrimination training, $2M for Kid Museum. $1M for bocce ball, etc. so if MCPS could pay a million here and there for goodie bags, I don't see a credible way the MCPS CO can claim a "lack of funding" is the issue (unless they're total idiots and admit incompetent budgeting / fiscal planning? If you've got the money for cake, there better be bread on the table).

The posters on this thread are testing the waters claiming "entitled parents" are bullying them so badly that they are driven to quit, yet there are never any specific schools or incidents mentioned. I'm sure there may have been an instance or two that are valid, but I think it pales in comparison to how the MC BOE and MCPS CO treated teachers like cattle this year, imho. I would believe that the BOE or CO are getting an earful from parents, but line teachers? Maybe a safety issue at the Title I / Red Zone schools (ex. no SRO's)? I'd want to see stats from exit interviews or maybe request the Maryland IG investigate any claims like that to determine the real root cause (and hope that's exactly what the new board does when these incumbents are replaced this Fall)?

Is that better at making the point? Are you happy now?

Imagine smugly typing this out and thinking you had a "gotcha" moment. So embarrassing. You sound like an entitled parent who is upset people are calling out entitled parents for their poor behavior. You are the problem whether you like it or not. This basically proves everyone else's point. Congratulations, I hope you feel better about yourself.

Wow. Putting the crazy talk aside, MCPS will either have no staffing issues in August, or they will.

If it's fixed, then McKnight did what a half-a-mil Sup should do (i.e. her job) and this entire thread is just hot air.

On the other hand, if MCPS doesn't cover the staffing issues and classes either don't have a teacher or have to cancel classes to support basic subjects - that would be a problem.

If all MCPS does is posture and CYA, then I think it would be time for massive restructuring for ALL Central Office staff should be re-assigned to fill teaching positions, or be fired?

Don't you agree?

Crazy? The PP nailed you, spot on. Continue to feel salty about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Signing bonuses, competitive pay, and generous benefits is how employers fill positions. Do more than your competitors, then you will get the better candidates.

Particularly for hard to fill positions including Special Education jobs, MCPS advertise low wages and no benefit or signing bonuses. This results in positions going unfilled while candidates choose other school districts or private employment opportunities.

Valuing your personnel goes a long way, and it’s not happening most places. Not just In MCPS.

It's not even MCPS. It's the parents of this community and the complete lack of respect teachers get in general. People are sick and tired of being treated this way. You're so privileged bc you have SuMmEr OfF, sToP wHiNiNg....It's disgusting. People who disparaged teachers for two years are running for BOE. No one wants to put up with these types of people anymore.

That must be why over 800 teachers quit this year - because the current BOE supports teachers and respects them a lot?

You just buried yourself honey.

Ew. Who says “honey” in the year 2022? You just dated yourself. Teachers quit because of parents. You didn’t even make a point for “burying”… you’re really bad at this. Must be someone vying for the “slate” of imbeciles.

Crazy? The PP nailed you spot on...

Since you didn't get it the first time, let's spell it out so it's simple enough that even someone who works in the MCPS CO or is a member of the current MC BOE could understand the point.

Last year over 500 teachers quit and not all of those positions were filled by the beginning of the 21-22 school year. The DCUMS posters last year blamed everything on covid. Most parents bought it, and even though MCPS never filled all the positions, MCPS managed to barely make it to the end of the school year.

This year MCPS doesn't have the covid excuse anymore because rocket scientists like McKnight said everything was fine and the schools had to remain open in-person. MCPS CO can't blame staff shortages on covid because they were so stupidly stubborn, even though 2100 faculty / staff and over 9% of the student body got sick, causing all sorts of disruptions in January to the point someone begged for National Guard troops to drive kids into school and they had to shut down 21 schools for two weeks each anyway and messed up so badly MCPS kept changing the covid dashboard reporting and metrics to hide how bad it was, imho. I think either way the MCPS Central Office and MC BOE looked like fools.

Right now I believe there are over 800 anticipated teacher vacancies MCPS will need to fill by August. Since last year MCPS couldn't fill all 500 positions, what makes anyone think they can realistically fill 800 positions with top-notch teachers this year? Both McKnight and the BOE knew it was an issue, at least according to the published articles where they were interviewed about it, and it was also supposedly the reason why McKnight flew to her alma mater to recruit alumni (while picking up two personal awards while she was there). It might be possible MCPS hires 800 people with a pulse, but we all know there is no way MCPS will find 800 quality, certified teachers by August. Since nothing is ever the fault of the MC BOE or MCPS CO (cough), come August when all of this blows up, I think the MCPS CO will need new scapegoats to blame?

I don't think MCPS can blame covid or a lack of funding. McKnight already requested oodles of covid money for spec ed and teacher incentives (at least that's what the ESSER III funding says - now, is the money really going to spec ed and teachers? who knows). I think last year there was also a property tax increase (with a good chunk for education) that kicked in? There was also the $160M for electric buses, $2M for discrimination training, $2M for Kid Museum. $1M for bocce ball, etc. so if MCPS could pay a million here and there for goodie bags, I don't see a credible way the MCPS CO can claim a "lack of funding" is the issue (unless they're total idiots and admit incompetent budgeting / fiscal planning? If you've got the money for cake, there better be bread on the table).

The posters on this thread are testing the waters claiming "entitled parents" are bullying them so badly that they are driven to quit, yet there are never any specific schools or incidents mentioned. I'm sure there may have been an instance or two that are valid, but I think it pales in comparison to how the MC BOE and MCPS CO treated teachers like cattle this year, imho. I would believe that the BOE or CO are getting an earful from parents, but line teachers? Maybe a safety issue at the Title I / Red Zone schools (ex. no SRO's)? I'd want to see stats from exit interviews or maybe request the Maryland IG investigate any claims like that to determine the real root cause (and hope that's exactly what the new board does when these incumbents are replaced this Fall)?

Is that better at making the point? Are you happy now?

Imagine smugly typing this out and thinking you had a "gotcha" moment. So embarrassing. You sound like an entitled parent who is upset people are calling out entitled parents for their poor behavior. You are the problem whether you like it or not. This basically proves everyone else's point. Congratulations, I hope you feel better about yourself.

Wow. Putting the crazy talk aside, MCPS will either have no staffing issues in August, or they will.

If it's fixed, then McKnight did what a half-a-mil Sup should do (i.e. her job) and this entire thread is just hot air.

On the other hand, if MCPS doesn't cover the staffing issues and classes either don't have a teacher or have to cancel classes to support basic subjects - that would be a problem.

If all MCPS does is posture and CYA, then I think it would be time for massive restructuring for ALL Central Office staff should be re-assigned to fill teaching positions, or be fired?

Don't you agree?

Crazy? The PP nailed you, spot on. Continue to feel salty about it.

Have to disagree. The PP was spot on. They seem like an entitled parent.