8th grader who is 15?

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Anonymous wrote:The only kid I know who will likely be 19 as a senior has been redshirted twice. Once before kindergarten and once in high school because of Covid. He's also one of the best quarterbacks in the country, also has multiple D1 offers to play football, he's a sophomore currently. He's not competing with the offspring of the uber competitive complainers here he's on a whole different trajectory. So I don't think this is common enough for people to worry about.

Not very bright then? Guess sports are more important than academics. Not something to brag about.

Redshirted because of Covid? Hasn’t the whole world suffered from Covid?

Because football was canceled due to Covid. Look, these are the types of kids likely to be 19. Is OP really worried about future quarterbacks?

This makes zero sense.

What? A football obsessed kid didn't get to play football one year because the whole season was canceled. So he repeated a year of high school. For football. Thus he will be 19 when he graduates. What's not to understand? This is a rare reason why there might be someone that old in high school. Not one other person has offered any explanation why there might be a 19 y/o senior. Why do you think there are kids 19-20 in school if that's what the giant concern in this thread is about? Do you know any kids that old in school or is this whole thread a big to do about nothing?

I don’t get why you would hold your child back for sports. No football for one season, if deal. They can still train.

It’s not my child. Football is a different beast. It’s about actual play time and games. Training in a vacuum isn’t going to be the same. I wouldn’t expect most people here to understand. But you realize football is a big deal to universities, right? This shouldn’t be new information.

Any decent university is not going to expect a student to be held back for football. It’s sad that the parents priority is football and not academics. If they are good enough they’d be fine.

Do you often argue about things you obviously have no clue about? It's obvious you don't know the first thing about football so probably best to just bow out.

You think football over an education is more important? Makes zero sense.

How was education negatively impacted for that kid?

Crickets.


So really no downside for redshirting this kid. Kid gets academics and athletics.

Are you so entitled that the pp is obligated to answer such a stupid question?

Very defensive. Interesting.

It’s a simple question. And it has a simple answer.

That kid’s education is NOT negatively impacted by redshirting. So that parent really isn’t “putting football over academics” by redshirting. Kid gets both.

So, you do put football over academics.

Redshirting doesn’t negatively affect academics so…no.

Again, you value football over academics.

No. For that kid they are equal. He loses nothing by redshirting.

Football will never be equal to academics.

He chooses to do both.

He gets football. AND academics.

No downside for him to redshirt.

Choosing football to redshirt is not a justified reason to redshirt no matter how you try to twist it.

You don’t really need a justification to redshirt. Sports are as good of a reason as any.

DP.
You should not speak on anything academically related. I pray for children’s sake that you do not have any or work in a school setting.

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Anonymous wrote:The only kid I know who will likely be 19 as a senior has been redshirted twice. Once before kindergarten and once in high school because of Covid. He's also one of the best quarterbacks in the country, also has multiple D1 offers to play football, he's a sophomore currently. He's not competing with the offspring of the uber competitive complainers here he's on a whole different trajectory. So I don't think this is common enough for people to worry about.

Not very bright then? Guess sports are more important than academics. Not something to brag about.

Redshirted because of Covid? Hasn’t the whole world suffered from Covid?

Because football was canceled due to Covid. Look, these are the types of kids likely to be 19. Is OP really worried about future quarterbacks?

This makes zero sense.

What? A football obsessed kid didn't get to play football one year because the whole season was canceled. So he repeated a year of high school. For football. Thus he will be 19 when he graduates. What's not to understand? This is a rare reason why there might be someone that old in high school. Not one other person has offered any explanation why there might be a 19 y/o senior. Why do you think there are kids 19-20 in school if that's what the giant concern in this thread is about? Do you know any kids that old in school or is this whole thread a big to do about nothing?

I don’t get why you would hold your child back for sports. No football for one season, if deal. They can still train.

It’s not my child. Football is a different beast. It’s about actual play time and games. Training in a vacuum isn’t going to be the same. I wouldn’t expect most people here to understand. But you realize football is a big deal to universities, right? This shouldn’t be new information.

Any decent university is not going to expect a student to be held back for football. It’s sad that the parents priority is football and not academics. If they are good enough they’d be fine.

Do you often argue about things you obviously have no clue about? It's obvious you don't know the first thing about football so probably best to just bow out.

You think football over an education is more important? Makes zero sense.

How was education negatively impacted for that kid?

Crickets.


So really no downside for redshirting this kid. Kid gets academics and athletics.

Are you so entitled that the pp is obligated to answer such a stupid question?

Very defensive. Interesting.

It’s a simple question. And it has a simple answer.

That kid’s education is NOT negatively impacted by redshirting. So that parent really isn’t “putting football over academics” by redshirting. Kid gets both.

So, you do put football over academics.

Redshirting doesn’t negatively affect academics so…no.

Again, you value football over academics.

No. For that kid they are equal. He loses nothing by redshirting.

Football will never be equal to academics.

He chooses to do both.

He gets football. AND academics.

No downside for him to redshirt.

Choosing football to redshirt is not a justified reason to redshirt no matter how you try to twist it.

Why? There is no downside.

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Anonymous wrote:Again, redshirted kids are starting to be frowned upon. Kids who go to school on time are seen as capable of handling life at appropriate ages.

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I have seen zero evidence of this. If anything, it’s more common than it has ever been. Also, putting your opinions in a passive voice doesn’t suddenly make them any more authoritative.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, if you have a truly elite prospect in any sport, the sport is more important. I’m sorry but that’s how it is. Even kids in individual sports like gymnastics and skating, they’re not doing a full 8-3:30 day in school.

You can always do more school. You can’t be in the physical condition of an 18-25 year old when you’re 35.

You must be posting on the wrong forum.

I’m just letting you know how it is. But again, since you’re very on about fairness and such, you should know that 1) football/sports redshirting to reclass is very rare and only done by the parents of top recruits, 2) those kids are headed to, like, Alabama and Ohio State and Wisconsin and such for college, where they will attend 2 maybe 3 years in mostly special classes for athletes before declaring for the draft. So your precious snowflakes won’t even come into contact with them, right?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure it would be hard to have a 20 year old senior, fortunately that doesn’t really happen.

There are plenty of 19 year old seniors. Way to old. Especially when some start high school at 13.

If they are 19 during their senior year then they have a fall/spring birthday and were redshirted one year. It's uncommon for fall/spring birthday kids to be redshirted.

So not "plenty".

It is common for spring birthdays, don’t be naive.

Not in the DC area - except for maybe a handful of privates.

+1 I've been a public school teacher in the DC area for 28 years; spring birthday redshirts are definitely rare.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure it would be hard to have a 20 year old senior, fortunately that doesn’t really happen.

There are plenty of 19 year old seniors. Way to old. Especially when some start high school at 13.

If they are 19 during their senior year then they have a fall/spring birthday and were redshirted one year. It's uncommon for fall/spring birthday kids to be redshirted.

So not "plenty".

It is common for spring birthdays, don’t be naive.

Not in the DC area - except for maybe a handful of privates.

+1 I've been a public school teacher in the DC area for 28 years; spring birthday redshirts are definitely rare.

Tell that to the students in class with the redshirted kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure it would be hard to have a 20 year old senior, fortunately that doesn’t really happen.

There are plenty of 19 year old seniors. Way to old. Especially when some start high school at 13.

If they are 19 during their senior year then they have a fall/spring birthday and were redshirted one year. It's uncommon for fall/spring birthday kids to be redshirted.

So not "plenty".

It is common for spring birthdays, don’t be naive.

Not in the DC area - except for maybe a handful of privates.

+1 I've been a public school teacher in the DC area for 28 years; spring birthday redshirts are definitely rare.

2 neighbors have April birthdays who are both redshirted and my child has a classmate who has a February birthday who is also redshirted.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure it would be hard to have a 20 year old senior, fortunately that doesn’t really happen.

There are plenty of 19 year old seniors. Way to old. Especially when some start high school at 13.

If they are 19 during their senior year then they have a fall/spring birthday and were redshirted one year. It's uncommon for fall/spring birthday kids to be redshirted.

So not "plenty".

It is common for spring birthdays, don’t be naive.

Not in the DC area - except for maybe a handful of privates.

+1 I've been a public school teacher in the DC area for 28 years; spring birthday redshirts are definitely rare.

2 neighbors have April birthdays who are both redshirted and my child has a classmate who has a February birthday who is also redshirted.

Where is this?

Did they just start K? Maybe parents were worried about covid since they didn’t have vaccine last fall.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure it would be hard to have a 20 year old senior, fortunately that doesn’t really happen.

There are plenty of 19 year old seniors. Way to old. Especially when some start high school at 13.

If they are 19 during their senior year then they have a fall/spring birthday and were redshirted one year. It's uncommon for fall/spring birthday kids to be redshirted.

So not "plenty".

It is common for spring birthdays, don’t be naive.

Not in the DC area - except for maybe a handful of privates.

+1 I've been a public school teacher in the DC area for 28 years; spring birthday redshirts are definitely rare.

2 neighbors have April birthdays who are both redshirted and my child has a classmate who has a February birthday who is also redshirted.

Where is this?

Did they just start K? Maybe parents were worried about covid since they didn’t have vaccine last fall.

DP, but my rising 9th grader has a school friend who turned 15 in May of 8th grade (private) and a sports friend who will turn 15 in March of 8th grade next year (public) suburban MoCo. These kids are around.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure it would be hard to have a 20 year old senior, fortunately that doesn’t really happen.

There are plenty of 19 year old seniors. Way to old. Especially when some start high school at 13.

If they are 19 during their senior year then they have a fall/spring birthday and were redshirted one year. It's uncommon for fall/spring birthday kids to be redshirted.

So not "plenty".

It is common for spring birthdays, don’t be naive.

Not in the DC area - except for maybe a handful of privates.

+1 I've been a public school teacher in the DC area for 28 years; spring birthday redshirts are definitely rare.

2 neighbors have April birthdays who are both redshirted and my child has a classmate who has a February birthday who is also redshirted.

Where is this?

Did they just start K? Maybe parents were worried about covid since they didn’t have vaccine last fall.

DP, but my rising 9th grader has a school friend who turned 15 in May of 8th grade (private) and a sports friend who will turn 15 in March of 8th grade next year (public) suburban MoCo. These kids are around.

Still pretty uncommon but more common in private schools, which often have their own “unofficial” cutoffs. Most redshirted kids have summer birthdays so they are 6 for all of K, 14 for all of 8th grade, 18 for all of senior year, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure it would be hard to have a 20 year old senior, fortunately that doesn’t really happen.

There are plenty of 19 year old seniors. Way to old. Especially when some start high school at 13.

If they are 19 during their senior year then they have a fall/spring birthday and were redshirted one year. It's uncommon for fall/spring birthday kids to be redshirted.

So not "plenty".

It is common for spring birthdays, don’t be naive.

Not in the DC area - except for maybe a handful of privates.

+1 I've been a public school teacher in the DC area for 28 years; spring birthday redshirts are definitely rare.

2 neighbors have April birthdays who are both redshirted and my child has a classmate who has a February birthday who is also redshirted.

Where is this?

Did they just start K? Maybe parents were worried about covid since they didn’t have vaccine last fall.

These are all teenage kids so no, not covid related.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure it would be hard to have a 20 year old senior, fortunately that doesn’t really happen.

There are plenty of 19 year old seniors. Way to old. Especially when some start high school at 13.

If they are 19 during their senior year then they have a fall/spring birthday and were redshirted one year. It's uncommon for fall/spring birthday kids to be redshirted.

So not "plenty".

It is common for spring birthdays, don’t be naive.

Not in the DC area - except for maybe a handful of privates.

+1 I've been a public school teacher in the DC area for 28 years; spring birthday redshirts are definitely rare.

2 neighbors have April birthdays who are both redshirted and my child has a classmate who has a February birthday who is also redshirted.

Where is this?

Did they just start K? Maybe parents were worried about covid since they didn’t have vaccine last fall.

DP, but my rising 9th grader has a school friend who turned 15 in May of 8th grade (private) and a sports friend who will turn 15 in March of 8th grade next year (public) suburban MoCo. These kids are around.

Still pretty uncommon but more common in private schools, which often have their own “unofficial” cutoffs. Most redshirted kids have summer birthdays so they are 6 for all of K, 14 for all of 8th grade, 18 for all of senior year, etc.

There are plenty of non-summer redshirted children who I deal with.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure it would be hard to have a 20 year old senior, fortunately that doesn’t really happen.

There are plenty of 19 year old seniors. Way to old. Especially when some start high school at 13.

If they are 19 during their senior year then they have a fall/spring birthday and were redshirted one year. It's uncommon for fall/spring birthday kids to be redshirted.

So not "plenty".

It is common for spring birthdays, don’t be naive.

Not in the DC area - except for maybe a handful of privates.

+1 I've been a public school teacher in the DC area for 28 years; spring birthday redshirts are definitely rare.

2 neighbors have April birthdays who are both redshirted and my child has a classmate who has a February birthday who is also redshirted.

Where is this?

Did they just start K? Maybe parents were worried about covid since they didn’t have vaccine last fall.

These are all teenage kids so no, not covid related.

Where is this? DC area? Public or private?

Redshirting spring birthdays is uncommon in DC area - except for a handful of private schools. And maybe this batch of covid Kindergarteners.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure it would be hard to have a 20 year old senior, fortunately that doesn’t really happen.

There are plenty of 19 year old seniors. Way to old. Especially when some start high school at 13.

If they are 19 during their senior year then they have a fall/spring birthday and were redshirted one year. It's uncommon for fall/spring birthday kids to be redshirted.

So not "plenty".

It is common for spring birthdays, don’t be naive.

Not in the DC area - except for maybe a handful of privates.

+1 I've been a public school teacher in the DC area for 28 years; spring birthday redshirts are definitely rare.

2 neighbors have April birthdays who are both redshirted and my child has a classmate who has a February birthday who is also redshirted.

Where is this?

Did they just start K? Maybe parents were worried about covid since they didn’t have vaccine last fall.

These are all teenage kids so no, not covid related.

Where is this? DC area? Public or private?

Redshirting spring birthdays is uncommon in DC area - except for a handful of private schools. And maybe this batch of covid Kindergarteners.

Yes, dc area and both public and private. No, it is not uncommon, it has been our experience since preschool and I work in the school system. It’s absurd.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure it would be hard to have a 20 year old senior, fortunately that doesn’t really happen.

There are plenty of 19 year old seniors. Way to old. Especially when some start high school at 13.

If they are 19 during their senior year then they have a fall/spring birthday and were redshirted one year. It's uncommon for fall/spring birthday kids to be redshirted.

So not "plenty".

It is common for spring birthdays, don’t be naive.

Not in the DC area - except for maybe a handful of privates.

+1 I've been a public school teacher in the DC area for 28 years; spring birthday redshirts are definitely rare.

2 neighbors have April birthdays who are both redshirted and my child has a classmate who has a February birthday who is also redshirted.

Where is this?

Did they just start K? Maybe parents were worried about covid since they didn’t have vaccine last fall.

DP, but my rising 9th grader has a school friend who turned 15 in May of 8th grade (private) and a sports friend who will turn 15 in March of 8th grade next year (public) suburban MoCo. These kids are around.

Still pretty uncommon but more common in private schools, which often have their own “unofficial” cutoffs. Most redshirted kids have summer birthdays so they are 6 for all of K, 14 for all of 8th grade, 18 for all of senior year, etc.

There are plenty of non-summer redshirted children who I deal with.

"Deal with" them in what capacity? In what location?

Very uncommon in the DC area - except for handful of privates or maybe covid Ks.