Another gunman, another elementary school

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Anonymous wrote:Texas Tribune update: it’s now 18 children and 3 adults dead in Uvalde elementary school shooting


And in two days Abbott is going to speak at the NRA conference just a few hundred miles from where this happened. Apparently 18 dead children and 3 dead adults is an acceptable sacrifice for some extra campaign $$.
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Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to come up with a brilliant hashtag. Something along the lines of with us or against us. Or “we’ll give up assault rifles to protect children”, but much catchier. #real men don’t need gun shows. # one handgun is enough for my household. Too young to drink = too young to carry. Something. Pastors, country stars, athletes, ceos, car dealerships, nascar drivers, local anchorpeople…they need to be forced to take a stand on social. Who could have predicted the saturation and mainstream acceptance of Black Lives Matter or Pride? Momentum is so desperately needed.


This is actually a good suggestion. I am impressed that you can say something constructive. I am numb. There have been 215 mass shootings this year, and we are in May.


Like #MeToo? Give me a break. Hashtag activism is performative BS.
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Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to come up with a brilliant hashtag. Something along the lines of with us or against us. Or “we’ll give up assault rifles to protect children”, but much catchier. #real men don’t need gun shows. # one handgun is enough for my household. Too young to drink = too young to carry. Something. Pastors, country stars, athletes, ceos, car dealerships, nascar drivers, local anchorpeople…they need to be forced to take a stand on social. Who could have predicted the saturation and mainstream acceptance of Black Lives Matter or Pride? Momentum is so desperately needed.


This is actually a good suggestion. I am impressed that you can say something constructive. I am numb. There have been 215 mass shootings this year, and we are in May.


Like #MeToo? Give me a break. Hashtag activism is performative BS.


It is just one part of starting to change the narrative and creating a stigma around guns.
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Anonymous wrote:Texas Tribune update: it’s now 18 children and 3 adults dead in Uvalde elementary school shooting


And in two days Abbott is going to speak at the NRA conference just a few hundred miles from where this happened. Apparently 18 dead children and 3 dead adults is an acceptable sacrifice for some extra campaign $$.


The NYT article I just read said Trump and Ted Cruz are also speaking at the NRA conference. What will be the company line at that echo chamber event?
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Anonymous wrote:Texas Tribune update: it’s now 18 children and 3 adults dead in Uvalde elementary school shooting


And in two days Abbott is going to speak at the NRA conference just a few hundred miles from where this happened. Apparently 18 dead children and 3 dead adults is an acceptable sacrifice for some extra campaign $$.


The NYT article I just read said Trump and Ted Cruz are also speaking at the NRA conference. What will be the company line at that echo chamber event?


Immigration control and mental health services.


And arming teachers. Texas AG already said this today.
Anonymous


Anyone who supports gun rights is a MURDERER.

If they also claim to be pro-life, they are a massive hypocrite.

If they also claim to be Christian, or belonging to any religion where killing is an interdict from God, they are traitors to their faith.


And the most despicable among them are the ones who profit from guns: the manufacturers, the gun stores and events, the hunting communities, the NRA and all the profiteering lobbies. And above all, the worse of the worse, are the elected representatives and lawmakers who are ethically bound to serve Americans, yet instead have accepted the 30 pieces of silver from gun lobbies, and strive to stay in power and freeze life-saving legislation. They have blood on their hands and should face retribution.


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I come from a hunting family. We hunt on horseback with a pack of hounds.


We support a nearly total ban on firearms, even if it means no guns for us.






+1000. Here, here. I'm the ex-military PP. I'm with you 1000%.


If we ban firearms, how do we ensure the bad guys turn theirs in?


You can require a license to buy ammo or the components to pack your own. Also there are ways to identify and track purchases of bullets after they have been fired.


Here we go again with a C word - "can." I think you meant "ought to." Because it's not happening. The sooner people get realistic and pragmatic, the sooner school boards across America can start making plans, and following them through with completed action, to keep kids safe. Like: Plan - metal detectors. Budget, find contractor, install. That simple. Rather than whining and wishing and nothing getting accomplished and kids dying.


Of course, because a metal detector is definitely enough to stop a psycho that shows up at a school with a weapon of war. 🙄🙄🙄

The magical thinking, the complete lack of common sense and logic, this is such an American phenomenon.


Metal detectors do work. How many mass shootings happen in airports or courts? Don't play coy. They absolutely do work.


I just told you, the vast majority of courthouses in America DO NOT HAVE METAL DETECTORS at entrances. There have been numerous courthouse shootings in America. Educate yourself.

HOW WILL WE PAY FOR METAL DETECTORS AND THE MULTIPLE OFFICERS REQUIRED TO STAFF THEM AT THOUSANDS OF SCHOOLS ACROSS THE USA?! Put up or shut up.


Most counties and cities place bond or whatever referendums on ballots to finance improvements to schools or other large school expenditures. They would not need to be staffed, although an officer at each school would be even better. These size of expenditures are run of the mill. Nothing extraordinary at all.

I'm sorry you hold false beliefs that a metal detector does not deter gun carrying.


Are you some kind of troll?

A metal detector is USELESS without at least two armed staffing officers. Who would respond when the detector goes off?!?! You think the person set on mass murder at the school is just going to hear the alarm and say ‘oh whoops ya got me’ and drop their arsenal and handcuff themselves?!

You are either an idiot or a piece of excrement, arguing such ridiculously stupid things in the face of MURDERED ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN. Seriously, GFY.


1) Deterrent. There's things called deterrents. It's a real thing. Not all crime is prevented by police officers.

2) Can man them with officers.

Deterrents and officers are both mainstay tools used to fight crime all over the country. There is nothing new about it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A text from a relative who once said gun control was the #1 political issue to consider:

Me: Gun control is the most important issue in this country

Relative: I agree. That and getting Biden and the democrats out of the White House

So it’s not just the gun nuts.


It could be read as "making sure there are no gun control laws passed" is the most important issue... Your relative doesn't really clarify one way or the other.
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Just heard on CNN the grandma is now dead, is this true?
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Anonymous wrote:Texas Tribune update: it’s now 18 children and 3 adults dead in Uvalde elementary school shooting


And in two days Abbott is going to speak at the NRA conference just a few hundred miles from where this happened. Apparently 18 dead children and 3 dead adults is an acceptable sacrifice for some extra campaign $$.


The NYT article I just read said Trump and Ted Cruz are also speaking at the NRA conference. What will be the company line at that echo chamber event?


Immigration control and mental health services.


And arming teachers. Texas AG already said this today.

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1) Deterrent. There's things called deterrents. It's a real thing. Not all crime is prevented by police officers.

2) Can man them with officers.

Deterrents and officers are both mainstay tools used to fight crime all over the country. There is nothing new about it.


Listen to yourself. Why? Why? WHY SHOULD OUR CHILDREN HAVE TO GO TO SCHOOL WITH OFFICERS AND MAGNATOMETERS? Listen to yourself. Why not start with changing the culture? Guns are bad and dangerous..
Anonymous
Write to her. She is the ghoul who heads NRA.


Carolyn Dodgen Meadows is an American conservative activist, currently serving as president of the National Rifle Association. She was elected the organization's president in April 2019 after then-president Oliver North was forced out of the position.
Born: 1938 (age 84 years), Cobb County, GA
Children: 3
Party: Republican Party
Education: Georgia State University
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I come from a hunting family. We hunt on horseback with a pack of hounds.


We support a nearly total ban on firearms, even if it means no guns for us.






+1000. Here, here. I'm the ex-military PP. I'm with you 1000%.


If we ban firearms, how do we ensure the bad guys turn theirs in?


You can require a license to buy ammo or the components to pack your own. Also there are ways to identify and track purchases of bullets after they have been fired.


Here we go again with a C word - "can." I think you meant "ought to." Because it's not happening. The sooner people get realistic and pragmatic, the sooner school boards across America can start making plans, and following them through with completed action, to keep kids safe. Like: Plan - metal detectors. Budget, find contractor, install. That simple. Rather than whining and wishing and nothing getting accomplished and kids dying.


Of course, because a metal detector is definitely enough to stop a psycho that shows up at a school with a weapon of war. 🙄🙄🙄

The magical thinking, the complete lack of common sense and logic, this is such an American phenomenon.


Metal detectors do work. How many mass shootings happen in airports or courts? Don't play coy. They absolutely do work.


I just told you, the vast majority of courthouses in America DO NOT HAVE METAL DETECTORS at entrances. There have been numerous courthouse shootings in America. Educate yourself.

HOW WILL WE PAY FOR METAL DETECTORS AND THE MULTIPLE OFFICERS REQUIRED TO STAFF THEM AT THOUSANDS OF SCHOOLS ACROSS THE USA?! Put up or shut up.


Most counties and cities place bond or whatever referendums on ballots to finance improvements to schools or other large school expenditures. They would not need to be staffed, although an officer at each school would be even better. These size of expenditures are run of the mill. Nothing extraordinary at all.

I'm sorry you hold false beliefs that a metal detector does not deter gun carrying.


Are you some kind of troll?

A metal detector is USELESS without at least two armed staffing officers. Who would respond when the detector goes off?!?! You think the person set on mass murder at the school is just going to hear the alarm and say ‘oh whoops ya got me’ and drop their arsenal and handcuff themselves?!

You are either an idiot or a piece of excrement, arguing such ridiculously stupid things in the face of MURDERED ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN. Seriously, GFY.


The pp is the problem. For too long hard-working good people have let pp have their say and way. It is time to confront these losers and say no more of your Idiocracy.
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Anonymous wrote:Texas Tribune update: it’s now 18 children and 3 adults dead in Uvalde elementary school shooting


And in two days Abbott is going to speak at the NRA conference just a few hundred miles from where this happened. Apparently 18 dead children and 3 dead adults is an acceptable sacrifice for some extra campaign $$.


The NYT article I just read said Trump and Ted Cruz are also speaking at the NRA conference. What will be the company line at that echo chamber event?


Immigration control and mental health services.


And arming teachers. Texas AG already said this today.


Two school resource officers engaged with the shooter, but he still got into the school and killed 18.

Half of TX school districts allow teachers to carry a firearm.

Neither work to stop school shootings. Why do Republicans keep lying?
Anonymous


The CEO of NRA who hunts elephants. Perhaps someone should write to him and appeal to his humanity?
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