School Board Meeting 9/23

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Karl Frisch has gone to the mat on exactly two issues during his tenure on the SB: saving a dog park and defending library books depicting gay sex acts involving children. What a quality guy.

Hey that was MY dog park. Karl’s alright with me!

Yeah. Score one for Fido. Shrevewood kids weren’t so lucky.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Karl Frisch has gone to the mat on exactly two issues during his tenure on the SB: saving a dog park and defending library books depicting gay sex acts involving children. What a quality guy.

Better than you…pushing misinformation!

We’ll see whether KF has any type of political career left when parents look back on his comments and behavior.

Which comments specifically?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good for Karl Frisch for standing by his principles and vigorously defending these quality publications.

Yes! And fighting against the homophobia and misinformation.

Very courageous to stand up for our child’s right to look at graphic images of fourth grade bjs! Thank you Karl! The world is a better place and kids are so much more enriched with you at the table.

This is NOT a graphic novel.

[Anonymous]

This is NOT a graphic novel.

Two books are being discussed. One of them is a graphic novel--with disturbing pics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good for Karl Frisch for standing by his principles and vigorously defending these quality publications.

Yes! And fighting against the homophobia and misinformation.

Very courageous to stand up for our child’s right to look at graphic images of fourth grade bjs! Thank you Karl! The world is a better place and kids are so much more enriched with you at the table.

History is really not on your side, dope. When has book banning ever gone well? You have NEVER read the books and you’re not even remotely accurate. You don’t care though because you’re just stoking the outrage fire as intended.

So the school libraries should be able to stock ANY book and it "won't go well" if a group of parents want it removed?

What an interesting perspective.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good for Karl Frisch for standing by his principles and vigorously defending these quality publications.

Yes! And fighting against the homophobia and misinformation.

Very courageous to stand up for our child’s right to look at graphic images of fourth grade bjs! Thank you Karl! The world is a better place and kids are so much more enriched with you at the table.

History is really not on your side, dope. When has book banning ever gone well? You have NEVER read the books and you’re not even remotely accurate. You don’t care though because you’re just stoking the outrage fire as intended.

So the school libraries should be able to stock ANY book and it "won't go well" if a group of parents want it removed?

What an interesting perspective.

No, it doesn’t go well when a bunch of credulous dupes are screaming for books to be removed…when they HAVENT EVEN READ ThE BOOKS. I stand by my assertion that that never does well, no.

Any parent can initiate a book challenge after readings book in its entirety. Removing books from library shelves isn’t usually hook banning…it’s called “weeding” and it happens every year when school librarians remove books that are outdated, damaged, or no longer suitable for the collection. A book may be reconsidered through the challenge process and a committee may decide that it is no longer suitable. That is VERY different than showing up at a School Board meeting for a political stunt, cherry picking quotes and completely mischaracterizing them to stoke maximum outrage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good for Karl Frisch for standing by his principles and vigorously defending these quality publications.

Yes! And fighting against the homophobia and misinformation.

Very courageous to stand up for our child’s right to look at graphic images of fourth grade bjs! Thank you Karl! The world is a better place and kids are so much more enriched with you at the table.

History is really not on your side, dope. When has book banning ever gone well? You have NEVER read the books and you’re not even remotely accurate. You don’t care though because you’re just stoking the outrage fire as intended.

So the school libraries should be able to stock ANY book and it "won't go well" if a group of parents want it removed?

What an interesting perspective.

No, it doesn’t go well when a bunch of credulous dupes are screaming for books to be removed…when they HAVENT EVEN READ ThE BOOKS. I stand by my assertion that that never does well, no.

Any parent can initiate a book challenge after readings book in its entirety. Removing books from library shelves isn’t usually hook banning…it’s called “weeding” and it happens every year when school librarians remove books that are outdated, damaged, or no longer suitable for the collection. A book may be reconsidered through the challenge process and a committee may decide that it is no longer suitable. That is VERY different than showing up at a School Board meeting for a political stunt, cherry picking quotes and completely mischaracterizing them to stoke maximum outrage.

Boo hoo. I’m more concerned about the radical and perverted ideas that FCPS seems intent on “planting” than strict adherence to your “weeding” protocol. It’s not like this School Board doesn’t routinely disregard existing procedures when it serves their own agendas.

[Anonymous]

I guess the woke went too far
https://www.localdvm.com/news/virginia/fairfax-co-public-schools-removes-two-books-after-heated-school-board-meeting/amp/

Liberals lost on this one, better luck next time

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess the woke went too far
https://www.localdvm.com/news/virginia/fairfax-co-public-schools-removes-two-books-after-heated-school-board-meeting/amp/

Liberals lost on this one, better luck next time

It's not over. They will be "reviewed." Prediction: Lawn Boy will survive. Not so sure about the graphic novel.

My opinion, FWIW: Just because they "can" put these in our school libraries does not mean they "should."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Karl Frisch has gone to the mat on exactly two issues during his tenure on the SB: saving a dog park and defending library books depicting gay sex acts involving children. What a quality guy.

Hey that was MY dog park. Karl’s alright with me!

Yeah. Score one for Fido. Shrevewood kids weren’t so lucky.

Karl Frisch doesn't have children and clearly thinks dogs are more important.

I don't know why you people think school board members are supposed to work for the interests of children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess the woke went too far
https://www.localdvm.com/news/virginia/fairfax-co-public-schools-removes-two-books-after-heated-school-board-meeting/amp/

Liberals lost on this one, better luck next time

It's not over. They will be "reviewed." Prediction: Lawn Boy will survive. Not so sure about the graphic novel.

My opinion, FWIW: Just because they "can" put these in our school libraries does not mean they "should."

It’s ok for parents to be concerned about books. FCPS even has a review process in place for such concerns. And parents always have the choice to exclude specific books for their own children.

It’s not ok for parents to throw tantrums at SB meetings and it’s certainly not OK to push misinformation.

[Anonymous]

It’s ok for parents to be concerned about books. FCPS even has a review process in place for such concerns. And parents always have the choice to exclude specific books for their own children.

It’s not ok for parents to throw tantrums at SB meetings and it’s certainly not OK to push misinformation.

After hearing the mom speak at the SB meeting, I researched (for about thirty minutes) on how to protest books in the library. While it is front and center now, it was not front and center on Friday morning. (FCPS really needs to update their search engine on the SB site and on the system site). I was unable to find the information until I posted on here and someone posted the information. It should not be that hard to find it. I have not looked again, but I have not seen the information on the names of the persons on the committee. It is not listed under SB committees.

Of course, now that the SB has put out a statement, the information is more readily available--but not the names of the standing committee. And, this review committee set up is not the same as the standing committee.

And, FWIW, are the high school students selected for this review minors or will they be 18 years old?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess the woke went too far
https://www.localdvm.com/news/virginia/fairfax-co-public-schools-removes-two-books-after-heated-school-board-meeting/amp/

Liberals lost on this one, better luck next time

It's not over. They will be "reviewed." Prediction: Lawn Boy will survive. Not so sure about the graphic novel.

My opinion, FWIW: Just because they "can" put these in our school libraries does not mean they "should."

It’s ok for parents to be concerned about books. FCPS even has a review process in place for such concerns. And parents always have the choice to exclude specific books for their own children.

It’s not ok for parents to throw tantrums at SB meetings and it’s certainly not OK to push misinformation.

Reading from a book available in a county school at a county school board meeting hardly counts as throwing a tantrum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

It’s ok for parents to be concerned about books. FCPS even has a review process in place for such concerns. And parents always have the choice to exclude specific books for their own children.

It’s not ok for parents to throw tantrums at SB meetings and it’s certainly not OK to push misinformation.

After hearing the mom speak at the SB meeting, I researched (for about thirty minutes) on how to protest books in the library. While it is front and center now, it was not front and center on Friday morning. (FCPS really needs to update their search engine on the SB site and on the system site). I was unable to find the information until I posted on here and someone posted the information. It should not be that hard to find it. I have not looked again, but I have not seen the information on the names of the persons on the committee. It is not listed under SB committees.

Of course, now that the SB has put out a statement, the information is more readily available--but not the names of the standing committee. And, this review committee set up is not the same as the standing committee.

And, FWIW, are the high school students selected for this review minors or will they be 18 years old?

Reading the FCPS press release is fundamental. They will be 18+

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess the woke went too far
https://www.localdvm.com/news/virginia/fairfax-co-public-schools-removes-two-books-after-heated-school-board-meeting/amp/

Liberals lost on this one, better luck next time

It's not over. They will be "reviewed." Prediction: Lawn Boy will survive. Not so sure about the graphic novel.

My opinion, FWIW: Just because they "can" put these in our school libraries does not mean they "should."

It’s ok for parents to be concerned about books. FCPS even has a review process in place for such concerns. And parents always have the choice to exclude specific books for their own children.

It’s not ok for parents to throw tantrums at SB meetings and it’s certainly not OK to push misinformation.

Reading from a book available in a county school at a county school board meeting hardly counts as throwing a tantrum.

No, this was a performative tantrum. Genuine and appropriate concern starts by talking with the school librarian and school admin. Who acknowledge your concerns and point you to the book review committee. Then you file a challenge with the committee and seeing what they say. It does not involve cherry-picking a page out of two books out of thousands and going straight for shock value at a SB meeting. You do that to make a scene and make headlines. I don’t care that she objected. I care that she immediately escalated to the SB in the most dramatic way possible. And in the end, thenSB did exactly what the librarian would have done— referred it to the committee. Same result. More headlines.

And because the material is graphic, I don’t appreciate it being broadcast with no warning into every household with ES aged kids who might be present watching the livestream.

All of us get ticked off at FCPs policies and decisions. And most of us escalate concerns appropriately. Otherwise, you’d have 100,000 parents pitching temper tantrums at the SB level for things that can be dealt with at the school level. This SB cannot walk and chew gum at the same time. And the time it takes for them to deal with this crap is time they aren’t dealing with improving quarantine and isolation, livestreams to kids with COVID, a testing protocol, and test to stay.