What happened to this California family?

[Anonymous]

First time poster, could he have had a heart attack? Not old, nut older guy carrying the baby I’m that heat and terrain.

I can’t fully build out a scenario to the rest of the, sounds like she may have add some mental health issues, so she panicked or melted down and couldn’t calmly handle his medical emergency leading to deaths of the other three?

I know, probably unlikely, but a thought.

[Anonymous]

I thought the same, older, weight seemed to fluctuate, high effort steep trail in heat, etc. I think heat exhaustion / heat stroke can cause cardiac events.

Very sad.

[Anonymous]

I hope to god nothing mysterious ever leads to my demise and a bunch of keyboard warrior idiots start speculating about it, combing through my life and scrutinizing every tiny minuscule detail I did or did not do…like, god forbid, not posting a picture of my child on Instagram for 7 months. I haven’t posted a picture on Instagram of my child for 2+ years, so I MUST be some depressive, suicidal, and deranged maniac plotting ways to murder my family.

Should anyone find out I stopped drinking coffee a bit of time ago, I wonder what kind of speculation would THAT lead to: SHE HAS TOURETTES AND A TOUCAN SWOOPED DOWN AND KNOCKED HER WITH IT’S BEAK, CAUSING COGNITIVE DIFFICULTIES AND AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR — SHE MURDERED HER FAMILY!!!!!!!

Jesus Christ. Get a grip people. Webslueths is full of a bunch of idiots without a single rational thought, no ability to logically reason, and possessing zero critical thinking skills. They’re almost always wrong and never right and they literally double down on their bogus theories when the evidence proves their level of bogus-ness is more than previously thought. Hey if no one else will say it, I will. Turn that crazy train around and redirect it right back to where you came from, Websluethers.

Anyway - I’m placing my bets on: they got stuck by lightning. There were warnings in place for the Sierra National Forest preceding their hike and the warnings extended to multiple days. You can also look up lightning strike archives for different areas around the the world and although some strikes may not be recorded or may be missed, on that date and in that area it does show activity. A thunderstorm is not required for lightning to occur, either, despite the misconception so for those who will say there were no storms in the area have little to back up their claim. It all makes sense of you understand anything about how lightning works, even down to the position he was found in. For example: Absent any shelter, and in an open field/area without any other options, it’s recommended (limited to one’s options, obv) to sit on the ground - yes, sit and not lay as it’s less contact with the ground - with something between you and ground if you can…like a blanket, coat, anything. (I’m not making the claim that he had anything between him and the ground - I’m just clarifying what is recommended when you have no options, and it’s recommended because lightning is electricity - it always wants to find ground, so the less contact the better.) It’s also recommended to spread out in the event one gets struck, the other doesn’t also. The baby and dog limit their ability to do this fully, but it explains the couple being apart. Further, a direct strike is rare. Most people who get struck by lightning is from an indirect strike, like it hitting an object and dispersing on the ground beneath, which explains my first point about wanting the least amount of contact with the ground which is why you don’t want to lay down. It also can paralyze you momentarily (think of what happens if you’ve ever been shocked before), which I’m speculating on this next part but I would think if your heart stops in that moment (cardiac arrest is the cause of death regarding lightning strikes), you’d pass in that position. Lastly, experts have said that the low statistics for being struck by lightning are dramatically underestimated and it’s far more likely than is stated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope to god nothing mysterious ever leads to my demise and a bunch of keyboard warrior idiots start speculating about it, combing through my life and scrutinizing every tiny minuscule detail I did or did not do…like, god forbid, not posting a picture of my child on Instagram for 7 months. I haven’t posted a picture on Instagram of my child for 2+ years, so I MUST be some depressive, suicidal, and deranged maniac plotting ways to murder my family.

Should anyone find out I stopped drinking coffee a bit of time ago, I wonder what kind of speculation would THAT lead to: SHE HAS TOURETTES AND A TOUCAN SWOOPED DOWN AND KNOCKED HER WITH IT’S BEAK, CAUSING COGNITIVE DIFFICULTIES AND AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR — SHE MURDERED HER FAMILY!!!!!!!

Jesus Christ. Get a grip people. Webslueths is full of a bunch of idiots without a single rational thought, no ability to logically reason, and possessing zero critical thinking skills. They’re almost always wrong and never right and they literally double down on their bogus theories when the evidence proves their level of bogus-ness is more than previously thought. Hey if no one else will say it, I will. Turn that crazy train around and redirect it right back to where you came from, Websluethers.

Anyway - I’m placing my bets on: they got stuck by lightning. There were warnings in place for the Sierra National Forest preceding their hike and the warnings extended to multiple days. You can also look up lightning strike archives for different areas around the the world and although some strikes may not be recorded or may be missed, on that date and in that area it does show activity. A thunderstorm is not required for lightning to occur, either, despite the misconception so for those who will say there were no storms in the area have little to back up their claim. It all makes sense of you understand anything about how lightning works, even down to the position he was found in. For example: Absent any shelter, and in an open field/area without any other options, it’s recommended (limited to one’s options, obv) to sit on the ground - yes, sit and not lay as it’s less contact with the ground - with something between you and ground if you can…like a blanket, coat, anything. (I’m not making the claim that he had anything between him and the ground - I’m just clarifying what is recommended when you have no options, and it’s recommended because lightning is electricity - it always wants to find ground, so the less contact the better.) It’s also recommended to spread out in the event one gets struck, the other doesn’t also. The baby and dog limit their ability to do this fully, but it explains the couple being apart. Further, a direct strike is rare. Most people who get struck by lightning is from an indirect strike, like it hitting an object and dispersing on the ground beneath, which explains my first point about wanting the least amount of contact with the ground which is why you don’t want to lay down. It also can paralyze you momentarily (think of what happens if you’ve ever been shocked before), which I’m speculating on this next part but I would think if your heart stops in that moment (cardiac arrest is the cause of death regarding lightning strikes), you’d pass in that position. Lastly, experts have said that the low statistics for being struck by lightning are dramatically underestimated and it’s far more likely than is stated.

I think you mean two lightning strikes. The couple were separated by 30 yards. Ground currents from an indirect strike disappate quickly in the earth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope to god nothing mysterious ever leads to my demise and a bunch of keyboard warrior idiots start speculating about it, combing through my life and scrutinizing every tiny minuscule detail I did or did not do…like, god forbid, not posting a picture of my child on Instagram for 7 months. I haven’t posted a picture on Instagram of my child for 2+ years, so I MUST be some depressive, suicidal, and deranged maniac plotting ways to murder my family.

Should anyone find out I stopped drinking coffee a bit of time ago, I wonder what kind of speculation would THAT lead to: SHE HAS TOURETTES AND A TOUCAN SWOOPED DOWN AND KNOCKED HER WITH IT’S BEAK, CAUSING COGNITIVE DIFFICULTIES AND AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR — SHE MURDERED HER FAMILY!!!!!!!

Jesus Christ. Get a grip people. Webslueths is full of a bunch of idiots without a single rational thought, no ability to logically reason, and possessing zero critical thinking skills. They’re almost always wrong and never right and they literally double down on their bogus theories when the evidence proves their level of bogus-ness is more than previously thought. Hey if no one else will say it, I will. Turn that crazy train around and redirect it right back to where you came from, Websluethers.

Anyway - I’m placing my bets on: they got stuck by lightning. There were warnings in place for the Sierra National Forest preceding their hike and the warnings extended to multiple days. You can also look up lightning strike archives for different areas around the the world and although some strikes may not be recorded or may be missed, on that date and in that area it does show activity. A thunderstorm is not required for lightning to occur, either, despite the misconception so for those who will say there were no storms in the area have little to back up their claim. It all makes sense of you understand anything about how lightning works, even down to the position he was found in. For example: Absent any shelter, and in an open field/area without any other options, it’s recommended (limited to one’s options, obv) to sit on the ground - yes, sit and not lay as it’s less contact with the ground - with something between you and ground if you can…like a blanket, coat, anything. (I’m not making the claim that he had anything between him and the ground - I’m just clarifying what is recommended when you have no options, and it’s recommended because lightning is electricity - it always wants to find ground, so the less contact the better.) It’s also recommended to spread out in the event one gets struck, the other doesn’t also. The baby and dog limit their ability to do this fully, but it explains the couple being apart. Further, a direct strike is rare. Most people who get struck by lightning is from an indirect strike, like it hitting an object and dispersing on the ground beneath, which explains my first point about wanting the least amount of contact with the ground which is why you don’t want to lay down. It also can paralyze you momentarily (think of what happens if you’ve ever been shocked before), which I’m speculating on this next part but I would think if your heart stops in that moment (cardiac arrest is the cause of death regarding lightning strikes), you’d pass in that position. Lastly, experts have said that the low statistics for being struck by lightning are dramatically underestimated and it’s far more likely than is stated.

Yet oddly, the lightening left not a single mark on them nor anything around them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope to god nothing mysterious ever leads to my demise and a bunch of keyboard warrior idiots start speculating about it, combing through my life and scrutinizing every tiny minuscule detail I did or did not do…like, god forbid, not posting a picture of my child on Instagram for 7 months. I haven’t posted a picture on Instagram of my child for 2+ years, so I MUST be some depressive, suicidal, and deranged maniac plotting ways to murder my family.

Should anyone find out I stopped drinking coffee a bit of time ago, I wonder what kind of speculation would THAT lead to: SHE HAS TOURETTES AND A TOUCAN SWOOPED DOWN AND KNOCKED HER WITH IT’S BEAK, CAUSING COGNITIVE DIFFICULTIES AND AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR — SHE MURDERED HER FAMILY!!!!!!!

Jesus Christ. Get a grip people. Webslueths is full of a bunch of idiots without a single rational thought, no ability to logically reason, and possessing zero critical thinking skills. They’re almost always wrong and never right and they literally double down on their bogus theories when the evidence proves their level of bogus-ness is more than previously thought. Hey if no one else will say it, I will. Turn that crazy train around and redirect it right back to where you came from, Websluethers.

Anyway - I’m placing my bets on: they got stuck by lightning. There were warnings in place for the Sierra National Forest preceding their hike and the warnings extended to multiple days. You can also look up lightning strike archives for different areas around the the world and although some strikes may not be recorded or may be missed, on that date and in that area it does show activity. A thunderstorm is not required for lightning to occur, either, despite the misconception so for those who will say there were no storms in the area have little to back up their claim. It all makes sense of you understand anything about how lightning works, even down to the position he was found in. For example: Absent any shelter, and in an open field/area without any other options, it’s recommended (limited to one’s options, obv) to sit on the ground - yes, sit and not lay as it’s less contact with the ground - with something between you and ground if you can…like a blanket, coat, anything. (I’m not making the claim that he had anything between him and the ground - I’m just clarifying what is recommended when you have no options, and it’s recommended because lightning is electricity - it always wants to find ground, so the less contact the better.) It’s also recommended to spread out in the event one gets struck, the other doesn’t also. The baby and dog limit their ability to do this fully, but it explains the couple being apart. Further, a direct strike is rare. Most people who get struck by lightning is from an indirect strike, like it hitting an object and dispersing on the ground beneath, which explains my first point about wanting the least amount of contact with the ground which is why you don’t want to lay down. It also can paralyze you momentarily (think of what happens if you’ve ever been shocked before), which I’m speculating on this next part but I would think if your heart stops in that moment (cardiac arrest is the cause of death regarding lightning strikes), you’d pass in that position. Lastly, experts have said that the low statistics for being struck by lightning are dramatically underestimated and it’s far more likely than is stated.

You were doing so well in the first three paragraphs.... then you went off on a crazy rant based on your own made up facts.

[Anonymous]

LE ruled out lightning strike anyway...

https://sierranewsonline.com/update-mariposa-sheriffs-office-gerrish-chung-investigation/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope to god nothing mysterious ever leads to my demise and a bunch of keyboard warrior idiots start speculating about it, combing through my life and scrutinizing every tiny minuscule detail I did or did not do…like, god forbid, not posting a picture of my child on Instagram for 7 months. I haven’t posted a picture on Instagram of my child for 2+ years, so I MUST be some depressive, suicidal, and deranged maniac plotting ways to murder my family.

Should anyone find out I stopped drinking coffee a bit of time ago, I wonder what kind of speculation would THAT lead to: SHE HAS TOURETTES AND A TOUCAN SWOOPED DOWN AND KNOCKED HER WITH IT’S BEAK, CAUSING COGNITIVE DIFFICULTIES AND AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR — SHE MURDERED HER FAMILY!!!!!!!

Jesus Christ. Get a grip people. Webslueths is full of a bunch of idiots without a single rational thought, no ability to logically reason, and possessing zero critical thinking skills. They’re almost always wrong and never right and they literally double down on their bogus theories when the evidence proves their level of bogus-ness is more than previously thought. Hey if no one else will say it, I will. Turn that crazy train around and redirect it right back to where you came from, Websluethers.

Anyway - I’m placing my bets on: they got stuck by lightning. There were warnings in place for the Sierra National Forest preceding their hike and the warnings extended to multiple days. You can also look up lightning strike archives for different areas around the the world and although some strikes may not be recorded or may be missed, on that date and in that area it does show activity. A thunderstorm is not required for lightning to occur, either, despite the misconception so for those who will say there were no storms in the area have little to back up their claim. It all makes sense of you understand anything about how lightning works, even down to the position he was found in. For example: Absent any shelter, and in an open field/area without any other options, it’s recommended (limited to one’s options, obv) to sit on the ground - yes, sit and not lay as it’s less contact with the ground - with something between you and ground if you can…like a blanket, coat, anything. (I’m not making the claim that he had anything between him and the ground - I’m just clarifying what is recommended when you have no options, and it’s recommended because lightning is electricity - it always wants to find ground, so the less contact the better.) It’s also recommended to spread out in the event one gets struck, the other doesn’t also. The baby and dog limit their ability to do this fully, but it explains the couple being apart. Further, a direct strike is rare. Most people who get struck by lightning is from an indirect strike, like it hitting an object and dispersing on the ground beneath, which explains my first point about wanting the least amount of contact with the ground which is why you don’t want to lay down. It also can paralyze you momentarily (think of what happens if you’ve ever been shocked before), which I’m speculating on this next part but I would think if your heart stops in that moment (cardiac arrest is the cause of death regarding lightning strikes), you’d pass in that position. Lastly, experts have said that the low statistics for being struck by lightning are dramatically underestimated and it’s far more likely than is stated.

You were doing so well in the first three paragraphs.... then you went off on a crazy rant based on your own made up facts.

This has to be one of the funniest things I’ve read here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope to god nothing mysterious ever leads to my demise and a bunch of keyboard warrior idiots start speculating about it, combing through my life and scrutinizing every tiny minuscule detail I did or did not do…like, god forbid, not posting a picture of my child on Instagram for 7 months. I haven’t posted a picture on Instagram of my child for 2+ years, so I MUST be some depressive, suicidal, and deranged maniac plotting ways to murder my family.

Should anyone find out I stopped drinking coffee a bit of time ago, I wonder what kind of speculation would THAT lead to: SHE HAS TOURETTES AND A TOUCAN SWOOPED DOWN AND KNOCKED HER WITH IT’S BEAK, CAUSING COGNITIVE DIFFICULTIES AND AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR — SHE MURDERED HER FAMILY!!!!!!!

Jesus Christ. Get a grip people. Webslueths is full of a bunch of idiots without a single rational thought, no ability to logically reason, and possessing zero critical thinking skills. They’re almost always wrong and never right and they literally double down on their bogus theories when the evidence proves their level of bogus-ness is more than previously thought. Hey if no one else will say it, I will. Turn that crazy train around and redirect it right back to where you came from, Websluethers.

Anyway - I’m placing my bets on: they got stuck by lightning. There were warnings in place for the Sierra National Forest preceding their hike and the warnings extended to multiple days. You can also look up lightning strike archives for different areas around the the world and although some strikes may not be recorded or may be missed, on that date and in that area it does show activity. A thunderstorm is not required for lightning to occur, either, despite the misconception so for those who will say there were no storms in the area have little to back up their claim. It all makes sense of you understand anything about how lightning works, even down to the position he was found in. For example: Absent any shelter, and in an open field/area without any other options, it’s recommended (limited to one’s options, obv) to sit on the ground - yes, sit and not lay as it’s less contact with the ground - with something between you and ground if you can…like a blanket, coat, anything. (I’m not making the claim that he had anything between him and the ground - I’m just clarifying what is recommended when you have no options, and it’s recommended because lightning is electricity - it always wants to find ground, so the less contact the better.) It’s also recommended to spread out in the event one gets struck, the other doesn’t also. The baby and dog limit their ability to do this fully, but it explains the couple being apart. Further, a direct strike is rare. Most people who get struck by lightning is from an indirect strike, like it hitting an object and dispersing on the ground beneath, which explains my first point about wanting the least amount of contact with the ground which is why you don’t want to lay down. It also can paralyze you momentarily (think of what happens if you’ve ever been shocked before), which I’m speculating on this next part but I would think if your heart stops in that moment (cardiac arrest is the cause of death regarding lightning strikes), you’d pass in that position. Lastly, experts have said that the low statistics for being struck by lightning are dramatically underestimated and it’s far more likely than is stated.

What... She get pecked by a Toucan and that made her fruity and loopy!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope to god nothing mysterious ever leads to my demise and a bunch of keyboard warrior idiots start speculating about it, combing through my life and scrutinizing every tiny minuscule detail I did or did not do…like, god forbid, not posting a picture of my child on Instagram for 7 months. I haven’t posted a picture on Instagram of my child for 2+ years, so I MUST be some depressive, suicidal, and deranged maniac plotting ways to murder my family.

Should anyone find out I stopped drinking coffee a bit of time ago, I wonder what kind of speculation would THAT lead to: SHE HAS TOURETTES AND A TOUCAN SWOOPED DOWN AND KNOCKED HER WITH IT’S BEAK, CAUSING COGNITIVE DIFFICULTIES AND AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR — SHE MURDERED HER FAMILY!!!!!!!

Jesus Christ. Get a grip people. Webslueths is full of a bunch of idiots without a single rational thought, no ability to logically reason, and possessing zero critical thinking skills. They’re almost always wrong and never right and they literally double down on their bogus theories when the evidence proves their level of bogus-ness is more than previously thought. Hey if no one else will say it, I will. Turn that crazy train around and redirect it right back to where you came from, Websluethers.

Anyway - I’m placing my bets on: they got stuck by lightning. There were warnings in place for the Sierra National Forest preceding their hike and the warnings extended to multiple days. You can also look up lightning strike archives for different areas around the the world and although some strikes may not be recorded or may be missed, on that date and in that area it does show activity. A thunderstorm is not required for lightning to occur, either, despite the misconception so for those who will say there were no storms in the area have little to back up their claim. It all makes sense of you understand anything about how lightning works, even down to the position he was found in. [b]For example: Absent any shelter, and in an open field/area without any other options, it’s recommended (limited to one’s options, obv) to sit on the ground - yes, sit and not lay as it’s less contact with the ground - with something between you and ground if you can…like a blanket, coat, anything. (I’m not making the claim that he had anything between him and the ground - I’m just clarifying what is recommended when you have no options, and it’s recommended because lightning is electricity - it always wants to find ground, so the less contact the better.) It’s also recommended to spread out in the event one gets struck, the other doesn’t also. The baby and dog limit their ability to do this fully, but it explains the couple being apart. Further, a direct strike is rare. Most people who get struck by lightning is from an indirect strike, like it hitting an object and dispersing on the ground beneath, which explains my first point about wanting the least amount of contact with the ground which is why you don’t want to lay down. It also can paralyze you momentarily (think of what happens if you’ve ever been shocked before), which I’m speculating on this next part but I would think if your heart stops in that moment (cardiac arrest is the cause of death regarding lightning strikes), you’d pass in that position. Lastly, experts have said that the low statistics for being struck by lightning are dramatically underestimated and it’s far more likely than is stated.

You were doing so well in the first three paragraphs.... then you went off on a crazy rant based on your own made up facts.

This has to be one of the funniest things I’ve read here.

This person read the same article I did, re top 10 ways hikers die in National Parks. Lightning strike, drowning, falling, poison plants and gases, weather, etc.,.

Lightning strikes and boys scouts apparently don't mix well, 9 of 12 boy scouts who were camping at an elevation of 10,600 feet in the Sierra Nevada in Kings Sequoia National park were struck by lightning when they took cover in their tents, which were fairly close together near a single rotten tree, were electrocuted when the bolt hit the tree and traveled through the ground. I think 2 died of heart attacks 7 others were injured and were airlifted to a local hospital. This very same scenario has played out in Parks around the country, particularly out west https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/incident-report/incident-reviews/lightning/ and https://products.kitsapsun.com/archive/2005/08-04/60940_lightning_kills_scout_in_utah.html and https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lightning-kills-second-scout/ and https://products.kitsapsun.com/archive/2005/08-04/60940_lightning_kills_scout_in_utah.html Or https://www.budgettravel.com/article/the-5-worst-ways-to-die-in-a-national-park-and-how-to-stay-alive

The Blue Ridge Parkway is one of 3 parks that account for 23% of suicides carried out in Nat'l Parks. It is also in the top 25 for Nat'l parks you are most likely to die in. But by and large Big Western Parks see the most death. Honestly, I don't think there is anything to see here. These folks died of heat exhaustion.

Dad died first. Mom freaked and didn't know what to do other than save herself, got confused, doubled back to get the car keys, and died second. Baby probably died, well because it was a helpless baby. And dog even if it didn't die first likely lay down next to Dad with head in paws and went to sleep and just didn't wake up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LE ruled out lightning strike anyway...

https://sierranewsonline.com/update-mariposa-sheriffs-office-gerrish-chung-investigation/

For those that don't want to follow the link:

"Causes of Death Ruled Out: The following have been ruled out based on evidence recovered or through investigation. ALL other potential causes of death remain.

Gun or any other type of weapon

Lightning Strike

Carbon Monoxide

Carbon Dioxide

Cyanide Exposure

Illegal Drugs / Alcohol

Suicide

No other information is available at this time."

[Anonymous]

So suicide and illegal drugs/alcohol were ruled out. That negates all the fantasizing about how crazy and debauched this couple was (especially Ellen). While their deaths are still tragic, at least the family can take comfort that it wasn’t suicide or drugs.

[Anonymous]

Looks like toxic algae and heat stroke are still contenders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looks like toxic algae and heat stroke are still contenders.

And mass-spontaneous natural causes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like toxic algae and heat stroke are still contenders.

And mass-spontaneous natural causes.

What’s that?