ECNL moving to school year part 2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It seems hard to imagine that MLSN2 doesn’t go SY given that a key aspect of that program involves playing in high school. Then you have the pro academies already playing up this season. And GA going SY. All of these seem like good signs that MLNS1 will go SY at least for P2P. But we shall see.

100%. The fact that they have not come out at this point and confirmed BY, particularly after GA announcing SY, is all you need to know. It will be SY in some form or another. The coach at my kids MLSN team is having a talk with all of the Q4s on the team (all 3) on Weds. I wonder what the topic will be?

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL clubs will provide a nice option for Aug-Dec boys that are MLSN1 non-starters or MLSN2 starters looking to move up in playing time and competition.

That’s assuming MLSN doesn’t also go SY. I know people used to think their silence on the topic meant they weren’t changing, but now, with GA (their partners on the girls side) switching it is pretty obvious they are going to switch things up. Whether that is full SY across the board or just at the P2P clubs, it is coming.

You dont understand that MLS Next wasnt created to be a youth league. It was created to provide MLS pro clubs with cheap local talent. In the pro world grade in school or aligning to a school year has no meaning.

Care to explain why they started MLSN2 and put teams in NAL? And why they bother with MLSN non-Academies P2P at all? Because none of them have anything to do with the pros other than trying to make money off of youth soccer, like everyone else. And we can rule out identifying talent as a reason because players can be picked for MLSN academies from any league.

Pretty simple. Bigger pool of potential players to choose from.

I'm sure multiple P2P clubs want to get involved with MLS but they dont want to run an Academy. The easy way to solve this is MLS2. It's the same thing that happens in other countries with multiple different levels of Academy clubs. The only difference here is that its a mix of Academy and P2P at different levels. Also all players are under MLS contract which means they all funnel up to MLS if theres talent.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL clubs will provide a nice option for Aug-Dec boys that are MLSN1 non-starters or MLSN2 starters looking to move up in playing time and competition.

That’s assuming MLSN doesn’t also go SY. I know people used to think their silence on the topic meant they weren’t changing, but now, with GA (their partners on the girls side) switching it is pretty obvious they are going to switch things up. Whether that is full SY across the board or just at the P2P clubs, it is coming.

You dont understand that MLS Next wasnt created to be a youth league. It was created to provide MLS pro clubs with cheap local talent. In the pro world grade in school or aligning to a school year has no meaning.

Care to explain why they started MLSN2 and put teams in NAL? And why they bother with MLSN non-Academies P2P at all? Because none of them have anything to do with the pros other than trying to make money off of youth soccer, like everyone else. And we can rule out identifying talent as a reason because players can be picked for MLSN academies from any league.

Pretty simple. Bigger pool of potential players to choose from.

I'm sure multiple P2P clubs want to get involved with MLS but they dont want to run an Academy. The easy way to solve this is MLS2. It's the same thing that happens in other countries with multiple different levels of Academy clubs. The only difference here is that its a mix of Academy and P2P at different levels. Also all players are under MLS contract which means they all funnel up to MLS if theres talent.

Congrats! This is the most delusional take in the last 30 pages. You get a special badge just for this.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL clubs will provide a nice option for Aug-Dec boys that are MLSN1 non-starters or MLSN2 starters looking to move up in playing time and competition.

That’s assuming MLSN doesn’t also go SY. I know people used to think their silence on the topic meant they weren’t changing, but now, with GA (their partners on the girls side) switching it is pretty obvious they are going to switch things up. Whether that is full SY across the board or just at the P2P clubs, it is coming.

You dont understand that MLS Next wasnt created to be a youth league. It was created to provide MLS pro clubs with cheap local talent. In the pro world grade in school or aligning to a school year has no meaning.

Care to explain why they started MLSN2 and put teams in NAL? And why they bother with MLSN non-Academies P2P at all? Because none of them have anything to do with the pros other than trying to make money off of youth soccer, like everyone else. And we can rule out identifying talent as a reason because players can be picked for MLSN academies from any league.

Pretty simple. Bigger pool of potential players to choose from.

I'm sure multiple P2P clubs want to get involved with MLS but they dont want to run an Academy. The easy way to solve this is MLS2. It's the same thing that happens in other countries with multiple different levels of Academy clubs. The only difference here is that its a mix of Academy and P2P at different levels. Also all players are under MLS contract which means they all funnel up to MLS if theres talent.

Congrats! This is the most delusional take in the last 30 pages. You get a special badge just for this.

OK you know all apparently.

Watch when MLS takes over P2P and ECNL gets boxed put of playing professionally.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL clubs will provide a nice option for Aug-Dec boys that are MLSN1 non-starters or MLSN2 starters looking to move up in playing time and competition.

That’s assuming MLSN doesn’t also go SY. I know people used to think their silence on the topic meant they weren’t changing, but now, with GA (their partners on the girls side) switching it is pretty obvious they are going to switch things up. Whether that is full SY across the board or just at the P2P clubs, it is coming.

You dont understand that MLS Next wasnt created to be a youth league. It was created to provide MLS pro clubs with cheap local talent. In the pro world grade in school or aligning to a school year has no meaning.

Care to explain why they started MLSN2 and put teams in NAL? And why they bother with MLSN non-Academies P2P at all? Because none of them have anything to do with the pros other than trying to make money off of youth soccer, like everyone else. And we can rule out identifying talent as a reason because players can be picked for MLSN academies from any league.

Pretty simple. Bigger pool of potential players to choose from.

I'm sure multiple P2P clubs want to get involved with MLS but they dont want to run an Academy. The easy way to solve this is MLS2. It's the same thing that happens in other countries with multiple different levels of Academy clubs. The only difference here is that its a mix of Academy and P2P at different levels. Also all players are under MLS contract which means they all funnel up to MLS if theres talent.

Congrats! This is the most delusional take in the last 30 pages. You get a special badge just for this.

OK you know all apparently.

Watch when MLS takes over P2P and ECNL gets boxed put of playing professionally.

Wait wait, I thought MlSN was a strict path to pro and now you’re saying they’re going to take over P2P? Ok… will check back in on this in a few years I guess.

I don’t think ECNl cares about pro, they seem very college focused. So getting ‘boxed out’ of pro doesn’t seem like a bad thing for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My P2P kids love school ball. We will go to ECNL immediatly if they dont change.

ECNL + HS Soccer is the best combo. You cannot replace the HS Soccer exp. that you fight together with your schoolmates, the bus ride, and hang out together as a family. The bond will last a lifetime.

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Anonymous wrote:My P2P kids love school ball. We will go to ECNL immediatly if they dont change.

ECNL + HS Soccer is the best combo. You cannot replace the HS Soccer exp. that you fight together with your schoolmates, the bus ride, and hang out together as a family. The bond will last a lifetime.

I completely agree. My kids prep school league is awesome. We get several hundred people out on friday night for 8th grade games!

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL clubs will provide a nice option for Aug-Dec boys that are MLSN1 non-starters or MLSN2 starters looking to move up in playing time and competition.

That’s assuming MLSN doesn’t also go SY. I know people used to think their silence on the topic meant they weren’t changing, but now, with GA (their partners on the girls side) switching it is pretty obvious they are going to switch things up. Whether that is full SY across the board or just at the P2P clubs, it is coming.

You dont understand that MLS Next wasnt created to be a youth league. It was created to provide MLS pro clubs with cheap local talent. In the pro world grade in school or aligning to a school year has no meaning.

Care to explain why they started MLSN2 and put teams in NAL? And why they bother with MLSN non-Academies P2P at all? Because none of them have anything to do with the pros other than trying to make money off of youth soccer, like everyone else. And we can rule out identifying talent as a reason because players can be picked for MLSN academies from any league.

Pretty simple. Bigger pool of potential players to choose from.

I'm sure multiple P2P clubs want to get involved with MLS but they dont want to run an Academy. The easy way to solve this is MLS2. It's the same thing that happens in other countries with multiple different levels of Academy clubs. The only difference here is that its a mix of Academy and P2P at different levels. Also all players are under MLS contract which means they all funnel up to MLS if theres talent.

Congrats! This is the most delusional take in the last 30 pages. You get a special badge just for this.

OK you know all apparently.

Watch when MLS takes over P2P and ECNL gets boxed put of playing professionally.

Wait wait, I thought MlSN was a strict path to pro and now you’re saying they’re going to take over P2P? Ok… will check back in on this in a few years I guess.

I don’t think ECNl cares about pro, they seem very college focused. So getting ‘boxed out’ of pro doesn’t seem like a bad thing for them.

Yes, MLS Next first goal is to provide pro players.

However just like the Euro Acadamies that college teams recruit from. Top MLS Next players that arent quite pro get recruited by college coaches. This puts ECNL and all the P2P leagues as 3rd and 4th choices.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL clubs will provide a nice option for Aug-Dec boys that are MLSN1 non-starters or MLSN2 starters looking to move up in playing time and competition.

That’s assuming MLSN doesn’t also go SY. I know people used to think their silence on the topic meant they weren’t changing, but now, with GA (their partners on the girls side) switching it is pretty obvious they are going to switch things up. Whether that is full SY across the board or just at the P2P clubs, it is coming.

You dont understand that MLS Next wasnt created to be a youth league. It was created to provide MLS pro clubs with cheap local talent. In the pro world grade in school or aligning to a school year has no meaning.

Care to explain why they started MLSN2 and put teams in NAL? And why they bother with MLSN non-Academies P2P at all? Because none of them have anything to do with the pros other than trying to make money off of youth soccer, like everyone else. And we can rule out identifying talent as a reason because players can be picked for MLSN academies from any league.

Pretty simple. Bigger pool of potential players to choose from.

I'm sure multiple P2P clubs want to get involved with MLS but they dont want to run an Academy. The easy way to solve this is MLS2. It's the same thing that happens in other countries with multiple different levels of Academy clubs. The only difference here is that its a mix of Academy and P2P at different levels. Also all players are under MLS contract which means they all funnel up to MLS if theres talent.

Congrats! This is the most delusional take in the last 30 pages. You get a special badge just for this.

OK you know all apparently.

Watch when MLS takes over P2P and ECNL gets boxed put of playing professionally.

Wait wait, I thought MlSN was a strict path to pro and now you’re saying they’re going to take over P2P? Ok… will check back in on this in a few years I guess.

I don’t think ECNl cares about pro, they seem very college focused. So getting ‘boxed out’ of pro doesn’t seem like a bad thing for them.

You dont have to wait a couple of years. Look at the current makeup of college teams and the players involved. Almost everyone have Euro Acadamy drop outs. Coaches arent going this way because ECNL players help them to win games. They're doing it because P2P players dont compare and they cant win with them.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL clubs will provide a nice option for Aug-Dec boys that are MLSN1 non-starters or MLSN2 starters looking to move up in playing time and competition.

That’s assuming MLSN doesn’t also go SY. I know people used to think their silence on the topic meant they weren’t changing, but now, with GA (their partners on the girls side) switching it is pretty obvious they are going to switch things up. Whether that is full SY across the board or just at the P2P clubs, it is coming.

You dont understand that MLS Next wasnt created to be a youth league. It was created to provide MLS pro clubs with cheap local talent. In the pro world grade in school or aligning to a school year has no meaning.

Care to explain why they started MLSN2 and put teams in NAL? And why they bother with MLSN non-Academies P2P at all? Because none of them have anything to do with the pros other than trying to make money off of youth soccer, like everyone else. And we can rule out identifying talent as a reason because players can be picked for MLSN academies from any league.

Bingo. I know an mls coach (pro team) and he told me they were in talks of closing the academy because it’s a money pit and they aren’t seeing any ROI (creating pros). He mentioned the very few kids that do break through only play because injuries. Also noted that the lack of development between 18-22 is a huge problem here.

[Anonymous]

Despite college soccer becoming a less viable option than it used to be, it is still the main carrot that drives soccer parents and kids in the p2p system. Pretending that MLSN is not intended to serve that in some way is daft. Also pretending that MLsN is not a business first and trying to expand their customer base and squeeze out ECNL is equally daft, which is why MLSN likely changes cutoffs to SY.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL clubs will provide a nice option for Aug-Dec boys that are MLSN1 non-starters or MLSN2 starters looking to move up in playing time and competition.

That’s assuming MLSN doesn’t also go SY. I know people used to think their silence on the topic meant they weren’t changing, but now, with GA (their partners on the girls side) switching it is pretty obvious they are going to switch things up. Whether that is full SY across the board or just at the P2P clubs, it is coming.

You dont understand that MLS Next wasnt created to be a youth league. It was created to provide MLS pro clubs with cheap local talent. In the pro world grade in school or aligning to a school year has no meaning.

Care to explain why they started MLSN2 and put teams in NAL? And why they bother with MLSN non-Academies P2P at all? Because none of them have anything to do with the pros other than trying to make money off of youth soccer, like everyone else. And we can rule out identifying talent as a reason because players can be picked for MLSN academies from any league.

Pretty simple. Bigger pool of potential players to choose from.

I'm sure multiple P2P clubs want to get involved with MLS but they dont want to run an Academy. The easy way to solve this is MLS2. It's the same thing that happens in other countries with multiple different levels of Academy clubs. The only difference here is that its a mix of Academy and P2P at different levels. Also all players are under MLS contract which means they all funnel up to MLS if theres talent.

Congrats! This is the most delusional take in the last 30 pages. You get a special badge just for this.

OK you know all apparently.

Watch when MLS takes over P2P and ECNL gets boxed put of playing professionally.

Wait wait, I thought MlSN was a strict path to pro and now you’re saying they’re going to take over P2P? Ok… will check back in on this in a few years I guess.

I don’t think ECNl cares about pro, they seem very college focused. So getting ‘boxed out’ of pro doesn’t seem like a bad thing for them.

You dont have to wait a couple of years. Look at the current makeup of college teams and the players involved. Almost everyone have Euro Acadamy drop outs. Coaches arent going this way because ECNL players help them to win games. They're doing it because P2P players dont compare and they cant win with them.

This is why I’m actually not against grad year. The 20-24 euro is the real competition here. Sending our players to college at 20 evens the playing field

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL clubs will provide a nice option for Aug-Dec boys that are MLSN1 non-starters or MLSN2 starters looking to move up in playing time and competition.

That’s assuming MLSN doesn’t also go SY. I know people used to think their silence on the topic meant they weren’t changing, but now, with GA (their partners on the girls side) switching it is pretty obvious they are going to switch things up. Whether that is full SY across the board or just at the P2P clubs, it is coming.

You dont understand that MLS Next wasnt created to be a youth league. It was created to provide MLS pro clubs with cheap local talent. In the pro world grade in school or aligning to a school year has no meaning.

Care to explain why they started MLSN2 and put teams in NAL? And why they bother with MLSN non-Academies P2P at all? Because none of them have anything to do with the pros other than trying to make money off of youth soccer, like everyone else. And we can rule out identifying talent as a reason because players can be picked for MLSN academies from any league.

Bingo. I know an mls coach (pro team) and he told me they were in talks of closing the academy because it’s a money pit and they aren’t seeing any ROI (creating pros). He mentioned the very few kids that do break through only play because injuries. Also noted that the lack of development between 18-22 is a huge problem here.

Nonsense, if you dont develop players yourself you'll need to buy them on the open market competing with other clubs. The cost is the same either way if MLS is looking to field top tier talent. If MLS doesnt want to field top tier talent and you think MLS Next doesnt develop the best players its still cheaper because they have a pool of players to pull from that doesnt cost anything.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL clubs will provide a nice option for Aug-Dec boys that are MLSN1 non-starters or MLSN2 starters looking to move up in playing time and competition.

That’s assuming MLSN doesn’t also go SY. I know people used to think their silence on the topic meant they weren’t changing, but now, with GA (their partners on the girls side) switching it is pretty obvious they are going to switch things up. Whether that is full SY across the board or just at the P2P clubs, it is coming.

You dont understand that MLS Next wasnt created to be a youth league. It was created to provide MLS pro clubs with cheap local talent. In the pro world grade in school or aligning to a school year has no meaning.

Care to explain why they started MLSN2 and put teams in NAL? And why they bother with MLSN non-Academies P2P at all? Because none of them have anything to do with the pros other than trying to make money off of youth soccer, like everyone else. And we can rule out identifying talent as a reason because players can be picked for MLSN academies from any league.

Pretty simple. Bigger pool of potential players to choose from.

I'm sure multiple P2P clubs want to get involved with MLS but they dont want to run an Academy. The easy way to solve this is MLS2. It's the same thing that happens in other countries with multiple different levels of Academy clubs. The only difference here is that its a mix of Academy and P2P at different levels. Also all players are under MLS contract which means they all funnel up to MLS if theres talent.

Congrats! This is the most delusional take in the last 30 pages. You get a special badge just for this.

OK you know all apparently.

Watch when MLS takes over P2P and ECNL gets boxed put of playing professionally.

Wait wait, I thought MlSN was a strict path to pro and now you’re saying they’re going to take over P2P? Ok… will check back in on this in a few years I guess.

I don’t think ECNl cares about pro, they seem very college focused. So getting ‘boxed out’ of pro doesn’t seem like a bad thing for them.

Yes, MLS Next first goal is to provide pro players.

However just like the Euro Acadamies that college teams recruit from. Top MLS Next players that arent quite pro get recruited by college coaches. This puts ECNL and all the P2P leagues as 3rd and 4th choices.

MLSN Academy is pro path. P2P MLSN is a money scam. The level of P2P MLSN is more or less compared with ECNL. Don't try to associate yourself with MLSN Academy. You only play ONE game a year against MLSN academy and you are currently playing down. Nothing to be proud of.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL clubs will provide a nice option for Aug-Dec boys that are MLSN1 non-starters or MLSN2 starters looking to move up in playing time and competition.

That’s assuming MLSN doesn’t also go SY. I know people used to think their silence on the topic meant they weren’t changing, but now, with GA (their partners on the girls side) switching it is pretty obvious they are going to switch things up. Whether that is full SY across the board or just at the P2P clubs, it is coming.

You dont understand that MLS Next wasnt created to be a youth league. It was created to provide MLS pro clubs with cheap local talent. In the pro world grade in school or aligning to a school year has no meaning.

Care to explain why they started MLSN2 and put teams in NAL? And why they bother with MLSN non-Academies P2P at all? Because none of them have anything to do with the pros other than trying to make money off of youth soccer, like everyone else. And we can rule out identifying talent as a reason because players can be picked for MLSN academies from any league.

Pretty simple. Bigger pool of potential players to choose from.

I'm sure multiple P2P clubs want to get involved with MLS but they dont want to run an Academy. The easy way to solve this is MLS2. It's the same thing that happens in other countries with multiple different levels of Academy clubs. The only difference here is that its a mix of Academy and P2P at different levels. Also all players are under MLS contract which means they all funnel up to MLS if theres talent.

Congrats! This is the most delusional take in the last 30 pages. You get a special badge just for this.

OK you know all apparently.

Watch when MLS takes over P2P and ECNL gets boxed put of playing professionally.

Wait wait, I thought MlSN was a strict path to pro and now you’re saying they’re going to take over P2P? Ok… will check back in on this in a few years I guess.

I don’t think ECNl cares about pro, they seem very college focused. So getting ‘boxed out’ of pro doesn’t seem like a bad thing for them.

Yes, MLS Next first goal is to provide pro players.

However just like the Euro Acadamies that college teams recruit from. Top MLS Next players that arent quite pro get recruited by college coaches. This puts ECNL and all the P2P leagues as 3rd and 4th choices.

MLSN Academy is pro path. P2P MLSN is a money scam. The level of P2P MLSN is more or less compared with ECNL. Don't try to associate yourself with MLSN Academy. You only play ONE game a year against MLSN academy and you are currently playing down. Nothing to be proud of.

Whats wrong with there being multiple levels? Its not a scam. From what I've seen coaches look all over for talent. If you're good something will happen.