FCPS comprehensive boundary review

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Question: Has any "suggestions" been made about particular moves? Or is everyone just confused?

Do we have theories on who would be moved?

So the starting point would be the schools that are severely overcrowded. Taking those schools and trying to shift those populations to schools not as crowded.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed-FCPS-FY-2025-29-CIP.pdf

Langley at 98% capacity and Herndon at 71% should have great falls worried

Nope. Westfield to Herndon first.

I say leave McLean, Westfield, and Chantilly alone.

McLean needs a renovation plan, not a boundary change. McLean kids deserve better than to be treated as a foil for moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon.

The Westfield kids who would move to Herndon (Coates) would further drive up the poverty at HHS. That doesn’t seem too smart.

Chantilly kids can move, if necessary, after Centreville has been expanded.

The McLean boundaries are probably one of the craziest islands in FFX. They are several other schools that they should attend. This has continued because they are privileged kids. Those populations could have helped other schools perform better. They are most certainly part of this equity argument.

You must not know these boundaries. The McLean islands that would move if eliminating islands is Goal #1 are not “privileged” areas. The western island is exclusively multi-family housing. The southern island feeds to a Title I school and is mostly low-income Hispanic kids living off Route 29.

So, sure you can move one to Langley and the other to Falls Church. Then, if you want to maintain diversity at McLean, you have to move other areas there instead, probably from Marshall. It’s a lot of potential re-arranging for no clear reason or benefit (other than that there may be people on the School Board who want to move more McLean kids to Langley so they can justify moving part of Langley to Herndon).

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Question: Has any "suggestions" been made about particular moves? Or is everyone just confused?

Do we have theories on who would be moved?

So the starting point would be the schools that are severely overcrowded. Taking those schools and trying to shift those populations to schools not as crowded.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed-FCPS-FY-2025-29-CIP.pdf

Langley at 98% capacity and Herndon at 71% should have great falls worried

Nope. Westfield to Herndon first.

I say leave McLean, Westfield, and Chantilly alone.

McLean needs a renovation plan, not a boundary change. McLean kids deserve better than to be treated as a foil for moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon.

The Westfield kids who would move to Herndon (Coates) would further drive up the poverty at HHS. That doesn’t seem too smart.

Chantilly kids can move, if necessary, after Centreville has been expanded.

Is HHS Title 1? I don't think so.....not that FCPS will care adding another high school to that list. Those kids can go.

Bryant Alternative and Justice are the two Title I high schools in FCPS. Sending all of Coates (64% FARMS) to Herndon pushes HHS closer to Justice numbers. That really doesn’t seem to align with FCPS goals.

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Question: Has any "suggestions" been made about particular moves? Or is everyone just confused?

Do we have theories on who would be moved?

So the starting point would be the schools that are severely overcrowded. Taking those schools and trying to shift those populations to schools not as crowded.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed-FCPS-FY-2025-29-CIP.pdf

Langley at 98% capacity and Herndon at 71% should have great falls worried

Nope. Westfield to Herndon first.

I say leave McLean, Westfield, and Chantilly alone.

McLean needs a renovation plan, not a boundary change. McLean kids deserve better than to be treated as a foil for moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon.

The Westfield kids who would move to Herndon (Coates) would further drive up the poverty at HHS. That doesn’t seem too smart.

Chantilly kids can move, if necessary, after Centreville has been expanded.

The "not my kid" move.

It would just be a simpler, cleaner shift, if still necessary, once Centreville is renovated and expanded.

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Question: Has any "suggestions" been made about particular moves? Or is everyone just confused?

Do we have theories on who would be moved?

So the starting point would be the schools that are severely overcrowded. Taking those schools and trying to shift those populations to schools not as crowded.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed-FCPS-FY-2025-29-CIP.pdf

Langley at 98% capacity and Herndon at 71% should have great falls worried

You’re using last year’s numbers. Enrollment is down a lot at Langley, they can absorb the McLean attendance island without going above capacity.

There are two Mclean attendance islands, and they are most definitely on the block to be absorbed.

I know, but the one to its south isn’t going to Langley because that’d be an even worse attendance island.

The one should go to Falls Church HS, then they might actually put some money in that school and it would raise its performance overall. The other should go to Marshall. The would be help in equity.

Makes no sense. One island, if moved, would go to Langley and the other to Falls Church or Marshall.

Moving the southern island to Falls Church would be neutral in terms of FCHS’s performance. It basically has the same overall demographics as Falls Church. It’s poorer than Marshall and moving it there would reduce Marshall’s overall academic scores.

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Question: Has any "suggestions" been made about particular moves? Or is everyone just confused?

Do we have theories on who would be moved?

So the starting point would be the schools that are severely overcrowded. Taking those schools and trying to shift those populations to schools not as crowded.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed-FCPS-FY-2025-29-CIP.pdf

Langley at 98% capacity and Herndon at 71% should have great falls worried

You’re using last year’s numbers. Enrollment is down a lot at Langley, they can absorb the McLean attendance island without going above capacity.

There are two Mclean attendance islands, and they are most definitely on the block to be absorbed.

I know, but the one to its south isn’t going to Langley because that’d be an even worse attendance island.

The one should go to Falls Church HS, then they might actually put some money in that school and it would raise its performance overall. The other should go to Marshall. The would be help in equity.

Makes no sense. One island, if moved, would go to Langley and the other to Falls Church or Marshall.

Moving the southern island to Falls Church would be neutral in terms of FCHS’s performance. It basically has the same overall demographics as Falls Church. It’s poorer than Marshall and moving it there would reduce Marshall’s overall academic scores.

I don’t have any objection to the McLean attendance island going to Langley. It doesn’t put Langley over capacity, even without any other moves.

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Question: Has any "suggestions" been made about particular moves? Or is everyone just confused?

Do we have theories on who would be moved?

So the starting point would be the schools that are severely overcrowded. Taking those schools and trying to shift those populations to schools not as crowded.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed-FCPS-FY-2025-29-CIP.pdf

Langley at 98% capacity and Herndon at 71% should have great falls worried

You’re using last year’s numbers. Enrollment is down a lot at Langley, they can absorb the McLean attendance island without going above capacity.

There are two Mclean attendance islands, and they are most definitely on the block to be absorbed.

I know, but the one to its south isn’t going to Langley because that’d be an even worse attendance island.

The one should go to Falls Church HS, then they might actually put some money in that school and it would raise its performance overall. The other should go to Marshall. The would be help in equity.

Makes no sense. One island, if moved, would go to Langley and the other to Falls Church or Marshall.

Moving the southern island to Falls Church would be neutral in terms of FCHS’s performance. It basically has the same overall demographics as Falls Church. It’s poorer than Marshall and moving it there would reduce Marshall’s overall academic scores.

I don’t have any objection to the McLean attendance island going to Langley. It doesn’t put Langley over capacity, even without any other moves.

Your issue isn't going to be whether you "consent" to the McLean attendance island going to Langley. It's whether it becomes the pretext to move a chunk of Great Falls to Herndon. They have the authority to do that regardless of whether Langley is then sitting at 95% capacity, 99% capacity, or 101% capacity, if they're projecting Herndon will be at 71% capacity in five years.

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Question: Has any "suggestions" been made about particular moves? Or is everyone just confused?

Do we have theories on who would be moved?

So the starting point would be the schools that are severely overcrowded. Taking those schools and trying to shift those populations to schools not as crowded.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed-FCPS-FY-2025-29-CIP.pdf

Langley at 98% capacity and Herndon at 71% should have great falls worried

You’re using last year’s numbers. Enrollment is down a lot at Langley, they can absorb the McLean attendance island without going above capacity.

There are two Mclean attendance islands, and they are most definitely on the block to be absorbed.

I know, but the one to its south isn’t going to Langley because that’d be an even worse attendance island.

The one should go to Falls Church HS, then they might actually put some money in that school and it would raise its performance overall. The other should go to Marshall. The would be help in equity.

Makes no sense. One island, if moved, would go to Langley and the other to Falls Church or Marshall.

Moving the southern island to Falls Church would be neutral in terms of FCHS’s performance. It basically has the same overall demographics as Falls Church. It’s poorer than Marshall and moving it there would reduce Marshall’s overall academic scores.

I don’t have any objection to the McLean attendance island going to Langley. It doesn’t put Langley over capacity, even without any other moves.

Your issue isn't going to be whether you "consent" to the McLean attendance island going to Langley. It's whether it becomes the pretext to move a chunk of Great Falls to Herndon. They have the authority to do that regardless of whether Langley is then sitting at 95% capacity, 99% capacity, or 101% capacity, if they're projecting Herndon will be at 71% capacity in five years.

As you know, the issue isn’t Herndon High, is Herndon Middle, which would be significantly overcapacity with that move.

And I’m not sure why the school board would want to pick a fight with residents by moving a school that isn’t crowded.

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Question: Has any "suggestions" been made about particular moves? Or is everyone just confused?

Do we have theories on who would be moved?

So the starting point would be the schools that are severely overcrowded. Taking those schools and trying to shift those populations to schools not as crowded.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed-FCPS-FY-2025-29-CIP.pdf

Langley at 98% capacity and Herndon at 71% should have great falls worried

You’re using last year’s numbers. Enrollment is down a lot at Langley, they can absorb the McLean attendance island without going above capacity.

There are two Mclean attendance islands, and they are most definitely on the block to be absorbed.

I know, but the one to its south isn’t going to Langley because that’d be an even worse attendance island.

The one should go to Falls Church HS, then they might actually put some money in that school and it would raise its performance overall. The other should go to Marshall. The would be help in equity.

Makes no sense. One island, if moved, would go to Langley and the other to Falls Church or Marshall.

Moving the southern island to Falls Church would be neutral in terms of FCHS’s performance. It basically has the same overall demographics as Falls Church. It’s poorer than Marshall and moving it there would reduce Marshall’s overall academic scores.

I don’t have any objection to the McLean attendance island going to Langley. It doesn’t put Langley over capacity, even without any other moves.

Your issue isn't going to be whether you "consent" to the McLean attendance island going to Langley. It's whether it becomes the pretext to move a chunk of Great Falls to Herndon. They have the authority to do that regardless of whether Langley is then sitting at 95% capacity, 99% capacity, or 101% capacity, if they're projecting Herndon will be at 71% capacity in five years.

As you know, the issue isn’t Herndon High, is Herndon Middle, which would be significantly overcapacity with that move.

And I’m not sure why the school board would want to pick a fight with residents by moving a school that isn’t crowded.

I'm not going to argue with you. You're at their disposal, not mine, but some of them would likely relish picking a fight with you.

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Question: Has any "suggestions" been made about particular moves? Or is everyone just confused?

Do we have theories on who would be moved?

So the starting point would be the schools that are severely overcrowded. Taking those schools and trying to shift those populations to schools not as crowded.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed-FCPS-FY-2025-29-CIP.pdf

Langley at 98% capacity and Herndon at 71% should have great falls worried

You’re using last year’s numbers. Enrollment is down a lot at Langley, they can absorb the McLean attendance island without going above capacity.

There are two Mclean attendance islands, and they are most definitely on the block to be absorbed.

I know, but the one to its south isn’t going to Langley because that’d be an even worse attendance island.

The one should go to Falls Church HS, then they might actually put some money in that school and it would raise its performance overall. The other should go to Marshall. The would be help in equity.

Makes no sense. One island, if moved, would go to Langley and the other to Falls Church or Marshall.

Moving the southern island to Falls Church would be neutral in terms of FCHS’s performance. It basically has the same overall demographics as Falls Church. It’s poorer than Marshall and moving it there would reduce Marshall’s overall academic scores.

I don’t have any objection to the McLean attendance island going to Langley. It doesn’t put Langley over capacity, even without any other moves.

Your issue isn't going to be whether you "consent" to the McLean attendance island going to Langley. It's whether it becomes the pretext to move a chunk of Great Falls to Herndon. They have the authority to do that regardless of whether Langley is then sitting at 95% capacity, 99% capacity, or 101% capacity, if they're projecting Herndon will be at 71% capacity in five years.

As you know, the issue isn’t Herndon High, is Herndon Middle, which would be significantly overcapacity with that move.

And I’m not sure why the school board would want to pick a fight with residents by moving a school that isn’t crowded.

I'm not going to argue with you. You're at their disposal, not mine, but some of them would likely relish picking a fight with you.

Would love to know who and why they would relish a “fight” with constituents especially when it involved impacting children.

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Question: Has any "suggestions" been made about particular moves? Or is everyone just confused?

Do we have theories on who would be moved?

So the starting point would be the schools that are severely overcrowded. Taking those schools and trying to shift those populations to schools not as crowded.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed-FCPS-FY-2025-29-CIP.pdf

Langley at 98% capacity and Herndon at 71% should have great falls worried

You’re using last year’s numbers. Enrollment is down a lot at Langley, they can absorb the McLean attendance island without going above capacity.

There are two Mclean attendance islands, and they are most definitely on the block to be absorbed.

I know, but the one to its south isn’t going to Langley because that’d be an even worse attendance island.

The one should go to Falls Church HS, then they might actually put some money in that school and it would raise its performance overall. The other should go to Marshall. The would be help in equity.

Makes no sense. One island, if moved, would go to Langley and the other to Falls Church or Marshall.

Moving the southern island to Falls Church would be neutral in terms of FCHS’s performance. It basically has the same overall demographics as Falls Church. It’s poorer than Marshall and moving it there would reduce Marshall’s overall academic scores.

I don’t have any objection to the McLean attendance island going to Langley. It doesn’t put Langley over capacity, even without any other moves.

Your issue isn't going to be whether you "consent" to the McLean attendance island going to Langley. It's whether it becomes the pretext to move a chunk of Great Falls to Herndon. They have the authority to do that regardless of whether Langley is then sitting at 95% capacity, 99% capacity, or 101% capacity, if they're projecting Herndon will be at 71% capacity in five years.

As you know, the issue isn’t Herndon High, is Herndon Middle, which would be significantly overcapacity with that move.

And I’m not sure why the school board would want to pick a fight with residents by moving a school that isn’t crowded.

I'm not going to argue with you. You're at their disposal, not mine, but some of them would likely relish picking a fight with you.

Would love to know who and why they would relish a “fight” with constituents especially when it involved impacting children.

Have you really not been paying attention?

First, eight of the Board members (a 2/3 majority) don't consider you to be their constituents and some of them think it will enhance their reputation with their constituents if they move McLean and Langley kids around.

Second, two of the four who should be viewing you as their constituents (Lady and McDaniel) seem all-in on boundary changes. Moon and McElveen seem much less enthusiastic about county-wide changes, but will they go to bat for people or just distance themselves from what's happening around them?

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Question: Has any "suggestions" been made about particular moves? Or is everyone just confused?

Do we have theories on who would be moved?

So the starting point would be the schools that are severely overcrowded. Taking those schools and trying to shift those populations to schools not as crowded.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed-FCPS-FY-2025-29-CIP.pdf

Langley at 98% capacity and Herndon at 71% should have great falls worried

Nope. Westfield to Herndon first.

I say leave McLean, Westfield, and Chantilly alone.

McLean needs a renovation plan, not a boundary change. McLean kids deserve better than to be treated as a foil for moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon.

The Westfield kids who would move to Herndon (Coates) would further drive up the poverty at HHS. That doesn’t seem too smart.

Chantilly kids can move, if necessary, after Centreville has been expanded.

The "not my kid" move.

It would just be a simpler, cleaner shift, if still necessary, once Centreville is renovated and expanded.

Why would anyone want to go to Centreville so long as Julie Perry is there? She might try to detrans them or something.

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Question: Has any "suggestions" been made about particular moves? Or is everyone just confused?

Do we have theories on who would be moved?

So the starting point would be the schools that are severely overcrowded. Taking those schools and trying to shift those populations to schools not as crowded.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed-FCPS-FY-2025-29-CIP.pdf

Langley at 98% capacity and Herndon at 71% should have great falls worried

You’re using last year’s numbers. Enrollment is down a lot at Langley, they can absorb the McLean attendance island without going above capacity.

There are two Mclean attendance islands, and they are most definitely on the block to be absorbed.

I know, but the one to its south isn’t going to Langley because that’d be an even worse attendance island.

The one should go to Falls Church HS, then they might actually put some money in that school and it would raise its performance overall. The other should go to Marshall. The would be help in equity.

Makes no sense. One island, if moved, would go to Langley and the other to Falls Church or Marshall.

Moving the southern island to Falls Church would be neutral in terms of FCHS’s performance. It basically has the same overall demographics as Falls Church. It’s poorer than Marshall and moving it there would reduce Marshall’s overall academic scores.

I don’t have any objection to the McLean attendance island going to Langley. It doesn’t put Langley over capacity, even without any other moves.

Your issue isn't going to be whether you "consent" to the McLean attendance island going to Langley. It's whether it becomes the pretext to move a chunk of Great Falls to Herndon. They have the authority to do that regardless of whether Langley is then sitting at 95% capacity, 99% capacity, or 101% capacity, if they're projecting Herndon will be at 71% capacity in five years.

As you know, the issue isn’t Herndon High, is Herndon Middle, which would be significantly overcapacity with that move.

And I’m not sure why the school board would want to pick a fight with residents by moving a school that isn’t crowded.

I'm not going to argue with you. You're at their disposal, not mine, but some of them would likely relish picking a fight with you.

Would love to know who and why they would relish a “fight” with constituents especially when it involved impacting children.

Have you really not been paying attention?

First, eight of the Board members (a 2/3 majority) don't consider you to be their constituents and some of them think it will enhance their reputation with their constituents if they move McLean and Langley kids around.

Second, two of the four who should be viewing you as their constituents (Lady and McDaniel) seem all-in on boundary changes. Moon and McElveen seem much less enthusiastic about county-wide changes, but will they go to bat for people or just distance themselves from what's happening around them?

Pretty messed up to enhance their reputation by sticking it to a bunch of kids for no reason. But maybe I’ve come to expect too much from elected officials in Fairfax county.

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Question: Has any "suggestions" been made about particular moves? Or is everyone just confused?

Do we have theories on who would be moved?

So the starting point would be the schools that are severely overcrowded. Taking those schools and trying to shift those populations to schools not as crowded.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed-FCPS-FY-2025-29-CIP.pdf

Langley at 98% capacity and Herndon at 71% should have great falls worried

You’re using last year’s numbers. Enrollment is down a lot at Langley, they can absorb the McLean attendance island without going above capacity.

There are two Mclean attendance islands, and they are most definitely on the block to be absorbed.

I know, but the one to its south isn’t going to Langley because that’d be an even worse attendance island.

The one should go to Falls Church HS, then they might actually put some money in that school and it would raise its performance overall. The other should go to Marshall. The would be help in equity.

Makes no sense. One island, if moved, would go to Langley and the other to Falls Church or Marshall.

Moving the southern island to Falls Church would be neutral in terms of FCHS’s performance. It basically has the same overall demographics as Falls Church. It’s poorer than Marshall and moving it there would reduce Marshall’s overall academic scores.

I don’t have any objection to the McLean attendance island going to Langley. It doesn’t put Langley over capacity, even without any other moves.

Your issue isn't going to be whether you "consent" to the McLean attendance island going to Langley. It's whether it becomes the pretext to move a chunk of Great Falls to Herndon. They have the authority to do that regardless of whether Langley is then sitting at 95% capacity, 99% capacity, or 101% capacity, if they're projecting Herndon will be at 71% capacity in five years.

As you know, the issue isn’t Herndon High, is Herndon Middle, which would be significantly overcapacity with that move.

And I’m not sure why the school board would want to pick a fight with residents by moving a school that isn’t crowded.

I'm not going to argue with you. You're at their disposal, not mine, but some of them would likely relish picking a fight with you.

Would love to know who and why they would relish a “fight” with constituents especially when it involved impacting children.

Have you really not been paying attention?

First, eight of the Board members (a 2/3 majority) don't consider you to be their constituents and some of them think it will enhance their reputation with their constituents if they move McLean and Langley kids around.

Second, two of the four who should be viewing you as their constituents (Lady and McDaniel) seem all-in on boundary changes. Moon and McElveen seem much less enthusiastic about county-wide changes, but will they go to bat for people or just distance themselves from what's happening around them?

Pretty messed up to enhance their reputation by sticking it to a bunch of kids for no reason. But maybe I’ve come to expect too much from elected officials in Fairfax county.

They will have a grab bag of justifications if they so choose. In terms of reasons, claiming that they are shortening commutes and avoiding 29% under-enrollment at HHS will stack up nicely with eliminating an attendance island, which was OK to have around for 40 years not doing anyone any harm (and perhaps doing some kids some good) but is now apparently intolerable.

The whole study is a mess borne of a desire to avoid accountability and now spiraling into something potentially much worse.

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Question: Has any "suggestions" been made about particular moves? Or is everyone just confused?

Do we have theories on who would be moved?

So the starting point would be the schools that are severely overcrowded. Taking those schools and trying to shift those populations to schools not as crowded.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed-FCPS-FY-2025-29-CIP.pdf

Langley at 98% capacity and Herndon at 71% should have great falls worried

You’re using last year’s numbers. Enrollment is down a lot at Langley, they can absorb the McLean attendance island without going above capacity.

There are two Mclean attendance islands, and they are most definitely on the block to be absorbed.

I know, but the one to its south isn’t going to Langley because that’d be an even worse attendance island.

The one should go to Falls Church HS, then they might actually put some money in that school and it would raise its performance overall. The other should go to Marshall. The would be help in equity.

Makes no sense. One island, if moved, would go to Langley and the other to Falls Church or Marshall.

Moving the southern island to Falls Church would be neutral in terms of FCHS’s performance. It basically has the same overall demographics as Falls Church. It’s poorer than Marshall and moving it there would reduce Marshall’s overall academic scores.

I don’t have any objection to the McLean attendance island going to Langley. It doesn’t put Langley over capacity, even without any other moves.

Your issue isn't going to be whether you "consent" to the McLean attendance island going to Langley. It's whether it becomes the pretext to move a chunk of Great Falls to Herndon. They have the authority to do that regardless of whether Langley is then sitting at 95% capacity, 99% capacity, or 101% capacity, if they're projecting Herndon will be at 71% capacity in five years.

As you know, the issue isn’t Herndon High, is Herndon Middle, which would be significantly overcapacity with that move.

And I’m not sure why the school board would want to pick a fight with residents by moving a school that isn’t crowded.

I'm not going to argue with you. You're at their disposal, not mine, but some of them would likely relish picking a fight with you.

Would love to know who and why they would relish a “fight” with constituents especially when it involved impacting children.

Have you really not been paying attention?

First, eight of the Board members (a 2/3 majority) don't consider you to be their constituents and some of them think it will enhance their reputation with their constituents if they move McLean and Langley kids around.

Second, two of the four who should be viewing you as their constituents (Lady and McDaniel) seem all-in on boundary changes. Moon and McElveen seem much less enthusiastic about county-wide changes, but will they go to bat for people or just distance themselves from what's happening around them?

Pretty messed up to enhance their reputation by sticking it to a bunch of kids for no reason. But maybe I’ve come to expect too much from elected officials in Fairfax county.

They will have a grab bag of justifications if they so choose. In terms of reasons, claiming that they are shortening commutes and avoiding 29% under-enrollment at HHS will stack up nicely with eliminating an attendance island, which was OK to have around for 40 years not doing anyone any harm (and perhaps doing some kids some good) but is now apparently intolerable.

The whole study is a mess borne of a desire to avoid accountability and now spiraling into something potentially much worse.

Just to reiterate though, Herndon middle is the one that’ll be overcrowded. And by their own hand-picked study (provided to the boundary review advisory committee on December 6), only commutes over an hour has any detrimental impact on academics or sleep. It’ll be a move made in spite and would likely cause political damage to the school board and its party.

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Question: Has any "suggestions" been made about particular moves? Or is everyone just confused?

Do we have theories on who would be moved?

So the starting point would be the schools that are severely overcrowded. Taking those schools and trying to shift those populations to schools not as crowded.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed-FCPS-FY-2025-29-CIP.pdf

Langley at 98% capacity and Herndon at 71% should have great falls worried

You’re using last year’s numbers. Enrollment is down a lot at Langley, they can absorb the McLean attendance island without going above capacity.

There are two Mclean attendance islands, and they are most definitely on the block to be absorbed.

I know, but the one to its south isn’t going to Langley because that’d be an even worse attendance island.

The one should go to Falls Church HS, then they might actually put some money in that school and it would raise its performance overall. The other should go to Marshall. The would be help in equity.

Makes no sense. One island, if moved, would go to Langley and the other to Falls Church or Marshall.

Moving the southern island to Falls Church would be neutral in terms of FCHS’s performance. It basically has the same overall demographics as Falls Church. It’s poorer than Marshall and moving it there would reduce Marshall’s overall academic scores.

I don’t have any objection to the McLean attendance island going to Langley. It doesn’t put Langley over capacity, even without any other moves.

Your issue isn't going to be whether you "consent" to the McLean attendance island going to Langley. It's whether it becomes the pretext to move a chunk of Great Falls to Herndon. They have the authority to do that regardless of whether Langley is then sitting at 95% capacity, 99% capacity, or 101% capacity, if they're projecting Herndon will be at 71% capacity in five years.

As you know, the issue isn’t Herndon High, is Herndon Middle, which would be significantly overcapacity with that move.

And I’m not sure why the school board would want to pick a fight with residents by moving a school that isn’t crowded.

I'm not going to argue with you. You're at their disposal, not mine, but some of them would likely relish picking a fight with you.

Would love to know who and why they would relish a “fight” with constituents especially when it involved impacting children.

Have you really not been paying attention?

First, eight of the Board members (a 2/3 majority) don't consider you to be their constituents and some of them think it will enhance their reputation with their constituents if they move McLean and Langley kids around.

Second, two of the four who should be viewing you as their constituents (Lady and McDaniel) seem all-in on boundary changes. Moon and McElveen seem much less enthusiastic about county-wide changes, but will they go to bat for people or just distance themselves from what's happening around them?

Pretty messed up to enhance their reputation by sticking it to a bunch of kids for no reason. But maybe I’ve come to expect too much from elected officials in Fairfax county.

They will have a grab bag of justifications if they so choose. In terms of reasons, claiming that they are shortening commutes and avoiding 29% under-enrollment at HHS will stack up nicely with eliminating an attendance island, which was OK to have around for 40 years not doing anyone any harm (and perhaps doing some kids some good) but is now apparently intolerable.

The whole study is a mess borne of a desire to avoid accountability and now spiraling into something potentially much worse.

Just to reiterate though, Herndon middle is the one that’ll be overcrowded. And by their own hand-picked study (provided to the boundary review advisory committee on December 6), only commutes over an hour has any detrimental impact on academics or sleep. It’ll be a move made in spite and would likely cause political damage to the school board and its party.

You don't think shifting around the rest of the county including sending kids from good schools to bad schools while leaving Langley (with no poor kids and one of the most affluent student bodies in the state) alone wouldn't be even worse for their political careers?