FCPS comprehensive boundary review

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Question: Has any "suggestions" been made about particular moves? Or is everyone just confused?

Do we have theories on who would be moved?


So the starting point would be the schools that are severely overcrowded. Taking those schools and trying to shift those populations to schools not as crowded.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed-FCPS-FY-2025-29-CIP.pdf


Langley at 98% capacity and Herndon at 71% should have great falls worried


Nope. Westfield to Herndon first.


I say leave McLean, Westfield, and Chantilly alone.

McLean needs a renovation plan, not a boundary change. McLean kids deserve better than to be treated as a foil for moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon.

The Westfield kids who would move to Herndon (Coates) would further drive up the poverty at HHS. That doesn’t seem too smart.

Chantilly kids can move, if necessary, after Centreville has been expanded.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:

Question: Has any "suggestions" been made about particular moves? Or is everyone just confused?

Do we have theories on who would be moved?


So the starting point would be the schools that are severely overcrowded. Taking those schools and trying to shift those populations to schools not as crowded.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed-FCPS-FY-2025-29-CIP.pdf


Langley at 98% capacity and Herndon at 71% should have great falls worried


Nope. Westfield to Herndon first.


I say leave McLean, Westfield, and Chantilly alone.

McLean needs a renovation plan, not a boundary change. McLean kids deserve better than to be treated as a foil for moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon.

The Westfield kids who would move to Herndon (Coates) would further drive up the poverty at HHS. That doesn’t seem too smart.

Chantilly kids can move, if necessary, after Centreville has been expanded.


The McLean boundaries are probably one of the craziest islands in FFX. They are several other schools that they should attend. This has continued because they are privileged kids. Those populations could have helped other schools perform better. They are most certainly part of this equity argument.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Question: Has any "suggestions" been made about particular moves? Or is everyone just confused?

Do we have theories on who would be moved?


So the starting point would be the schools that are severely overcrowded. Taking those schools and trying to shift those populations to schools not as crowded.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed-FCPS-FY-2025-29-CIP.pdf


Langley at 98% capacity and Herndon at 71% should have great falls worried


Nope. Westfield to Herndon first.


I say leave McLean, Westfield, and Chantilly alone.

McLean needs a renovation plan, not a boundary change. McLean kids deserve better than to be treated as a foil for moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon.

The Westfield kids who would move to Herndon (Coates) would further drive up the poverty at HHS. That doesn’t seem too smart.

Chantilly kids can move, if necessary, after Centreville has been expanded.


The "not my kid" move.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Question: Has any "suggestions" been made about particular moves? Or is everyone just confused?

Do we have theories on who would be moved?


So the starting point would be the schools that are severely overcrowded. Taking those schools and trying to shift those populations to schools not as crowded.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed-FCPS-FY-2025-29-CIP.pdf


Langley at 98% capacity and Herndon at 71% should have great falls worried


Nope. Westfield to Herndon first.


I say leave McLean, Westfield, and Chantilly alone.

McLean needs a renovation plan, not a boundary change. McLean kids deserve better than to be treated as a foil for moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon.

The Westfield kids who would move to Herndon (Coates) would further drive up the poverty at HHS. That doesn’t seem too smart.

Chantilly kids can move, if necessary, after Centreville has been expanded.


Is HHS Title 1? I don't think so.....not that FCPS will care adding another high school to that list. Those kids can go.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Question: Has any "suggestions" been made about particular moves? Or is everyone just confused?

Do we have theories on who would be moved?


So the starting point would be the schools that are severely overcrowded. Taking those schools and trying to shift those populations to schools not as crowded.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed-FCPS-FY-2025-29-CIP.pdf


Langley at 98% capacity and Herndon at 71% should have great falls worried


You’re using last year’s numbers. Enrollment is down a lot at Langley, they can absorb the McLean attendance island without going above capacity.


There are two Mclean attendance islands, and they are most definitely on the block to be absorbed.


I know, but the one to its south isn’t going to Langley because that’d be an even worse attendance island.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Question: Has any "suggestions" been made about particular moves? Or is everyone just confused?

Do we have theories on who would be moved?


So the starting point would be the schools that are severely overcrowded. Taking those schools and trying to shift those populations to schools not as crowded.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed-FCPS-FY-2025-29-CIP.pdf


Langley at 98% capacity and Herndon at 71% should have great falls worried


You’re using last year’s numbers. Enrollment is down a lot at Langley, they can absorb the McLean attendance island without going above capacity.


There are two Mclean attendance islands, and they are most definitely on the block to be absorbed.


The one should go to Falls Church HS, then they might actually put some money in that school and it would raise its performance overall. The other should go to Marshall. The would be help in equity.

I know, but the one to its south isn’t going to Langley because that’d be an even worse attendance island.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Question: Has any "suggestions" been made about particular moves? Or is everyone just confused?

Do we have theories on who would be moved?


So the starting point would be the schools that are severely overcrowded. Taking those schools and trying to shift those populations to schools not as crowded.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed-FCPS-FY-2025-29-CIP.pdf


Langley at 98% capacity and Herndon at 71% should have great falls worried


You’re using last year’s numbers. Enrollment is down a lot at Langley, they can absorb the McLean attendance island without going above capacity.


There are two Mclean attendance islands, and they are most definitely on the block to be absorbed.


I know, but the one to its south isn’t going to Langley because that’d be an even worse attendance island.



The one should go to Falls Church HS, then they might actually put some money in that school and it would raise its performance overall. The other should go to Marshall. The would be help in equity.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe the comprehensive review is necessary or wanted by community members. That said, I think that people who are trying to save their own kids at the expense of others by arguing for boundary changes and grandfathering are engaged in a morally bankrupt attempt to throw other Fcps students under the bus.

If you want your kids to be grandfathered, then you should be opposed to the comprehensive review altogether.


If the proposed changes are widespread enough, grandfathering won’t even be feasible. If they had committed to grandfathering in advance that would put an effective ceiling on the number of kids they could move based on transportation constraints.

This School Board is a perfect storm of very radical and extremely stupid. When the sh*t really hits the fan next year they will get quite a wake-up call. If you’ve seen how inept Michelle Reid looked addressing the Hayfield debacle, rest assured that was just the warm-up act.


Lets say that you have a high achieving kid rezoned from WSHS to Lewis. Lets say they to calc BC, AP chem, AP english comp, AP US, and AP bio as a junior. That's a hard schedule, but not uncommon among top students. What does that student take as a senior? They're ineligible for an IB diploma. The math won't align, IB science and english are two part sequences and they haven't taken the first part. Does the board really expect that kid to take a full schedule of inappropriate classes?


Not to mention the top students are likely heading into AP foreign language, often AP German.



German? That’s the least likely language most top students will be taking. Russian, French, Latin, Chinese.
DP
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Question: Has any "suggestions" been made about particular moves? Or is everyone just confused?

Do we have theories on who would be moved?


So the starting point would be the schools that are severely overcrowded. Taking those schools and trying to shift those populations to schools not as crowded.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed-FCPS-FY-2025-29-CIP.pdf


Langley at 98% capacity and Herndon at 71% should have great falls worried


Nope. Westfield to Herndon first.


I say leave McLean, Westfield, and Chantilly alone.

McLean needs a renovation plan, not a boundary change. McLean kids deserve better than to be treated as a foil for moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon.

The Westfield kids who would move to Herndon (Coates) would further drive up the poverty at HHS. That doesn’t seem too smart.

Chantilly kids can move, if necessary, after Centreville has been expanded.


Ummm, you realize the only pretext for moving Great Falls to HHS is if they move some of McLean to Langley? Langley is under capacity. McLean kids wouldn’t be the foil in any way shape or form.

Gotta get your facts straight before trying to stir up a hornets nest.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Question: Has any "suggestions" been made about particular moves? Or is everyone just confused?

Do we have theories on who would be moved?


So the starting point would be the schools that are severely overcrowded. Taking those schools and trying to shift those populations to schools not as crowded.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed-FCPS-FY-2025-29-CIP.pdf


Langley at 98% capacity and Herndon at 71% should have great falls worried


Nope. Westfield to Herndon first.


I say leave McLean, Westfield, and Chantilly alone.

McLean needs a renovation plan, not a boundary change. McLean kids deserve better than to be treated as a foil for moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon.

The Westfield kids who would move to Herndon (Coates) would further drive up the poverty at HHS. That doesn’t seem too smart.

Chantilly kids can move, if necessary, after Centreville has been expanded.


Ummm, you realize the only pretext for moving Great Falls to HHS is if they move some of McLean to Langley? Langley is under capacity. McLean kids wouldn’t be the foil in any way shape or form.

Gotta get your facts straight before trying to stir up a hornets nest.


McLean kids do not want to go to Langley.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe the comprehensive review is necessary or wanted by community members. That said, I think that people who are trying to save their own kids at the expense of others by arguing for boundary changes and grandfathering are engaged in a morally bankrupt attempt to throw other Fcps students under the bus.

If you want your kids to be grandfathered, then you should be opposed to the comprehensive review altogether.


If the proposed changes are widespread enough, grandfathering won’t even be feasible. If they had committed to grandfathering in advance that would put an effective ceiling on the number of kids they could move based on transportation constraints.

This School Board is a perfect storm of very radical and extremely stupid. When the sh*t really hits the fan next year they will get quite a wake-up call. If you’ve seen how inept Michelle Reid looked addressing the Hayfield debacle, rest assured that was just the warm-up act.


Lets say that you have a high achieving kid rezoned from WSHS to Lewis. Lets say they to calc BC, AP chem, AP english comp, AP US, and AP bio as a junior. That's a hard schedule, but not uncommon among top students. What does that student take as a senior? They're ineligible for an IB diploma. The math won't align, IB science and english are two part sequences and they haven't taken the first part. Does the board really expect that kid to take a full schedule of inappropriate classes?


Not to mention the top students are likely heading into AP foreign language, often AP German.



German? That’s the least likely language most top students will be taking. Russian, French, Latin, Chinese.
DP


German is the WSHS language, gets you out of Lewis.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe the comprehensive review is necessary or wanted by community members. That said, I think that people who are trying to save their own kids at the expense of others by arguing for boundary changes and grandfathering are engaged in a morally bankrupt attempt to throw other Fcps students under the bus.

If you want your kids to be grandfathered, then you should be opposed to the comprehensive review altogether.


If the proposed changes are widespread enough, grandfathering won’t even be feasible. If they had committed to grandfathering in advance that would put an effective ceiling on the number of kids they could move based on transportation constraints.

This School Board is a perfect storm of very radical and extremely stupid. When the sh*t really hits the fan next year they will get quite a wake-up call. If you’ve seen how inept Michelle Reid looked addressing the Hayfield debacle, rest assured that was just the warm-up act.


Lets say that you have a high achieving kid rezoned from WSHS to Lewis. Lets say they to calc BC, AP chem, AP english comp, AP US, and AP bio as a junior. That's a hard schedule, but not uncommon among top students. What does that student take as a senior? They're ineligible for an IB diploma. The math won't align, IB science and english are two part sequences and they haven't taken the first part. Does the board really expect that kid to take a full schedule of inappropriate classes?


Not to mention the top students are likely heading into AP foreign language, often AP German.



German? That’s the least likely language most top students will be taking. Russian, French, Latin, Chinese.
DP


You are responding to a post specifically about WSHS to Lewis.

WSHS is the German immersion pyramid.

Many of the top students take German through AP level.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Question: Has any "suggestions" been made about particular moves? Or is everyone just confused?

Do we have theories on who would be moved?


So the starting point would be the schools that are severely overcrowded. Taking those schools and trying to shift those populations to schools not as crowded.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed-FCPS-FY-2025-29-CIP.pdf


Langley at 98% capacity and Herndon at 71% should have great falls worried


Nope. Westfield to Herndon first.


I say leave McLean, Westfield, and Chantilly alone.

McLean needs a renovation plan, not a boundary change. McLean kids deserve better than to be treated as a foil for moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon.

The Westfield kids who would move to Herndon (Coates) would further drive up the poverty at HHS. That doesn’t seem too smart.

Chantilly kids can move, if necessary, after Centreville has been expanded.


Ummm, you realize the only pretext for moving Great Falls to HHS is if they move some of McLean to Langley? Langley is under capacity. McLean kids wouldn’t be the foil in any way shape or form.

Gotta get your facts straight before trying to stir up a hornets nest.


McLean kids do not want to go to Langley.


I get it, and if that’s true, they should get loud to oppose redistricting. Then we can pivot to getting them their long overdue addition.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Question: Has any "suggestions" been made about particular moves? Or is everyone just confused?

Do we have theories on who would be moved?


So the starting point would be the schools that are severely overcrowded. Taking those schools and trying to shift those populations to schools not as crowded.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed-FCPS-FY-2025-29-CIP.pdf


Langley at 98% capacity and Herndon at 71% should have great falls worried


Nope. Westfield to Herndon first.


I say leave McLean, Westfield, and Chantilly alone.

McLean needs a renovation plan, not a boundary change. McLean kids deserve better than to be treated as a foil for moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon.

The Westfield kids who would move to Herndon (Coates) would further drive up the poverty at HHS. That doesn’t seem too smart.

Chantilly kids can move, if necessary, after Centreville has been expanded.


Ummm, you realize the only pretext for moving Great Falls to HHS is if they move some of McLean to Langley? Langley is under capacity. McLean kids wouldn’t be the foil in any way shape or form.

Gotta get your facts straight before trying to stir up a hornets nest.


McLean kids do not want to go to Langley.


I get it, and if that’s true, they should get loud to oppose redistricting. Then we can pivot to getting them their long overdue addition.


Why should those families care? Their get Langley or McLean, either way, they are fine. Look at the boundary line between Herndon and Langley- all of those Langley juts into Henrdon make almost no practical sense
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Question: Has any "suggestions" been made about particular moves? Or is everyone just confused?

Do we have theories on who would be moved?


So the starting point would be the schools that are severely overcrowded. Taking those schools and trying to shift those populations to schools not as crowded.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed-FCPS-FY-2025-29-CIP.pdf


Langley at 98% capacity and Herndon at 71% should have great falls worried


Nope. Westfield to Herndon first.


I say leave McLean, Westfield, and Chantilly alone.

McLean needs a renovation plan, not a boundary change. McLean kids deserve better than to be treated as a foil for moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon.

The Westfield kids who would move to Herndon (Coates) would further drive up the poverty at HHS. That doesn’t seem too smart.

Chantilly kids can move, if necessary, after Centreville has been expanded.


Ummm, you realize the only pretext for moving Great Falls to HHS is if they move some of McLean to Langley? Langley is under capacity. McLean kids wouldn’t be the foil in any way shape or form.

Gotta get your facts straight before trying to stir up a hornets nest.


McLean kids do not want to go to Langley.


I get it, and if that’s true, they should get loud to oppose redistricting. Then we can pivot to getting them their long overdue addition.


Why should those families care? Their get Langley or McLean, either way, they are fine. Look at the boundary line between Herndon and Langley- all of those Langley juts into Henrdon make almost no practical sense


Because students don’t want to be redistricted just to placate your desire for equity.

Believe it or not, students are not fungible.
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