| I know this upsets the lock everyone up group, but you assume risks to live in a society like ours. A totalitarian state very well may be better at controlling something like this— doesn’t mean we should do what they’re doing. Freedom does come with some costs |
Oh yeah. What would you have us do? |
Honestly, what do you suggest? |
Im just saying what I think we need to do to get our arms around this thing. You’re right though. As Jefferson said, The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure So maybe the Coronavirus is the blood of patriots. I just hope we can limit the amount lost. |
What does this mean? Does it mean we're on track for the worst case scenario? |
Stay at home. For real. Buy food for a while and stay home. Close car dealerships, close all restaurants, place military on streets. No work, no post office, no seeing your friends for the young crowd. Only open absolutely necessary grocery stores and pharmacies and utilities works. Why the heck are there packed parking lots at Costco at 2pm??? Most people bought enough by now. Other countries have their family member that goes out for groceries strip down upon entering home and shower right away. Here people are going out for hot sauce and when kids want chic fila. What a joke. |
This is so unamerican. If you can’t live with some risk then you should move to a place with the totalitarian government you desire |
So being American means having chic fila when you feel like it, regardless of it possibly killing someone? Your own, or if you are asymptomatic someone from the restaurant? Being American means don't protect yourself and others? Risk lives of women giving birth at this time? Killing cancer patients who can't get treatment as hospitals are overrun and ac spreads the virus through the ducts? Risking your mom dying alone for 20 days without you seeing her at all? |
Ummm.... like maybe the things that have been proven to work in other countries? Testing, contact tracing, quarantine. Adequate PPE and ventilators and other medical supplies would be a good start, too. Countries that were on the ball haven't had to shut down (Taiwan, Singapore, HK). We dropped the ball when we just let everyone in from infected areas with no quarantines. Google pandemic playbook. The US had a great plan in place to manage these situations. They just trashed it and decided to deny and hide. Now we have inadequate funds for any kind of mitigation. |
Seriously this. It’s called the Hammer. Later we dance. |
You’re proposing to put the army on the streets and shut the down country. Chick fil a has nothing to do with this |
Ok, but here's the rest of the story, absent extreme measures to curtail: How a pandemic spreads exponentially: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgBla7RepXU |
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Search on YouTube Chinese city goes from 96 cases to zero
That's how, and they are eating in restaurants now. |
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From 83 infected to 0, what did this Chinese city do to contain the virus?
Search it up. |
+100 |