Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing matters. Kavanaugh will be a Supreme Court justice by the end of next week. Hasta la vista Roe v. Wade.

Wanna bet? I am 98% confident Kavanaugh will be old news by Monday.

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I do but fully believe that the guys might not.have thought they were raping anyone. I dont believe the implied intent behind that phrasing but absolutely believe that they had parties where girls were gotten drunk and tossed around.

To add to this...I think this is what makes us so uncomfortable about this. We dont feel in our guts it is fair to punish someone for something bad they didn't know they were doing

I'm not uncomfortable. Did parents sit their kids down and say, HEY, if your date is drunk and passed out, don't have sex with her? That is WRONG.
No, I don't think parents did that back then. But that doesn't mean that they didn't know they were doing a bad thing. We don't tell our kids not to eat the dog either, but they somehow figure it out.

They knew:

...heavily intoxicated, she laid in the grass until she felt someone kiss and grope her. “I was so drunk that, at first, I thought it was my crush,” she said, but it was one of his friends from Georgetown Day. Another one of his friends realized that she was too drunk to know what was going on, and told the boy to “cut it out,” she recalls. He didn’t relent at first, but the friend got closer and told him to get off of her. He stopped, and he and her boyfriend left. The friend stayed behind with the Holton girl until she sobered up. “Neither of us spoke about it to anyone,” she said. “I messaged him this week to thank him for being brave enough to stand up to his friends.”

The man, who still lives in D.C., confirmed the account to me. He told me that he was shocked at the time to be put in that situation, but was not surprised in general. “I knew things like this happened, and that women were casually taken advantage of all the time, especially in these circles,” he said. “Guys were fully aware of what they were doing. They had just been raised in a world where consequences did not exist, and they had not been properly taught about consent or how to respect women. I don’t think men are born with an innate lack of respect for women. It is a learned behavior.”

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/09/holton-arms-alumnae-ford-accusations-kavanaugh

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Anonymous wrote:Do any of you actually believe this “rape train” gang rape allegation?

Of course not.

I do but fully believe that the guys might not.have thought they were raping anyone. I dont believe the implied intent behind that phrasing but absolutely believe that they had parties where girls were gotten drunk and tossed around.

To add to this...I think this is what makes us so uncomfortable about this. We dont feel in our guts it is fair to punish someone for something bad they didn't know they were doing

OMFG.

I can't even believe you think a guy doesn't know he's raping a girl when he STOOD IN LINE TO HAVE SEX WITH HER.

You don't line up to have sex? I guess no one told that to Kavanaugh. He was so busy being a good friend, he just thought he was following the rules on this one.

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Yes, so what?

She didn’t include this on her resume. The part about her working for this company were scrubbed from media accounts of her story.
And, Katz was her attorney.

Strange? You bet.

No it isn’t! I don’t list the job I was sexually harassed and filed a complaint either.

DP. Odd that Katz was her attorney. Did Katz, knowing her original client's story is falling apart, start calling former clients who had been sexually harrassed and would be willing to fabricate a story? Very odd connection.

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Anonymous wrote:Do any of you actually believe this “rape train” gang rape allegation?

Of course not.

I do but fully believe that the guys might not.have thought they were raping anyone. I dont believe the implied intent behind that phrasing but absolutely believe that they had parties where girls were gotten drunk and tossed around.

To add to this...I think this is what makes us so uncomfortable about this. We dont feel in our guts it is fair to punish someone for something bad they didn't know they were doing

OMFG.

I can't even believe you think a guy doesn't know he's raping a girl when he STOOD IN LINE TO HAVE SEX WITH HER.

You don't line up to have sex? I guess no one told that to Kavanaugh. He was so busy being a good friend, he just thought he was following the rules on this one.

OMFG. You people are talking about this as if it was true.

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Anonymous wrote:I like some of trump’s policies,although I didn’t vote for him. I also don’t care how many porn stars he’s slept with as long as it was all consensual. I guess I’m a moderate suburban housewife. I didn’t really have strong feelings about Kavanaugh one way or another. In fact I thought he might be more moderate than other options and maybe that was good.

But to me it seems these women who have come forward have a lot to lose, and are getting hit pretty hard. I don’t see much that they have to gain vs what they are losing/risking. What is the Kavanaugh explanation for their motives? And please let’s not hear the mistaken identity or ‘twilight zone’ nonsense.

I find it unlikely they have all been recruited as part of some liberal conspiracy that somehow found women who grew up in Bethesda in the 80’s and convinced them to lie ‘for the good of the party.’ Do people really think these women are conspiring against him and lying because they feel so strongly about the Supreme Court that they are willing to drag themselves and their families through this? Or do people think they are being paid off by pelosi or something, or what??

When I hear the ‘Democrats are ruining this guy’s reputation’.
Does this mean you believe the women who came forward are part of a democratic conspiracy? That Democrats are paying them off? What exactly does that mean?

Seems like, outside of some pretty strange conspiracy theories, and coupled with the evidence of his own friends and yearbook accounts of partying and drinking - their stories are pretty plausible. Why would he brag in his yearbook about sleeping with Renata and then now claim he was a virgin? Even if he was just posturing then why doesn’t he admit that now and apologize?

I get that people are mad, but shouldn’t you be mad at the poor vetting that got this heavy drinking/heavy spending/ bad friends guy this far? I’m not a fan of pelosi/Feinstein, but I don’t really get how this is their fault?

I think I would disagree with you on many, many things, but on this you are correct and I thank you for your words. Look behind more of the GOP smears against these women - there is a terrible misogyny behind their words, one that we can barely see for having swum in it our whole lives, like fish. A fish can’t see the water, but it’s there.

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Anonymous wrote:What was this college student doing partying with high schoolers with whom she hadn't even gone to high school with? In what bizarro world does that happen?

When it is a party that the younger high schoolers have crashed. Maybe it was recent GP grads home for break who had the party - she was at Montgomery College apparently at the time.

Way to blame the victim. College students do hang out with high schoolers from time to time.

Yeah, I was HS class of '83, my brother was '80, we used to go to some of the same parties.

That at least makes sense. You ran in the same circles. Where did this person come from? Nobody knows who she is.

"Nobody"? Where do you get that?

The high school contemporaries of Kavanaugh in their letter to Grassley and Feinstein said that they "do not recall having ever met" Swetnick and defended Kavanaugh as a "good man."

"In the extensive amount of time we collectively spent with Brett, we do not recall having ever met someone named Julie Swetnick," they wrote. "Nor did we ever observe Brett engaging in any conduct resembling that described in Ms. Swetnick’s declaration."


https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/408615-over-60-high-school-contemporaries-of-kavanaugh-rebut-new-allegations

She knew someone involved in these prep schools well enough to show up to 10 parties where she claims Kavanaugh was, so who was her connection to give her the heads up to go these parties? Seems someone in orbit would come out and remember her.

A young adult at Montgomery College would not be going to parties with prep school boys from GP.

Yep if you are driving all the way to Bethesda or upper NW from Gaithersburgs, you would go to Georgetown, 9:30 club, Rumors or some other place like that.

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The guy who called in the Rhode Island boat incident has since recanted on twitter (definitely his account because the testimony from yesterday on page 37 https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/09.25.18%20BMK%20Interview%20Transcript%20(Redacted).pdf references a tweet dated June 27 2018 from his account).

He posted 2 hours ago:
"Do everyone who is going crazy about what I had said I have recanted because I have made a mistake and apologize for such mistake"

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Yes, so what?

She didn’t include this on her resume. The part about her working for this company were scrubbed from media accounts of her story.
And, Katz was her attorney.

Strange? You bet.

No it isn’t! I don’t list the job I was sexually harassed and filed a complaint either.

DP. Odd that Katz was her attorney. Did Katz, knowing her original client's story is falling apart, start calling former clients who had been sexually harrassed and would be willing to fabricate a story? Very odd connection.

So you are speculating that she would lie for an attorney under oath, but neither are smart enough to remember a prior relationship? But she is ok with being ripped apart by the GOP and Trump supporters? Sure, seems likely!!

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Anonymous wrote:From the WSJ:

Yes, so what?

She didn’t include this on her resume. The part about her working for this company were scrubbed from media accounts of her story.
And, Katz was her attorney.

Strange? You bet.

No it isn’t! I don’t list the job I was sexually harassed and filed a complaint either.

DP. Odd that Katz was her attorney. Did Katz, knowing her original client's story is falling apart, start calling former clients who had been sexually harrassed and would be willing to fabricate a story? Very odd connection.

It's a sexual harassment firm. It's what they do.

https://www.kmblegal.com

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Anonymous wrote:Do any of you actually believe this “rape train” gang rape allegation?

Of course not.

I do but fully believe that the guys might not.have thought they were raping anyone. I dont believe the implied intent behind that phrasing but absolutely believe that they had parties where girls were gotten drunk and tossed around.

To add to this...I think this is what makes us so uncomfortable about this. We dont feel in our guts it is fair to punish someone for something bad they didn't know they were doing

OMFG.

I can't even believe you think a guy doesn't know he's raping a girl when he STOOD IN LINE TO HAVE SEX WITH HER.

You don't line up to have sex? I guess no one told that to Kavanaugh. He was so busy being a good friend, he just thought he was following the rules on this one.

OMFG. You people are talking about this as if it was true.

Just out of curiosity, is it this specific charge of gang rape that you don’t believe, or do you deny that this practice occurs in America?

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Anonymous wrote:Since Ford is afraid to fly, did she begin her cross-country drive 5 days ago?

She also had her polygraph done in MD on Aug. 7. Wondering if she flew or drive. I know she was vacationing on the east coast during this time, according to the letter she gave to Feinstein.

Finally, someone is asking the important questions.
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Once a person is caught telling one lie, it throws their entire testimony into question. Why did she say she was afraid to fly? Just an excuse to not have tot testify under oath?

Exactly. Yet she easily flew out here for the pussy march.

She never said she was afraid to fly. People surmised it because she delined to come to DC on Monday.

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A new report just came out that provides information on Judge Brett Kavanaugh’s third accuser. The report suggests that Julie Swetnick’s ex-boyfriend filed a restraining order against her for some disturbing violence-related issues. This was back in 2001.

A) What does this have to do with her accusations?

B) For anyone who asks why women don't come forward with accusations, here's your reason: the accuser's life becomes subject to scrutiny.

As well it should. She apparently was nuts enough for an ex to file a restraining order against her.

I sense a pattern. When a woman makes an accusation, she's nuts. When a man makes an accusation, clearly the woman is in the wrong.

Let's just have the investigation and get it over with. This back and forth is going nowhere. If people want to get to the bottom of who is telling the truth, and let's face it, most Americans do care about this right now, we should have it out fully. Then move on. The Republicans are doing themselves no favors by just seeming as if they will do anything to get this guy seated, no matter what anyone says.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that he refuses to withdraw no matter what the circumstance tells us everything. This person is a political animal looking to elevate his own stature with no regard for popular opinion and what is actually good for this country. Therefore I doubt he will be able to display the impartiality that is basically the core of being a capable and respectable judge. (I'm talking about BK, not the entire Republican party). Trying to be respectful here.

No. If he withdraws... he is guilty in the minds of liberals.
He will fight this fight to maintain his reputation, his character, and his integrity. I would expect no less.

+ 1 million When DCUM posters are already calling him a rapist and guilty of assault and attempted murder, it's clear they would use his withdrawal from the process as affirmation of his guilt.

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Anonymous wrote:The guy who called in the Rhode Island boat incident has since recanted on twitter (definitely his account because the testimony from yesterday on page 37 https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/09.25.18%20BMK%20Interview%20Transcript%20(Redacted).pdf references a tweet dated June 27 2018 from his account).

He posted 2 hours ago:
"Do everyone who is going crazy about what I had said I have recanted because I have made a mistake and apologize for such mistake"

I'm not surprised by this.

But Dr. Ford's allegation was enough to warrant a FBI investigation.