Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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Anonymous wrote:What reason have the "rooted in Oakton" people given for staying at Oakton--other than that is what they want?

As for purchasing a house for the schools, that could apply to any of the people who do not want to move.

Anyone with a brain can see that it is ridiculous to send kids 10 to 12 miles away over a school that is 2 to 3 miles away.

It is safer and cheaper to send them to the new school. Why should the taxpayers continue to pay to bus these kids on long bus rides that cost lots more dollars to the school system? The bus drivers cannot make as many runs. It requires more buses because of this. It requires more bus drivers. It requires more maintenance. It requires more gas/energy.

This is not a straight 10-12 mile route. It either requires getting on 50 to I66--heavily trafficked, or taking winding and hilly back roads which are also heavily trafficked.

This may be the stupidest choice Reid is making.

That is just simple logic.

Their reasons as per the meeting at the school and the school board meeting where they had a few speakers have been a joke:
1. We bought our homes because of Oakton (so what? that's a risk)
2. Our kids' middle school friends are ALL going to Oakton (um, only if your kid is in AAP and even then, only like 1/3 of those kids are going to Oakton. For normal kids, none of their new friends are going to Oakton)
3. Our kids play in sports and do activities with only kids going to Oakton (um, nope, your kids play in CYA or CYA-affiliated clubs and most CYA kids go to Chantilly or Westfield)
4. Oakton is much closer to our homes (um, nope)
5. Crossing Fairfax County Parkway is dangerous (um, your kids do it for Carson, not to mention that the drive to Oakton is far more dangerous, kids either get on the highway or have to drive on windy narrow roads)

These RIO parents are borderline psychotic!

They’re reasoning SCREAMS angry 2 year old throwing a fit on the floor of a Costco.

Same with those Crossfield parents who want to go to Western and try to silence Fox Mill’s voice. It must be in the water over there.

So, what’s funny is that the Fox Mill Neighborhood is shared between Crossfield and Fox Mill, with the border line being perpendicular to reign street.

And let me jog the Crossfield Parents who want to move into western silencing the voices of Fox Mill parents’ short-span memories.

In 2009, a contentious boundary change was done when Fox Mill was moved from Oakton to South Lakes.

Fox Mill has grown into South Lakes, but shows strong desires to move into Western even though the school itself at 2611 Viking Drive is Equidistant between Western and South Lakes.

So as contentious as it was, Fox Mill moved to a much closer school than Oakton, and can move to a school that aligns more with its identity.

Crossfield can move to, and it will settle in, and they can share the school with Fox Mill.

But thanks to Melanie Meren and RIO moms, Crossfield and Fox Mill are no longer under consideration to move to Western.

And thanks to the Superintendent for not properly planning out what she was to do with the school (rezoning from a private school to a public school, yes), planned out modifications to the main and shell buildings with the addition of proper VHSL athletic fields (baseball diamonds, tennis courts, a soccer field [one is already provided on the site], and a proper football stadium), then setting a boundary, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

Michelle Reid is an incompetent liar.

Her and her arsenal of idiots need to leave because she has little to no follow through on anything she does, she’s ineffective, and her doorknob cronies are no better.

She’s an old lady who probably should be retired and moved back to Washington State!

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Anonymous wrote:What reason have the "rooted in Oakton" people given for staying at Oakton--other than that is what they want?

As for purchasing a house for the schools, that could apply to any of the people who do not want to move.

Anyone with a brain can see that it is ridiculous to send kids 10 to 12 miles away over a school that is 2 to 3 miles away.

It is safer and cheaper to send them to the new school. Why should the taxpayers continue to pay to bus these kids on long bus rides that cost lots more dollars to the school system? The bus drivers cannot make as many runs. It requires more buses because of this. It requires more bus drivers. It requires more maintenance. It requires more gas/energy.

This is not a straight 10-12 mile route. It either requires getting on 50 to I66--heavily trafficked, or taking winding and hilly back roads which are also heavily trafficked.

This may be the stupidest choice Reid is making.

That is just simple logic.

It’s simple. The RIO people think they are better than the people who will end up at the new high school, and thus they deserve what they perceive to be a better school (Oakton). They will say their BS about preparing for Oakton, having bought a home zoned for Oakton, their community is in Oakton, that Oakton is currently not overcrowded. That is all a cover for what they won’t say out loud unless they think you are one of them. Certain Oakton people do not want their kids around the kids they think will be at the new school. It’s the same as the Langley situation. Some people who work for the county are some of the worst in saying disparaging things about kids from other schools. Parents hear things from people “on the inside” and get scared.

RIO will be more than happy to advocate for Lees Corner to move to the new school so they don’t have to. If or when a map with a commenting function comes out, they will be all over it.

I hope Lees Corner parents are paying attention. RIO is ready to steamroll right over you to get what they want.

Ironic. These people send their kids to Oakton. The high school will have similar FARMS. I think it is about sports.

It's about not wanting to leave a highly ranked HS for an unknown HS. It might be about sports. Oakton has an excellent academic reputation with great clubs. Parents probably don't want to give that up for a school that currently has nothing.

The Oak Hill families I know are not excited about leaving Chantilly for similar reasons. Same for SLHS, there are people who don't want to leave for the unknown. The Principal at Western flat out said that he knows people are worried about opting in because they don't know what the school is going to look like, it is a risk.

Some people see the positives and are more risk acceptant then others.

Ok, but someone has to go to the new school. Is there a reason Oakton families should be shielded from uncertainty over others with similar concerns? See where the logic breaks down?

Because Crossfield has screamed to not go to Western and other schools have been fine with the idea. The main school complaining about moving has been Crossfield. Other schools have been happy, Floris, resigned but not awfully annoyed, Chantilly, quiet, McNair and Coates, and content with the idea of moving, Fox Mill. While there is solid logic to Crossfield moving, I am not denying that, the only community who has actively tried to avoid moving has been Crossfield.

I get that you want to move and that there is a community at Crossfield that wants to move but your PTO has been meeting with everyone, including Reid, saying they don't want to move while others have been meeting saying they do want to move or not saying much at all.

If Lees Corner gets rezoned in a new option I suspect they are going to push back on it. And they will have a valid argument of being much closer to Chantilly than Crossfield people are to Oakton. This will be the true test of whether the school board uses logic or just listens to the biggest whiners.

Again, someone has to go to the new school. They laid out criteria for determining who should go. Crossfield wants to defy logic and practical considerations. Perhaps the school communities that have been quiet are simply less entitled.

What criteria?

The criteria for the comprehensive boundary review do NOT necessarily apply here. These are two separate processes.

Review all the slides. The criteria are not the same. The only important criterion for Western HS is to relieve overcrowding at Chantilly, Centreville, and Westfield.

Oakton and SLHS were only included because they are nearby.

You can argue which schools need relief, but since you brought up the criteria, I’m referring to what is actually on the slides.

As for Crossfield, keeping them in Oakton is not as illogical as you believe.

Sure, somebody has to go to the new school. But what if there are many families who don’t mind sending their kids to Western?

A hypothetical but very likely scenario: Let’s say most Crossfield families want to stay, but many other communities want to go to Western High.

Should elected officials force Crossfield to go to Western against their will and keep some other communities out of the Western boundary against their will?

I think the elected officials should absolutely listen to constituents’ input.

Maybe this concept is foreign to you, but it’s called “democracy.”

Sure, this may end up with long commutes and slightly more gas money, but remember: democracy doesn’t always result in the most efficient outcome.

But, Oakton and South Lakes were part of the original discussions after the purchase

During the vote to purchase--if you watched the work sessions and School Board meetings.
Frisch and McDaniel both brought up the very long commute to Oakton.
It was also pointed out that Oakton went over capacity this year and is expected to grow with all the new construction nearby.
So, Oakton was not just thrown into the mix. It was part of the mix.

Yes it is a part of mix.

But the stated goal per the presentation and the webpage is to reduce the enrollment of Chantilly, Westfield, and Centreville.

That’s it.

You are selectively ignoring emails from school board members to constituents that also mentioned commute times. Remember that several board members still feel strongly that middle school should not start so early. Keeping kids at schools far from home does not help move them towards their goal of streamlining transportation. The school board members have their opinions and perspectives independent of whatever one of Reid’s staff put on some slides. We have all seen that the communication between Reid and the board is dysfunctional. The slides are not necessarily a full reflection of what the board will discuss.

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Anonymous wrote:What reason have the "rooted in Oakton" people given for staying at Oakton--other than that is what they want?

As for purchasing a house for the schools, that could apply to any of the people who do not want to move.

Anyone with a brain can see that it is ridiculous to send kids 10 to 12 miles away over a school that is 2 to 3 miles away.

It is safer and cheaper to send them to the new school. Why should the taxpayers continue to pay to bus these kids on long bus rides that cost lots more dollars to the school system? The bus drivers cannot make as many runs. It requires more buses because of this. It requires more bus drivers. It requires more maintenance. It requires more gas/energy.

This is not a straight 10-12 mile route. It either requires getting on 50 to I66--heavily trafficked, or taking winding and hilly back roads which are also heavily trafficked.

This may be the stupidest choice Reid is making.

That is just simple logic.

Their reasons as per the meeting at the school and the school board meeting where they had a few speakers have been a joke:
1. We bought our homes because of Oakton (so what? that's a risk)
2. Our kids' middle school friends are ALL going to Oakton (um, only if your kid is in AAP and even then, only like 1/3 of those kids are going to Oakton. For normal kids, none of their new friends are going to Oakton)
3. Our kids play in sports and do activities with only kids going to Oakton (um, nope, your kids play in CYA or CYA-affiliated clubs and most CYA kids go to Chantilly or Westfield)
4. Oakton is much closer to our homes (um, nope)
5. Crossing Fairfax County Parkway is dangerous (um, your kids do it for Carson, not to mention that the drive to Oakton is far more dangerous, kids either get on the highway or have to drive on windy narrow roads)

These RIO parents are borderline psychotic!

They’re reasoning SCREAMS angry 2 year old throwing a fit on the floor of a Costco.

Same with those Crossfield parents who want to go to Western and try to silence Fox Mill’s voice. It must be in the water over there.

So, what’s funny is that the Fox Mill Neighborhood is shared between Crossfield and Fox Mill, with the border line being perpendicular to reign street.

And let me jog the Crossfield Parents who want to move into western silencing the voices of Fox Mill parents’ short-span memories.

In 2009, a contentious boundary change was done when Fox Mill was moved from Oakton to South Lakes.

Fox Mill has grown into South Lakes, but shows strong desires to move into Western even though the school itself at 2611 Viking Drive is Equidistant between Western and South Lakes.

So as contentious as it was, Fox Mill moved to a much closer school than Oakton, and can move to a school that aligns more with its identity.

Crossfield can move to, and it will settle in, and they can share the school with Fox Mill.

But thanks to Melanie Meren and RIO moms, Crossfield and Fox Mill are no longer under consideration to move to Western.

And thanks to the Superintendent for not properly planning out what she was to do with the school (rezoning from a private school to a public school, yes), planned out modifications to the main and shell buildings with the addition of proper VHSL athletic fields (baseball diamonds, tennis courts, a soccer field [one is already provided on the site], and a proper football stadium), then setting a boundary, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

Michelle Reid is an incompetent liar.

Her and her arsenal of idiots need to leave because she has little to no follow through on anything she does, she’s ineffective, and her doorknob cronies are no better.

She’s an old lady who probably should be retired and moved back to Washington State!

It is truly the height of stupidity to leave out not one but TWO elementary schools close to a new high school, all because Reid can’t stand up to whiners. Aren’t we all raising our children to learn that whining isn’t the way to get what we want? She is incentivizing it.

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Anonymous wrote:What reason have the "rooted in Oakton" people given for staying at Oakton--other than that is what they want?

As for purchasing a house for the schools, that could apply to any of the people who do not want to move.

Anyone with a brain can see that it is ridiculous to send kids 10 to 12 miles away over a school that is 2 to 3 miles away.

It is safer and cheaper to send them to the new school. Why should the taxpayers continue to pay to bus these kids on long bus rides that cost lots more dollars to the school system? The bus drivers cannot make as many runs. It requires more buses because of this. It requires more bus drivers. It requires more maintenance. It requires more gas/energy.

This is not a straight 10-12 mile route. It either requires getting on 50 to I66--heavily trafficked, or taking winding and hilly back roads which are also heavily trafficked.

This may be the stupidest choice Reid is making.

That is just simple logic.

It’s simple. The RIO people think they are better than the people who will end up at the new high school, and thus they deserve what they perceive to be a better school (Oakton). They will say their BS about preparing for Oakton, having bought a home zoned for Oakton, their community is in Oakton, that Oakton is currently not overcrowded. That is all a cover for what they won’t say out loud unless they think you are one of them. Certain Oakton people do not want their kids around the kids they think will be at the new school. It’s the same as the Langley situation. Some people who work for the county are some of the worst in saying disparaging things about kids from other schools. Parents hear things from people “on the inside” and get scared.

RIO will be more than happy to advocate for Lees Corner to move to the new school so they don’t have to. If or when a map with a commenting function comes out, they will be all over it.

I hope Lees Corner parents are paying attention. RIO is ready to steamroll right over you to get what they want.

Ironic. These people send their kids to Oakton. The high school will have similar FARMS. I think it is about sports.

It's about not wanting to leave a highly ranked HS for an unknown HS. It might be about sports. Oakton has an excellent academic reputation with great clubs. Parents probably don't want to give that up for a school that currently has nothing.

The Oak Hill families I know are not excited about leaving Chantilly for similar reasons. Same for SLHS, there are people who don't want to leave for the unknown. The Principal at Western flat out said that he knows people are worried about opting in because they don't know what the school is going to look like, it is a risk.

Some people see the positives and are more risk acceptant then others.

Ok, but someone has to go to the new school. Is there a reason Oakton families should be shielded from uncertainty over others with similar concerns? See where the logic breaks down?

Because Crossfield has screamed to not go to Western and other schools have been fine with the idea. The main school complaining about moving has been Crossfield. Other schools have been happy, Floris, resigned but not awfully annoyed, Chantilly, quiet, McNair and Coates, and content with the idea of moving, Fox Mill. While there is solid logic to Crossfield moving, I am not denying that, the only community who has actively tried to avoid moving has been Crossfield.

I get that you want to move and that there is a community at Crossfield that wants to move but your PTO has been meeting with everyone, including Reid, saying they don't want to move while others have been meeting saying they do want to move or not saying much at all.

If Lees Corner gets rezoned in a new option I suspect they are going to push back on it. And they will have a valid argument of being much closer to Chantilly than Crossfield people are to Oakton. This will be the true test of whether the school board uses logic or just listens to the biggest whiners.

Again, someone has to go to the new school. They laid out criteria for determining who should go. Crossfield wants to defy logic and practical considerations. Perhaps the school communities that have been quiet are simply less entitled.

What criteria?

The criteria for the comprehensive boundary review do NOT necessarily apply here. These are two separate processes.

Review all the slides. The criteria are not the same. The only important criterion for Western HS is to relieve overcrowding at Chantilly, Centreville, and Westfield.

Oakton and SLHS were only included because they are nearby.

You can argue which schools need relief, but since you brought up the criteria, I’m referring to what is actually on the slides.

As for Crossfield, keeping them in Oakton is not as illogical as you believe.

Sure, somebody has to go to the new school. But what if there are many families who don’t mind sending their kids to Western?

A hypothetical but very likely scenario: Let’s say most Crossfield families want to stay, but many other communities want to go to Western High.

Should elected officials force Crossfield to go to Western against their will and keep some other communities out of the Western boundary against their will?

I think the elected officials should absolutely listen to constituents’ input.

Maybe this concept is foreign to you, but it’s called “democracy.”

Sure, this may end up with long commutes and slightly more gas money, but remember: democracy doesn’t always result in the most efficient outcome.

But, Oakton and South Lakes were part of the original discussions after the purchase

During the vote to purchase--if you watched the work sessions and School Board meetings.
Frisch and McDaniel both brought up the very long commute to Oakton.
It was also pointed out that Oakton went over capacity this year and is expected to grow with all the new construction nearby.
So, Oakton was not just thrown into the mix. It was part of the mix.

Yes it is a part of mix.

But the stated goal per the presentation and the webpage is to reduce the enrollment of Chantilly, Westfield, and Centreville.

That’s it.

You are selectively ignoring emails from school board members to constituents that also mentioned commute times. Remember that several board members still feel strongly that middle school should not start so early. Keeping kids at schools far from home does not help move them towards their goal of streamlining transportation. The school board members have their opinions and perspectives independent of whatever one of Reid’s staff put on some slides. We have all seen that the communication between Reid and the board is dysfunctional. The slides are not necessarily a full reflection of what the board will discuss.

If they want to change start times significant changes will have to be made to the Oakton, Madison, and Langley pyramids among others even with Crossfield out of the mix. The board has demonstrated they don’t want that fight regardless of their public statements.

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Anonymous wrote:What reason have the "rooted in Oakton" people given for staying at Oakton--other than that is what they want?

As for purchasing a house for the schools, that could apply to any of the people who do not want to move.

Anyone with a brain can see that it is ridiculous to send kids 10 to 12 miles away over a school that is 2 to 3 miles away.

It is safer and cheaper to send them to the new school. Why should the taxpayers continue to pay to bus these kids on long bus rides that cost lots more dollars to the school system? The bus drivers cannot make as many runs. It requires more buses because of this. It requires more bus drivers. It requires more maintenance. It requires more gas/energy.

This is not a straight 10-12 mile route. It either requires getting on 50 to I66--heavily trafficked, or taking winding and hilly back roads which are also heavily trafficked.

This may be the stupidest choice Reid is making.

That is just simple logic.

Their reasons as per the meeting at the school and the school board meeting where they had a few speakers have been a joke:
1. We bought our homes because of Oakton (so what? that's a risk)
2. Our kids' middle school friends are ALL going to Oakton (um, only if your kid is in AAP and even then, only like 1/3 of those kids are going to Oakton. For normal kids, none of their new friends are going to Oakton)
3. Our kids play in sports and do activities with only kids going to Oakton (um, nope, your kids play in CYA or CYA-affiliated clubs and most CYA kids go to Chantilly or Westfield)
4. Oakton is much closer to our homes (um, nope)
5. Crossing Fairfax County Parkway is dangerous (um, your kids do it for Carson, not to mention that the drive to Oakton is far more dangerous, kids either get on the highway or have to drive on windy narrow roads)

These RIO parents are borderline psychotic!

They’re reasoning SCREAMS angry 2 year old throwing a fit on the floor of a Costco.

Same with those Crossfield parents who want to go to Western and try to silence Fox Mill’s voice. It must be in the water over there.

So, what’s funny is that the Fox Mill Neighborhood is shared between Crossfield and Fox Mill, with the border line being perpendicular to reign street.

And let me jog the Crossfield Parents who want to move into western silencing the voices of Fox Mill parents’ short-span memories.

In 2009, a contentious boundary change was done when Fox Mill was moved from Oakton to South Lakes.

Fox Mill has grown into South Lakes, but shows strong desires to move into Western even though the school itself at 2611 Viking Drive is Equidistant between Western and South Lakes.

So as contentious as it was, Fox Mill moved to a much closer school than Oakton, and can move to a school that aligns more with its identity.

Crossfield can move to, and it will settle in, and they can share the school with Fox Mill.

But thanks to Melanie Meren and RIO moms, Crossfield and Fox Mill are no longer under consideration to move to Western.

And thanks to the Superintendent for not properly planning out what she was to do with the school (rezoning from a private school to a public school, yes), planned out modifications to the main and shell buildings with the addition of proper VHSL athletic fields (baseball diamonds, tennis courts, a soccer field [one is already provided on the site], and a proper football stadium), then setting a boundary, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

Michelle Reid is an incompetent liar.

Her and her arsenal of idiots need to leave because she has little to no follow through on anything she does, she’s ineffective, and her doorknob cronies are no better.

She’s an old lady who probably should be retired and moved back to Washington State!

It is truly the height of stupidity to leave out not one but TWO elementary schools close to a new high school, all because Reid can’t stand up to whiners. Aren’t we all raising our children to learn that whining isn’t the way to get what we want? She is incentivizing it.

No, but we should be raising our children to stand up for themselves. Everyone should be respectfully voicing their interests at community meetings whether their kids attend Crossfield, Fox Mill, Oak Hill, or wherever.

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Fox Mill to Western is the same distance as Lees Corner to Western.

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Anonymous wrote:What reason have the "rooted in Oakton" people given for staying at Oakton--other than that is what they want?

As for purchasing a house for the schools, that could apply to any of the people who do not want to move.

Anyone with a brain can see that it is ridiculous to send kids 10 to 12 miles away over a school that is 2 to 3 miles away.

It is safer and cheaper to send them to the new school. Why should the taxpayers continue to pay to bus these kids on long bus rides that cost lots more dollars to the school system? The bus drivers cannot make as many runs. It requires more buses because of this. It requires more bus drivers. It requires more maintenance. It requires more gas/energy.

This is not a straight 10-12 mile route. It either requires getting on 50 to I66--heavily trafficked, or taking winding and hilly back roads which are also heavily trafficked.

This may be the stupidest choice Reid is making.

That is just simple logic.

Their reasons as per the meeting at the school and the school board meeting where they had a few speakers have been a joke:
1. We bought our homes because of Oakton (so what? that's a risk)
2. Our kids' middle school friends are ALL going to Oakton (um, only if your kid is in AAP and even then, only like 1/3 of those kids are going to Oakton. For normal kids, none of their new friends are going to Oakton)
3. Our kids play in sports and do activities with only kids going to Oakton (um, nope, your kids play in CYA or CYA-affiliated clubs and most CYA kids go to Chantilly or Westfield)
4. Oakton is much closer to our homes (um, nope)
5. Crossing Fairfax County Parkway is dangerous (um, your kids do it for Carson, not to mention that the drive to Oakton is far more dangerous, kids either get on the highway or have to drive on windy narrow roads)

These RIO parents are borderline psychotic!

They’re reasoning SCREAMS angry 2 year old throwing a fit on the floor of a Costco.

Same with those Crossfield parents who want to go to Western and try to silence Fox Mill’s voice. It must be in the water over there.

So, what’s funny is that the Fox Mill Neighborhood is shared between Crossfield and Fox Mill, with the border line being perpendicular to reign street.

And let me jog the Crossfield Parents who want to move into western silencing the voices of Fox Mill parents’ short-span memories.

In 2009, a contentious boundary change was done when Fox Mill was moved from Oakton to South Lakes.

Fox Mill has grown into South Lakes, but shows strong desires to move into Western even though the school itself at 2611 Viking Drive is Equidistant between Western and South Lakes.

So as contentious as it was, Fox Mill moved to a much closer school than Oakton, and can move to a school that aligns more with its identity.

Crossfield can move to, and it will settle in, and they can share the school with Fox Mill.

But thanks to Melanie Meren and RIO moms, Crossfield and Fox Mill are no longer under consideration to move to Western.

And thanks to the Superintendent for not properly planning out what she was to do with the school (rezoning from a private school to a public school, yes), planned out modifications to the main and shell buildings with the addition of proper VHSL athletic fields (baseball diamonds, tennis courts, a soccer field [one is already provided on the site], and a proper football stadium), then setting a boundary, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

Michelle Reid is an incompetent liar.

Her and her arsenal of idiots need to leave because she has little to no follow through on anything she does, she’s ineffective, and her doorknob cronies are no better.

She’s an old lady who probably should be retired and moved back to Washington State!

It is truly the height of stupidity to leave out not one but TWO elementary schools close to a new high school, all because Reid can’t stand up to whiners. Aren’t we all raising our children to learn that whining isn’t the way to get what we want? She is incentivizing it.

Are you suggesting both Fox Mill and Lees Corner should go to Western? Or only one of the two.

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Anonymous wrote:What reason have the "rooted in Oakton" people given for staying at Oakton--other than that is what they want?

As for purchasing a house for the schools, that could apply to any of the people who do not want to move.

Anyone with a brain can see that it is ridiculous to send kids 10 to 12 miles away over a school that is 2 to 3 miles away.

It is safer and cheaper to send them to the new school. Why should the taxpayers continue to pay to bus these kids on long bus rides that cost lots more dollars to the school system? The bus drivers cannot make as many runs. It requires more buses because of this. It requires more bus drivers. It requires more maintenance. It requires more gas/energy.

This is not a straight 10-12 mile route. It either requires getting on 50 to I66--heavily trafficked, or taking winding and hilly back roads which are also heavily trafficked.

This may be the stupidest choice Reid is making.

That is just simple logic.

Their reasons as per the meeting at the school and the school board meeting where they had a few speakers have been a joke:
1. We bought our homes because of Oakton (so what? that's a risk)
2. Our kids' middle school friends are ALL going to Oakton (um, only if your kid is in AAP and even then, only like 1/3 of those kids are going to Oakton. For normal kids, none of their new friends are going to Oakton)
3. Our kids play in sports and do activities with only kids going to Oakton (um, nope, your kids play in CYA or CYA-affiliated clubs and most CYA kids go to Chantilly or Westfield)
4. Oakton is much closer to our homes (um, nope)
5. Crossing Fairfax County Parkway is dangerous (um, your kids do it for Carson, not to mention that the drive to Oakton is far more dangerous, kids either get on the highway or have to drive on windy narrow roads)

These RIO parents are borderline psychotic!

They’re reasoning SCREAMS angry 2 year old throwing a fit on the floor of a Costco.

Same with those Crossfield parents who want to go to Western and try to silence Fox Mill’s voice. It must be in the water over there.

So, what’s funny is that the Fox Mill Neighborhood is shared between Crossfield and Fox Mill, with the border line being perpendicular to reign street.

And let me jog the Crossfield Parents who want to move into western silencing the voices of Fox Mill parents’ short-span memories.

In 2009, a contentious boundary change was done when Fox Mill was moved from Oakton to South Lakes.

Fox Mill has grown into South Lakes, but shows strong desires to move into Western even though the school itself at 2611 Viking Drive is Equidistant between Western and South Lakes.

So as contentious as it was, Fox Mill moved to a much closer school than Oakton, and can move to a school that aligns more with its identity.

Crossfield can move to, and it will settle in, and they can share the school with Fox Mill.

But thanks to Melanie Meren and RIO moms, Crossfield and Fox Mill are no longer under consideration to move to Western.

And thanks to the Superintendent for not properly planning out what she was to do with the school (rezoning from a private school to a public school, yes), planned out modifications to the main and shell buildings with the addition of proper VHSL athletic fields (baseball diamonds, tennis courts, a soccer field [one is already provided on the site], and a proper football stadium), then setting a boundary, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

Michelle Reid is an incompetent liar.

Her and her arsenal of idiots need to leave because she has little to no follow through on anything she does, she’s ineffective, and her doorknob cronies are no better.

She’s an old lady who probably should be retired and moved back to Washington State!

It is truly the height of stupidity to leave out not one but TWO elementary schools close to a new high school, all because Reid can’t stand up to whiners. Aren’t we all raising our children to learn that whining isn’t the way to get what we want? She is incentivizing it.

Well doesn’t she whine too?

Or just cover up scandals and suggest bad ideas that a fifth grader would even question!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fox Mill to Western is the same distance as Lees Corner to Western.

Lees Corner is so much closer to Chantilly than Western.

Yes, there may be families a bit closer to Western, Lees Corner must be excluded as it is not a 20171 school like Crossfield or Fox Mill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:We do not want to go to Western, we are just concerned we will be pushed to Westfield after 5 years as Chantilly is over capacity.

Is anyone else concerned that once Innovation ES is built and filled up, Crossfield or Fox Mill will get pushed out of Western? Innovation will almost certainly be zoned to Western.

Does that mean Oak Hill could be zoned back to Chantilly in 5 years?

By the logic of the group here, if Fox Mill or Crossfield go to Western they would be rezoned first as they are the furthest away.

The new elementary school site was approved back in 2024. The new ES is even closer to Western than Coats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fox Mill to Western is the same distance as Lees Corner to Western.

Lees Corner is so much closer to Chantilly than Western.

Yes, there may be families a bit closer to Western, Lees Corner must be excluded as it is not a 20171 school like Crossfield or Fox Mill.

Agree, it is not about which ES is closer to Western, it is about the zip code. Distance of ES to Western should not be the considering factor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fox Mill to Western is the same distance as Lees Corner to Western.

Lees Corner is so much closer to Chantilly than Western.

Yes, there may be families a bit closer to Western, Lees Corner must be excluded as it is not a 20171 school like Crossfield or Fox Mill.

Agree, it is not about which ES is closer to Western, it is about the zip code. Distance of ES to Western should not be the considering factor.

I like the idea of a one zip code school but how many HS in FCPS fall into that category?

[Anonymous]

I don’t think Crossfield and Fox Mill are off the table. I think they scrapped all four scenarios and are starting from scratch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fox Mill to Western is the same distance as Lees Corner to Western.

Lees Corner is so much closer to Chantilly than Western.

Yes, there may be families a bit closer to Western, Lees Corner must be excluded as it is not a 20171 school like Crossfield or Fox Mill.

l agree. We should delegate FCPS boundary decisions to the USPS. The results couldn’t be any worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Crossfield and Fox Mill are off the table. I think they scrapped all four scenarios and are starting from scratch.

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