Can someone explain AEM to me?

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Anonymous wrote:What SR and their supporters are doing is so counterproductive. If I had a degree in Facilities Management and had so-called "experts" constantly emailing and calling me and my boss, tell me in great detail what I'm doing wrong and what a loser I am, I'd stop listening to them too. APS has their experts. I remember that they talked to someone at Harvard (or another Ivy League school) about ventilation last spring?

This. Plus she takes info from the internet and thinks that just because a website says something that magically it is going to work well and fit with the HVAC systems in the school. Amazingly, integration with existing systems isn’t as easy as plugging in a cable like she is imagining.

For her arguments to have any merit, she would actually need to understand the entire setup of the current systems - manufacturers, years, and so on - then understand what can and can’t be integrated, then be able to evaluate and create a plan to do so, and on and on

I don’t know why people latch on to her except for their anxiety is just through the roof and they are looking to grasp on to any last straw that schools shouldn’t open. In that way, she and her followers are like the anti-vax crowd

She's advocating for standalone HEPA filters, a very very widely recommended safety measure. What's to integrate? What's to understand?

And what is that going to do? She knows every single classroom size, has determined the best use and placement and capacity for commercial use in conjunction with a full on HVAC system WITH filtration. NO she has no idea.

She is seriously dumb. Just dumb. And you keep falling for it over and over. She thinks the CDC puts out guidelines only for her and for Arlington Co, VA. She has never once stopped to think that the CDC has to put our recommendations for the entire US. Shocker but not every single place in the US has updated buildings and HVAC systems. Wow, never thought of that did you and neither did she. Yes, some places don't have full installed modern HVAC systems. Those are the places where ventilation are concerned especially if the buildings are small, and much older. The CDC is providing guidance to everyone. APS has met well over the minimum for modern ventalitation systems.

Name calling? You are a parent?

WTF is wrong with you?

DP. Enough with the back and forth. Look through this thread and AEM and tell me that SR members never called people out of their name? As someone said above, you are not helping your cause. You are just noise now. I bet Syphax is just so tired of SR now and all of their demands.

So that somehow makes it ok?

Grow TF up.

There was no name calling. Dumb is an adjective. Name calling would be witch or something similar

Like I said, grow TF up.

[Anonymous]

I find it super interesting that a lot of the APE crowd have their kids at Discovery, which is a 5 year old building with a great HVAC system and even has a covered outside pavilion for kids to eat their lunch.

These people are very privileged. Good for them. But why do they have to criticize other parents -- whose kids are in really old buildings with crappy HVAC -- for asking for HEPA filters?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find it super interesting that a lot of the APE crowd have their kids at Discovery, which is a 5 year old building with a great HVAC system and even has a covered outside pavilion for kids to eat their lunch.

These people are very privileged. Good for them. But why do they have to criticize other parents -- whose kids are in really old buildings with crappy HVAC -- for asking for HEPA filters?

Because it is all based on hysterics. You are consumed with anxiety bc you feel like it’s all unknown so you are latching on to any crazy argument you can in hopes that you won’t have to do it. But what will happen is your kids wi go to school, it will be ok, and in a few weeks you will be rolling your eyes at your past self’s hysteria over a hepa filter

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What SR and their supporters are doing is so counterproductive. If I had a degree in Facilities Management and had so-called "experts" constantly emailing and calling me and my boss, tell me in great detail what I'm doing wrong and what a loser I am, I'd stop listening to them too. APS has their experts. I remember that they talked to someone at Harvard (or another Ivy League school) about ventilation last spring?

This. Plus she takes info from the internet and thinks that just because a website says something that magically it is going to work well and fit with the HVAC systems in the school. Amazingly, integration with existing systems isn’t as easy as plugging in a cable like she is imagining.

For her arguments to have any merit, she would actually need to understand the entire setup of the current systems - manufacturers, years, and so on - then understand what can and can’t be integrated, then be able to evaluate and create a plan to do so, and on and on

I don’t know why people latch on to her except for their anxiety is just through the roof and they are looking to grasp on to any last straw that schools shouldn’t open. In that way, she and her followers are like the anti-vax crowd

She's advocating for standalone HEPA filters, a very very widely recommended safety measure. What's to integrate? What's to understand?

And what is that going to do? She knows every single classroom size, has determined the best use and placement and capacity for commercial use in conjunction with a full on HVAC system WITH filtration. NO she has no idea.

She is seriously dumb. Just dumb. And you keep falling for it over and over. She thinks the CDC puts out guidelines only for her and for Arlington Co, VA. She has never once stopped to think that the CDC has to put our recommendations for the entire US. Shocker but not every single place in the US has updated buildings and HVAC systems. Wow, never thought of that did you and neither did she. Yes, some places don't have full installed modern HVAC systems. Those are the places where ventilation are concerned especially if the buildings are small, and much older. The CDC is providing guidance to everyone. APS has met well over the minimum for modern ventalitation systems.

You think all of APS has updated buildings and HVACs? Excuse me while I fall over laughing.

Do you really not understand that “modern”‘doesn’t mean 2021? Do you really not understand that some places on the US have no actual indoor ventilation systems in a building ? Again CDC advice and Johns Hopkins advice is not written solely for the use of Arlington Co VA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What SR and their supporters are doing is so counterproductive. If I had a degree in Facilities Management and had so-called "experts" constantly emailing and calling me and my boss, tell me in great detail what I'm doing wrong and what a loser I am, I'd stop listening to them too. APS has their experts. I remember that they talked to someone at Harvard (or another Ivy League school) about ventilation last spring?

This. Plus she takes info from the internet and thinks that just because a website says something that magically it is going to work well and fit with the HVAC systems in the school. Amazingly, integration with existing systems isn’t as easy as plugging in a cable like she is imagining.

For her arguments to have any merit, she would actually need to understand the entire setup of the current systems - manufacturers, years, and so on - then understand what can and can’t be integrated, then be able to evaluate and create a plan to do so, and on and on

I don’t know why people latch on to her except for their anxiety is just through the roof and they are looking to grasp on to any last straw that schools shouldn’t open. In that way, she and her followers are like the anti-vax crowd

She's advocating for standalone HEPA filters, a very very widely recommended safety measure. What's to integrate? What's to understand?

And what is that going to do? She knows every single classroom size, has determined the best use and placement and capacity for commercial use in conjunction with a full on HVAC system WITH filtration. NO she has no idea.

She is seriously dumb. Just dumb. And you keep falling for it over and over. She thinks the CDC puts out guidelines only for her and for Arlington Co, VA. She has never once stopped to think that the CDC has to put our recommendations for the entire US. Shocker but not every single place in the US has updated buildings and HVAC systems. Wow, never thought of that did you and neither did she. Yes, some places don't have full installed modern HVAC systems. Those are the places where ventilation are concerned especially if the buildings are small, and much older. The CDC is providing guidance to everyone. APS has met well over the minimum for modern ventalitation systems.

You think all of APS has updated buildings and HVACs? Excuse me while I fall over laughing.

Do you really not understand that “modern”‘doesn’t mean 2021? Do you really not understand that some places on the US have no actual indoor ventilation systems in a building ? Again CDC advice and Johns Hopkins advice is not written solely for the use of Arlington Co VA.

Are you trying to say that APS should ignore CDC/JHU guidelines?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What SR and their supporters are doing is so counterproductive. If I had a degree in Facilities Management and had so-called "experts" constantly emailing and calling me and my boss, tell me in great detail what I'm doing wrong and what a loser I am, I'd stop listening to them too. APS has their experts. I remember that they talked to someone at Harvard (or another Ivy League school) about ventilation last spring?

This. Plus she takes info from the internet and thinks that just because a website says something that magically it is going to work well and fit with the HVAC systems in the school. Amazingly, integration with existing systems isn’t as easy as plugging in a cable like she is imagining.

For her arguments to have any merit, she would actually need to understand the entire setup of the current systems - manufacturers, years, and so on - then understand what can and can’t be integrated, then be able to evaluate and create a plan to do so, and on and on

I don’t know why people latch on to her except for their anxiety is just through the roof and they are looking to grasp on to any last straw that schools shouldn’t open. In that way, she and her followers are like the anti-vax crowd

She's advocating for standalone HEPA filters, a very very widely recommended safety measure. What's to integrate? What's to understand?

And what is that going to do? She knows every single classroom size, has determined the best use and placement and capacity for commercial use in conjunction with a full on HVAC system WITH filtration. NO she has no idea.

She is seriously dumb. Just dumb. And you keep falling for it over and over. She thinks the CDC puts out guidelines only for her and for Arlington Co, VA. She has never once stopped to think that the CDC has to put our recommendations for the entire US. Shocker but not every single place in the US has updated buildings and HVAC systems. Wow, never thought of that did you and neither did she. Yes, some places don't have full installed modern HVAC systems. Those are the places where ventilation are concerned especially if the buildings are small, and much older. The CDC is providing guidance to everyone. APS has met well over the minimum for modern ventalitation systems.

Name calling? You are a parent?

WTF is wrong with you?

DP. Enough with the back and forth. Look through this thread and AEM and tell me that SR members never called people out of their name? As someone said above, you are not helping your cause. You are just noise now. I bet Syphax is just so tired of SR now and all of their demands.

So that somehow makes it ok?

Grow TF up.

There was no name calling. Dumb is an adjective. Name calling would be witch or something similar

Like I said, grow TF up.

Oh my. So much anger. Like your side always says when you lose the argument, "get help."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What SR and their supporters are doing is so counterproductive. If I had a degree in Facilities Management and had so-called "experts" constantly emailing and calling me and my boss, tell me in great detail what I'm doing wrong and what a loser I am, I'd stop listening to them too. APS has their experts. I remember that they talked to someone at Harvard (or another Ivy League school) about ventilation last spring?

This. Plus she takes info from the internet and thinks that just because a website says something that magically it is going to work well and fit with the HVAC systems in the school. Amazingly, integration with existing systems isn’t as easy as plugging in a cable like she is imagining.

For her arguments to have any merit, she would actually need to understand the entire setup of the current systems - manufacturers, years, and so on - then understand what can and can’t be integrated, then be able to evaluate and create a plan to do so, and on and on

I don’t know why people latch on to her except for their anxiety is just through the roof and they are looking to grasp on to any last straw that schools shouldn’t open. In that way, she and her followers are like the anti-vax crowd

She's advocating for standalone HEPA filters, a very very widely recommended safety measure. What's to integrate? What's to understand?

And what is that going to do? She knows every single classroom size, has determined the best use and placement and capacity for commercial use in conjunction with a full on HVAC system WITH filtration. NO she has no idea.

She is seriously dumb. Just dumb. And you keep falling for it over and over. She thinks the CDC puts out guidelines only for her and for Arlington Co, VA. She has never once stopped to think that the CDC has to put our recommendations for the entire US. Shocker but not every single place in the US has updated buildings and HVAC systems. Wow, never thought of that did you and neither did she. Yes, some places don't have full installed modern HVAC systems. Those are the places where ventilation are concerned especially if the buildings are small, and much older. The CDC is providing guidance to everyone. APS has met well over the minimum for modern ventalitation systems.

Name calling? You are a parent?

WTF is wrong with you?

DP. Enough with the back and forth. Look through this thread and AEM and tell me that SR members never called people out of their name? As someone said above, you are not helping your cause. You are just noise now. I bet Syphax is just so tired of SR now and all of their demands.

So that somehow makes it ok?

Grow TF up.

There was no name calling. Dumb is an adjective. Name calling would be witch or something similar

Like I said, grow TF up.

Oh my. So much anger. Like your side always says when you lose the argument, "get help."

Calling PP out for repeated childish behavior isn’t “losing an argument”.

Seriously. What TF is wrong with you? The pandemic took you over the edge?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What SR and their supporters are doing is so counterproductive. If I had a degree in Facilities Management and had so-called "experts" constantly emailing and calling me and my boss, tell me in great detail what I'm doing wrong and what a loser I am, I'd stop listening to them too. APS has their experts. I remember that they talked to someone at Harvard (or another Ivy League school) about ventilation last spring?

This. Plus she takes info from the internet and thinks that just because a website says something that magically it is going to work well and fit with the HVAC systems in the school. Amazingly, integration with existing systems isn’t as easy as plugging in a cable like she is imagining.

For her arguments to have any merit, she would actually need to understand the entire setup of the current systems - manufacturers, years, and so on - then understand what can and can’t be integrated, then be able to evaluate and create a plan to do so, and on and on

I don’t know why people latch on to her except for their anxiety is just through the roof and they are looking to grasp on to any last straw that schools shouldn’t open. In that way, she and her followers are like the anti-vax crowd

She's advocating for standalone HEPA filters, a very very widely recommended safety measure. What's to integrate? What's to understand?

And what is that going to do? She knows every single classroom size, has determined the best use and placement and capacity for commercial use in conjunction with a full on HVAC system WITH filtration. NO she has no idea.

She is seriously dumb. Just dumb. And you keep falling for it over and over. She thinks the CDC puts out guidelines only for her and for Arlington Co, VA. She has never once stopped to think that the CDC has to put our recommendations for the entire US. Shocker but not every single place in the US has updated buildings and HVAC systems. Wow, never thought of that did you and neither did she. Yes, some places don't have full installed modern HVAC systems. Those are the places where ventilation are concerned especially if the buildings are small, and much older. The CDC is providing guidance to everyone. APS has met well over the minimum for modern ventalitation systems.

You think all of APS has updated buildings and HVACs? Excuse me while I fall over laughing.

Do you really not understand that “modern”‘doesn’t mean 2021? Do you really not understand that some places on the US have no actual indoor ventilation systems in a building ? Again CDC advice and Johns Hopkins advice is not written solely for the use of Arlington Co VA.

Are you trying to say that APS should ignore CDC/JHU guidelines?

Well?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What SR and their supporters are doing is so counterproductive. If I had a degree in Facilities Management and had so-called "experts" constantly emailing and calling me and my boss, tell me in great detail what I'm doing wrong and what a loser I am, I'd stop listening to them too. APS has their experts. I remember that they talked to someone at Harvard (or another Ivy League school) about ventilation last spring?

This. Plus she takes info from the internet and thinks that just because a website says something that magically it is going to work well and fit with the HVAC systems in the school. Amazingly, integration with existing systems isn’t as easy as plugging in a cable like she is imagining.

For her arguments to have any merit, she would actually need to understand the entire setup of the current systems - manufacturers, years, and so on - then understand what can and can’t be integrated, then be able to evaluate and create a plan to do so, and on and on

I don’t know why people latch on to her except for their anxiety is just through the roof and they are looking to grasp on to any last straw that schools shouldn’t open. In that way, she and her followers are like the anti-vax crowd

She's advocating for standalone HEPA filters, a very very widely recommended safety measure. What's to integrate? What's to understand?

And what is that going to do? She knows every single classroom size, has determined the best use and placement and capacity for commercial use in conjunction with a full on HVAC system WITH filtration. NO she has no idea.

She is seriously dumb. Just dumb. And you keep falling for it over and over. She thinks the CDC puts out guidelines only for her and for Arlington Co, VA. She has never once stopped to think that the CDC has to put our recommendations for the entire US. Shocker but not every single place in the US has updated buildings and HVAC systems. Wow, never thought of that did you and neither did she. Yes, some places don't have full installed modern HVAC systems. Those are the places where ventilation are concerned especially if the buildings are small, and much older. The CDC is providing guidance to everyone. APS has met well over the minimum for modern ventalitation systems.

Name calling? You are a parent?

WTF is wrong with you?

DP. Enough with the back and forth. Look through this thread and AEM and tell me that SR members never called people out of their name? As someone said above, you are not helping your cause. You are just noise now. I bet Syphax is just so tired of SR now and all of their demands.

So that somehow makes it ok?

Grow TF up.

There was no name calling. Dumb is an adjective. Name calling would be witch or something similar

Like I said, grow TF up.

Oh my. So much anger. Like your side always says when you lose the argument, "get help."

Calling PP out for repeated childish behavior isn’t “losing an argument”.

Seriously. What TF is wrong with you? The pandemic took you over the edge?

Nothing is wrong with me. I'm laughing at you though. Get help.

[Anonymous]

Loving the "school at whatever cost" folks on here calling desire for greater safety measures at schools the work of "anti-vaxxers." They don't seem to understand that Delta has changed things -- even vaccinated people can get sick, and if they do they can transmit to the rest of the family, some of whom may not be able to get vaccinated.

It's the same Catch-22 that trumpies used to avoid getting the vax months ago -- even if I get vaxxed you're still going to make me wear a mask inside so you must be saying the vaccines don't work. It's willful obtuseness that they carry all the way into the emergency room and die with, but when you die to own the libs I guess it's all worth it.

[Anonymous]

It's weird that the APE crowd is still fighting. They got full time school as Covid #s rage. They should be happy. Except they are complaining about the parents who are trying to get outdoor lunch and hepas. I just don't get these people.

[Anonymous]

Here's the all time NOVA cases graph, we are in the plateau on the right. We are nowhere near last winter's level's even with the dreaded delta variant



Here's the all time NOVA hospitalizations graph. The current trend is more of a blip.



I just don't understand what everyone is so hysterical about. We have vaccines now. They are working.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's weird that the APE crowd is still fighting. They got full time school as Covid #s rage. They should be happy. Except they are complaining about the parents who are trying to get outdoor lunch and hepas. I just don't get these people.

They never had rational arguments so....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's weird that the APE crowd is still fighting. They got full time school as Covid #s rage. They should be happy. Except they are complaining about the parents who are trying to get outdoor lunch and hepas. I just don't get these people.

Do you truly think covid numbers are raging in Northern VA? Yes, cases are elevated and we need to stay vigilant, but I wouldn't describe the current situation as "raging."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's the all time NOVA cases graph, we are in the plateau on the right. We are nowhere near last winter's level's even with the dreaded delta variant



Here's the all time NOVA hospitalizations graph. The current trend is more of a blip.



I just don't understand what everyone is so hysterical about. We have vaccines now. They are working.

Except that kids under 12 cannot get the vaccine and even the vaccinated can still get it (although usually a milder case) and spread it. I think that's why people are "hysterical" (using your language).