To kill a mockingbird at SR

[Anonymous]

The SR Admin folks love it when their threads keep popping back up to the top of the front page.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually, he’s not saved.

I think you miss the point of the pp. It's the male white savior narrative. He clearly didn't have a female, black, Hispanic, and or Asian lawyer.

The point pp made was that he/she has clearly not read the book. The father didn’t take the case because of the child, either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ironic, considering Rose Philippine Duchesne attempted to bring Christianity to the native Americans, something decidedly "unwoke".

And did you notice that the RSCJs have made some very public remarks about their problematic history in the US? I have and I am incredibly gratified to know they are open-eyed about the realities of the situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ironic, considering Rose Philippine Duchesne attempted to bring Christianity to the native Americans, something decidedly "unwoke".

And did you notice that the RSCJs have made some very public remarks about their problematic history in the US? I have and I am incredibly gratified to know they are open-eyed about the realities of the situation.

Hardly surprising they have no vocations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP is the one who misses the irony, I fear.

Great. Maybe you can help by providing us all with your clear explanation of why it’s “abjectly stupid” to be aware of issues of racial injustice. Seems to me that knowledge and awareness is a good thing, but I’m curious how you’ll try to convince us that ignorance is better. Go for it.

I take issue with your definition. Anybody who is mildly aware of the world is aware of examples of racial injustice. We don't need to be beaten over the head into submission to understand that racial injustice exists and that it should be addressed as part of the overall evolution of society.

Of course, ignorance is never better, and nobody would ever argue that it is; but you already know that, which is why you posited that particular straw man.

The fact is, it is not the case that the rise of wokeness is due to sensible, cogent arguments that are persuasive to reasonable people. Even if one is willing to go a certain distance with the activists in agreeing that historical injustices may have a meaningful causal relationship to contemporary inequalities, progressive thinking on these topics still seems bizarrely unbalanced.

My issue with wokeness is that those who subscribe to such ideas actually seem to believe that Americans, or whites, or men, are uniquely and irredeemable guilty, for reasons written into the whole fabric of our society. The correction is not to go and sin no more, but rather to engage in a perpetual blame game that you can never escape.

Stone Ridge, like its fellow independent schools catering to the wealthy, liberal class has signed on fully and unapologetically to the woke religion and its DEI theology. The problem with this is that there is never an end-point. There is no "solving" this. The entire idea of antiracism is that it is, by definition, unsolvable. An entire group of people are racist and there is nothing that can be done to change that. This is a dangerous and potentially lethal road that these schools follow at their peril.

This is a perfect encapsulation of the problem with blindly following the DEI / CRT religion that has so rapidly taken over in this country, in particular among wealthy urban elites. There is no end point other than total self-immolation. I say "religion" because CRT / antiracism prophets do not tolerate evidence or arguing; in fact, use of these scientific tools is inherently white supremacist and racist, by their own definition. They ask that we take it on faith that we are all racist, and that the only way out of our sin is accepting their ideas fully. You are only saved when you admit you are a bigot. Kendi says, indeed, that the best evidence of a racist is someone claiming to not be racist. The foolishness, pseudo-religious, and anti-intellectualism of these ideas are no barriers to their unfettered adoption by otherwise intelligent and well-educated people. I suppose all of those philosophy, logic, and science classes our parents paid for at our elite colleges didn't do us much good. Reason is no match for a guilty conscience and a need to fit in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP is the one who misses the irony, I fear.

Great. Maybe you can help by providing us all with your clear explanation of why it’s “abjectly stupid” to be aware of issues of racial injustice. Seems to me that knowledge and awareness is a good thing, but I’m curious how you’ll try to convince us that ignorance is better. Go for it.

I take issue with your definition. Anybody who is mildly aware of the world is aware of examples of racial injustice. We don't need to be beaten over the head into submission to understand that racial injustice exists and that it should be addressed as part of the overall evolution of society.

Of course, ignorance is never better, and nobody would ever argue that it is; but you already know that, which is why you posited that particular straw man.

The fact is, it is not the case that the rise of wokeness is due to sensible, cogent arguments that are persuasive to reasonable people. Even if one is willing to go a certain distance with the activists in agreeing that historical injustices may have a meaningful causal relationship to contemporary inequalities, progressive thinking on these topics still seems bizarrely unbalanced.

My issue with wokeness is that those who subscribe to such ideas actually seem to believe that Americans, or whites, or men, are uniquely and irredeemable guilty, for reasons written into the whole fabric of our society. The correction is not to go and sin no more, but rather to engage in a perpetual blame game that you can never escape.

Stone Ridge, like its fellow independent schools catering to the wealthy, liberal class has signed on fully and unapologetically to the woke religion and its DEI theology. The problem with this is that there is never an end-point. There is no "solving" this. The entire idea of antiracism is that it is, by definition, unsolvable. An entire group of people are racist and there is nothing that can be done to change that. This is a dangerous and potentially lethal road that these schools follow at their peril.

This is a perfect encapsulation of the problem with blindly following the DEI / CRT religion that has so rapidly taken over in this country, in particular among wealthy urban elites. There is no end point other than total self-immolation. I say "religion" because CRT / antiracism prophets do not tolerate evidence or arguing; in fact, use of these scientific tools is inherently white supremacist and racist, by their own definition. They ask that we take it on faith that we are all racist, and that the only way out of our sin is accepting their ideas fully. You are only saved when you admit you are a bigot. Kendi says, indeed, that the best evidence of a racist is someone claiming to not be racist. The foolishness, pseudo-religious, and anti-intellectualism of these ideas are no barriers to their unfettered adoption by otherwise intelligent and well-educated people. I suppose all of those philosophy, logic, and science classes our parents paid for at our elite colleges didn't do us much good. Reason is no match for a guilty conscience and a need to fit in.

Ideological battles aside, this will be solved in the free market in the end: whose books sell, whose schools are full with big-bucks paying parents, etc. Everything else is pretty much sound and fury like we see every time fundamental social views shift.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Ideological battles aside, this will be solved in the free market in the end: whose books sell, whose schools are full with big-bucks paying parents, etc. Everything else is pretty much sound and fury like we see every time fundamental social views shift.

You are absolutely right.

And the pendulum always swings.

[Anonymous]

White SR parent here - I am glad that SR is making an effort to help the girls to revise history through diverse eyes and thoughtfully Revisiting what we thought we knew. Especially when our epistemology supports systematic injustices. We are a Christian school and the bible has many hundreds of references to God loving the pursuit of justice.

Also the future is brown and black if you look at demographic trends. At some point, our white children may be looking for more sensitive treatment as “minorities”, which they already are as white Catholics.

That said, i would not like to see the baby thrown out with the bath water. Certain classics should be retained but with caveats (e.g., “this is an example of white savior narrative” or “this is an example of elegant, well-crafted writing that substantively dehumanized perspectives of indigenous people” or whatever the case may be), ...

I may be in the minority but i think our girls need to be prepared for a kaleidoscope future where the perspectives of diverse types of people are deeply considered.