Covid Relief Bill thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NYT columnist Paul Krugman is tweeting about the $166 billion cost. He thinks they're a waste of money and only unemployed people should be compensated while the government made us waste a year of our life on lockdown.

@PaulKrugman: "This is pretty upsetting. The "stimulus" checks, which aren't that essential, will cost more than UI, which is. Could easily have done UI long enough to get through until economic recovery."

AOC and Trump are upset that the stimulus checks are not $1200 or even $2000. That tells you a lot about the quality of thinking behind the stimulus checks.

I would only want them to cut a $2,000 check per an adult if dependent checks were limited to 15% of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NYT columnist Paul Krugman is tweeting about the $166 billion cost. He thinks they're a waste of money and only unemployed people should be compensated while the government made us waste a year of our life on lockdown.

@PaulKrugman: "This is pretty upsetting. The "stimulus" checks, which aren't that essential, will cost more than UI, which is. Could easily have done UI long enough to get through until economic recovery."

AOC and Trump are upset that the stimulus checks are not $1200 or even $2000. That tells you a lot about the quality of thinking behind the stimulus checks.

I would only want them to cut a $2,000 check per an adult if dependent checks were limited to 15% of that.

Why do you hate your, and everyone else's, dependents?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is there not an income threshold or unemployment stipulation for stimulus checks? Can someone explain the logic?

Agree. I know a ton of people making $150k household who lost no income since March, in fact saved on childcare, and received BOTH rounds of stimulus. $150k is a very common/comfortable HHI in middle COL areas. These people don’t need stimulus.

Do you know how much work it would be to means test? Also, if you want to "stimulate the economy" which is the GOP goal not feed hungry people, keep families from going homeless...then giving money to folks who don't need it means they will go out and spend it.

Instead of griping that ton of people making $150k household shouldn't get stimulus, how about we raise taxis on the billionaires? If you are so concerned with wealthy people getting over on the average working folk.

No. More than half of the Americans who received stimulus checks put it into savings or investment accounts last time.

Stop trying to control people and then calling other people tyrants. That’s a good start

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NYT columnist Paul Krugman is tweeting about the $166 billion cost. He thinks they're a waste of money and only unemployed people should be compensated while the government made us waste a year of our life on lockdown.

@PaulKrugman: "This is pretty upsetting. The "stimulus" checks, which aren't that essential, will cost more than UI, which is. Could easily have done UI long enough to get through until economic recovery."

AOC and Trump are upset that the stimulus checks are not $1200 or even $2000. That tells you a lot about the quality of thinking behind the stimulus checks.

I would only want them to cut a $2,000 check per an adult if dependent checks were limited to 15% of that.

Why do you hate your, and everyone else's, dependents?

Because putting them in the bill literally cut off 5 weeks of unemployment for individuals who have nothing. Congress basically sacrificed 2 months of people being able to feed their kids + provide shelter in order give the entire U.S. (and families with an unlimited amount of kids) enough money for two weeks of fun.

Why should Utah families with no income loss under the $150,000 profile get a government check of $8,000 for having 5-10 kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in healthcare so I'm fortunate to have a job. I know many have lost their job and I feel for them. However, we are desperate to hire in healthcare. You don't have to be a nurse or other healthcare professional. We are desperate for people to work as transporters, registration clerks, patient care assistants, safety sitters, phlebotomists, dietary techs, housekeepers... the list goes on and on. These are all jobs that offer a few weeks of OJT and you're good to go.

I don't understand why people who have lost their job are not applying for these positions. They are not highly paid, we pay in the $13-18 per hour range plus shift and weekend differential, but some money and benefits is better than no money and benefits. Oh, and benefit cost is sliding scale based on wage so the cost to insure yourself is zero and to insure your family is kept low.

First of all, that pay range is atrocious.

Secondly, if you're working for a healthcare provider, you are exposing yourself to COVID infected patients.

Thanks Einstein, the people working in healthcare didn't know that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NYT columnist Paul Krugman is tweeting about the $166 billion cost. He thinks they're a waste of money and only unemployed people should be compensated while the government made us waste a year of our life on lockdown.

@PaulKrugman: "This is pretty upsetting. The "stimulus" checks, which aren't that essential, will cost more than UI, which is. Could easily have done UI long enough to get through until economic recovery."

AOC and Trump are upset that the stimulus checks are not $1200 or even $2000. That tells you a lot about the quality of thinking behind the stimulus checks.

I would only want them to cut a $2,000 check per an adult if dependent checks were limited to 15% of that.

Why do you hate your, and everyone else's, dependents?

Because putting them in the bill literally cut off 5 weeks of unemployment for individuals who have nothing. Congress basically sacrificed 2 months of people being able to feed their kids + provide shelter in order give the entire U.S. (and families with an unlimited amount of kids) enough money for two weeks of fun.

Why should Utah families with no income loss under the $150,000 profile get a government check of $8,000 for having 5-10 kids?

You can limit the dependents to only a portion of the adult's payout or cut off the dependent pay at under 4 kids. That would be better imo.

[Anonymous]

Other countries have given their citizens a check every week since this started. And we're quibbling over the $600 peanuts they just threw us, while we continue to bankroll big businesses. Sickening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NYT columnist Paul Krugman is tweeting about the $166 billion cost. He thinks they're a waste of money and only unemployed people should be compensated while the government made us waste a year of our life on lockdown.

@PaulKrugman: "This is pretty upsetting. The "stimulus" checks, which aren't that essential, will cost more than UI, which is. Could easily have done UI long enough to get through until economic recovery."

AOC and Trump are upset that the stimulus checks are not $1200 or even $2000. That tells you a lot about the quality of thinking behind the stimulus checks.

I would only want them to cut a $2,000 check per an adult if dependent checks were limited to 15% of that.

Why do you hate your, and everyone else's, dependents?

Because putting them in the bill literally cut off 5 weeks of unemployment for individuals who have nothing. Congress basically sacrificed 2 months of people being able to feed their kids + provide shelter in order give the entire U.S. (and families with an unlimited amount of kids) enough money for two weeks of fun.

Why should Utah families with no income loss under the $150,000 profile get a government check of $8,000 for having 5-10 kids?

That is a false choice made by the Republican congress. There is no reason unemployment should be cut off, especially when individuals like Joel Osteen are pocketing millions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in healthcare so I'm fortunate to have a job. I know many have lost their job and I feel for them. However, we are desperate to hire in healthcare. You don't have to be a nurse or other healthcare professional. We are desperate for people to work as transporters, registration clerks, patient care assistants, safety sitters, phlebotomists, dietary techs, housekeepers... the list goes on and on. These are all jobs that offer a few weeks of OJT and you're good to go.

I don't understand why people who have lost their job are not applying for these positions. They are not highly paid, we pay in the $13-18 per hour range plus shift and weekend differential, but some money and benefits is better than no money and benefits. Oh, and benefit cost is sliding scale based on wage so the cost to insure yourself is zero and to insure your family is kept low.

First of all, that pay range is atrocious.

Secondly, if you're working for a healthcare provider, you are exposing yourself to COVID infected patients.

Thanks Einstein, the people working in healthcare didn't know that.

Someone thinks it's worth it to sacrifice your life for $13/hr, while individuals like Joel Osteen are banking big bucks for doing nothing. So, yeah, someone out there apparently didn't know that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in healthcare so I'm fortunate to have a job. I know many have lost their job and I feel for them. However, we are desperate to hire in healthcare. You don't have to be a nurse or other healthcare professional. We are desperate for people to work as transporters, registration clerks, patient care assistants, safety sitters, phlebotomists, dietary techs, housekeepers... the list goes on and on. These are all jobs that offer a few weeks of OJT and you're good to go.

I don't understand why people who have lost their job are not applying for these positions. They are not highly paid, we pay in the $13-18 per hour range plus shift and weekend differential, but some money and benefits is better than no money and benefits. Oh, and benefit cost is sliding scale based on wage so the cost to insure yourself is zero and to insure your family is kept low.

First of all, that pay range is atrocious.

Secondly, if you're working for a healthcare provider, you are exposing yourself to COVID infected patients.

Thanks Einstein, the people working in healthcare didn't know that.

Someone thinks it's worth it to sacrifice your life for $13/hr, while individuals like Joel Osteen are banking big bucks for doing nothing. So, yeah, someone out there apparently didn't know that.

The point is, if you lost your service industry job, there are other jobs out there. Maybe we should all quit our jobs and do nothing because of you know, COVID.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in healthcare so I'm fortunate to have a job. I know many have lost their job and I feel for them. However, we are desperate to hire in healthcare. You don't have to be a nurse or other healthcare professional. We are desperate for people to work as transporters, registration clerks, patient care assistants, safety sitters, phlebotomists, dietary techs, housekeepers... the list goes on and on. These are all jobs that offer a few weeks of OJT and you're good to go.

I don't understand why people who have lost their job are not applying for these positions. They are not highly paid, we pay in the $13-18 per hour range plus shift and weekend differential, but some money and benefits is better than no money and benefits. Oh, and benefit cost is sliding scale based on wage so the cost to insure yourself is zero and to insure your family is kept low.

Why would I want to get a risky, low paid job, if I can get UI, some child support, and stay home and keep my child safe and more or less educated (with online school)?

C'mon. I don't support UI but you are being disingenuous.

I am on UI and I am not trolling or anything. This is exactly my thinking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, but requirements to interview in-person or confirm job application submissions is voided due to the pandemic.

OK, but that doesn't mean that people can just choose not to look for work. Or does it?

Depends on the state I guess. In my state, one has to be “able and available” which I am.

[Anonymous]

Only 500 million for Israel.

Jared lost his juice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Only 500 million for Israel.

Jared lost his juice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in healthcare so I'm fortunate to have a job. I know many have lost their job and I feel for them. However, we are desperate to hire in healthcare. You don't have to be a nurse or other healthcare professional. We are desperate for people to work as transporters, registration clerks, patient care assistants, safety sitters, phlebotomists, dietary techs, housekeepers... the list goes on and on. These are all jobs that offer a few weeks of OJT and you're good to go.

I don't understand why people who have lost their job are not applying for these positions. They are not highly paid, we pay in the $13-18 per hour range plus shift and weekend differential, but some money and benefits is better than no money and benefits. Oh, and benefit cost is sliding scale based on wage so the cost to insure yourself is zero and to insure your family is kept low.

First of all, that pay range is atrocious.

Secondly, if you're working for a healthcare provider, you are exposing yourself to COVID infected patients.

Thanks Einstein, the people working in healthcare didn't know that.

Someone thinks it's worth it to sacrifice your life for $13/hr, while individuals like Joel Osteen are banking big bucks for doing nothing. So, yeah, someone out there apparently didn't know that.

The point is, if you lost your service industry job, there are other jobs out there. Maybe we should all quit our jobs and do nothing because of you know, COVID.

Why not? That's what Joel Osteen is doing, and he has a $200K Ferrari to show for it.