Ellen Page announced new identity as Elliott Page

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Anonymous wrote:How did the shape of his face change so much?

Testosterone. It seems a lot of the public really doesn’t understand what a gigantic difference that hormone makes. Transgender women will never be the same as women in terms of bone density, musculature, size of organs etc. no matter how much estrogen and progesterone they take because the changes testosterone makes are permanent. And transgender men who go on testosterone are very quickly and permanently changed in a way that detransitioning cannot cure.

Wow, that does make a case for starting young if you know you are trans.

Trans kids often opt for puberty blockers. Not permanent but gives them time to mature emotionally and figure out what they really want.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I really hope Elliot is happy and is now at peace with himself. But I can't stop thinking how hard it must be to be a man who is 5'1" and weighs around 100 pounds.

Yes, and what kind of roles are there for a 5'1 man?

Ask Tom Cruise and Dustin Hoffman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did the shape of his face change so much?

Testosterone. It seems a lot of the public really doesn’t understand what a gigantic difference that hormone makes. Transgender women will never be the same as women in terms of bone density, musculature, size of organs etc. no matter how much estrogen and progesterone they take because the changes testosterone makes are permanent. And transgender men who go on testosterone are very quickly and permanently changed in a way that detransitioning cannot cure.

Wow, that does make a case for starting young if you know you are trans.

No, it does not. Good Lord!

So much misinformation here.

Both FTM and MTF trans persons must stay on hormones for life. Why? To maintain. They will eventually reach a dose that their doctor will determine is their maintenance dose, which will be the perfect amount to keep them at the correct level of masculinity/femininity that they, the trans person, desire.

There is no optimal level of Masculin or Feminimn that a doctor doses hormones to achieve. It is all totally personal and up to each transitioning person. Of course, I will add that a doctor will not allow a patient to have access to too much hormones, of course.

If a trans person stops their hormons, their appearance that has not been altered by any kind of surgery will change back. I have only known one trans person who transitioned with hormones, no surgery, and then years later transitioned back. If the photos of this person as their male self and female self are placed side by side, they look like their own twin.

As for trans children going through puberty, that is a very difficult subject with many pros and cons on both sides. I work with the LGBTQ+ community and if I had a trans child right now, I still do not know what I would do regarding transitioning and puberty, it's that difficult.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it's wonderful that he/they is able to do this, and I hope it paves the way for others to safely do it, too

Also this photo is absolutely freaking adorable



Source: https://www.halifaxexaminer.ca/featured/juno-and-umbrella-academy-star-elliot-page-comes-out-as-trans/

Very pretty face!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did the shape of his face change so much?

Testosterone. It seems a lot of the public really doesn’t understand what a gigantic difference that hormone makes. Transgender women will never be the same as women in terms of bone density, musculature, size of organs etc. no matter how much estrogen and progesterone they take because the changes testosterone makes are permanent. And transgender men who go on testosterone are very quickly and permanently changed in a way that detransitioning cannot cure.

Wow, that does make a case for starting young if you know you are trans.

No, it does not. Good Lord!

So much misinformation here.

Both FTM and MTF trans persons must stay on hormones for life. Why? To maintain. They will eventually reach a dose that their doctor will determine is their maintenance dose, which will be the perfect amount to keep them at the correct level of masculinity/femininity that they, the trans person, desire.

There is no optimal level of Masculin or Feminimn that a doctor doses hormones to achieve. It is all totally personal and up to each transitioning person. Of course, I will add that a doctor will not allow a patient to have access to too much hormones, of course.

If a trans person stops their hormons, their appearance that has not been altered by any kind of surgery will change back. I have only known one trans person who transitioned with hormones, no surgery, and then years later transitioned back. If the photos of this person as their male self and female self are placed side by side, they look like their own twin.

As for trans children going through puberty, that is a very difficult subject with many pros and cons on both sides. I work with the LGBTQ+ community and if I had a trans child right now, I still do not know what I would do regarding transitioning and puberty, it's that difficult.

Yes, there are no unscrupulous doctors and certainly no doctors who are willing to compromise their professional ethics for financial gain!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really hope Elliot is happy and is now at peace with himself. But I can't stop thinking how hard it must be to be a man who is 5'1" and weighs around 100 pounds.

Yes, and what kind of roles are there for a 5'1 man?

Ask Tom Cruise and Dustin Hoffman.

They’re both 5’6” - 5’7”. Big difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really hope Elliot is happy and is now at peace with himself. But I can't stop thinking how hard it must be to be a man who is 5'1" and weighs around 100 pounds.

Yes, and what kind of roles are there for a 5'1 man?

Ask Tom Cruise and Dustin Hoffman.

They’re both 5’6” - 5’7”. Big difference.

Same goes for leading man roles in Page’s personal life too. I mean, Page will probably be fine in that department on account of being rich and famous. But the reality is that most straight women are interested in sex with big strong men who have penises, which is something someone in Page’s position will never be able to provide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did the shape of his face change so much?

Testosterone. It seems a lot of the public really doesn’t understand what a gigantic difference that hormone makes. Transgender women will never be the same as women in terms of bone density, musculature, size of organs etc. no matter how much estrogen and progesterone they take because the changes testosterone makes are permanent. And transgender men who go on testosterone are very quickly and permanently changed in a way that detransitioning cannot cure.

Wow, that does make a case for starting young if you know you are trans.

Trans kids often opt for puberty blockers. Not permanent but gives them time to mature emotionally and figure out what they really want.

What do you consider “permanent”? I know I’m a big fan of bone density for my DD.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/puberty-blockers-stunt-bone-growth-of-children-tlv8qmdcd

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really hope Elliot is happy and is now at peace with himself. But I can't stop thinking how hard it must be to be a man who is 5'1" and weighs around 100 pounds.

Yes, and what kind of roles are there for a 5'1 man?

Ask Tom Cruise and Dustin Hoffman.

They’re both 5’6” - 5’7”. Big difference.

Same goes for leading man roles in Page’s personal life too. I mean, Page will probably be fine in that department on account of being rich and famous. But the reality is that most straight women are interested in sex with big strong men who have penises, which is something someone in Page’s position will never be able to provide.

My guess is he will be limited to voice roles. Look at his current filmography and everything current looks to be voice only...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really hope Elliot is happy and is now at peace with himself. But I can't stop thinking how hard it must be to be a man who is 5'1" and weighs around 100 pounds.

Yes, and what kind of roles are there for a 5'1 man?

Ask Tom Cruise and Dustin Hoffman.

They’re both 5’6” - 5’7”. Big difference.

Same goes for leading man roles in Page’s personal life too. I mean, Page will probably be fine in that department on account of being rich and famous. But the reality is that most straight women are interested in sex with big strong men who have penises, which is something someone in Page’s position will never be able to provide.

Why would he be limited to dating straight women? I know a few trans guys who are way less rich, famous, and attractive than he is. They do as well as anyone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did the shape of his face change so much?

Testosterone. It seems a lot of the public really doesn’t understand what a gigantic difference that hormone makes. Transgender women will never be the same as women in terms of bone density, musculature, size of organs etc. no matter how much estrogen and progesterone they take because the changes testosterone makes are permanent. And transgender men who go on testosterone are very quickly and permanently changed in a way that detransitioning cannot cure.

Wow, that does make a case for starting young if you know you are trans.

Trans kids often opt for puberty blockers. Not permanent but gives them time to mature emotionally and figure out what they really want.

What do you consider “permanent”? I know I’m a big fan of bone density for my DD.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/puberty-blockers-stunt-bone-growth-of-children-tlv8qmdcd

I'm an even bigger fan of protecting my child's mental health and overall well being. The article states the (tiny) study is not conclusive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did the shape of his face change so much?

Testosterone. It seems a lot of the public really doesn’t understand what a gigantic difference that hormone makes. Transgender women will never be the same as women in terms of bone density, musculature, size of organs etc. no matter how much estrogen and progesterone they take because the changes testosterone makes are permanent. And transgender men who go on testosterone are very quickly and permanently changed in a way that detransitioning cannot cure.

Wow, that does make a case for starting young if you know you are trans.

Trans kids often opt for puberty blockers. Not permanent but gives them time to mature emotionally and figure out what they really want.

What do you consider “permanent”? I know I’m a big fan of bone density for my DD.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/puberty-blockers-stunt-bone-growth-of-children-tlv8qmdcd

I'm an even bigger fan of protecting my child's mental health and overall well being. The article states the (tiny) study is not conclusive.

Blockers protect the mental health of gender dysphoric children in much the same way diet pills protect the mental health of children with eating disorders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really hope Elliot is happy and is now at peace with himself. But I can't stop thinking how hard it must be to be a man who is 5'1" and weighs around 100 pounds.

Yes, and what kind of roles are there for a 5'1 man?

Ask Tom Cruise and Dustin Hoffman.

They’re both 5’6” - 5’7”. Big difference.

Same goes for leading man roles in Page’s personal life too. I mean, Page will probably be fine in that department on account of being rich and famous. But the reality is that most straight women are interested in sex with big strong men who have penises, which is something someone in Page’s position will never be able to provide.

Plenty of women do not want big, strong men. I like rugged men in good shape, but big? No. And I prefer them to be pretty close to my height, which is 5'3". Also, transmen can have penises. You'd be surprised how many women like sex with men, but are turned off by traditionally masculine men.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really hope Elliot is happy and is now at peace with himself. But I can't stop thinking how hard it must be to be a man who is 5'1" and weighs around 100 pounds.

Yes, and what kind of roles are there for a 5'1 man?

Ask Tom Cruise and Dustin Hoffman.

They’re both 5’6” - 5’7”. Big difference.

Same goes for leading man roles in Page’s personal life too. I mean, Page will probably be fine in that department on account of being rich and famous. But the reality is that most straight women are interested in sex with big strong men who have penises, which is something someone in Page’s position will never be able to provide.

Plenty of women do not want big, strong men. I like rugged men in good shape, but big? No. And I prefer them to be pretty close to my height, which is 5'3". Also, transmen can have penises. You'd be surprised how many women like sex with men, but are turned off by traditionally masculine men.

No they can’t. Trans men can take part of the skin from somewhere like their arm and pay surgeons to try to fashion it into something that looks somewhat like a penis. But it’s not a penis and will never function like one. And the surgery can do real damage to the poor arm that was cannibalized.

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Gabriel mac had an interesting article on bottom surgery the other day. I wasn’t aware how brutal this was and how little (frankly) is accomplished. He seems satisfied.