What is your take on the Angelina Jolie/Brad Pitt divorce saga? What happened on the plane?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Jolie seems controlling and crazy. Clearly vindictive.

It’s obvious she’s used the divorce and custody battle to punish him. She isn’t protecting anybody. She’s destroyed their childhood and relationship with their father.

Guess what? Even crappy fathers get joint custody. It’s important for families to have relationships.

He had one public incident then got help. We’ve all seen celebs with decades long addictions who still see their kids. He actually got clean quickly yet is still fighting for custody.

If Sheen could see his kids, why can’t Pitt?

Those kids will eventually turn on Jolie. Just wait until they need Hollywood connections. They’ll want Pitt then.

Aniston ditched the mom who raised her for her better connected dad when she decided to be an actress.

Maybe Pitt and Aniston will be the next Bennifer?

Why are you bringing Aniston into this? Her mother was a narcissistic nut job who belittled her and sold her old. Not like her dad was a big Hollywood player.
He was just nice to her.

Her Dad abandoned her while her Mom raised her. She dumped her for dad when she needed connections. No surprise that hurt her mom and caused her to lash out.

Regardless, Jolie is worse than Anniston’s mom. Jolie is vindictive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jolie seems controlling and crazy. Clearly vindictive.

It’s obvious she’s used the divorce and custody battle to punish him. She isn’t protecting anybody. She’s destroyed their childhood and relationship with their father.

Guess what? Even crappy fathers get joint custody. It’s important for families to have relationships.

He had one public incident then got help. We’ve all seen celebs with decades long addictions who still see their kids. He actually got clean quickly yet is still fighting for custody.

If Sheen could see his kids, why can’t Pitt?

Those kids will eventually turn on Jolie. Just wait until they need Hollywood connections. They’ll want Pitt then.

Aniston ditched the mom who raised her for her better connected dad when she decided to be an actress.

Maybe Pitt and Aniston will be the next Bennifer?

Why are you bringing Aniston into this? Her mother was a narcissistic nut job who belittled her and sold her old. Not like her dad was a big Hollywood player.
He was just nice to her.

Her Dad abandoned her while her Mom raised her. She dumped her for dad when she needed connections. No surprise that hurt her mom and caused her to lash out.

Regardless, Jolie is worse than Anniston’s mom. Jolie is vindictive.

Jolie is vindictive in exactly the same way her own mother was vindictive. Apple, tree.

[Anonymous]

There is a blind suggesting she really believes she's doing what's best for the kids by keeping them away from their Pitt "hick" relatives. I mean heaven forbid they have contact with middle american families. Such a weird woman.

https://blindgossip.com/unbalanced-children/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is a blind suggesting she really believes she's doing what's best for the kids by keeping them away from their Pitt "hick" relatives. I mean heaven forbid they have contact with middle american families. Such a weird woman.

https://blindgossip.com/unbalanced-children/

That’s sad that she’s trying to cut the kids off from not just Brad but his parents and family as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is a blind suggesting she really believes she's doing what's best for the kids by keeping them away from their Pitt "hick" relatives. I mean heaven forbid they have contact with middle american families. Such a weird woman.

https://blindgossip.com/unbalanced-children/

That’s sad that she’s trying to cut the kids off from not just Brad but his parents and family as well.

Especially since I believe one of Brad's siblings also adopted Ethiopian children, and the families do volunteer work there. My guess is there was always friction there (they adored Jen A, are very Christian etc.) and this was just a convenient excuse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The older adopted kids supposedly don’t want to see him, which isn’t surprising given that she successfully alienated them from him.

Or they know the worst of him and are opting out.

They've been divorcing for over 4 years. She's had that long to alienate them from their father.

And Brad had longer than that to “alienate “ himself. Not one of us really knows what kind of parent he has been. It’s odd: In other threads, people encourage others to have the courage and self-regard to distance themselves from toxic people, including their own parents. It’s possible that in a very healthy way, at least some of the kids would like to do this for themselves. I’m not assuming that this IS the case — but that it plausibly could be. Some of you may have no idea what living with an alcoholic, substance abuser can be like.

Sounds like some posters may have come in at the end, as it were. Did y'all follow the "unconventional" upbringing of her kids that Jolie showed off, years ago? Pitt tried to give the children some normalcy and was unable to get past Jolie. They only started to go to school, ever, after the divorce started and the judge forced it.

The kids likely do have terrible ideas about their dad. But not ideas with substance.

Yes to this - I definitely get a my way or the highway vibe from Jolie in just reading about the divorce. The fact that she agreed to this private judge and has subsequently tried to have him removed screams that she just didn't like when decisions didn't go her way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The older adopted kids supposedly don’t want to see him, which isn’t surprising given that she successfully alienated them from him.

Or they know the worst of him and are opting out.

They've been divorcing for over 4 years. She's had that long to alienate them from their father.

And Brad had longer than that to “alienate “ himself. Not one of us really knows what kind of parent he has been. It’s odd: In other threads, people encourage others to have the courage and self-regard to distance themselves from toxic people, including their own parents. It’s possible that in a very healthy way, at least some of the kids would like to do this for themselves. I’m not assuming that this IS the case — but that it plausibly could be. Some of you may have no idea what living with an alcoholic, substance abuser can be like.

Sounds like some posters may have come in at the end, as it were. Did y'all follow the "unconventional" upbringing of her kids that Jolie showed off, years ago? Pitt tried to give the children some normalcy and was unable to get past Jolie. They only started to go to school, ever, after the divorce started and the judge forced it.

The kids likely do have terrible ideas about their dad. But not ideas with substance.

Yes to this - I definitely get a my way or the highway vibe from Jolie in just reading about the divorce. The fact that she agreed to this private judge and has subsequently tried to have him removed screams that she just didn't like when decisions didn't go her way.

Same with replacing her team of lawyers, who felt she was making the situation too toxic and clearly did not support her claims against Brad. She's very pampered and used to getting her way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No winners here. Those kids must be very screwed up. She did get a partial victory in the sense that she was able to ice him out for a long time, and make sure the kids' bond was mostly broken. Very sad.

The kids aren’t babies though. Maybe she’s trying to protect the kids — who have decided for their own reasons that they don’t want him to have custody and decision- making powers over them. It does happen, it it may have much more to do with him as a father than anything else.
While there are no winners here, being forced by the courts to be in the custody of someone that you feel isn’t a good parent can leave you feeling very helpless and very screwed.

Yes, of course children make decisions and decide they don't want to see a parent. That doesn't mean they should get their wish. Children are children, not adults.

Children are not chattel. They have thoughts, opinions and ideas. They should be heard.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No winners here. Those kids must be very screwed up. She did get a partial victory in the sense that she was able to ice him out for a long time, and make sure the kids' bond was mostly broken. Very sad.

The kids aren’t babies though. Maybe she’s trying to protect the kids — who have decided for their own reasons that they don’t want him to have custody and decision- making powers over them. It does happen, it it may have much more to do with him as a father than anything else.
While there are no winners here, being forced by the courts to be in the custody of someone that you feel isn’t a good parent can leave you feeling very helpless and very screwed.

Yes, of course children make decisions and decide they don't want to see a parent. That doesn't mean they should get their wish. Children are children, not adults.

Children are not chattel. They have thoughts, opinions and ideas. They should be heard.

I'm sure the children express their ideas and opinions all day long if they are like most children. But that doesn't mean they get to decide certain things better left to adults.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No winners here. Those kids must be very screwed up. She did get a partial victory in the sense that she was able to ice him out for a long time, and make sure the kids' bond was mostly broken. Very sad.

The kids aren’t babies though. Maybe she’s trying to protect the kids — who have decided for their own reasons that they don’t want him to have custody and decision- making powers over them. It does happen, it it may have much more to do with him as a father than anything else.
While there are no winners here, being forced by the courts to be in the custody of someone that you feel isn’t a good parent can leave you feeling very helpless and very screwed.

Yes, of course children make decisions and decide they don't want to see a parent. That doesn't mean they should get their wish. Children are children, not adults.

Children are not chattel. They have thoughts, opinions and ideas. They should be heard.

I'm sure the children express their ideas and opinions all day long if they are like most children. But that doesn't mean they get to decide certain things better left to adults.

The judge heard from a ton of professionals who'd been working with the kids. I'm sure they represented the kids' viewpoints fairly and gave objective reports about their feelings, attachment issues, possible parental alienation etc. What parent in his or her right mind would want a child to be put in the horrible position of testifying in court? And what judge would want that, or find it credible given the implicit pressure to "perform" for one parent?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The older adopted kids supposedly don’t want to see him, which isn’t surprising given that she successfully alienated them from him.

Or they know the worst of him and are opting out.

They've been divorcing for over 4 years. She's had that long to alienate them from their father.

And Brad had longer than that to “alienate “ himself. Not one of us really knows what kind of parent he has been. It’s odd: In other threads, people encourage others to have the courage and self-regard to distance themselves from toxic people, including their own parents. It’s possible that in a very healthy way, at least some of the kids would like to do this for themselves. I’m not assuming that this IS the case — but that it plausibly could be. Some of you may have no idea what living with an alcoholic, substance abuser can be like.

Sounds like some posters may have come in at the end, as it were. Did y'all follow the "unconventional" upbringing of her kids that Jolie showed off, years ago? Pitt tried to give the children some normalcy and was unable to get past Jolie. They only started to go to school, ever, after the divorce started and the judge forced it.

The kids likely do have terrible ideas about their dad. But not ideas with substance.

Yes to this - I definitely get a my way or the highway vibe from Jolie in just reading about the divorce. The fact that she agreed to this private judge and has subsequently tried to have him removed screams that she just didn't like when decisions didn't go her way.

Same with replacing her team of lawyers, who felt she was making the situation too toxic and clearly did not support her claims against Brad. She's very pampered and used to getting her way.

I was wondering if she had also replaced her legal team, but of course she did. I'm team Brad here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The older adopted kids supposedly don’t want to see him, which isn’t surprising given that she successfully alienated them from him.

Or they know the worst of him and are opting out.

They've been divorcing for over 4 years. She's had that long to alienate them from their father.

And Brad had longer than that to “alienate “ himself. Not one of us really knows what kind of parent he has been. It’s odd: In other threads, people encourage others to have the courage and self-regard to distance themselves from toxic people, including their own parents. It’s possible that in a very healthy way, at least some of the kids would like to do this for themselves. I’m not assuming that this IS the case — but that it plausibly could be. Some of you may have no idea what living with an alcoholic, substance abuser can be like.

Sounds like some posters may have come in at the end, as it were. Did y'all follow the "unconventional" upbringing of her kids that Jolie showed off, years ago? Pitt tried to give the children some normalcy and was unable to get past Jolie. They only started to go to school, ever, after the divorce started and the judge forced it.

The kids likely do have terrible ideas about their dad. But not ideas with substance.

Yes to this - I definitely get a my way or the highway vibe from Jolie in just reading about the divorce. The fact that she agreed to this private judge and has subsequently tried to have him removed screams that she just didn't like when decisions didn't go her way.

Same with replacing her team of lawyers, who felt she was making the situation too toxic and clearly did not support her claims against Brad. She's very pampered and used to getting her way.

I was wondering if she had also replaced her legal team, but of course she did. I'm team Brad here.

The judge admonished her to refrain from telling the kids they were unsafe with their father. And yet she's effectively continuing to do that. Does anyone really, truly believe those children are unsafe with Brad Pitt?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The older adopted kids supposedly don’t want to see him, which isn’t surprising given that she successfully alienated them from him.

Or they know the worst of him and are opting out.

They've been divorcing for over 4 years. She's had that long to alienate them from their father.

And Brad had longer than that to “alienate “ himself. Not one of us really knows what kind of parent he has been. It’s odd: In other threads, people encourage others to have the courage and self-regard to distance themselves from toxic people, including their own parents. It’s possible that in a very healthy way, at least some of the kids would like to do this for themselves. I’m not assuming that this IS the case — but that it plausibly could be. Some of you may have no idea what living with an alcoholic, substance abuser can be like.

Sounds like some posters may have come in at the end, as it were. Did y'all follow the "unconventional" upbringing of her kids that Jolie showed off, years ago? Pitt tried to give the children some normalcy and was unable to get past Jolie. They only started to go to school, ever, after the divorce started and the judge forced it.

The kids likely do have terrible ideas about their dad. But not ideas with substance.

Exactly. And do you honestly think that if there were any legit allegations of abuse (substance or otherwise) that affected the kids, she wouldn't have thrown it all out there? She has been desperate to get something 'real' on him for years. Yes, seems like he liked to drink. But by all accounts (except maybe hers, which lack all legitimacy, and those of her minion Maddox) he was and continues to be a good dad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The older adopted kids supposedly don’t want to see him, which isn’t surprising given that she successfully alienated them from him.

Or they know the worst of him and are opting out.

They've been divorcing for over 4 years. She's had that long to alienate them from their father.

And Brad had longer than that to “alienate “ himself. Not one of us really knows what kind of parent he has been. It’s odd: In other threads, people encourage others to have the courage and self-regard to distance themselves from toxic people, including their own parents. It’s possible that in a very healthy way, at least some of the kids would like to do this for themselves. I’m not assuming that this IS the case — but that it plausibly could be. Some of you may have no idea what living with an alcoholic, substance abuser can be like.

Sounds like some posters may have come in at the end, as it were. Did y'all follow the "unconventional" upbringing of her kids that Jolie showed off, years ago? Pitt tried to give the children some normalcy and was unable to get past Jolie. They only started to go to school, ever, after the divorce started and the judge forced it.

The kids likely do have terrible ideas about their dad. But not ideas with substance.

Exactly. And do you honestly think that if there were any legit allegations of abuse (substance or otherwise) that affected the kids, she wouldn't have thrown it all out there? She has been desperate to get something 'real' on him for years. Yes, seems like he liked to drink. But by all accounts (except maybe hers, which lack all legitimacy, and those of her minion Maddox) he was and continues to be a good dad.

He hasn’t been interested in those kids since they were toddlers

[Anonymous]

She's poison and he was a fool for drinking it.