Is Notre Dame screwing up?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/notredame/comments/idqczz/people_are_legitimately_going_crazy_if_you_havent/

People are legitimately going crazy. If you haven't figured it out yet, we ARE going home.

This is f-ing ridiculous. I was sitting outside in the grass today having just finished eating with the very few people I hang out with these days, our masks were off as we were sipping some water sitting six feet apart (trying to enjoy the last days on campus we more than likely have left as seniors) and a random freshmen girl comes up to us and tells us that if we're done eating we should go back to our rooms. After we say were almost done and don't move, she proceeds to take a god damn picture of us and tell's us she's reporting us for not socially distancing properly?! It's ridiculous that ND has given some sort of power tripping-complex to students, making them think that its the student's fault for letting COVID spread and that it's their duty to snitch on people not following "guidelines."

The Dome has created fear and hostility amongst the student body and instituted a remote learning environment no different than an experience we could have enjoyed from the safety of our own homes. They have actually made some of us think it's our fault. Even without off-campus parties, this shit was bound to happen... entire floors of residence halls have been pseudo quarantined already if u haven't heard. We all f-ing shower, shit, and spit in the same bathrooms; we all live TOGETHER. Doesn't take a biology major to know this was bound to happen, parties or not. They then have the audacity to point to the student body and say WE "need to do better" when they could barely feed their own students put in isolation!? I love ND and I know there are a lot of people just doing their best, but this is embarrassing. Obviously, this is an unprecedented situation but the Dome brought this upon themselves as soon as they forced students to return and offered no remote learning options.

At this point, I question why they even lie to us. They expect students to look forward to sitting in their rooms all day just so we can have the chance to occasionally go to in-person classes where we sit 6 feet apart and not socialize with anyone? That's our f-ing reward for sitting in our rooms for two weeks, just so we can risk it all happening again. F no. If you haven't caught on by now, ND is "surveillance testing" not so we can go back to in-person classes, but so they can send us home without looking entirely irresponsible. "uR cLEan, gO HoMe pLz" <- that'll be the message in 1-2 weeks. Guarantee people who test negative will be encouraged to get off campus as soon as possible. The story now is just a cover so people don't start panicking/trying to move off early.

Yeah, this is a f-ing rant, but ND literally killed any semblance of a fun or at least comfortable senior year for me. Just let me have this.

Wow, I didn't realize ND was discouraging students from eating sitting outside.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Chicago Trib has an article on the events. The testing is not going well. They are overwhelmed and now only giving tests to those with multiple symptoms.

Wrong. They are doing surveillance testing now. Positivity rate way down today.

I found the article PP mentioned. It describes the testing situation a week ago, not current time.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-covid-19-notre-dame-testing-outbreak-20200821-525chzkbuncfxidygnkkyevvsa-story.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Wow, I didn't realize ND was discouraging students from eating sitting outside.

The reddit posted wasn't eating anymore. He or she was sitting with friends, done eating... so technically socializing, and another students took their picture and threatened to report them, possibly leading them to being expelled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/notredame/comments/idqczz/people_are_legitimately_going_crazy_if_you_havent/

People are legitimately going crazy. If you haven't figured it out yet, we ARE going home.

This is f-ing ridiculous. I was sitting outside in the grass today having just finished eating with the very few people I hang out with these days, our masks were off as we were sipping some water sitting six feet apart (trying to enjoy the last days on campus we more than likely have left as seniors) and a random freshmen girl comes up to us and tells us that if we're done eating we should go back to our rooms. After we say were almost done and don't move, she proceeds to take a god damn picture of us and tell's us she's reporting us for not socially distancing properly?! It's ridiculous that ND has given some sort of power tripping-complex to students, making them think that its the student's fault for letting COVID spread and that it's their duty to snitch on people not following "guidelines."

The Dome has created fear and hostility amongst the student body and instituted a remote learning environment no different than an experience we could have enjoyed from the safety of our own homes. They have actually made some of us think it's our fault. Even without off-campus parties, this shit was bound to happen... entire floors of residence halls have been pseudo quarantined already if u haven't heard. We all f-ing shower, shit, and spit in the same bathrooms; we all live TOGETHER. Doesn't take a biology major to know this was bound to happen, parties or not. They then have the audacity to point to the student body and say WE "need to do better" when they could barely feed their own students put in isolation!? I love ND and I know there are a lot of people just doing their best, but this is embarrassing. Obviously, this is an unprecedented situation but the Dome brought this upon themselves as soon as they forced students to return and offered no remote learning options.

At this point, I question why they even lie to us. They expect students to look forward to sitting in their rooms all day just so we can have the chance to occasionally go to in-person classes where we sit 6 feet apart and not socialize with anyone? That's our f-ing reward for sitting in our rooms for two weeks, just so we can risk it all happening again. F no. If you haven't caught on by now, ND is "surveillance testing" not so we can go back to in-person classes, but so they can send us home without looking entirely irresponsible. "uR cLEan, gO HoMe pLz" <- that'll be the message in 1-2 weeks. Guarantee people who test negative will be encouraged to get off campus as soon as possible. The story now is just a cover so people don't start panicking/trying to move off early.

Yeah, this is a f-ing rant, but ND literally killed any semblance of a fun or at least comfortable senior year for me. Just let me have this.

What an immature person. How did these kids get into ND??? And “random freshman girl”-you don’t call someone “random.” She was following the honor code.

[Anonymous]

I must be missing something. Did these kids CHOOSE to go to campus? Was there an online from home option? If there was and kids chose not to take it, that’s their fault and all bets are off. Being at home is not the end of the world. They chose to be at school in a hellish situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I must be missing something. Did these kids CHOOSE to go to campus? Was there an online from home option? If there was and kids chose not to take it, that’s their fault and all bets are off. Being at home is not the end of the world. They chose to be at school in a hellish situation.

There was no online option and ND made most students take a leave if they did not want to come to campus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I must be missing something. Did these kids CHOOSE to go to campus? Was there an online from home option? If there was and kids chose not to take it, that’s their fault and all bets are off. Being at home is not the end of the world. They chose to be at school in a hellish situation.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wsbt.com/amp/news/local/notre-dame-students-say-university-forced-them-to-choose-between-education-safety

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/notredame/comments/idqczz/people_are_legitimately_going_crazy_if_you_havent/

People are legitimately going crazy. If you haven't figured it out yet, we ARE going home.

This is f-ing ridiculous. I was sitting outside in the grass today having just finished eating with the very few people I hang out with these days, our masks were off as we were sipping some water sitting six feet apart (trying to enjoy the last days on campus we more than likely have left as seniors) and a random freshmen girl comes up to us and tells us that if we're done eating we should go back to our rooms. After we say were almost done and don't move, she proceeds to take a god damn picture of us and tell's us she's reporting us for not socially distancing properly?! It's ridiculous that ND has given some sort of power tripping-complex to students, making them think that its the student's fault for letting COVID spread and that it's their duty to snitch on people not following "guidelines."

The Dome has created fear and hostility amongst the student body and instituted a remote learning environment no different than an experience we could have enjoyed from the safety of our own homes. They have actually made some of us think it's our fault. Even without off-campus parties, this shit was bound to happen... entire floors of residence halls have been pseudo quarantined already if u haven't heard. We all f-ing shower, shit, and spit in the same bathrooms; we all live TOGETHER. Doesn't take a biology major to know this was bound to happen, parties or not. They then have the audacity to point to the student body and say WE "need to do better" when they could barely feed their own students put in isolation!? I love ND and I know there are a lot of people just doing their best, but this is embarrassing. Obviously, this is an unprecedented situation but the Dome brought this upon themselves as soon as they forced students to return and offered no remote learning options.

At this point, I question why they even lie to us. They expect students to look forward to sitting in their rooms all day just so we can have the chance to occasionally go to in-person classes where we sit 6 feet apart and not socialize with anyone? That's our f-ing reward for sitting in our rooms for two weeks, just so we can risk it all happening again. F no. If you haven't caught on by now, ND is "surveillance testing" not so we can go back to in-person classes, but so they can send us home without looking entirely irresponsible. "uR cLEan, gO HoMe pLz" <- that'll be the message in 1-2 weeks. Guarantee people who test negative will be encouraged to get off campus as soon as possible. The story now is just a cover so people don't start panicking/trying to move off early.

Yeah, this is a f-ing rant, but ND literally killed any semblance of a fun or at least comfortable senior year for me. Just let me have this.

What an immature person. How did these kids get into ND??? And “random freshman girl”-you don’t call someone “random.” She was following the honor code.

I dunno - this is where things will start getting messy fast. Kids in colleges all over the country are being asked to report violations of their school’s agreement but there’s a lot of grey area there. And millions of older teenage brains trying to figure it all out which sounds like a setup for disaster. Is a party with 20 kids crammed in a room reportable? Certainly. A few girls sitting outside 6 feet apart drinking their waters? Common sense and all public health knowledge we have says no. We weren’t there, we didn’t see what the “random freshman” saw, but I imagine scenarios like this playing out thousands of times and colleges suddenly becoming pretty toxic places.

[Anonymous]

A group of seniors let a random freshman girl bully them? Sounds made up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/notredame/comments/idqczz/people_are_legitimately_going_crazy_if_you_havent/

People are legitimately going crazy. If you haven't figured it out yet, we ARE going home.

This is f-ing ridiculous. I was sitting outside in the grass today having just finished eating with the very few people I hang out with these days, our masks were off as we were sipping some water sitting six feet apart (trying to enjoy the last days on campus we more than likely have left as seniors) and a random freshmen girl comes up to us and tells us that if we're done eating we should go back to our rooms. After we say were almost done and don't move, she proceeds to take a god damn picture of us and tell's us she's reporting us for not socially distancing properly?! It's ridiculous that ND has given some sort of power tripping-complex to students, making them think that its the student's fault for letting COVID spread and that it's their duty to snitch on people not following "guidelines."

The Dome has created fear and hostility amongst the student body and instituted a remote learning environment no different than an experience we could have enjoyed from the safety of our own homes. They have actually made some of us think it's our fault. Even without off-campus parties, this shit was bound to happen... entire floors of residence halls have been pseudo quarantined already if u haven't heard. We all f-ing shower, shit, and spit in the same bathrooms; we all live TOGETHER. Doesn't take a biology major to know this was bound to happen, parties or not. They then have the audacity to point to the student body and say WE "need to do better" when they could barely feed their own students put in isolation!? I love ND and I know there are a lot of people just doing their best, but this is embarrassing. Obviously, this is an unprecedented situation but the Dome brought this upon themselves as soon as they forced students to return and offered no remote learning options.

At this point, I question why they even lie to us. They expect students to look forward to sitting in their rooms all day just so we can have the chance to occasionally go to in-person classes where we sit 6 feet apart and not socialize with anyone? That's our f-ing reward for sitting in our rooms for two weeks, just so we can risk it all happening again. F no. If you haven't caught on by now, ND is "surveillance testing" not so we can go back to in-person classes, but so they can send us home without looking entirely irresponsible. "uR cLEan, gO HoMe pLz" <- that'll be the message in 1-2 weeks. Guarantee people who test negative will be encouraged to get off campus as soon as possible. The story now is just a cover so people don't start panicking/trying to move off early.

Yeah, this is a f-ing rant, but ND literally killed any semblance of a fun or at least comfortable senior year for me. Just let me have this.

It’s for football. Same with the ACC schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
It’s for football. Same with the ACC schools.

No, it's for football TV $$$

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I must be missing something. Did these kids CHOOSE to go to campus? Was there an online from home option? If there was and kids chose not to take it, that’s their fault and all bets are off. Being at home is not the end of the world. They chose to be at school in a hellish situation.

There was no online option and ND made most students take a leave if they did not want to come to campus.

That’s crazy that they didn’t offer one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A group of seniors let a random freshman girl bully them? Sounds made up.

Why? A photo of a group sitting together "socializing" could be incriminating right now. The fact that she was a freshman doesn't matter. It's the photo that matters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
What an immature person. How did these kids get into ND??? And “random freshman girl”-you don’t call someone “random.” She was following the honor code.

Random in this context means unknown to them. Was she following the honor code? The students presumably had permission to eat outside together. Has that been outlawed at Notre Dame?

[Anonymous]

Provost Miranda seems great. ND lucky to get her from Rice.