The Karen meme silences White women

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Anonymous wrote:I have found that Karens exist on all sides of the political spectrum. Remember that very few white women in the DMV identify as Republicans. I also think there’s something going on beneath the surface here. That is, incel guys who sought, but failed, to have the happy married suburban life with a Karen have gleefully hopped on the bandwagon too.

The misogynistic aspect of all of this does make me wonder who is most invested in promoting the whole Karen thing and I don't think it's Black women (or men). Remember that in 2016 Black women overwhelmingly supported Hillary Clinton.

Fellow white women, please don't let anyone use your fear of being called a Karen to manipulate you into disengaging or hardening your heart toward people who don't look like you.

The post immediately above yours uses a "Karen" calling out a black child for selling lemonade, inferring that the "Karen" is white. As other posters have said, men don't use this term. So, who's left? It is disingenuous to say black women don't have an interest in promoting it when there are multitudes of posts on the protests written by posters who proclaim to be black women, calling white female posters "karens."

OP is letting her fear of being called a Karen, essentially her fear of getting her feelings hurt, silence her from speaking out about injustice. That's on her. Black women rightly calling out racist behavior and attitudes are not silencing OP.

PP's point is that it is hypocritical for black women speaking out to use a racist and misogynist term.

I think the problem is the meme is being coopted for white racist and misogynist aims. "Karen" has morphed from a specific set of harassing, potentially dangerous, racist behaviors, for example, the woman in Central Park calling the police on the guy who told her to leash her dog, into a much broader, catchall for all white women. I genuinely don't think Black women are responsible for this change in the way the meme is being deployed. Black women's objections the Karen behavior are legitimate and fact based.

I think this new broader meaning is being used to divide women against each other and peel off white women who are on the fence about working toward social change. If Karen can be re-cast as a slur against white women in general it works to shore up racial divides and gives white women an excuse to opt out. Something along the lines of "Don't listen to them, accusing you of being a racist Karen. They call everyone racist. To hell with them."

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Anonymous wrote:I have found that Karens exist on all sides of the political spectrum. Remember that very few white women in the DMV identify as Republicans. I also think there’s something going on beneath the surface here. That is, incel guys who sought, but failed, to have the happy married suburban life with a Karen have gleefully hopped on the bandwagon too.

The misogynistic aspect of all of this does make me wonder who is most invested in promoting the whole Karen thing and I don't think it's Black women (or men). Remember that in 2016 Black women overwhelmingly supported Hillary Clinton.

Fellow white women, please don't let anyone use your fear of being called a Karen to manipulate you into disengaging or hardening your heart toward people who don't look like you.

The post immediately above yours uses a "Karen" calling out a black child for selling lemonade, inferring that the "Karen" is white. As other posters have said, men don't use this term. So, who's left? It is disingenuous to say black women don't have an interest in promoting it when there are multitudes of posts on the protests written by posters who proclaim to be black women, calling white female posters "karens."

OP is letting her fear of being called a Karen, essentially her fear of getting her feelings hurt, silence her from speaking out about injustice. That's on her. Black women rightly calling out racist behavior and attitudes are not silencing OP.

PP's point is that it is hypocritical for black women speaking out to use a racist and misogynist term.

I think the problem is the meme is being coopted for white racist and misogynist aims. "Karen" has morphed from a specific set of harassing, potentially dangerous, racist behaviors, for example, the woman in Central Park calling the police on the guy who told her to leash her dog, into a much broader, catchall for all white women. I genuinely don't think Black women are responsible for this change in the way the meme is being deployed. Black women's objections the Karen behavior are legitimate and fact based.

I think this new broader meaning is being used to divide women against each other and peel off white women who are on the fence about working toward social change. If Karen can be re-cast as a slur against white women in general it works to shore up racial divides and gives white women an excuse to opt out. Something along the lines of "Don't listen to them, accusing you of being a racist Karen. They call everyone racist. To hell with them."

Agree.

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Anonymous wrote:I was SILENCED at the Smoothie King! Now the world will not hear my voice!

I know, right? People are out here dying and she's upset that people didn't follow the proper curbside procedures at the Smoothie King.

The reason for the curbside procedures is to prevent people from getting COVID and ... dying.

So, I'm curious: The OP describes the scene in the store and said that she WALKED away. If her concern was about following curbside procedures, why didn't she stay in her car and call the store to let them know that she was there to pick up her curbside order? First, since she didn't mention doing that, she doesn't know if they would have complied. Second, why was she walking around and walking inside the store? By doing this, she became a part of the very behavior that she's complaining about.

I am the OP and I’m finally getting back to this thread since I left it hours ago when I started it. The last I posted was where I said maybe I am a Karen and ended with “peace”. To answer your question regarding calling to have them bring my smoothies curbside, I tried to call the number when I saw the situation and the phones were not connecting-auto message. While I was able to order the smoothie online via the app I was not able to actually speak with anybody via phone. the only way I could pick up my smoothies was to walk into the store. They were only two women working behind the counter and they were crazy busy, there was a line of about 8 to 10 people waiting to order and another 4 to 6 people waiting by the pick up counter.

. I felt uncomfortable yelling through the door hey, my name is such and such please walk out and give me my smoothies. It did not feel the right thing to do at that time. So I walked away as I stated. And to those who say a Karen is only somebody who unnecessarily calls the police on a black person, what about those of you who are calling me a Karen when that is not the situation in this instance? So yes it sounds like you would still call me a Karen even though I never alluded to calling the police or doing anything like that. So that supports my statement that I have lost my voice, as if I speak up I’m an entitled bitch or a Karen.

The only reason I purchased smoothies from this location was because they were advertising curbside pick up. I have a family member who is high risk, and we have been eating all of our food home cooked. This was a treat for us to actually get some thing outside of our house and also to support a small business. In this case they lost our business.

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Anonymous wrote:I was SILENCED at the Smoothie King! Now the world will not hear my voice!

I know, right? People are out here dying and she's upset that people didn't follow the proper curbside procedures at the Smoothie King.

The reason for the curbside procedures is to prevent people from getting COVID and ... dying.

So, I'm curious: The OP describes the scene in the store and said that she WALKED away. If her concern was about following curbside procedures, why didn't she stay in her car and call the store to let them know that she was there to pick up her curbside order? First, since she didn't mention doing that, she doesn't know if they would have complied. Second, why was she walking around and walking inside the store? By doing this, she became a part of the very behavior that she's complaining about.

I am the OP and I’m finally getting back to this thread since I left it hours ago when I started it. The last I posted was where I said maybe I am a Karen and ended with “peace”. To answer your question regarding calling to have them bring my smoothies curbside, I tried to call the number when I saw the situation and the phones were not connecting-auto message. While I was able to order the smoothie online via the app I was not able to actually speak with anybody via phone. the only way I could pick up my smoothies was to walk into the store. They were only two women working behind the counter and they were crazy busy, there was a line of about 8 to 10 people waiting to order and another 4 to 6 people waiting by the pick up counter.

. I felt uncomfortable yelling through the door hey, my name is such and such please walk out and give me my smoothies. It did not feel the right thing to do at that time. So I walked away as I stated. And to those who say a Karen is only somebody who unnecessarily calls the police on a black person, what about those of you who are calling me a Karen when that is not the situation in this instance? So yes it sounds like you would still call me a Karen even though I never alluded to calling the police or doing anything like that. So that supports my statement that I have lost my voice, as if I speak up I’m an entitled bitch or a Karen.

The only reason I purchased smoothies from this location was because they were advertising curbside pick up. I have a family member who is high risk, and we have been eating all of our food home cooked. This was a treat for us to actually get some thing outside of our house and also to support a small business. In this case they lost our business.

Your actions sound perfectly sane and reasonable to me.

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Anonymous wrote:I have found that Karens exist on all sides of the political spectrum. Remember that very few white women in the DMV identify as Republicans. I also think there’s something going on beneath the surface here. That is, incel guys who sought, but failed, to have the happy married suburban life with a Karen have gleefully hopped on the bandwagon too.

The misogynistic aspect of all of this does make me wonder who is most invested in promoting the whole Karen thing and I don't think it's Black women (or men). Remember that in 2016 Black women overwhelmingly supported Hillary Clinton.

Fellow white women, please don't let anyone use your fear of being called a Karen to manipulate you into disengaging or hardening your heart toward people who don't look like you.

The post immediately above yours uses a "Karen" calling out a black child for selling lemonade, inferring that the "Karen" is white. As other posters have said, men don't use this term. So, who's left? It is disingenuous to say black women don't have an interest in promoting it when there are multitudes of posts on the protests written by posters who proclaim to be black women, calling white female posters "karens."

OP is letting her fear of being called a Karen, essentially her fear of getting her feelings hurt, silence her from speaking out about injustice. That's on her. Black women rightly calling out racist behavior and attitudes are not silencing OP.

PP's point is that it is hypocritical for black women speaking out to use a racist and misogynist term.

I think the problem is the meme is being coopted for white racist and misogynist aims. "Karen" has morphed from a specific set of harassing, potentially dangerous, racist behaviors, for example, the woman in Central Park calling the police on the guy who told her to leash her dog, into a much broader, catchall for all white women. I genuinely don't think Black women are responsible for this change in the way the meme is being deployed. Black women's objections the Karen behavior are legitimate and fact based.

I think this new broader meaning is being used to divide women against each other and peel off white women who are on the fence about working toward social change. If Karen can be re-cast as a slur against white women in general it works to shore up racial divides and gives white women an excuse to opt out. Something along the lines of "Don't listen to them, accusing you of being a racist Karen. They call everyone racist. To hell with them."

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OP, that sounds quite reasonable.

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There is a HUGE difference between social currency and value contribution. You are talking about valuable contributions vs the social currency demonstrated through institutionalize norms.

Anonymous wrote:Okay. So what's your working definition of "social currency," if that is what you think should be the focus?

Still waiting on an answer to this.

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Anonymous wrote:OMG, this country has a lot of race relations issues. I wonder if this will be ever resolved. I have lived here for a long time, but am from a European country that has NOT colonized any country ever. We do have our issues for sure, but are a majority white society with not much immigration. I would definitely not like to be black in this country.

I think this whole Karen thing is so stupid and actually is a bit racist and sexist. It is not ok to discriminate against black people, and you guys can hopefully fix your issues, because oh my gosh, you have a LOT of issues that have been swept under the carpet. But racism can go both ways. Just because I am a white woman, I will not let you put me down, silence me or Karen me. Of course, it is easier for me, since I do not carry any guilt of the way black people have been dealt with in this country.

I have to admit, (many) people is this country are very self-centered, selfish and spoiled rotten. It is a very individualistic society, it's all about "me, me, me" and "greed greed greed" and "buy buy buy " and " more more more". Look at Starbucks. People spending loads of money on stuff they don't need; coffee, tea and other things. And your smoothies, and your mega mansions etc etc.

With all that said, stop berating, attacking and putting down white women, or any segment of society. Enough already! Fix your race relations issues, people!

Maybe you would be much happier in the innocent country you came from. Better if you went back there to bask in it’s wonderfulness.

Not at all innocent, and I did comment on it, maybe it did not register with you.
But race relations need to be corrected here, because this country is going downhill...and I am not the only one who feels this way.

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Anonymous wrote:OMG, this country has a lot of race relations issues. I wonder if this will be ever resolved. I have lived here for a long time, but am from a European country that has NOT colonized any country ever. We do have our issues for sure, but are a majority white society with not much immigration. I would definitely not like to be black in this country.

I think this whole Karen thing is so stupid and actually is a bit racist and sexist. It is not ok to discriminate against black people, and you guys can hopefully fix your issues, because oh my gosh, you have a LOT of issues that have been swept under the carpet. But racism can go both ways. Just because I am a white woman, I will not let you put me down, silence me or Karen me. Of course, it is easier for me, since I do not carry any guilt of the way black people have been dealt with in this country.

I have to admit, (many) people is this country are very self-centered, selfish and spoiled rotten. It is a very individualistic society, it's all about "me, me, me" and "greed greed greed" and "buy buy buy " and " more more more". Look at Starbucks. People spending loads of money on stuff they don't need; coffee, tea and other things. And your smoothies, and your mega mansions etc etc.

With all that said, stop berating, attacking and putting down white women, or any segment of society. Enough already! Fix your race relations issues, people!

Maybe you would be much happier in the innocent country you came from. Better if you went back there to bask in it’s wonderfulness.

You know, if PP thinks her home culture is so much better than where she is now, she should post the name of her country. I can GUARANTEE there is a long history of atrocities there, and plenty to criticize about what they are doing now.

but she won't. I can guarantee that, too.

Yes, you are correct; there are and I won't. Because that is not the topic of conversation on this thread. So, not relevant.

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Anonymous wrote:OMG, this country has a lot of race relations issues. I wonder if this will be ever resolved. I have lived here for a long time, but am from a European country that has NOT colonized any country ever. We do have our issues for sure, but are a majority white society with not much immigration. I would definitely not like to be black in this country.

I think this whole Karen thing is so stupid and actually is a bit racist and sexist. It is not ok to discriminate against black people, and you guys can hopefully fix your issues, because oh my gosh, you have a LOT of issues that have been swept under the carpet. But racism can go both ways. Just because I am a white woman, I will not let you put me down, silence me or Karen me. Of course, it is easier for me, since I do not carry any guilt of the way black people have been dealt with in this country.

I have to admit, (many) people is this country are very self-centered, selfish and spoiled rotten. It is a very individualistic society, it's all about "me, me, me" and "greed greed greed" and "buy buy buy " and " more more more". Look at Starbucks. People spending loads of money on stuff they don't need; coffee, tea and other things. And your smoothies, and your mega mansions etc etc.

With all that said, stop berating, attacking and putting down white women, or any segment of society. Enough already! Fix your race relations issues, people!

Maybe you would be much happier in the innocent country you came from. Better if you went back there to bask in it’s wonderfulness.

You know, if PP thinks her home culture is so much better than where she is now, she should post the name of her country. I can GUARANTEE there is a long history of atrocities there, and plenty to criticize about what they are doing now.

but she won't. I can guarantee that, too.

Yes, you are correct; there are and I won't. Because that is not the topic of conversation on this thread. So, not relevant.

It's very relevant that someone raises this criticism without putting up the comparison group -- even though you referenced it (without specifying which) in your first few sentences.

How can it not be relevant, if that is the point of your claim?

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Anonymous wrote:Entitled white women could stand to be silenced.

Cool. The next time I hear that black people need white allies, I’ll say f<>k you and the horse you rode in on.

Precisely. This is exactly why I power washed the deck today instead of protesting. OP has a perfectly valid point but it’s not THEIR point so it doesn’t count, and worse, they think she deserves to be bullied over it

You were NEVER going to protest. You were NEVER an ally. And your NEVER cared.

Do we have to care? Is it a requirement? Especially when white people are being painted as the villains who now must all bow down and apologize when most of them have done nothing wrong. Maybe people have other issues to deal with in their lives like cancer, or unemployment or special needs children. And come off your high horse. You won’t care anymore in two weeks either when the protests have died down and something else has replaced it as the fashionable issue for SJWs to wring their hands over.

You don’t have to do anything you don’t want to. You don’t want to care, I don’t expect you too. Just don’t sit here like you were on the fence when you NEVER cared. It’s clear everything is more important until it’s your family be killed. Then you’ll be screaming for help. And help will be there, unlike the way you were. Oh and I have no choice but to care bc it’s people that look like me, my sister, my husband, father, uncles, and friends dying from police brutality. But don’t you fret, there will be another event you can pretend to care about soon enough.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OMG, this country has a lot of race relations issues. I wonder if this will be ever resolved. I have lived here for a long time, but am from a European country that has NOT colonized any country ever. We do have our issues for sure, but are a majority white society with not much immigration. I would definitely not like to be black in this country.

I think this whole Karen thing is so stupid and actually is a bit racist and sexist. It is not ok to discriminate against black people, and you guys can hopefully fix your issues, because oh my gosh, you have a LOT of issues that have been swept under the carpet. But racism can go both ways. Just because I am a white woman, I will not let you put me down, silence me or Karen me. Of course, it is easier for me, since I do not carry any guilt of the way black people have been dealt with in this country.

I have to admit, (many) people is this country are very self-centered, selfish and spoiled rotten. It is a very individualistic society, it's all about "me, me, me" and "greed greed greed" and "buy buy buy " and " more more more". Look at Starbucks. People spending loads of money on stuff they don't need; coffee, tea and other things. And your smoothies, and your mega mansions etc etc.

With all that said, stop berating, attacking and putting down white women, or any segment of society. Enough already! Fix your race relations issues, people!

Maybe you would be much happier in the innocent country you came from. Better if you went back there to bask in it’s wonderfulness.

You know, if PP thinks her home culture is so much better than where she is now, she should post the name of her country. I can GUARANTEE there is a long history of atrocities there, and plenty to criticize about what they are doing now.

but she won't. I can guarantee that, too.

Yes, you are correct; there are and I won't. Because that is not the topic of conversation on this thread. So, not relevant.

PP
So you can dish it, but not take it. You like to throw stones, but you only do it from the shadows. Pot-shots.

Says a lot about you and the worth of your opinions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OMG, this country has a lot of race relations issues. I wonder if this will be ever resolved. I have lived here for a long time, but am from a European country that has NOT colonized any country ever. We do have our issues for sure, but are a majority white society with not much immigration. I would definitely not like to be black in this country.

I think this whole Karen thing is so stupid and actually is a bit racist and sexist. It is not ok to discriminate against black people, and you guys can hopefully fix your issues, because oh my gosh, you have a LOT of issues that have been swept under the carpet. But racism can go both ways. Just because I am a white woman, I will not let you put me down, silence me or Karen me. Of course, it is easier for me, since I do not carry any guilt of the way black people have been dealt with in this country.

I have to admit, (many) people is this country are very self-centered, selfish and spoiled rotten. It is a very individualistic society, it's all about "me, me, me" and "greed greed greed" and "buy buy buy " and " more more more". Look at Starbucks. People spending loads of money on stuff they don't need; coffee, tea and other things. And your smoothies, and your mega mansions etc etc.

With all that said, stop berating, attacking and putting down white women, or any segment of society. Enough already! Fix your race relations issues, people!

Maybe you would be much happier in the innocent country you came from. Better if you went back there to bask in it’s wonderfulness.

You know, if PP thinks her home culture is so much better than where she is now, she should post the name of her country. I can GUARANTEE there is a long history of atrocities there, and plenty to criticize about what they are doing now.

but she won't. I can guarantee that, too.

Yes, you are correct; there are and I won't. Because that is not the topic of conversation on this thread. So, not relevant.

Then why would you bring up something irrelevant? Hmmm....

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Anonymous wrote:Middle aged white women have been hated since forever.

The only social currency white women have is their sexual attraction to men. When that goes, society wants to push them off on an ice flow. Since we can't do that, we tell them to STFU and stand quietly in the corner where their aging body and appearance won't offend anyone's eyeballs.

Tell me I'm wrong.

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This is it.

Yes

You are wrong.

This is absolutely true if all you are good at is "being a woman," or if that is all you care about being judged in terms of, for social currency.

If you are good at journalism (Cokie Roberts), practicing medicine (Lee Beers), writing poetry (Mary Oliver), animal management (Temple Grandin), acting (so many: Judi Dench, Tilda Swinton, Cate Blanchett), mathematics (Mary Lucy Cartwright), and so on and so forth -- yes, there is discrimination, but many people care very much about what you have to do and say.

But after a certain age, you do have to bring more to the table than just "being a woman." That's true.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA "And so forth"?? You describe EIGHT middle aged white women in all of history, and THAT'S ENOUGH FOR YOU???

How many examples do you want?

It's not easy, that's true. You actually have to do something of value. Lots of women do. You should, too.

DP. I didn't realize people still believed meritocracy was a thing. I'm not suggesting that Cate Blanchett doesn't deserve to be recognized or whatnot, but women who are still considered relevant in middle age and up are both rare and privileged.

Depends on what you mean by rare. As someone noted above, there are many middle-aged female judges. There are also plenty of female physicians, and professors, and accountants. I wouldn't call it rare. I'd also like to see more, but that is difference from saying women are irrelevant.

Most middle aged women of all ethnicities are the ones taking care of the kids and aging parents while the (mostly) white men float to the top of their little fishbowls like lardy turds.

Absolutely true, and it shouldn't be so. But for many, many women, they are expected to do that was well as perform all the other duties and responsibilities for which they are valued, too.

Don't diminish other women's accomplishments to make yourself feel better. Don't do that.

LOL. You didn't get it. I am not putting down accomplished women who have made it to the top, and of course I am not saying women are irrelevant. I'm an architect, and in my profession very few women make it to the top. Most people can name one woman architect, if that. It doesn't mean that other women aren't working their asses off without recognition. If anything, I would say that you're the one putting down women by assuming that if they're not at the top then they don't belong there. I will reiterate that it's not a meritocracy.

Nope. I'm saying that if someone is whinging in hyperbole about how absolutely -- and without any exceptions to the contrary -- terrible, terrible, terrible middle-aged white women have it right now, they are both clueless and wrong. It's not helpful. It also isn't true. The fact that middle-aged white women have it worse than middle-aged men is certainly accurate, and a better starting point for change, and not the conversation to have right now.

Also, if someone says something wrong, and then literally says "Tell me I'm wrong," then they shouldn't be surprised. Please. That's painful.

You're either being obtuse in your reading of the conversation or you're just the negging troll responding to many different posters. Clearly you don't speak for all middle aged women and you are not in control of when it's okay for them to speak about whatever conversation they wish to have. Go do something else besides troll.

Misogynous negative troll.
Took someone's totally mundane exaggeration and tracked them down hunger games style to demand they correct the exaggeration.
Note how they transform the hyperbole themselves as they fall apart with rage, into "whinging in hyperbole about how absolutely -- and without any exceptions to the contrary -- terrible, terrible, terrible."

And if any woman listens they tell her to "do better, be better," and that some women succeed so if you don't it's your fault.
Troll troll troll, possibly in the literal sense as well troll.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah no. I reported a black lady for stealing from trader joes last week. She was shoving things into her bag and I asked he if she was going to pay for that. She started yelling and filming. Trader joes intervened and called the police. When someone is doing something wrong I don’t care what color you are, I’m speaking up.

And you never paused to think that maybe she is hungry? Or offer to pay for her food? Why do people steal food? Just for fun, right?

Case in point. If you are white, you will never win with these people. You will be blamed for the crimes of others. Not worth it. Just let people steal. Not your fight.

No, I thought of my best friend who works at a different trader joes who is having her hours cut becuase business is down from all the social distancing. I don’t care about thieves, use a food bank. Don’t steal! What is wrong with you? I’d report white people for doing the same!!

Nothing is wrong with me. Stealing is wrong. Calling people names (like Karen) is wrong. I have the moral compass to recognize this.

Our culture is so nasty and coarse I just try my best to remain anonymous. Not getting involved is the best way to do that. I have kids I need to raise, I can't have my life destroyed by some Twitter mob. Looking the other way and never speaking to strangers helps with that.

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Anonymous wrote:Entitled white women could stand to be silenced.

Cool. The next time I hear that black people need white allies, I’ll say f<>k you and the horse you rode in on.

Precisely. This is exactly why I power washed the deck today instead of protesting. OP has a perfectly valid point but it’s not THEIR point so it doesn’t count, and worse, they think she deserves to be bullied over it

You were NEVER going to protest. You were NEVER an ally. And your NEVER cared.

Do we have to care? Is it a requirement? Especially when white people are being painted as the villains who now must all bow down and apologize when most of them have done nothing wrong. Maybe people have other issues to deal with in their lives like cancer, or unemployment or special needs children. And come off your high horse. You won’t care anymore in two weeks either when the protests have died down and something else has replaced it as the fashionable issue for SJWs to wring their hands over.

You don’t have to do anything you don’t want to. You don’t want to care, I don’t expect you too. Just don’t sit here like you were on the fence when you NEVER cared. It’s clear everything is more important until it’s your family be killed. Then you’ll be screaming for help. And help will be there, unlike the way you were. Oh and I have no choice but to care bc it’s people that look like me, my sister, my husband, father, uncles, and friends dying from police brutality. But don’t you fret, there will be another event you can pretend to care about soon enough.

Hey, I'm not the PP you're responding to, but I contributing too much to this thread today because of a bunch of provocation by a troll who might be trolling you too.
I'm sorry I got so upset about mysogyny and sexism today. Today isn't the day. I hurt for you and all black people, and I cannot even understand the kind of hurt and anger you must be feeling this evening. I am so proud of the demonstrators, and so terrified of what this'll do to the pandemic.
I will continue to try to be your ally, even when you're not mine. I understand it. I realize the handicaps our society gives you and much greater than mine. I'm sorry and I will try to support you in your fight.