Pelosi announces impeachment inquiry

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe the White House thought releasing this transcript would help them. This is so bad.

It wa s their only move. Now they’re trying to spin it the way they did with “no collusion.”

It’s a duck, we watched it quack.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So is this memorandum related to the whistle blower or separate?

Go read the WaPo or NYT. You've got a lot of catching up to do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe the White House thought releasing this transcript would help them. This is so bad.

It wa s their only move. Now they’re trying to spin it the way they did with “no collusion.”

It’s a duck, we watched it quack.

You are missing the point. It was a logical request. There was corruption. Do you have problems with Dem Senators threatening Ukraine about an investigation?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe the White House thought releasing this transcript would help them. This is so bad.

It wa s their only move. Now they’re trying to spin it the way they did with “no collusion.”

It’s a duck, we watched it quack.

No, you dreamt a quack.
It doesn't show what you were hoping.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:read the WAPO summary of the phone call, not enough there to impeach. - lib

It's a critical piece of information, where the President asks another country's leader to investigate a political opponent. The other part of the puzzle is Trump's order to withhold aid before the call.
Put the two together and you have an impeachable offense.

Nope.

And, what the president did in relation to an investigation is NO DIFFERENT than what several Senators did - in a letter.
Are we going after them too?

The Senators are not running for the Presidency and Biden is not their direct political rival for the Presidency. Your equivalency is false.

Oh, please. Your reasoning is a stretch.
We can also go back to the whole Russia investigation - an effort by the DNC and Hillary Clinton to seek info from a foreign source to impact the election.

As we have said several times..... the Democrats accuse the opposition of everything they are guilty of.

Exactly.

Show us where Trump says "you'll get your money when you investigate Biden's son".

Until then....Womp Womp.

No need to show anything like that. The threat was implicit by withholding aid.

There doesn't need to be a threat. You can't ask a foreign government to help your political campaign by investigating your opponent, and you REALLY can't do that as president. Holy crap.

It's equivalent to inviting foreign intervention in an election.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe the White House thought releasing this transcript would help them. This is so bad.

Right.
It's inappropriate for a president to ask another one to meet with their Personal Atty? and Guliani is a personal atty right.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He's gone. The transcript proves that he made U.S. policy toward Ukraine contingent on an investigation of Biden.

So this is Pence's doing? Great, we get Pence for Pres!

Pence was sent to Poland last month to reiterate the con with the Ukranians. He is complicit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe the White House thought releasing this transcript would help them. This is so bad.

It wa s their only move. Now they’re trying to spin it the way they did with “no collusion.”

It’s a duck, we watched it quack.

You are missing the point. It was a logical request. There was corruption. Do you have problems with Dem Senators threatening Ukraine about an investigation?

You can't ask a foreign government to contribute to your presidential campaign by investigating your opponent. This...isn't a grey area.

[Anonymous]

Republicans are claiming this is nothing. If Trump loses next year, they'll definitely say it was because of this, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Election interference and violation of campaign finance law, from the WaPo:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/transcript-of-trumps-call-with-ukrainian-president-shows-him-offering-us-assistance-for-biden-investigation/2019/09/25/16aa36ca-df0f-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html

"President Trump told his Ukrainian counterpart to work with the U.S. attorney general to investigate the conduct of Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden and offered to meet with the foreign leader at the White House after he promised to conduct such an inquiry, according to a newly-released transcript of the call.

Those statements and others in a July 25 phone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky were so concerning that the intelligence community inspector general thought them a possible violation of campaign finance law. In late August, intelligence officials referred the matter to the Justice Department as a possible crime, but prosecutors concluded last week that the conduct was not criminal, according to senior Justice Department officials."

So Barr is implicated for both the crime and the cover up.

[Anonymous]

How long did this call last? I saw the assertion that it was a half hour and that, per the "transcript" there were about 2,000 words which would amount to 66 words per minute. Very slow given that Zelensky is fluent in English. Or it's leaving out quite a bit. (Or the call was not 1/2 hour.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe the White House thought releasing this transcript would help them. This is so bad.

Right.
It's inappropriate for a president to ask another one to meet with their Personal Atty? and Guliani is a personal atty right.

Right? WTF is Guliani doing in this entire situation?! He doesn't work for the government! Why is he getting readouts at all?!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:read the WAPO summary of the phone call, not enough there to impeach. - lib

It's a critical piece of information, where the President asks another country's leader to investigate a political opponent. The other part of the puzzle is Trump's order to withhold aid before the call.
Put the two together and you have an impeachable offense.

Nope.

And, what the president did in relation to an investigation is NO DIFFERENT than what several Senators did - in a letter.
Are we going after them too?

The Senators are not running for the Presidency and Biden is not their direct political rival for the Presidency. Your equivalency is false.

Oh, please. Your reasoning is a stretch.
We can also go back to the whole Russia investigation - an effort by the DNC and Hillary Clinton to seek info from a foreign source to impact the election.

As we have said several times..... the Democrats accuse the opposition of everything they are guilty of.

Exactly.

Show us where Trump says "you'll get your money when you investigate Biden's son".

Until then....Womp Womp.

No need to show anything like that. The threat was implicit by withholding aid.

There doesn't need to be a threat. You can't ask a foreign government to help your political campaign by investigating your opponent, and you REALLY can't do that as president. Holy crap.

It's equivalent to inviting foreign intervention in an election.

No, it is not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

The Democrats have egg on their faces, again.

No quid pro quo.
Trump references the European lack of help.

I think you understand not the meaning of the term.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe the White House thought releasing this transcript would help them. This is so bad.

It wa s their only move. Now they’re trying to spin it the way they did with “no collusion.”

It’s a duck, we watched it quack.

You are missing the point. It was a logical request. There was corruption. Do you have problems with Dem Senators threatening Ukraine about an investigation?

They didn’t and you’re just lying.