Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Offering to allow people to apply for asylum =/= granting them asylum.

See the problem there?

Still doesn't fix the problem that it's false of conservatives to keep saying "Mexico offered the caravans asylum but the caravans refused."
The caravans didn't refuse. They would have been happy to get asylum in Mexico.

Still a broken GOP narrative.

DP. Not a "broken GOP narrative" at all. Many are accepting temporary asylum in Mexico, but their plan is to continue trying to get into the U.S.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/daunted-by-us-border-some-caravan-migrants-seek-asylum-in-mexico--for-now/2018/11/29/57aca384-f32d-11e8-80d0-f7e1948d55f4_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ee0d6357d387

"In Mexicali, the caravan migrants’ decision to stick it out a while longer in Mexico comes with a series of calculations. Some are biding their time, still hoping for a chance at U.S. asylum. Others calculate that U.S. border security measures will eventually loosen enough for them to cross illegally."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

This is a fatal does of fentanyl (2 mg). If the 4 oz. packet of sugar you put in your coffee was filled with fentanyl, it could kill 56,699 people. CBP this year has seized 113 lbs of fentanyl (BETWEEN PORTS OF ENTRY), enough to kill 25.6 million Americans. #SecureOurBorder

https://twitter.com/chiproytx/status/1103694908697792513

Wake up you Libs. We need a secured border!

[Anonymous]

No rational person can deny there is a crisis occurring on our southern border.

CRISIS. It’s a fact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or, jut maybe, it shows how precarious their home country situation is, and how desperate they are to leave, you know, the way your grandparents or great grandparents where when they came to the US?

And there's nothing anyone wants to do to help their home countries deal with the problems, so as to make them more safe and stable so that there would be less people fleeing. The refugees showing up at our border are a symptom, but instead they are treated as the disease, and that approach will never solve anything, because people desperate to flee will continue to do so. It's like there's broken glass on your kitchen floor and you're complaining about how many band-aids you've used and how you need shoes with thicker soles instead of even giving any consideration to sweeping the glass up. Instead we should be looking to help those countries. But we don't even want to, because they are "shitholes" not worthy of further consideration, per brilliant Trump foreign policy.

Uhh did you 2 forget about mexico who wanted to give them residency? They also had the option to travel to closer countries which are just as safe. We have central americas gangs in the US too but then again we also have the almighthy dollar that attracts them. So its greed bringing them here plain and simple.

Nope, that "Mexico offered to take them in" narrative was utter and complete bullshit. Numerous reporters and others tried following up on that and even went with refugees as they tried getting visas and legal asylum in Mexico and saw that they were getting absolutely nowhere with Mexican officials. There were many reports on this, video accounts of their attempts to get papers, et cetera. Mexico was refusing them.

Even if so, why should we except hundreds of thousands of economic dead weight migrants who don't even speak that language that they need to get employed in the US?

Your great grandparents quite likely came to America as economic migrants unable to speak the language.

You missed. I am the first generation of my family living abroad. I came here legally loaded with high potential - high education, clean criminal record, no socially dangerous diseases.
An this is how it suppose to be.
And if my grandparents would be blessed to immigrate to this country they would not have a dime of freebies that ''refugees'' get plenty of these days. They would have survives on their own the best they could - just like millions of others who immigrated back in a day. You missed again.

Wow, you are so full of bogus talking points. Illegal immigrants are ineligible for federal "freebies" and as far as diseases we have a far bigger problem with nutty US citizen antivaxxers than we do with migrants.

DP. Are migrants vaccinated? Doubtful.

South American countries enforce vaccination. I actually reviewed the statistics-it's high 90%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or, jut maybe, it shows how precarious their home country situation is, and how desperate they are to leave, you know, the way your grandparents or great grandparents where when they came to the US?

And there's nothing anyone wants to do to help their home countries deal with the problems, so as to make them more safe and stable so that there would be less people fleeing. The refugees showing up at our border are a symptom, but instead they are treated as the disease, and that approach will never solve anything, because people desperate to flee will continue to do so. It's like there's broken glass on your kitchen floor and you're complaining about how many band-aids you've used and how you need shoes with thicker soles instead of even giving any consideration to sweeping the glass up. Instead we should be looking to help those countries. But we don't even want to, because they are "shitholes" not worthy of further consideration, per brilliant Trump foreign policy.

Uhh did you 2 forget about mexico who wanted to give them residency? They also had the option to travel to closer countries which are just as safe. We have central americas gangs in the US too but then again we also have the almighthy dollar that attracts them. So its greed bringing them here plain and simple.

Nope, that "Mexico offered to take them in" narrative was utter and complete bullshit. Numerous reporters and others tried following up on that and even went with refugees as they tried getting visas and legal asylum in Mexico and saw that they were getting absolutely nowhere with Mexican officials. There were many reports on this, video accounts of their attempts to get papers, et cetera. Mexico was refusing them.

Even if so, why should we except hundreds of thousands of economic dead weight migrants who don't even speak that language that they need to get employed in the US?

Your great grandparents quite likely came to America as economic migrants unable to speak the language.

You missed. I am the first generation of my family living abroad. I came here legally loaded with high potential - high education, clean criminal record, no socially dangerous diseases.
An this is how it suppose to be.
And if my grandparents would be blessed to immigrate to this country they would not have a dime of freebies that ''refugees'' get plenty of these days. They would have survives on their own the best they could - just like millions of others who immigrated back in a day. You missed again.

Wow, you are so full of bogus talking points. Illegal immigrants are ineligible for federal "freebies" and as far as diseases we have a far bigger problem with nutty US citizen antivaxxers than we do with migrants.

DP. Are migrants vaccinated? Doubtful.

South American countries enforce vaccination. I actually reviewed the statistics-it's high 90%.

Evidence?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or, jut maybe, it shows how precarious their home country situation is, and how desperate they are to leave, you know, the way your grandparents or great grandparents where when they came to the US?

And there's nothing anyone wants to do to help their home countries deal with the problems, so as to make them more safe and stable so that there would be less people fleeing. The refugees showing up at our border are a symptom, but instead they are treated as the disease, and that approach will never solve anything, because people desperate to flee will continue to do so. It's like there's broken glass on your kitchen floor and you're complaining about how many band-aids you've used and how you need shoes with thicker soles instead of even giving any consideration to sweeping the glass up. Instead we should be looking to help those countries. But we don't even want to, because they are "shitholes" not worthy of further consideration, per brilliant Trump foreign policy.

Uhh did you 2 forget about mexico who wanted to give them residency? They also had the option to travel to closer countries which are just as safe. We have central americas gangs in the US too but then again we also have the almighthy dollar that attracts them. So its greed bringing them here plain and simple.

Nope, that "Mexico offered to take them in" narrative was utter and complete bullshit. Numerous reporters and others tried following up on that and even went with refugees as they tried getting visas and legal asylum in Mexico and saw that they were getting absolutely nowhere with Mexican officials. There were many reports on this, video accounts of their attempts to get papers, et cetera. Mexico was refusing them.

Even if so, why should we except hundreds of thousands of economic dead weight migrants who don't even speak that language that they need to get employed in the US?

Your great grandparents quite likely came to America as economic migrants unable to speak the language.

You missed. I am the first generation of my family living abroad. I came here legally loaded with high potential - high education, clean criminal record, no socially dangerous diseases.
An this is how it suppose to be.
And if my grandparents would be blessed to immigrate to this country they would not have a dime of freebies that ''refugees'' get plenty of these days. They would have survives on their own the best they could - just like millions of others who immigrated back in a day. You missed again.

Wow, you are so full of bogus talking points. Illegal immigrants are ineligible for federal "freebies" and as far as diseases we have a far bigger problem with nutty US citizen antivaxxers than we do with migrants.

DP. Are migrants vaccinated? Doubtful.

South American countries enforce vaccination. I actually reviewed the statistics-it's high 90%.

.

Probably higher % than anti-science MAGA morons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/05/us/border-crossing-increase.html

Even the NYT admits that the U.S./Mexico border is in crisis due to the overwhelming number of immigrants trying to gain entrance.

"For the fourth time in five months, the number of migrant families crossing the southwest border has broken records, border enforcement authorities said Tuesday, warning that government facilities are full and agents are overwhelmed.
More than 76,000 migrants crossed the border without authorization in February, more than double the levels from the same period last year and approaching the largest numbers seen in any February in the last 12 years.
“The system is well beyond capacity, and remains at the breaking point,” Kevin K. McAleenan, commissioner of Customs and Border Protection, told reporters in announcing the new data.
“These solutions are temporary and this situation is not sustainable,” Mr. McAleenan said. “This is clearly both a border security and a humanitarian crisis.”
Beginning for the first time in October, members of families have come to outpace apprehensions of individual adult migrants. Mr. McAleenan said the authorities believe this is a result of smugglers having effectively communicated across Central America that adults who travel with children will be allowed to enter and stay in the United States.
“Crossing with a child is a guarantee of a speedy release and an indefinite release into the United States,” Mr. McAleenan said.
Brian Hastings, the agency’s chief of law enforcement operations, said that since April 2018, border agents had detected nearly 2,400 cases in which migrants had falsely claimed to be related when they were not, or untruthfully claimed to be younger than 18.
The larger numbers and the surge into more remote areas of the border have drawn new attention to longstanding problems with medical services provided by Customs and Border Protection. Migrant families, in particular, tend to arrive in urgent need of medical attention, the agency said, which has strained resources and drawn agents away from their law enforcement duties.
Last year, the agency referred 12,000 border crossers to emergency rooms for care, each one requiring an agent to wait with them at the hospital and ensure they were immediately returned to federal custody upon release. The rates of hospital referrals are increasing, the agency said, with about 145 agents per day currently acting as hospital escorts. Meanwhile, cocaine seizures for the current fiscal year have already exceeded the previous one, and methamphetamine seizures have also increased, according to the agency, a situation that also is demanding staff resources.


I find it unbelievable, to say the least, that the U.S. is supposed to pay for all of the medical attention these people need. Many of them arrive at the border extremely sick, and then our Border Patrol is blamed when they die in custody - as if we were responsible for them getting sick in the first place. Why isn't Mexico stopping these people and treating them rather than allowing them to continue to our border?

American Government and people are dumb. And Democrats promote illegal crossing by saying no humans are illegal or no need for borders/ICE etc . Democrats are destroying America.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why hasn't the Trump administration hired more Border Patrol agents and immigration officials? Fiddling while Rome burns seems to be this administration's MO.

Why hasn't Congress passed a bill that would allow for more border barriers to discourage easy entry to our country?

There was $25billion in border security funding that was offered just this past December. Trump turned it down. Instead he opted for about $5bil. Not sure how that helps the border situation.

Trump turned it down because Democrats wanted amnesty for DACA and (DAPA ) parents of DACA, the lawbreakers.

Congress wasn’t giving Trump $25billion to go buy candies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why hasn't the Trump administration hired more Border Patrol agents and immigration officials? Fiddling while Rome burns seems to be this administration's MO.

Why hasn't Congress passed a bill that would allow for more border barriers to discourage easy entry to our country?

There was $25billion in border security funding that was offered just this past December. Trump turned it down. Instead he opted for about $5bil. Not sure how that helps the border situation.

Trump turned it down because Democrats wanted amnesty for DACA and (DAPA ) parents of DACA, the lawbreakers.

Congress wasn’t giving Trump $25billion to go buy candies.

If Trump doesn't want to compromise then Trump doesn't get to complain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/05/us/border-crossing-increase.html

Even the NYT admits that the U.S./Mexico border is in crisis due to the overwhelming number of immigrants trying to gain entrance.

"For the fourth time in five months, the number of migrant families crossing the southwest border has broken records, border enforcement authorities said Tuesday, warning that government facilities are full and agents are overwhelmed.
More than 76,000 migrants crossed the border without authorization in February, more than double the levels from the same period last year and approaching the largest numbers seen in any February in the last 12 years.
“The system is well beyond capacity, and remains at the breaking point,” Kevin K. McAleenan, commissioner of Customs and Border Protection, told reporters in announcing the new data.
“These solutions are temporary and this situation is not sustainable,” Mr. McAleenan said. “This is clearly both a border security and a humanitarian crisis.”
Beginning for the first time in October, members of families have come to outpace apprehensions of individual adult migrants. Mr. McAleenan said the authorities believe this is a result of smugglers having effectively communicated across Central America that adults who travel with children will be allowed to enter and stay in the United States.
“Crossing with a child is a guarantee of a speedy release and an indefinite release into the United States,” Mr. McAleenan said.
Brian Hastings, the agency’s chief of law enforcement operations, said that since April 2018, border agents had detected nearly 2,400 cases in which migrants had falsely claimed to be related when they were not, or untruthfully claimed to be younger than 18.
The larger numbers and the surge into more remote areas of the border have drawn new attention to longstanding problems with medical services provided by Customs and Border Protection. Migrant families, in particular, tend to arrive in urgent need of medical attention, the agency said, which has strained resources and drawn agents away from their law enforcement duties.
Last year, the agency referred 12,000 border crossers to emergency rooms for care, each one requiring an agent to wait with them at the hospital and ensure they were immediately returned to federal custody upon release. The rates of hospital referrals are increasing, the agency said, with about 145 agents per day currently acting as hospital escorts. Meanwhile, cocaine seizures for the current fiscal year have already exceeded the previous one, and methamphetamine seizures have also increased, according to the agency, a situation that also is demanding staff resources.


I find it unbelievable, to say the least, that the U.S. is supposed to pay for all of the medical attention these people need. Many of them arrive at the border extremely sick, and then our Border Patrol is blamed when they die in custody - as if we were responsible for them getting sick in the first place. Why isn't Mexico stopping these people and treating them rather than allowing them to continue to our border?

American Government and people are dumb. And Democrats promote illegal crossing by saying no humans are illegal or no need for borders/ICE etc . Democrats are destroying America.

Asylum laws are part of international treaties. The fact is, we HAVE to deal with asylum seekers. The question is, should they be detained, with children separated from their mothers, or is there a better solution? Just saying "America is closed, don't come" isn't a solution and it isn't realistic.

Trump has made a bad, but improving situation a thousand times worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why hasn't the Trump administration hired more Border Patrol agents and immigration officials? Fiddling while Rome burns seems to be this administration's MO.

Why hasn't Congress passed a bill that would allow for more border barriers to discourage easy entry to our country?

Excellent question.

Already answered above. $25 billion that was declined.

Hum. Why was declined? Maybe the bill asked amnesty for 22million illegals, abolish ICE, no borders etc ? I doubt anyone would decline $25billion and a week later beg for $5billion .

[Anonymous]

Nazis referred to Jews as rats.
During the Rwanda genocide, Hutus called Tutsis cockroaches.
Slave owners considered slaves subhuman animals
Trump in a press conference called undocumented immigrants “animals.”

Take note, World of one of the most vile statements by an American President in history.

There is no one left in the GOP with an once of decency to come out publicly and rebuke this utter vileness.......it reflects on all of us as Americans and specifically the GOP Leadership. A day during this Regime as usual of shame and embarrassment for the United States.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or, jut maybe, it shows how precarious their home country situation is, and how desperate they are to leave, you know, the way your grandparents or great grandparents where when they came to the US?

And there's nothing anyone wants to do to help their home countries deal with the problems, so as to make them more safe and stable so that there would be less people fleeing. The refugees showing up at our border are a symptom, but instead they are treated as the disease, and that approach will never solve anything, because people desperate to flee will continue to do so. It's like there's broken glass on your kitchen floor and you're complaining about how many band-aids you've used and how you need shoes with thicker soles instead of even giving any consideration to sweeping the glass up. Instead we should be looking to help those countries. But we don't even want to, because they are "shitholes" not worthy of further consideration, per brilliant Trump foreign policy.

Uhh did you 2 forget about mexico who wanted to give them residency? They also had the option to travel to closer countries which are just as safe. We have central americas gangs in the US too but then again we also have the almighthy dollar that attracts them. So its greed bringing them here plain and simple.

Nope, that "Mexico offered to take them in" narrative was utter and complete bullshit. Numerous reporters and others tried following up on that and even went with refugees as they tried getting visas and legal asylum in Mexico and saw that they were getting absolutely nowhere with Mexican officials. There were many reports on this, video accounts of their attempts to get papers, et cetera. Mexico was refusing them.

Even if so, why should we except hundreds of thousands of economic dead weight migrants who don't even speak that language that they need to get employed in the US?

Your great grandparents quite likely came to America as economic migrants unable to speak the language.

You missed. I am the first generation of my family living abroad. I came here legally loaded with high potential - high education, clean criminal record, no socially dangerous diseases.
An this is how it suppose to be.
And if my grandparents would be blessed to immigrate to this country they would not have a dime of freebies that ''refugees'' get plenty of these days. They would have survives on their own the best they could - just like millions of others who immigrated back in a day. You missed again.

Wow, you are so full of bogus talking points. Illegal immigrants are ineligible for federal "freebies" and as far as diseases we have a far bigger problem with nutty US citizen antivaxxers than we do with migrants.

DP. Are migrants vaccinated? Doubtful.

South American countries enforce vaccination. I actually reviewed the statistics-it's high 90%.

Evidence?

I reviewed the stats months ago. The CDC has them. Vaccinations are taken seriously in Central America. However, similar to the US, if your're poor and uneducated, you often slip through the cracks. So I imagine there are more folks crossing who have not had regular medical visits.


https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/pdf/central-american-health-profile.pdf
"older" data

Primary Care

Compared to the United States and other high-income nations, physician density in El Salvador,
Guatemala, and Honduras is quite low. According to recent data, there are approximately 1.6 physicians
per 1,000 population in El Salvador. Physician population density is markedly lower in both Guatemala
and Honduras, with 0.93 and 0.37 physicians per 1,000 population, respectively [14]. The World Health
Organization estimates that countries with fewer than 23 healthcare workers (including physicians,
nurses, and midwives) per 10,000 population will likely fail to achieve adequate coverage rates for
primary healthcare, as defined by the Millennium Development goals [15]. Therefore, the number of
doctors in El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras is likely insufficient to achieve adequate coverage for
primary healthcare needs.

Access to basic healthcare in Central America largely depends on socioeconomic status and environment
(urban or rural). El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras have worked to improve access and quality of
care, particularly in rural settings. Despite improvements to health services and systems, rural populations
still have difficulty accessing basic health services. In Guatemala, it is estimated that basic health and
nutrition services meet only 54% of the needs of the rural population [16]. Similarly, in Honduras, 88.3%
of the total population receives care from the Ministry of Health. However, the majority of health services
are located in the most developed cities, not easily accessible for rural and indigenous populations [17].
Minors from rural and often underserved regions may also seek care from traditional healers, such as
curanderos or folk healers [18]. Curanderismo exists throughout Latin America, and practitioners treat a
wide range of ailments including illnesses recognized by modern medicine as well as “folk illness”
specific to the local population [18].

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/05/us/border-crossing-increase.html

Even the NYT admits that the U.S./Mexico border is in crisis due to the overwhelming number of immigrants trying to gain entrance.

"For the fourth time in five months, the number of migrant families crossing the southwest border has broken records, border enforcement authorities said Tuesday, warning that government facilities are full and agents are overwhelmed.
More than 76,000 migrants crossed the border without authorization in February, more than double the levels from the same period last year and approaching the largest numbers seen in any February in the last 12 years.
“The system is well beyond capacity, and remains at the breaking point,” Kevin K. McAleenan, commissioner of Customs and Border Protection, told reporters in announcing the new data.
“These solutions are temporary and this situation is not sustainable,” Mr. McAleenan said. “This is clearly both a border security and a humanitarian crisis.”
Beginning for the first time in October, members of families have come to outpace apprehensions of individual adult migrants. Mr. McAleenan said the authorities believe this is a result of smugglers having effectively communicated across Central America that adults who travel with children will be allowed to enter and stay in the United States.
“Crossing with a child is a guarantee of a speedy release and an indefinite release into the United States,” Mr. McAleenan said.
Brian Hastings, the agency’s chief of law enforcement operations, said that since April 2018, border agents had detected nearly 2,400 cases in which migrants had falsely claimed to be related when they were not, or untruthfully claimed to be younger than 18.
The larger numbers and the surge into more remote areas of the border have drawn new attention to longstanding problems with medical services provided by Customs and Border Protection. Migrant families, in particular, tend to arrive in urgent need of medical attention, the agency said, which has strained resources and drawn agents away from their law enforcement duties.
Last year, the agency referred 12,000 border crossers to emergency rooms for care, each one requiring an agent to wait with them at the hospital and ensure they were immediately returned to federal custody upon release. The rates of hospital referrals are increasing, the agency said, with about 145 agents per day currently acting as hospital escorts. Meanwhile, cocaine seizures for the current fiscal year have already exceeded the previous one, and methamphetamine seizures have also increased, according to the agency, a situation that also is demanding staff resources.


I find it unbelievable, to say the least, that the U.S. is supposed to pay for all of the medical attention these people need. Many of them arrive at the border extremely sick, and then our Border Patrol is blamed when they die in custody - as if we were responsible for them getting sick in the first place. Why isn't Mexico stopping these people and treating them rather than allowing them to continue to our border?

American Government and people are dumb. And Democrats promote illegal crossing by saying no humans are illegal or no need for borders/ICE etc . Democrats are destroying America.

Asylum laws are part of international treaties. The fact is, we HAVE to deal with asylum seekers. The question is, should they be detained, with children separated from their mothers, or is there a better solution? Just saying "America is closed, don't come" isn't a solution and it isn't realistic.

Trump has made a bad, but improving situation a thousand times worse.

Then change the Asylum law . I’m sure it is not easy but Americans need to think family first as in America first. No one on earth throws their families under the bus and go save someone who is walking on the sidewalk. The family separation has been this way since I immigrated 25 years ago and I’m sure it was that way before that time. Or was there Airbnb for 5 plus years the families were waiting for their court dates?

“Is there a better solution “? Don’t let asylum seekers in the country until asylum is granted. That way no family separation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or, jut maybe, it shows how precarious their home country situation is, and how desperate they are to leave, you know, the way your grandparents or great grandparents where when they came to the US?

Why is that so many fail to meet the requirements for asylum? If you want to let more millions in, do you really still expect to provide government programs to cover all of their needs? How exactly will that work?

Asylum is rightly a very narrow definition and should remain that way

But international law requires that we let everyone make their case, so they are coming. What we really need is more detention facilities and a rapid adjudication system. That will be more effective and more humane deterrent than a wall.

No, it doesn't. There has to be a documented knowledge of a military conflict or political/sex minority/religion minority oppression BEFORE asylum seekers are let in. That's how foreign countries' citizens get asylum quotas.
Otherwise the whole world will be here claiming asylum and living in the US until their case is processed.

This is correct.