New curriculum selection process delayed— new RFP must be issues now

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Anonymous wrote:Discovery Ed is just another high margin, bad content experiment in computer digital teaching for K-5. Moves farther and farther away from "learning by doing" or practicing anything or from hand/memory learning and consists of CONSTANT group and individual SCREENTIME.

It's practically online teaching. terrible for children.


Sounds we're at very real risk of having this shoved down our throats. At the BOE meeting where the JHU report was presented there was still chatter about digital divide and getting low income kids devices. This is the opposite of what I'm looking for as a parent.

I'm not a complete luddite, I know videos can be compelling to kids. But a video is not reference material. How do you get back to that one point you realize you didn't catch without re-watching an entire video. Or worse watching several to find the one that had the point. By using a physical book, there's a memory of where key points are, and past lessons aren't necessarily disposed of. (With the math packets, they are literally disposed of, DC's teacher collects them for recycling when handing out the next one. So no one is under the illusion that they'll need that knowledge again.)

Online adaptive lessons have their place, too. But MCPS doesn't need to buy that with the curriculum, or at the very least they shouldn't buy a curriculum solely for digital content. And, I think they have their limitations, because they take ownership away from the student. As soon as answers are correct the material gets more difficult, so the student isn't as aware of individual concepts in isolation. There's also the push to call a problem "rich" simply because it asks a student to do three things at once. Yes, that makes a question more difficult, but is it better? For me at least, math is about cutting through the noise and extracting a key concept even if that's something simple.

For example, there will be a questions like, "what is the sum of the divisors of 14?" Which is more difficult than, "find a divisor of 14." Or even, "find all the divisors of 14." But is it a better question? It's an easier question to program, because there are no formatting issues, and there is a single integer answer. But if the lesson is divisors, summing them is just busy work and a distraction, unless this is leading to a discussion of the significance of such a sum. Maybe on this point, I am a luddite, but I can't help but notice how often questions are chosen to suit the technology, and not vice versa.


Opposite of what we want as well. Opposite of what top privates do and other (truly) top public school districts. Overuse of tech/screens + underuse of real teaching will be a deal-breaker for us. I don't like that it is 20 minutes * 3 times in K-2 already. And such low quality games.


That is a HUGE underestimation IME.

My K kid is on a Chromebook easily for an hour daily. The Chromebook station is always used for Math/Reading time when the kids rotate around and they have extra Chromebook time regularly. That does not even include the time on the Promethean Boards.
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what age kid gets a multi-step math and reading comprehension question like this one?!? talk about needing patience and not fall for trick answers.

what is the sum of the divisors of 14?" Which is more difficult than, "find a divisor of 14." Or even, "find all the divisors of 14."

summation of 1, 14, 2, 7
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Anonymous wrote:what age kid gets a multi-step math and reading comprehension question like this one?!? talk about needing patience and not fall for trick answers.

what is the sum of the divisors of 14?" Which is more difficult than, "find a divisor of 14." Or even, "find all the divisors of 14."

summation of 1, 14, 2, 7


Don't recall where I saw that, how about this MCPS memo explaining why PARCC has higher quality questions:
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/schools/greatsenecacreekes/News/H5%20Curriculum_2.0_Key_Facts_Math.pdf
I think the crayon box problem is higher quality than the field trip one. The only way to solve the PARCC question is trial and error and attention to the exact wording about whether teachers are included in totals.
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yeah, trial and error permutations on scratch paper.
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Anonymous wrote:yeah, trial and error permutations on scratch paper.


If you spend any time distracted by what would be an optimal solution is, well too bad for you, that wasn't what you were asked. It's a question best solved by spread sheet since there's no insight that would make it less work, and lots of ways to screw up and get nothing for the effort.

But common core compliant software is full of this dreck, definitely buyer beware.
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I used matrix algebra to solve. Just plot out the three variables. Pearson’s is so cool w their Parcc.

When is MCPS dumping Parcc again? I know most other public districts already have...
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Anonymous wrote:I used matrix algebra to solve. Just plot out the three variables. Pearson’s is so cool w their Parcc.

When is MCPS dumping Parcc again?
I know most other public districts already have...


It's not an MCPS decision. It's a State of Maryland decision. Write to the governor.
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Not soon enough. It’s a horrible test for all. Thank goodness.

When is it happening?
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Screen time helps teachers to manage 30 kids. That's one way to keep cost down for MCPS.
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Anonymous wrote:Screen time helps teachers to manage 30 kids. That's one way to keep cost down for MCPS.


But what did they do before introducing screen time?
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Anonymous wrote:Heads should roll for this. I'm not paying high ass taxes for people to glide by from one high salary to he next. There needs to be a requirement that one should live in the county in order to take a job here. I wish there was also requirement for certain BOE and MCPS central office positions one must have children in the school system. This would ensure people would work harder and be honest because they have a risk factor and skin in the game.


+ million times. Incentive drives action in all humans.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Screen time helps teachers to manage 30 kids. That's one way to keep cost down for MCPS.


But what did they do before introducing screen time?


Worksheets.
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Anonymous wrote:I used matrix algebra to solve. Just plot out the three variables. Pearson’s is so cool w their Parcc.

When is MCPS dumping Parcc again? I know most other public districts already have...



You mean so you could get the seat totals as a dot product?

I converted everything to car equivalents. Car= 1 car, bus=4 cars, van= 3 cars and change. You just need the three largest car counts. I mean, that's also a matrix if you like...

Where is this PARCC rumor coming from?
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MAtrix algebra
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Screen time helps teachers to manage 30 kids. That's one way to keep cost down for MCPS.


But what did they do before introducing screen time?


Worksheets.


Or reading independently. There are alternatives to screen time that are better from an educational standpoint.
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