MoCo is diverse, for sure, but MCPS schools are not

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Let's please have the county pay for more diversity by advertising incentives for folk to move to our great county from other places. Once they are here, let's heavily subsidize them to ensure they are happy and bring everyone they know. MoCo is a kind and gracious place, and can look after the U.S.'s unemployed and under-employed because we have great revenues from our over achieving population.

Then for the people who are working hard and paying taxes - either income taxes or very high property taxes (driven by their school districts), let's make MoCo even less appealing by telling them we are redrawing school boundaries so their children have to go to less-well performing schools, or so that they pay even more to go to private schools. This way, eventually all high tax payers will leave, and we can all be happy.

+1

Everybody pays taxes.

As for working hard -- construction workers, landscape workers, building cleaners, and dish washers work a lot harder than I do, and they probably work a lot harder than you do, too.

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This country can do exactly what most other countries do and I did when I wanted to move: apply for a visa, wait, do the interview, earn a visa.

Do you really think the UK, Germany, Brazil, Canada, Singapore grant citizenship and full benefits to a 10 day old child who was born within their borders from non-national parents? Nope. Not even close. In most countries you are what your parents are until you formally apply.

Yes, actually. Brazil has birthright citizenship. Canada has birthright citizenship. Germany changed its citizenship laws, because they had a lot of people who were born and raised in Germany who were not allowed to be German, and that didn't work out so well. And why we should model ourselves after Singapore, of all places, is a question I really can't answer. There are more people just in Maryland than in all of Singapore. Also, it's legal to sell chewing gum in Maryland.

The US and Canada are the only two developed nations in the world that have birthright citizenship, and I'd wager a guess that Canada wouldn't if they had someone else on their southern border.

They have between 35K and 120K illegal immigrants and the majority of Canadians want them deported: http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=f86690ed-a2ed-447c-8be8-21ba5a3dd922

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The US and Canada are the only two developed nations in the world that have birthright citizenship, and I'd wager a guess that Canada wouldn't if they had someone else on their southern border.

They have between 35K and 120K illegal immigrants and the majority of Canadians want them deported: http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=f86690ed-a2ed-447c-8be8-21ba5a3dd922

So what? If everybody else jumped off the bridge, would you jump off the bridge too?

Another useful fact: the US is the only developed nation in the world that fought a civil war over slavery, which led to the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution, which begins:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.

I like the 14th Amendment. I think it's a good one.

A final useful fact: MCPS can't amend the US Constitution.

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Actually, more true facts:

The US is the only developed nation in the world without universal health coverage.

The US is the only developed nation in the world without paid maternity leave.

the US is the only developed nation in the world that hasn't ratified the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child.

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NP. That would be wonderful. No gangs, no ESL, half of FARMS, no printing everything in Spanish too, no teacher disruptions from kids that don't understand English, no weekend backpacks to fill with food. Families that actually pay taxes and money that actually goes towards school than social services. One could only dream.

Yup. MCPS was a paradise before the Spanish-speaking immigrants came. No poor kids. No segregation. No, wait...

Yes, let's wait and see what a hellhole MoCo and mcps is in 10 years. When all the money is gone. Maybe we can recreate Guatemala right here.

[Anonymous]

Congrats immigration pp's. You succeeded in entirely derailing the thread. Nice job.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Let's please have the county pay for more diversity by advertising incentives for folk to move to our great county from other places. Once they are here, let's heavily subsidize them to ensure they are happy and bring everyone they know. MoCo is a kind and gracious place, and can look after the U.S.'s unemployed and under-employed because we have great revenues from our over achieving population.

Then for the people who are working hard and paying taxes - either income taxes or very high property taxes (driven by their school districts), let's make MoCo even less appealing by telling them we are redrawing school boundaries so their children have to go to less-well performing schools, or so that they pay even more to go to private schools. This way, eventually all high tax payers will leave, and we can all be happy.

+1

Everybody pays taxes.

As for working hard -- construction workers, landscape workers, building cleaners, and dish washers work a lot harder than I do, and they probably work a lot harder than you do, too.

Everybody pays taxes???? LOL.

Seriously, pp you are delusional.

[Anonymous]

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Everybody pays taxes???? LOL.

Seriously, pp you are delusional.

Please explain to me how a person can function in society without paying any taxes. Everybody would love to know this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

NP. That would be wonderful. No gangs, no ESL, half of FARMS, no printing everything in Spanish too, no teacher disruptions from kids that don't understand English, no weekend backpacks to fill with food. Families that actually pay taxes and money that actually goes towards school than social services. One could only dream.

Yup. MCPS was a paradise before the Spanish-speaking immigrants came. No poor kids. No segregation. No, wait...

Yes, let's wait and see what a hellhole MoCo and mcps is in 10 years. When all the money is gone. Maybe we can recreate Guatemala right here.

Here's a thought - Perhaps MCPS could downsize the Central Office and get rid of a few levels of bureaucracy to save money.

MCPS to teach who is here so I think this is the wrong thread to discuss immigration issues.

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Everybody pays taxes???? LOL.

Seriously, pp you are delusional.

Please explain to me how a person can function in society without paying any taxes. Everybody would love to know this.

Are you talking sales tax? Please. Most of illegals send their money home. What little they spend here is taxes by a few small perentage. No income, no state, no federal, no home real estate taxes. So who then pays for these 11+ million undocumented workers. We all know the upper class isn't taxed enough. It all falls back on the ever-shrinking middle class

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I am so tired of people bitching about taxes. That is all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Congrats immigration pp's. You succeeded in entirely derailing the thread. Nice job.

Seriously. Reading this forum, you'd think that the only thing we need to do to improve everything in MoCo and MCPS is to deport people.

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Anonymous wrote:Congrats immigration pp's. You succeeded in entirely derailing the thread. Nice job.

Seriously. Reading this forum, you'd think that the only thing we need to do to improve everything in MoCo and MCPS is to deport people.

It would be a great start that is for sure. How much money do you think these millions of illegal immigrants from any country cost? Countries don't have open borders or amnesty for reasons. There are federal laws in place that the now current liberal government plays with for political pawns. It is a game both parties play - paid for by the middle class.

[Anonymous]

I agree that illegal immigration is not helpful for MoCo but the thread was focused for almost 20 pages on things that might be politically tough but are still within Moco's power to do. There is nothing the county can actually do about the impacts of illegal immigration though unfortunately.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree that illegal immigration is not helpful for MoCo but the thread was focused for almost 20 pages on things that might be politically tough but are still within Moco's power to do. There is nothing the county can actually do about the impacts of illegal immigration though unfortunately.

And then the "IT'S ALL THE ILLEGALS' FAULT!!!!" people found it.