Did I miss the thread on the current revolution going on to free Iran?

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Anonymous wrote:Israel cares about the women, children, and the LGBT. Israel’s answer is to bomb the country to smithereens to save them from their evil government.

They also care about American lives too. Israel is happy to let them die if it means regime change.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel cares about the women, children, and the LGBT. Israel’s answer is to bomb the country to smithereens to save them from their evil government.

They also care about American lives too. Israel is happy to let them die if it means regime change.

Israel quite rightly cares about Israeli lives. Those who attack it find their lives forfeit, or have you not noticed? Regime change in Iran is to the advantage of every country which opposes an unstable Middle East. Israel is one, but so is every other in the region. The only pro-Iranian regime advocates are those who are desperate for continued funding for Palestinian terrorism; with the regime gone, the Palestinian terror apparatus will be extinguished for want of financial support. Sounds good, let's hope it plays out like that.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel cares about the women, children, and the LGBT. Israel’s answer is to bomb the country to smithereens to save them from their evil government.

They also care about American lives too. Israel is happy to let them die if it means regime change.

Israel quite rightly cares about Israeli lives. Those who attack it find their lives forfeit, or have you not noticed? Regime change in Iran is to the advantage of every country which opposes an unstable Middle East. Israel is one, but so is every other in the region. The only pro-Iranian regime advocates are those who are desperate for continued funding for Palestinian terrorism; with the regime gone, the Palestinian terror apparatus will be extinguished for want of financial support. Sounds good, let's hope it plays out like that.

Did you mean "jewish" there? Israel certainly doesn't care about non-jewish Israelis as much, if at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel cares about the women, children, and the LGBT. Israel’s answer is to bomb the country to smithereens to save them from their evil government.

They also care about American lives too. Israel is happy to let them die if it means regime change.

Israel quite rightly cares about Israeli lives. Those who attack it find their lives forfeit, or have you not noticed? Regime change in Iran is to the advantage of every country which opposes an unstable Middle East. Israel is one, but so is every other in the region. The only pro-Iranian regime advocates are those who are desperate for continued funding for Palestinian terrorism; with the regime gone, the Palestinian terror apparatus will be extinguished for want of financial support. Sounds good, let's hope it plays out like that.

Israelis said the same thing about Saddam Hussein.

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Anonymous wrote:What will Israel do? Here is an interesting thought, this revolution is interesting in that it is an internal uprising with limited outside agitators (unlike Syria that started domestically and was usurped by ISIS causing the domestic revolt to quickly die) because of this, no foreign powers have the ability to influence who will take the reigns if the current regime is toppled. Will Israel act to quash the revolution? If so what does that mean to supporters of Israel?

There's zero reason to think Israel would take action against internal Iranian dissent against the Iranian regime. The proposition is simply without any rational basis. The collapse of the Iranian regime can only be good news for the entire region, including Israel, as it is unlikely to be replaced with anything worse, and will more probably be replaced by a government less interested in supporting Palestinian terror and in exporting Islamist revolution.

The fall of the current Iranian government will be welcomed by everyone except the Palestinians, who are and have been dependent upon it to fund and support their terror activities. Without terror planning, preparation, and execution to occupy them, the Palestinians will then have the opportunity to become accustomed to life in their new 50% smaller Gaza they bought for themselves in return for Oct. 7.

So basically you're saying once Iran is overthrown then Israel can continue to commit genocide without any pushback.

No wonder Israeli supporters are so desperately seeking regime so they can finally eliminate Gazans once and for all.

I’m not PP nor a supporter of Israel but you do realize that you just admitted you want the Iranian people to continue to suffer under the absolute brutality of the regime so that the regime can continue to fund Gaza?

That’s a morally wrong take. You are wholly on the wrong side of both history and ethics.

Being on the side of killers of women and children has never been the right position in history. Sorry.

So then you support the destruction of the Iranian regime? Yes or no?

If you don’t support the killing of women and children, you cannot support the Ayatollah. However, it sounds like you want the regime to stay in power.

Please clarify.

Which women and children has the Ayatollah killed? That man isn’t even the president of Iran. The actual president of Iran Massoud Pezekhian is a heart surgeon who wants peace and a relationship with the US and with Israel. Are we forgetting that? Zeroing in on some firebrand religious cleric like the ayatollah who is 86 with one foot already in the grave is bizarre. Also, one of the ayatollah’s granddaughters weddings went viral because she was certainly not in a hijab or cloak but a western style cleavage cut dress.

Iran is the same country that does free gender reassignment surgery for trans. They have IVF and abortion. This idea that it’s some ultra conservative Islamic society isn’t true at all.

Islam like Judaism has hundreds and hundreds of rules and varying interpretations by men (some extreme, some moderate, some liberal) but people do what they want at the end of the day.

The idea that we should invade Iran and kill a population of 90 million, bankrupt global oil economies, and lose strategic ports because of Khomenei screaming death to America and Israel is insane. One firebrand isn’t worth world war 3 . Ayatollah isn’t Hitler

Man, the Iranian propagandists are out in force.

You cannot be serious in asking us to believe the government of Iran is not executing women and children, not after what we’ve seen them do to women and girls that dared not wear a hijab. Be for real, propagandist.

Israel projects what they do on to others. The ones killing women and children aren’t Iran

You are a shockingly bad propagandist. Try to gain some skills, please. This is not actually a debated fact, so you just look like an ignorant fool propping up a vicious government.

Why don't Israelis ever post any cites or sites?

Because they’ve been able to just make things up for decades, and anyone questioning their ridiculous claims gets thrown in jail.

I’m just here to watch the Iranian propagandists say with a straight face that the Iranian government doesn’t execute women. The audacity is notable.

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Or homosexuals.

Irony being that Israel has killed more LGBT people in the Middle East than any other country

Of course. And Muslims tolerate them, right?

https://jweekly.com/2013/06/14/new-survey-taints-israels-gay-friendly-image/

Ben Gvir is in the Israeli cabinet. He’s said some very homophobic things even calling pride parades worse than Hamas for Israel. Oh yes. Israel has a very right wing element as well that also has power. Does that mean they should also be killed because of their beliefs?

Israel is throwing all the excuses out in the air (LGBT, women’s rights!) when they have their own bigots in government too (some that are so extreme they don’t believe in shaking hands with women). Netanyahu is going to let this wing slowly and slowly mold Israel into a Right wing religious monarchy so he can consolidate power for another few decades. Netanyahu will be as old as the Ayatollah holding on to power in Israel and making his people suffer.

[Anonymous]

I don't think we should be fighting wars or doing regime change on behalf of Israel. Israel's wars are not America's wars. We have our own problems that we need to worry about.

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Gulf Arabs believe that the IRGC has successfully de-escalated confrontation with Trump by making a series of offers to Steve Witkoff. The offers are apparently all of Iranian real estate projects. The Iranian-Trump deal was apparently brokered by the Russians.

https://www.ft.com/content/df0c0833-59f6-45d6-a74f-008b46756e72

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think we should be fighting wars or doing regime change on behalf of Israel. Israel's wars are not America's wars. We have our own problems that we need to worry about.

Actually, Israel's wars are aligned with U.S. interests, which is why the U.S. supports Israel and not Iran.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think we should be fighting wars or doing regime change on behalf of Israel. Israel's wars are not America's wars. We have our own problems that we need to worry about.

Actually, Israel's wars are aligned with U.S. interests, which is why the U.S. supports Israel and not Iran.

lol wow you are embarrassing yourself. Israelis hate the US and have a long term strategy to bleed the US dry than abandonment. The US shares no tactical or strategic interests with Israel. The Israelis actively work against US interests and are the key problem to peace and prosperity in the region.

Oh look who is up next for the ISraelis.

The eighth, most dangerous front: How Turkey went from ally to strategic threat

https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-880969


The Israelis are some lazy they just replace Iraq and Iran with Turkey in their propaganda.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think we should be fighting wars or doing regime change on behalf of Israel. Israel's wars are not America's wars. We have our own problems that we need to worry about.

Actually, Israel's wars are aligned with U.S. interests, which is why the U.S. supports Israel and not Iran.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think we should be fighting wars or doing regime change on behalf of Israel. Israel's wars are not America's wars. We have our own problems that we need to worry about.

Actually, Israel's wars are aligned with U.S. interests, which is why the U.S. supports Israel and not Iran.

The U.S. interest is not more war. It’s not in Israel’s interest either but Netanyahu is a criminal and a war monger. Wanted in his own national court and international court

[Anonymous]

Nobody cares about genocide and apartheid in Iran as cannot blame Jews, the Rotschilds, space lasers, etc. for it. We're up with the ayatollahs, down with the people kind of liberals.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think we should be fighting wars or doing regime change on behalf of Israel. Israel's wars are not America's wars. We have our own problems that we need to worry about.

Actually, Israel's wars are aligned with U.S. interests, which is why the U.S. supports Israel and not Iran.

The U.S. interest is not more war. It’s not in Israel’s interest either but Netanyahu is a criminal and a war monger. Wanted in his own national court and international court

U.S. interests include support for democratic governments, which is not something found in Iran, Gaza, or many other ME areas, but is a feature of Israel political structure. Those interests further include the suppression of Islamist terror, another feature of Iran and Gaza, and sometime Syria and Lebanon. It's inarguable that Israel shares that objective with the U.S. Clearly, Israel and the U.S. are closely aligned with regard to their foreign policies and their democratic values.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think we should be fighting wars or doing regime change on behalf of Israel. Israel's wars are not America's wars. We have our own problems that we need to worry about.

Actually, Israel's wars are aligned with U.S. interests, which is why the U.S. supports Israel and not Iran.

The U.S. interest is not more war. It’s not in Israel’s interest either but Netanyahu is a criminal and a war monger. Wanted in his own national court and international court

U.S. interests include support for democratic governments, which is not something found in Iran, Gaza, or many other ME areas, but is a feature of Israel political structure. Those interests further include the suppression of Islamist terror, another feature of Iran and Gaza, and sometime Syria and Lebanon. It's inarguable that Israel shares that objective with the U.S. Clearly, Israel and the U.S. are closely aligned with regard to their foreign policies and their democratic values.

Sorry but apartheid isn't democracy. But you're right, the US and Israel are aligned in foreign policy with respect to genocide and exploiting the global south.

[Anonymous]

Apparently Trump requested Danish troops for operation in Iran. They have refused because they do not trust the US military or government. Yipes!