Sign Petition Asking for Boundaries Now, Programs Later

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Anonymous wrote:Idk it sounds like Blair, Northwood, and Einstein just want more APs at their home schools. Like that’s it. Forget all this busing around and lotterying and programs. More APs than the baseline from what is presently proposed. This does run into the question of demand, and I would agree that if there isn’t demand you shouldn’t offer the course. Idk maybe just stick all the money into dedicated bus service for MC for when the classes don’t have enough demand.

What is the "baseline"? All they are saying is every school should offer calculus. What calculus? Is it AP? If so AB and BC or just BC. And is the baseline all in person or are they going to make some classes virtual?

Baseline that they’ve described is Calc BC. I have only ever heard vague suggestions of doing something virtual. I wouldn’t oppose it for individual classes if that’s the only thing that can happen, but virtual is by no means ideal.

They are not bringing back virtual. They've been clear otherwise, the virtual school families that. Offering multiple post BC classes at some schools and not others is not equity. Why should some schools get multiple advanced math classes, and other schools max out at BC? The lack of stem and not having access to Wheaton and Blair is a huge issue for us. We made the mistake with our first child, but we will not do that again.

MCPS also doesn't allow you to privately pay for virtual or private classes and accept them as credit. There is a way to do it for some AP classes but nothing outside of AP or beyond. Nor do they allow for independent study.

What do you mean not having access to Blair? Blair and Einstein (assuming you are an Einstein parent) are both in region 1. The chances of an Einstein-zoned student going to Blair are probably higher than they are now with the magnet spots being limited to Region 1 kids. Do you mean going to Blair via the DCC "choice" process? Because I was under the impression that because Blair is 15% over-capacity, very few kids were able to lottery into Blair that way.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone just make a countywide petition already calling to push back the program analysis a year and gather more community feedback on it, so we can stop arguing about why a petition written to maximize the number of DCC signers doesn't talk much about and resonate with people elsewhere in the county?

Nobody is stopping you from doing this except you.

I do not have the time to invest in making and promoting a countywide petition when I and everyone I know is in the DCC area and this current petition works fine for us so a new one would feel redundant to most people in my personal networks. (I also don't have a detailed enough understanding of the specific ways schools in other parts of the county will be harmed by rushing the current plans through, just the more general reasons that affect all of us-- although maybe it's fine for the countywide petition to just be very simple and general regarding the need to slow down and get community input before finalizing anything, maybe copying some of the language from the MCCPTA resolution?)

I can see that a countywide one is needed, and will help spread the word if one is created, but I'm not the one to write it and advance it. (But all these people who keep saying "I support pausing the program analysis but don't want to sign this petition because it's too DCC-focused" seem like the perfect people to do it?)

I think it's fine for a countywide petition to be really simple and mirror the MCCPTA language. But I do think it would be best for someone outside the DCC to start it, who has connections to non-DCC PTAs, listservs, Facebook groups, etc where they can share it.

This regional model impacts the DCC the most. The DCC schools are not getting more funding, and with the reduction in students, serious cuts will have to be made. These schools are already lacking in course offerings, so what can be cut? To place "magnets" at Northwood or Einstein for the arts makes no sense when there is no additional funding for staff. They cannot offer magnet-level music or theater without additional teaching staff and funding. How is all of this going to work?

It doesn't matter who does the petition. Reality is none of the matters as Taylor, central office and the BOE are going through with this model regardless of community feedback. There will be a lot of flight from the DCC schools (including us), and that will leave these schools in even worse shape if the wealthier, smarter students/families leave. There is very little at our home school and when that is reduced, it puts families in an impossible situation when their kids needs don't get met.

When you say it affects DCC “the most,” how do you know and what are your metrics? Have you pills or talked to anyone not in region 1? See, you can make the plea to ditch the regions with using the language that you are uniquely hurt.

Folks have explained this at length but you choose not to listen.

Clearly, you don't want DCC folks to speak out about the obvious negative impacts of these proposals on the DCC that don't impact the other schools in the Woodward study. Sorry, not sorry.

Straw man. A pious one this time. Speak out but try not to alienate people on your side.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone just make a countywide petition already calling to push back the program analysis a year and gather more community feedback on it, so we can stop arguing about why a petition written to maximize the number of DCC signers doesn't talk much about and resonate with people elsewhere in the county?

Nobody is stopping you from doing this except you.

I do not have the time to invest in making and promoting a countywide petition when I and everyone I know is in the DCC area and this current petition works fine for us so a new one would feel redundant to most people in my personal networks. (I also don't have a detailed enough understanding of the specific ways schools in other parts of the county will be harmed by rushing the current plans through, just the more general reasons that affect all of us-- although maybe it's fine for the countywide petition to just be very simple and general regarding the need to slow down and get community input before finalizing anything, maybe copying some of the language from the MCCPTA resolution?)

I can see that a countywide one is needed, and will help spread the word if one is created, but I'm not the one to write it and advance it. (But all these people who keep saying "I support pausing the program analysis but don't want to sign this petition because it's too DCC-focused" seem like the perfect people to do it?)

I think it's fine for a countywide petition to be really simple and mirror the MCCPTA language. But I do think it would be best for someone outside the DCC to start it, who has connections to non-DCC PTAs, listservs, Facebook groups, etc where they can share it.

This regional model impacts the DCC the most. The DCC schools are not getting more funding, and with the reduction in students, serious cuts will have to be made. These schools are already lacking in course offerings, so what can be cut? To place "magnets" at Northwood or Einstein for the arts makes no sense when there is no additional funding for staff. They cannot offer magnet-level music or theater without additional teaching staff and funding. How is all of this going to work?

It doesn't matter who does the petition. Reality is none of the matters as Taylor, central office and the BOE are going through with this model regardless of community feedback. There will be a lot of flight from the DCC schools (including us), and that will leave these schools in even worse shape if the wealthier, smarter students/families leave. There is very little at our home school and when that is reduced, it puts families in an impossible situation when their kids needs don't get met.

Wait, so the wealthier, smarter Whitman families are icky but the wealthier, smarter DCC families are the only thing keeping their schools from total collapse. Mmmkay.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone just make a countywide petition already calling to push back the program analysis a year and gather more community feedback on it, so we can stop arguing about why a petition written to maximize the number of DCC signers doesn't talk much about and resonate with people elsewhere in the county?

Nobody is stopping you from doing this except you.

I do not have the time to invest in making and promoting a countywide petition when I and everyone I know is in the DCC area and this current petition works fine for us so a new one would feel redundant to most people in my personal networks. (I also don't have a detailed enough understanding of the specific ways schools in other parts of the county will be harmed by rushing the current plans through, just the more general reasons that affect all of us-- although maybe it's fine for the countywide petition to just be very simple and general regarding the need to slow down and get community input before finalizing anything, maybe copying some of the language from the MCCPTA resolution?)

I can see that a countywide one is needed, and will help spread the word if one is created, but I'm not the one to write it and advance it. (But all these people who keep saying "I support pausing the program analysis but don't want to sign this petition because it's too DCC-focused" seem like the perfect people to do it?)

I think it's fine for a countywide petition to be really simple and mirror the MCCPTA language. But I do think it would be best for someone outside the DCC to start it, who has connections to non-DCC PTAs, listservs, Facebook groups, etc where they can share it.

This regional model impacts the DCC the most. The DCC schools are not getting more funding, and with the reduction in students, serious cuts will have to be made. These schools are already lacking in course offerings, so what can be cut? To place "magnets" at Northwood or Einstein for the arts makes no sense when there is no additional funding for staff. They cannot offer magnet-level music or theater without additional teaching staff and funding. How is all of this going to work?

It doesn't matter who does the petition. Reality is none of the matters as Taylor, central office and the BOE are going through with this model regardless of community feedback. There will be a lot of flight from the DCC schools (including us), and that will leave these schools in even worse shape if the wealthier, smarter students/families leave. There is very little at our home school and when that is reduced, it puts families in an impossible situation when their kids needs don't get met.

When you say it affects DCC “the most,” how do you know and what are your metrics? Have you pills or talked to anyone not in region 1? See, you can make the plea to ditch the regions with using the language that you are uniquely hurt.

Folks have explained this at length but you choose not to listen.

Clearly, you don't want DCC folks to speak out about the obvious negative impacts of these proposals on the DCC that don't impact the other schools in the Woodward study. Sorry, not sorry.

Straw man. A pious one this time. Speak out but try not to alienate people on your side.

The folks that are being "alienated" were never on the side of the DCC, they just want us to STFU

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone just make a countywide petition already calling to push back the program analysis a year and gather more community feedback on it, so we can stop arguing about why a petition written to maximize the number of DCC signers doesn't talk much about and resonate with people elsewhere in the county?

Nobody is stopping you from doing this except you.

I do not have the time to invest in making and promoting a countywide petition when I and everyone I know is in the DCC area and this current petition works fine for us so a new one would feel redundant to most people in my personal networks. (I also don't have a detailed enough understanding of the specific ways schools in other parts of the county will be harmed by rushing the current plans through, just the more general reasons that affect all of us-- although maybe it's fine for the countywide petition to just be very simple and general regarding the need to slow down and get community input before finalizing anything, maybe copying some of the language from the MCCPTA resolution?)

I can see that a countywide one is needed, and will help spread the word if one is created, but I'm not the one to write it and advance it. (But all these people who keep saying "I support pausing the program analysis but don't want to sign this petition because it's too DCC-focused" seem like the perfect people to do it?)

I think it's fine for a countywide petition to be really simple and mirror the MCCPTA language. But I do think it would be best for someone outside the DCC to start it, who has connections to non-DCC PTAs, listservs, Facebook groups, etc where they can share it.

This regional model impacts the DCC the most. The DCC schools are not getting more funding, and with the reduction in students, serious cuts will have to be made. These schools are already lacking in course offerings, so what can be cut? To place "magnets" at Northwood or Einstein for the arts makes no sense when there is no additional funding for staff. They cannot offer magnet-level music or theater without additional teaching staff and funding. How is all of this going to work?

It doesn't matter who does the petition. Reality is none of the matters as Taylor, central office and the BOE are going through with this model regardless of community feedback. There will be a lot of flight from the DCC schools (including us), and that will leave these schools in even worse shape if the wealthier, smarter students/families leave. There is very little at our home school and when that is reduced, it puts families in an impossible situation when their kids needs don't get met.

Wait, so the wealthier, smarter Whitman families are icky but the wealthier, smarter DCC families are the only thing keeping their schools from total collapse. Mmmkay.

DP

Are you saying it's okay to have segregated schools on the east side of the county that only serve Black and Brown low income families that have no choice but to attend those schools? Is there not enough data for you to say that's a bad thing?

I see what you are doing. You correctly identified that the DCC schools are diverse and that different groups within those schools have different needs. Now you are trying to pit those groups against each other. How very White supremacist of you.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone just make a countywide petition already calling to push back the program analysis a year and gather more community feedback on it, so we can stop arguing about why a petition written to maximize the number of DCC signers doesn't talk much about and resonate with people elsewhere in the county?

Nobody is stopping you from doing this except you.

I do not have the time to invest in making and promoting a countywide petition when I and everyone I know is in the DCC area and this current petition works fine for us so a new one would feel redundant to most people in my personal networks. (I also don't have a detailed enough understanding of the specific ways schools in other parts of the county will be harmed by rushing the current plans through, just the more general reasons that affect all of us-- although maybe it's fine for the countywide petition to just be very simple and general regarding the need to slow down and get community input before finalizing anything, maybe copying some of the language from the MCCPTA resolution?)

I can see that a countywide one is needed, and will help spread the word if one is created, but I'm not the one to write it and advance it. (But all these people who keep saying "I support pausing the program analysis but don't want to sign this petition because it's too DCC-focused" seem like the perfect people to do it?)

I think it's fine for a countywide petition to be really simple and mirror the MCCPTA language. But I do think it would be best for someone outside the DCC to start it, who has connections to non-DCC PTAs, listservs, Facebook groups, etc where they can share it.

This regional model impacts the DCC the most. The DCC schools are not getting more funding, and with the reduction in students, serious cuts will have to be made. These schools are already lacking in course offerings, so what can be cut? To place "magnets" at Northwood or Einstein for the arts makes no sense when there is no additional funding for staff. They cannot offer magnet-level music or theater without additional teaching staff and funding. How is all of this going to work?

It doesn't matter who does the petition. Reality is none of the matters as Taylor, central office and the BOE are going through with this model regardless of community feedback. There will be a lot of flight from the DCC schools (including us), and that will leave these schools in even worse shape if the wealthier, smarter students/families leave. There is very little at our home school and when that is reduced, it puts families in an impossible situation when their kids needs don't get met.

When you say it affects DCC “the most,” how do you know and what are your metrics? Have you pills or talked to anyone not in region 1? See, you can make the plea to ditch the regions with using the language that you are uniquely hurt.

Folks have explained this at length but you choose not to listen.

Clearly, you don't want DCC folks to speak out about the obvious negative impacts of these proposals on the DCC that don't impact the other schools in the Woodward study. Sorry, not sorry.

Straw man. A pious one this time. Speak out but try not to alienate people on your side.

The folks that are being "alienated" were never on the side of the DCC, they just want us to STFU

No, if the point was to slow down the regional analysis, i think you’d find many/most would be in favor and on that side. You wreck your own cause.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone just make a countywide petition already calling to push back the program analysis a year and gather more community feedback on it, so we can stop arguing about why a petition written to maximize the number of DCC signers doesn't talk much about and resonate with people elsewhere in the county?

Nobody is stopping you from doing this except you.

I do not have the time to invest in making and promoting a countywide petition when I and everyone I know is in the DCC area and this current petition works fine for us so a new one would feel redundant to most people in my personal networks. (I also don't have a detailed enough understanding of the specific ways schools in other parts of the county will be harmed by rushing the current plans through, just the more general reasons that affect all of us-- although maybe it's fine for the countywide petition to just be very simple and general regarding the need to slow down and get community input before finalizing anything, maybe copying some of the language from the MCCPTA resolution?)

I can see that a countywide one is needed, and will help spread the word if one is created, but I'm not the one to write it and advance it. (But all these people who keep saying "I support pausing the program analysis but don't want to sign this petition because it's too DCC-focused" seem like the perfect people to do it?)

I think it's fine for a countywide petition to be really simple and mirror the MCCPTA language. But I do think it would be best for someone outside the DCC to start it, who has connections to non-DCC PTAs, listservs, Facebook groups, etc where they can share it.

This regional model impacts the DCC the most. The DCC schools are not getting more funding, and with the reduction in students, serious cuts will have to be made. These schools are already lacking in course offerings, so what can be cut? To place "magnets" at Northwood or Einstein for the arts makes no sense when there is no additional funding for staff. They cannot offer magnet-level music or theater without additional teaching staff and funding. How is all of this going to work?

It doesn't matter who does the petition. Reality is none of the matters as Taylor, central office and the BOE are going through with this model regardless of community feedback. There will be a lot of flight from the DCC schools (including us), and that will leave these schools in even worse shape if the wealthier, smarter students/families leave. There is very little at our home school and when that is reduced, it puts families in an impossible situation when their kids needs don't get met.

When you say it affects DCC “the most,” how do you know and what are your metrics? Have you pills or talked to anyone not in region 1? See, you can make the plea to ditch the regions with using the language that you are uniquely hurt.

Folks have explained this at length but you choose not to listen.

Clearly, you don't want DCC folks to speak out about the obvious negative impacts of these proposals on the DCC that don't impact the other schools in the Woodward study. Sorry, not sorry.

Straw man. A pious one this time. Speak out but try not to alienate people on your side.

The folks that are being "alienated" were never on the side of the DCC, they just want us to STFU

No, if the point was to slow down the regional analysis, i think you’d find many/most would be in favor and on that side. You wreck your own cause.

It's a petition for east county that anyone who supports can sign. If you don't care for east county, don't sign it. You want east county folks to make a petition for you, which is very typical of privileged folks who are used to exploiting less privileged groups.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone just make a countywide petition already calling to push back the program analysis a year and gather more community feedback on it, so we can stop arguing about why a petition written to maximize the number of DCC signers doesn't talk much about and resonate with people elsewhere in the county?

Nobody is stopping you from doing this except you.

I do not have the time to invest in making and promoting a countywide petition when I and everyone I know is in the DCC area and this current petition works fine for us so a new one would feel redundant to most people in my personal networks. (I also don't have a detailed enough understanding of the specific ways schools in other parts of the county will be harmed by rushing the current plans through, just the more general reasons that affect all of us-- although maybe it's fine for the countywide petition to just be very simple and general regarding the need to slow down and get community input before finalizing anything, maybe copying some of the language from the MCCPTA resolution?)

I can see that a countywide one is needed, and will help spread the word if one is created, but I'm not the one to write it and advance it. (But all these people who keep saying "I support pausing the program analysis but don't want to sign this petition because it's too DCC-focused" seem like the perfect people to do it?)

I think it's fine for a countywide petition to be really simple and mirror the MCCPTA language. But I do think it would be best for someone outside the DCC to start it, who has connections to non-DCC PTAs, listservs, Facebook groups, etc where they can share it.

This regional model impacts the DCC the most. The DCC schools are not getting more funding, and with the reduction in students, serious cuts will have to be made. These schools are already lacking in course offerings, so what can be cut? To place "magnets" at Northwood or Einstein for the arts makes no sense when there is no additional funding for staff. They cannot offer magnet-level music or theater without additional teaching staff and funding. How is all of this going to work?

It doesn't matter who does the petition. Reality is none of the matters as Taylor, central office and the BOE are going through with this model regardless of community feedback. There will be a lot of flight from the DCC schools (including us), and that will leave these schools in even worse shape if the wealthier, smarter students/families leave. There is very little at our home school and when that is reduced, it puts families in an impossible situation when their kids needs don't get met.

Wait, so the wealthier, smarter Whitman families are icky but the wealthier, smarter DCC families are the only thing keeping their schools from total collapse. Mmmkay.

DP

Are you saying it's okay to have segregated schools on the east side of the county that only serve Black and Brown low income families that have no choice but to attend those schools? Is there not enough data for you to say that's a bad thing?

I see what you are doing. You correctly identified that the DCC schools are diverse and that different groups within those schools have different needs. Now you are trying to pit those groups against each other. How very White supremacist of you.

DP, but you have to see the hypocrisy of someone saying “you rich people want segregated schools so you suck. Also if I can’t have segregated schools then I will have to move (and be segregated).”

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There is a ton of similarly priced housing in BCC versus Blair so I wouldn’t be surprised if people moved.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone just make a countywide petition already calling to push back the program analysis a year and gather more community feedback on it, so we can stop arguing about why a petition written to maximize the number of DCC signers doesn't talk much about and resonate with people elsewhere in the county?

Nobody is stopping you from doing this except you.

I do not have the time to invest in making and promoting a countywide petition when I and everyone I know is in the DCC area and this current petition works fine for us so a new one would feel redundant to most people in my personal networks. (I also don't have a detailed enough understanding of the specific ways schools in other parts of the county will be harmed by rushing the current plans through, just the more general reasons that affect all of us-- although maybe it's fine for the countywide petition to just be very simple and general regarding the need to slow down and get community input before finalizing anything, maybe copying some of the language from the MCCPTA resolution?)

I can see that a countywide one is needed, and will help spread the word if one is created, but I'm not the one to write it and advance it. (But all these people who keep saying "I support pausing the program analysis but don't want to sign this petition because it's too DCC-focused" seem like the perfect people to do it?)

I think it's fine for a countywide petition to be really simple and mirror the MCCPTA language. But I do think it would be best for someone outside the DCC to start it, who has connections to non-DCC PTAs, listservs, Facebook groups, etc where they can share it.

This regional model impacts the DCC the most. The DCC schools are not getting more funding, and with the reduction in students, serious cuts will have to be made. These schools are already lacking in course offerings, so what can be cut? To place "magnets" at Northwood or Einstein for the arts makes no sense when there is no additional funding for staff. They cannot offer magnet-level music or theater without additional teaching staff and funding. How is all of this going to work?

It doesn't matter who does the petition. Reality is none of the matters as Taylor, central office and the BOE are going through with this model regardless of community feedback. There will be a lot of flight from the DCC schools (including us), and that will leave these schools in even worse shape if the wealthier, smarter students/families leave. There is very little at our home school and when that is reduced, it puts families in an impossible situation when their kids needs don't get met.

Wait, so the wealthier, smarter Whitman families are icky but the wealthier, smarter DCC families are the only thing keeping their schools from total collapse. Mmmkay.

DP

Are you saying it's okay to have segregated schools on the east side of the county that only serve Black and Brown low income families that have no choice but to attend those schools? Is there not enough data for you to say that's a bad thing?

I see what you are doing. You correctly identified that the DCC schools are diverse and that different groups within those schools have different needs. Now you are trying to pit those groups against each other. How very White supremacist of you.

DP, but you have to see the hypocrisy of someone saying “you rich people want segregated schools so you suck. Also if I can’t have segregated schools then I will have to move (and be segregated).”

This response makes no sense for several reasons:
1. I identified myself as a DP. I never said I would have to move, nor do I plan to
2. Our schools currently have students from all backgrounds enrolled including students from families with lower incomes and high incomes. We don't want that to change so I'm not sure why you are saying we only want segregated schools. You're suggesting our schools should focus on serving certain types of students that are disproportionately Blacka and Brown and have lower incomes, and give others the option to go to wealthy schools. That is a recipe for increasing segregation. Why do you want that? Are you a time traveler from the Jim Crow era?

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone just make a countywide petition already calling to push back the program analysis a year and gather more community feedback on it, so we can stop arguing about why a petition written to maximize the number of DCC signers doesn't talk much about and resonate with people elsewhere in the county?

Nobody is stopping you from doing this except you.

I do not have the time to invest in making and promoting a countywide petition when I and everyone I know is in the DCC area and this current petition works fine for us so a new one would feel redundant to most people in my personal networks. (I also don't have a detailed enough understanding of the specific ways schools in other parts of the county will be harmed by rushing the current plans through, just the more general reasons that affect all of us-- although maybe it's fine for the countywide petition to just be very simple and general regarding the need to slow down and get community input before finalizing anything, maybe copying some of the language from the MCCPTA resolution?)

I can see that a countywide one is needed, and will help spread the word if one is created, but I'm not the one to write it and advance it. (But all these people who keep saying "I support pausing the program analysis but don't want to sign this petition because it's too DCC-focused" seem like the perfect people to do it?)

I think it's fine for a countywide petition to be really simple and mirror the MCCPTA language. But I do think it would be best for someone outside the DCC to start it, who has connections to non-DCC PTAs, listservs, Facebook groups, etc where they can share it.

This regional model impacts the DCC the most. The DCC schools are not getting more funding, and with the reduction in students, serious cuts will have to be made. These schools are already lacking in course offerings, so what can be cut? To place "magnets" at Northwood or Einstein for the arts makes no sense when there is no additional funding for staff. They cannot offer magnet-level music or theater without additional teaching staff and funding. How is all of this going to work?

It doesn't matter who does the petition. Reality is none of the matters as Taylor, central office and the BOE are going through with this model regardless of community feedback. There will be a lot of flight from the DCC schools (including us), and that will leave these schools in even worse shape if the wealthier, smarter students/families leave. There is very little at our home school and when that is reduced, it puts families in an impossible situation when their kids needs don't get met.

Wait, so the wealthier, smarter Whitman families are icky but the wealthier, smarter DCC families are the only thing keeping their schools from total collapse. Mmmkay.

DP

Are you saying it's okay to have segregated schools on the east side of the county that only serve Black and Brown low income families that have no choice but to attend those schools? Is there not enough data for you to say that's a bad thing?

I see what you are doing. You correctly identified that the DCC schools are diverse and that different groups within those schools have different needs. Now you are trying to pit those groups against each other. How very White supremacist of you.

What are you talking about? Who said anything about race?! Good grief you have spent too much time in your echo chamber.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone just make a countywide petition already calling to push back the program analysis a year and gather more community feedback on it, so we can stop arguing about why a petition written to maximize the number of DCC signers doesn't talk much about and resonate with people elsewhere in the county?

Nobody is stopping you from doing this except you.

I do not have the time to invest in making and promoting a countywide petition when I and everyone I know is in the DCC area and this current petition works fine for us so a new one would feel redundant to most people in my personal networks. (I also don't have a detailed enough understanding of the specific ways schools in other parts of the county will be harmed by rushing the current plans through, just the more general reasons that affect all of us-- although maybe it's fine for the countywide petition to just be very simple and general regarding the need to slow down and get community input before finalizing anything, maybe copying some of the language from the MCCPTA resolution?)

I can see that a countywide one is needed, and will help spread the word if one is created, but I'm not the one to write it and advance it. (But all these people who keep saying "I support pausing the program analysis but don't want to sign this petition because it's too DCC-focused" seem like the perfect people to do it?)

I think it's fine for a countywide petition to be really simple and mirror the MCCPTA language. But I do think it would be best for someone outside the DCC to start it, who has connections to non-DCC PTAs, listservs, Facebook groups, etc where they can share it.

This regional model impacts the DCC the most. The DCC schools are not getting more funding, and with the reduction in students, serious cuts will have to be made. These schools are already lacking in course offerings, so what can be cut? To place "magnets" at Northwood or Einstein for the arts makes no sense when there is no additional funding for staff. They cannot offer magnet-level music or theater without additional teaching staff and funding. How is all of this going to work?

It doesn't matter who does the petition. Reality is none of the matters as Taylor, central office and the BOE are going through with this model regardless of community feedback. There will be a lot of flight from the DCC schools (including us), and that will leave these schools in even worse shape if the wealthier, smarter students/families leave. There is very little at our home school and when that is reduced, it puts families in an impossible situation when their kids needs don't get met.

Wait, so the wealthier, smarter Whitman families are icky but the wealthier, smarter DCC families are the only thing keeping their schools from total collapse. Mmmkay.

DP

Are you saying it's okay to have segregated schools on the east side of the county that only serve Black and Brown low income families that have no choice but to attend those schools? Is there not enough data for you to say that's a bad thing?

I see what you are doing. You correctly identified that the DCC schools are diverse and that different groups within those schools have different needs. Now you are trying to pit those groups against each other. How very White supremacist of you.

What are you talking about? Who said anything about race?! Good grief you have spent too much time in your echo chamber.

Right because you "don't see race" so instead you use coded language and we all know what you are talking about but you think it gives you plausible deniability. We've all seen this movie before, don't kid yourself

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Anonymous wrote:Idk it sounds like Blair, Northwood, and Einstein just want more APs at their home schools. Like that’s it. Forget all this busing around and lotterying and programs. More APs than the baseline from what is presently proposed. This does run into the question of demand, and I would agree that if there isn’t demand you shouldn’t offer the course. Idk maybe just stick all the money into dedicated bus service for MC for when the classes don’t have enough demand.

What is the "baseline"? All they are saying is every school should offer calculus. What calculus? Is it AP? If so AB and BC or just BC. And is the baseline all in person or are they going to make some classes virtual?

Baseline that they’ve described is Calc BC. I have only ever heard vague suggestions of doing something virtual. I wouldn’t oppose it for individual classes if that’s the only thing that can happen, but virtual is by no means ideal.

They are not bringing back virtual. They've been clear otherwise, the virtual school families that. Offering multiple post BC classes at some schools and not others is not equity. Why should some schools get multiple advanced math classes, and other schools max out at BC? The lack of stem and not having access to Wheaton and Blair is a huge issue for us. We made the mistake with our first child, but we will not do that again.

MCPS also doesn't allow you to privately pay for virtual or private classes and accept them as credit. There is a way to do it for some AP classes but nothing outside of AP or beyond. Nor do they allow for independent study.

What do you mean not having access to Blair? Blair and Einstein (assuming you are an Einstein parent) are both in region 1. The chances of an Einstein-zoned student going to Blair are probably higher than they are now with the magnet spots being limited to Region 1 kids. Do you mean going to Blair via the DCC "choice" process? Because I was under the impression that because Blair is 15% over-capacity, very few kids were able to lottery into Blair that way.

How many slots do you think they are going to offer to outside schools? Not many. The lottery was much better as it shifted kids around to more schools. Not Einstein.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone just make a countywide petition already calling to push back the program analysis a year and gather more community feedback on it, so we can stop arguing about why a petition written to maximize the number of DCC signers doesn't talk much about and resonate with people elsewhere in the county?

Nobody is stopping you from doing this except you.

I do not have the time to invest in making and promoting a countywide petition when I and everyone I know is in the DCC area and this current petition works fine for us so a new one would feel redundant to most people in my personal networks. (I also don't have a detailed enough understanding of the specific ways schools in other parts of the county will be harmed by rushing the current plans through, just the more general reasons that affect all of us-- although maybe it's fine for the countywide petition to just be very simple and general regarding the need to slow down and get community input before finalizing anything, maybe copying some of the language from the MCCPTA resolution?)

I can see that a countywide one is needed, and will help spread the word if one is created, but I'm not the one to write it and advance it. (But all these people who keep saying "I support pausing the program analysis but don't want to sign this petition because it's too DCC-focused" seem like the perfect people to do it?)

I think it's fine for a countywide petition to be really simple and mirror the MCCPTA language. But I do think it would be best for someone outside the DCC to start it, who has connections to non-DCC PTAs, listservs, Facebook groups, etc where they can share it.

This regional model impacts the DCC the most. The DCC schools are not getting more funding, and with the reduction in students, serious cuts will have to be made. These schools are already lacking in course offerings, so what can be cut? To place "magnets" at Northwood or Einstein for the arts makes no sense when there is no additional funding for staff. They cannot offer magnet-level music or theater without additional teaching staff and funding. How is all of this going to work?

It doesn't matter who does the petition. Reality is none of the matters as Taylor, central office and the BOE are going through with this model regardless of community feedback. There will be a lot of flight from the DCC schools (including us), and that will leave these schools in even worse shape if the wealthier, smarter students/families leave. There is very little at our home school and when that is reduced, it puts families in an impossible situation when their kids needs don't get met.

Wait, so the wealthier, smarter Whitman families are icky but the wealthier, smarter DCC families are the only thing keeping their schools from total collapse. Mmmkay.

DP

Are you saying it's okay to have segregated schools on the east side of the county that only serve Black and Brown low income families that have no choice but to attend those schools? Is there not enough data for you to say that's a bad thing?

I see what you are doing. You correctly identified that the DCC schools are diverse and that different groups within those schools have different needs. Now you are trying to pit those groups against each other. How very White supremacist of you.

DCC schools are already very diverse. If we didn't want that, we'd be at your school. No, I don't want the Whitman culture. There is a lot of drugs, checked-out parents, expectations for ubered lunches/lots of spending by kids, expensive clothing (even if they look like slobs), and other things. Those of us who grew up in that enviroment know it still exists and granted its at every school but most of the DCC schools its far less (except the drugs).

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Anonymous wrote:There is a ton of similarly priced housing in BCC versus Blair so I wouldn’t be surprised if people moved.

I'd move to Blair, I would not move to BCC. But, at this point if we move, I'm leaving the county.