$100k fee for h1-b visas coming

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Bill Clinton on illegal immigration.

1995. State of the Union.

Today’s Democratic party would call him a far-right extremist. CNN would say he’s a bigot.


I’m an Independent leaning Democrat and have been saying since the 90’s that immigration, both undocumented and documented H1B, were overwhelmingly against the American people. And yes, some of my more liberal friends would say, if I didn’t know you, I would think you’re a republican. Republicans have so many horrible policies and isms ingrained in them as a political party that even if you agree with them on some things, you can’t vote for them. The hate in the Republican Party is strong.


+100000

It's gotten to a point where people are no longer willing to identify as Republicans or Democrats because those terms have become negative connotations. Sad times.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Newly released gov't records show the vast majority of H-1Bs approvals are for entry & junior level jobs

83% at Wage Levels I & II

Way below market salaries

These jobs can and should be filled by unemployed & underemployed American graduates.

https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2025-18473.pdf

comment here on proposed H1B changes -> https://www.regulations.gov/document/USCIS-2025-0040-0001




Old records show that Trump hires white Eastern European at his resorts over black Americans in FL.
Anonymous
The problem is a lack of balance.

We have US STEM graduates who want to work in that field, but who are having a hard time finding work, or are undercut on wages by a flood of people from India. Not a single H1-B visa should be issued until every last US STEM grad is employed in STEM. Period.

Meanwhile we have other industry sectors like agriculture unable to hire Americans. And the demand has been so great that there are not enough visas being issued which results in an influx of illegal workers. Clearly in that case we DO need to issue more visas.

Balance it out, and put appropriate processes in place. Canada has visa holders required to register their place of residence with local authorities. If a visa holder loses their job or doesn't show up, that should be reported by the employer and the visa holder should have a brief grace period to either find another job or return home.

With balance the job of ICE would be a lot improved. Instead of trying to boil the ocean, doing random sweeps and so on, instead of dealing with millions, instead of dealing with hard-working people who don't even have a parking ticket to their name, they would be able to be much more focused.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The problem is a lack of balance.

We have US STEM graduates who want to work in that field, but who are having a hard time finding work, or are undercut on wages by a flood of people from India. Not a single H1-B visa should be issued until every last US STEM grad is employed in STEM. Period.

Meanwhile we have other industry sectors like agriculture unable to hire Americans. And the demand has been so great that there are not enough visas being issued which results in an influx of illegal workers. Clearly in that case we DO need to issue more visas.

Balance it out, and put appropriate processes in place. Canada has visa holders required to register their place of residence with local authorities. If a visa holder loses their job or doesn't show up, that should be reported by the employer and the visa holder should have a brief grace period to either find another job or return home.

With balance the job of ICE would be a lot improved. Instead of trying to boil the ocean, doing random sweeps and so on, instead of dealing with millions, instead of dealing with hard-working people who don't even have a parking ticket to their name, they would be able to be much more focused.


I agree somewhat, but in general I don't like the approach. A) I kind of agree in the sense that it's frustrating that the individual sectors which aren't particularly politically powerful are targeted. Rare skills are by definition rare. So I agree with that, but... B) I don't think the basic premise of shortages is valid in a large economy. We should be able to cover our bases and get food into our mouths. We already have one of the most productive agricultures sectors the world has ever seen. The problem these "cheap" labor in specific industries causes bubbles. EG the meat packers will say they can't be profitable, because the strawberry farmers have all the cheap labor and all of the capital is going to the cheap labor sectors.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Newly released gov't records show the vast majority of H-1Bs approvals are for entry & junior level jobs

83% at Wage Levels I & II

Way below market salaries

These jobs can and should be filled by unemployed & underemployed American graduates.

https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2025-18473.pdf

comment here on proposed H1B changes -> https://www.regulations.gov/document/USCIS-2025-0040-0001





I'm disappointed by it not being stratified only by wage. I don't trust the "LCA" process at all. I understand that the Trump admin is likely highly constrained by laws that Obama passed. Which is considered some of the best legislation money can buy. So, the 100K fee on h1-b entry is totally welcome.

So, here are the two areas I don't like. About the randomization process. A) It still relies on the LCA process which is highly gamed by employers. B) The employer isn't constrained in the numbers of job applicants they can submit. In the past they easily put forth multiple job positions for the same applicant. I believe they could just as easily find as many applicants say they want the same chance as a level IV applicant, they would just go out and find four applicants create four bona-fide jobs and submit. If they get one, next year they'll use the same three add another one.

I mean it might relieve some of the pressure to depress wages for the LCA, but I highly doubt employers will bump an employee up to a level IV when they can just submit applications for four level I. It may even make the application stuffing problem worse.

IMO they actually have to cap the number of level I petitions for this to make sense. Again, this is probably a no go from the Obama laws.


Obama laws obama laws. Rs control House, Senate and Presidency. When will they admit that they like the status quo?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Newly released gov't records show the vast majority of H-1Bs approvals are for entry & junior level jobs

83% at Wage Levels I & II

Way below market salaries

These jobs can and should be filled by unemployed & underemployed American graduates.

https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2025-18473.pdf

comment here on proposed H1B changes -> https://www.regulations.gov/document/USCIS-2025-0040-0001





I think it's interesting the lca have to abide by collective bargaining agreements for setting wages, should people in IT unionize? When do we get to ratify the labor wages. When are they going to ask us what it ought to be?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Newly released gov't records show the vast majority of H-1Bs approvals are for entry & junior level jobs

83% at Wage Levels I & II

Way below market salaries

These jobs can and should be filled by unemployed & underemployed American graduates.

https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2025-18473.pdf

comment here on proposed H1B changes -> https://www.regulations.gov/document/USCIS-2025-0040-0001





I'm disappointed by it not being stratified only by wage. I don't trust the "LCA" process at all. I understand that the Trump admin is likely highly constrained by laws that Obama passed. Which is considered some of the best legislation money can buy. So, the 100K fee on h1-b entry is totally welcome.

So, here are the two areas I don't like. About the randomization process. A) It still relies on the LCA process which is highly gamed by employers. B) The employer isn't constrained in the numbers of job applicants they can submit. In the past they easily put forth multiple job positions for the same applicant. I believe they could just as easily find as many applicants say they want the same chance as a level IV applicant, they would just go out and find four applicants create four bona-fide jobs and submit. If they get one, next year they'll use the same three add another one.

I mean it might relieve some of the pressure to depress wages for the LCA, but I highly doubt employers will bump an employee up to a level IV when they can just submit applications for four level I. It may even make the application stuffing problem worse.

IMO they actually have to cap the number of level I petitions for this to make sense. Again, this is probably a no go from the Obama laws.


Obama laws obama laws. Rs control House, Senate and Presidency. When will they admit that they like the status quo?


You think this thread is about the status quo. Democrats are lunatics.
Anonymous

The new policy gets its first challenge. Let’s see what happens.

Trump Administration Is Sued Over $100,000 H-1B Visa Fee
https://apple.news/Aq910dmaRSO-ly4Gwq07SwQ

The coalition led by recruitment firm Global Nurse Force is arguing that President Trump didn’t have the power to unilaterally impose a hefty immigration fee without the approval of Congress. It also says that the Trump administration violated the Administrative Procedure Act by acting unreasonably and skipping the normal process for weighing regulatory changes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
The new policy gets its first challenge. Let’s see what happens.

Trump Administration Is Sued Over $100,000 H-1B Visa Fee
https://apple.news/Aq910dmaRSO-ly4Gwq07SwQ

The coalition led by recruitment firm Global Nurse Force is arguing that President Trump didn’t have the power to unilaterally impose a hefty immigration fee without the approval of Congress. It also says that the Trump administration violated the Administrative Procedure Act by acting unreasonably and skipping the normal process for weighing regulatory changes.


Global Nurse Force looks to be a recruiting company for Indian nurses and its founder seems to have Indian ethnicity. Surprise surprise.

Article

America shouldn't allow foreign state-sponsored emigration policies allowing middlemen to abuse a faulty visa process.

"Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s nationwide call to establish India as the ‘Skill Capital of the world’ finds its most potent expression in healthcare sector. Data from the Indian Nursing Council (INC) shows India produces over 325,000 new nursing graduates annually, a vast human resource ready to be skilled into global health ambassadors."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The new policy gets its first challenge. Let’s see what happens.

Trump Administration Is Sued Over $100,000 H-1B Visa Fee
https://apple.news/Aq910dmaRSO-ly4Gwq07SwQ

The coalition led by recruitment firm Global Nurse Force is arguing that President Trump didn’t have the power to unilaterally impose a hefty immigration fee without the approval of Congress. It also says that the Trump administration violated the Administrative Procedure Act by acting unreasonably and skipping the normal process for weighing regulatory changes.


Global Nurse Force looks to be a recruiting company for Indian nurses and its founder seems to have Indian ethnicity. Surprise surprise.

Article

America shouldn't allow foreign state-sponsored emigration policies allowing middlemen to abuse a faulty visa process.

"Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s nationwide call to establish India as the ‘Skill Capital of the world’ finds its most potent expression in healthcare sector. Data from the Indian Nursing Council (INC) shows India produces over 325,000 new nursing graduates annually, a vast human resource ready to be skilled into global health ambassadors."


Perhaps but there definitely is a nursing shortage in this country, which was exacerbated by Covid. There are a number of nurses in my family and I hear this all the time from them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The new policy gets its first challenge. Let’s see what happens.

Trump Administration Is Sued Over $100,000 H-1B Visa Fee
https://apple.news/Aq910dmaRSO-ly4Gwq07SwQ

The coalition led by recruitment firm Global Nurse Force is arguing that President Trump didn’t have the power to unilaterally impose a hefty immigration fee without the approval of Congress. It also says that the Trump administration violated the Administrative Procedure Act by acting unreasonably and skipping the normal process for weighing regulatory changes.


Global Nurse Force looks to be a recruiting company for Indian nurses and its founder seems to have Indian ethnicity. Surprise surprise.

Article

America shouldn't allow foreign state-sponsored emigration policies allowing middlemen to abuse a faulty visa process.

"Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s nationwide call to establish India as the ‘Skill Capital of the world’ finds its most potent expression in healthcare sector. Data from the Indian Nursing Council (INC) shows India produces over 325,000 new nursing graduates annually, a vast human resource ready to be skilled into global health ambassadors."


Perhaps but there definitely is a nursing shortage in this country, which was exacerbated by Covid. There are a number of nurses in my family and I hear this all the time from them.


There's a shortage of a lot of professions here but stop importing them. Why are Americans supporting that foreign countries are subsidizing and otherwise supporting emigration mills to export their excess people? We are not getting their most talented. It's the equivalent of America having a policy to encourage their (less intelligent) 3rd and 4th tier college grads to move to another country permanently.

Train Americans. Otherwise it just depresses local economirs and the economic imbalance worsens by adding one more unemployed American adult. This leads to one of two outcomes: 1) lowered birth rates because people can’t afford to have kids: or more adults having kids who then live in poverty. Unfortunately, both are happening and this is not sustainable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The new policy gets its first challenge. Let’s see what happens.

Trump Administration Is Sued Over $100,000 H-1B Visa Fee
https://apple.news/Aq910dmaRSO-ly4Gwq07SwQ

The coalition led by recruitment firm Global Nurse Force is arguing that President Trump didn’t have the power to unilaterally impose a hefty immigration fee without the approval of Congress. It also says that the Trump administration violated the Administrative Procedure Act by acting unreasonably and skipping the normal process for weighing regulatory changes.


Global Nurse Force looks to be a recruiting company for Indian nurses and its founder seems to have Indian ethnicity. Surprise surprise.

Article

America shouldn't allow foreign state-sponsored emigration policies allowing middlemen to abuse a faulty visa process.

"Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s nationwide call to establish India as the ‘Skill Capital of the world’ finds its most potent expression in healthcare sector. Data from the Indian Nursing Council (INC) shows India produces over 325,000 new nursing graduates annually, a vast human resource ready to be skilled into global health ambassadors."


Perhaps but there definitely is a nursing shortage in this country, which was exacerbated by Covid. There are a number of nurses in my family and I hear this all the time from them.


I don't understand why Democrats tolerate this line of reasoning. They all know it's bull.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The new policy gets its first challenge. Let’s see what happens.

Trump Administration Is Sued Over $100,000 H-1B Visa Fee
https://apple.news/Aq910dmaRSO-ly4Gwq07SwQ

The coalition led by recruitment firm Global Nurse Force is arguing that President Trump didn’t have the power to unilaterally impose a hefty immigration fee without the approval of Congress. It also says that the Trump administration violated the Administrative Procedure Act by acting unreasonably and skipping the normal process for weighing regulatory changes.


Global Nurse Force looks to be a recruiting company for Indian nurses and its founder seems to have Indian ethnicity. Surprise surprise.

Article

America shouldn't allow foreign state-sponsored emigration policies allowing middlemen to abuse a faulty visa process.

"Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s nationwide call to establish India as the ‘Skill Capital of the world’ finds its most potent expression in healthcare sector. Data from the Indian Nursing Council (INC) shows India produces over 325,000 new nursing graduates annually, a vast human resource ready to be skilled into global health ambassadors."


Perhaps but there definitely is a nursing shortage in this country, which was exacerbated by Covid. There are a number of nurses in my family and I hear this all the time from them.


I don't understand why Democrats tolerate this line of reasoning. They all know it's bull.

dp.. please explain to me how MAGA turn a blind eye to Trump's businesses using (white) foreign labor. Thanks.

-signed an Independent
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The new policy gets its first challenge. Let’s see what happens.

Trump Administration Is Sued Over $100,000 H-1B Visa Fee
https://apple.news/Aq910dmaRSO-ly4Gwq07SwQ

The coalition led by recruitment firm Global Nurse Force is arguing that President Trump didn’t have the power to unilaterally impose a hefty immigration fee without the approval of Congress. It also says that the Trump administration violated the Administrative Procedure Act by acting unreasonably and skipping the normal process for weighing regulatory changes.


Global Nurse Force looks to be a recruiting company for Indian nurses and its founder seems to have Indian ethnicity. Surprise surprise.

Article

America shouldn't allow foreign state-sponsored emigration policies allowing middlemen to abuse a faulty visa process.

"Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s nationwide call to establish India as the ‘Skill Capital of the world’ finds its most potent expression in healthcare sector. Data from the Indian Nursing Council (INC) shows India produces over 325,000 new nursing graduates annually, a vast human resource ready to be skilled into global health ambassadors."


Perhaps but there definitely is a nursing shortage in this country, which was exacerbated by Covid. There are a number of nurses in my family and I hear this all the time from them.


I don't understand why Democrats tolerate this line of reasoning. They all know it's bull.

dp.. please explain to me how MAGA turn a blind eye to Trump's businesses using (white) foreign labor. Thanks.

-signed an Independent


Here he is less than a year ago saying "we need competent people, we need smart people coming into our country, we need a lot of people coming in..."

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The new policy gets its first challenge. Let’s see what happens.

Trump Administration Is Sued Over $100,000 H-1B Visa Fee
https://apple.news/Aq910dmaRSO-ly4Gwq07SwQ

The coalition led by recruitment firm Global Nurse Force is arguing that President Trump didn’t have the power to unilaterally impose a hefty immigration fee without the approval of Congress. It also says that the Trump administration violated the Administrative Procedure Act by acting unreasonably and skipping the normal process for weighing regulatory changes.


Global Nurse Force looks to be a recruiting company for Indian nurses and its founder seems to have Indian ethnicity. Surprise surprise.

Article

America shouldn't allow foreign state-sponsored emigration policies allowing middlemen to abuse a faulty visa process.

"Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s nationwide call to establish India as the ‘Skill Capital of the world’ finds its most potent expression in healthcare sector. Data from the Indian Nursing Council (INC) shows India produces over 325,000 new nursing graduates annually, a vast human resource ready to be skilled into global health ambassadors."


Perhaps but there definitely is a nursing shortage in this country, which was exacerbated by Covid. There are a number of nurses in my family and I hear this all the time from them.


I don't understand why Democrats tolerate this line of reasoning. They all know it's bull.

dp.. please explain to me how MAGA turn a blind eye to Trump's businesses using (white) foreign labor. Thanks.

-signed an Independent


Here he is less than a year ago saying "we need competent people, we need smart people coming into our country, we need a lot of people coming in..."



And here he is saying about the H1B program: "I know the program very well. I use the program...wine you know uh experts...uh even waiters high quality waiters..,you got to get the best people..."

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