New school start times survey

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with the early start time for elementary kids is the early finish time. Right now a lot of dual working families can stagger their schedules to make the current times work. Without a significant increase in slots for after school SACC, option 1 isn’t viable.

The opposite is true for option 2. Without a significant increase in before-care SACC spots, it simply doesn’t work for a lot of working parents.

Then again, FCPS doesn’t give a shit about working parents, they probably won’t start now.

So if they (ES) parents can make the current times work, I fail to see how an extra 30 min later (Option 2) would be so devastating. They also are now saying the early schedule won’t work (Option1). Sorry, you can’t have your cake and eat it too.

You fail to see why it's harder for working parents to get their kids to school at 9:50 than at 9:00? If you can't figure out why that is difficult, I can't help you.

Well that’s 50 minutes you idiot. I said 30. They would move the current 9:20 am kids to 9:50 am. The earlier schools will get the 9:20 am slots.

This is actually not true. There are some schools moving from 9:15 to 9:50, and I think even others moving from 8:30 to 9:50. There was a PDF somewhere that I can't find.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with the early start time for elementary kids is the early finish time. Right now a lot of dual working families can stagger their schedules to make the current times work. Without a significant increase in slots for after school SACC, option 1 isn’t viable.

The opposite is true for option 2. Without a significant increase in before-care SACC spots, it simply doesn’t work for a lot of working parents.

Then again, FCPS doesn’t give a shit about working parents, they probably won’t start now.

So if they (ES) parents can make the current times work, I fail to see how an extra 30 min later (Option 2) would be so devastating. They also are now saying the early schedule won’t work (Option1). Sorry, you can’t have your cake and eat it too.

You fail to see why it's harder for working parents to get their kids to school at 9:50 than at 9:00? If you can't figure out why that is difficult, I can't help you.

Well that’s 50 minutes you idiot. I said 30. They would move the current 9:20 am kids to 9:50 am. The earlier schools will get the 9:20 am slots.

Sigh. Yes, *I* am the idiot. Knowing that my kids' 9:15 start time will become 9:50 (according to you and no one else) really solves that problem and clears up any logistical hurdles. THANK YOU!

Please list the school systems that begin elementary school at 9:50.

Again, as a former elementary teacher, a 9:50 start for elementary school would be egregious.

If this is a bus issue, then cut off all special programs (except special ed) that require busing beyond the base school.
Put the kids' education first.

AAP. If we get rid of AAP bussing, we will have enough busses to start middle school at 8:00 without changing anything else. But parents who bought cheap houses in shitty school zones hoping their kids will get into AAP won't let that happen.

[Anonymous]

9:50 IS NOT A NORMAL SCHOOL TIME. FIND ME ANOTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THIS AREA THAT STARTS THEIR ES AT 9:50.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem with the early start time for elementary kids is the early finish time. Right now a lot of dual working families can stagger their schedules to make the current times work. Without a significant increase in slots for after school SACC, option 1 isn’t viable.

The opposite is true for option 2. Without a significant increase in before-care SACC spots, it simply doesn’t work for a lot of working parents.

Then again, FCPS doesn’t give a shit about working parents, they probably won’t start now.

So if they (ES) parents can make the current times work, I fail to see how an extra 30 min later (Option 2) would be so devastating. They also are now saying the early schedule won’t work (Option1). Sorry, you can’t have your cake and eat it too.

Not everyone has the luxury to have 1 parent cover before and the other parent cover after. Single parents for one, but also where one or both of the parents travels a lot and/or has little flexibility. My job requires me to be in the office by 9 am at the latest. 30 min later would significantly more challenging for me to make that, especially when my spouse is on special assignment or out of town.

To add, just as that creates problems for me before school, I can see how people might have the same problem at the end of the day.

Lots more options for after school care.

I dont understand why this is so hard to understand. Not everyone has an extra $500/mo laying around for just 45 min a day of coverage at some center given that any older neighborhood kid would be unavailable due to the proposed times. My oldest will be in 5th grade next year so they could hold down the fort for that amount of time, but that's really dicey for the younger kids.

This is a common problem all throughout America. Not an FCPS problem. Not FCPS’s job to fix the problem for you. Many families all across America are paying $1000 a month for before and after school care that is not offered at the school. You chose to have one or more children, so you take care of them.

OMG shut up, you rich entitled nasty B.

+1. What does PP think people at or below the poverty line do? SACC is subsidized but good luck getting in these days. Then what?

[Anonymous]

One of the PP's keeps saying they do this in other places. I'd sure like her to post the school systems who care so little about the education of young children that they would start so late.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:9:50 IS NOT A NORMAL SCHOOL TIME. FIND ME ANOTHER SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THIS AREA THAT STARTS THEIR ES AT 9:50.

This. While I don’t believe Fairfax is moving in Option 2 direction, I cannot find one ES that starts this late. I have found some middle/high schools starting at 900-9:30 though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think those advocating for Option 2 must be SAHM or Workfrom home mom

Honestly, the only people I know who like option 2 is middle school parents. Even the high school parents and teachers I know don’t want their kids school pushed back 30 mins. For 30 extra mins for 2 grade levels it isn’t worth it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem with the early start time for elementary kids is the early finish time. Right now a lot of dual working families can stagger their schedules to make the current times work. Without a significant increase in slots for after school SACC, option 1 isn’t viable.

The opposite is true for option 2. Without a significant increase in before-care SACC spots, it simply doesn’t work for a lot of working parents.

Then again, FCPS doesn’t give a shit about working parents, they probably won’t start now.

So if they (ES) parents can make the current times work, I fail to see how an extra 30 min later (Option 2) would be so devastating. They also are now saying the early schedule won’t work (Option1). Sorry, you can’t have your cake and eat it too.

You fail to see why it's harder for working parents to get their kids to school at 9:50 than at 9:00? If you can't figure out why that is difficult, I can't help you.

Well that’s 50 minutes you idiot. I said 30. They would move the current 9:20 am kids to 9:50 am. The earlier schools will get the 9:20 am slots.

Sigh. Yes, *I* am the idiot. Knowing that my kids' 9:15 start time will become 9:50 (according to you and no one else) really solves that problem and clears up any logistical hurdles. THANK YOU!

You can deal with a 35 min delay. Or quit your job. You chose to have kids and sometimes their school schedule interferes with work schedules. Not my problem.

Then what is your problem that you are trying to solve at our expense? May be your problem is not our problem.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem with the early start time for elementary kids is the early finish time. Right now a lot of dual working families can stagger their schedules to make the current times work. Without a significant increase in slots for after school SACC, option 1 isn’t viable.

The opposite is true for option 2. Without a significant increase in before-care SACC spots, it simply doesn’t work for a lot of working parents.

Then again, FCPS doesn’t give a shit about working parents, they probably won’t start now.

So if they (ES) parents can make the current times work, I fail to see how an extra 30 min later (Option 2) would be so devastating. They also are now saying the early schedule won’t work (Option1). Sorry, you can’t have your cake and eat it too.

Not everyone has the luxury to have 1 parent cover before and the other parent cover after. Single parents for one, but also where one or both of the parents travels a lot and/or has little flexibility. My job requires me to be in the office by 9 am at the latest. 30 min later would significantly more challenging for me to make that, especially when my spouse is on special assignment or out of town.

To add, just as that creates problems for me before school, I can see how people might have the same problem at the end of the day.

Lots more options for after school care.

I dont understand why this is so hard to understand. Not everyone has an extra $500/mo laying around for just 45 min a day of coverage at some center given that any older neighborhood kid would be unavailable due to the proposed times. My oldest will be in 5th grade next year so they could hold down the fort for that amount of time, but that's really dicey for the younger kids.

This is a common problem all throughout America. Not an FCPS problem. Not FCPS’s job to fix the problem for you. Many families all across America are paying $1000 a month for before and after school care that is not offered at the school. You chose to have one or more children, so you take care of them.

OMG shut up, you rich entitled nasty B.

I’m entitled because I’ve spent $800/month for childcare when school didn’t match with our work hours?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem with the early start time for elementary kids is the early finish time. Right now a lot of dual working families can stagger their schedules to make the current times work. Without a significant increase in slots for after school SACC, option 1 isn’t viable.

The opposite is true for option 2. Without a significant increase in before-care SACC spots, it simply doesn’t work for a lot of working parents.

Then again, FCPS doesn’t give a shit about working parents, they probably won’t start now.

So if they (ES) parents can make the current times work, I fail to see how an extra 30 min later (Option 2) would be so devastating. They also are now saying the early schedule won’t work (Option1). Sorry, you can’t have your cake and eat it too.

Not everyone has the luxury to have 1 parent cover before and the other parent cover after. Single parents for one, but also where one or both of the parents travels a lot and/or has little flexibility. My job requires me to be in the office by 9 am at the latest. 30 min later would significantly more challenging for me to make that, especially when my spouse is on special assignment or out of town.

To add, just as that creates problems for me before school, I can see how people might have the same problem at the end of the day.

Lots more options for after school care.

I dont understand why this is so hard to understand. Not everyone has an extra $500/mo laying around for just 45 min a day of coverage at some center given that any older neighborhood kid would be unavailable due to the proposed times. My oldest will be in 5th grade next year so they could hold down the fort for that amount of time, but that's really dicey for the younger kids.

This is a common problem all throughout America. Not an FCPS problem. Not FCPS’s job to fix the problem for you. Many families all across America are paying $1000 a month for before and after school care that is not offered at the school. You chose to have one or more children, so you take care of them.

OMG shut up, you rich entitled nasty B.

I’m entitled because I’ve spent $800/month for childcare when school didn’t match with our work hours?

You're entitled because you don't understand that not everyone is in the same situation as you.

[Anonymous]

Make all schools start at 8 and end at 3. End of story.

[Anonymous]

Option 1 has the high schools starting too late. 9 am is not ok, especially when they initially said high school times wouldn’t be affected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Make all schools start at 8 and end at 3. End of story.

They can’t do that with the current transportation budget, unfortunately.

I’m an elementary parent and I wouldn’t have a problem starting ES 30 minutes earlier and MS 30 minutes later if that were an option. Many of the elementaries start quite late already (between 9-9:20) so pushing it 30 minutes earlier would probably be a welcome change.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Make all schools start at 8 and end at 3. End of story.

They can’t do that with the current transportation budget, unfortunately.

I’m an elementary parent and I wouldn’t have a problem starting ES 30 minutes earlier and MS 30 minutes later if that were an option. Many of the elementaries start quite late already (between 9-9:20) so pushing it 30 minutes earlier would probably be a welcome change.

Those aren’t the options. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

These schedules are all about the parents and their needs. They don't have anything to do with the students. The students are a non-issue. It's all about the parents' needs.