Female sexual desire

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I don’t want to have sex with my husband when he’s fat. I have never been attracted to women, yet I get the simulated experience of sleeping with a pregnant woman if I ever want to have sex. His beer belly is the size of a 6 month pregnant woman. It’s unattractive and kills the mood.

This has nothing to do with my insecurities or how I feel about my body. It’s insulting to suggest that not wanting to have sex with an obese guy is somehow “in my head.”

"the mood" is in your head. Get on top, get it from behind, get creative. If you're imagining "beer belly" and "6 month pregnant woman" and that's not doing it for you, well, that's your head. You can condition yourself to be attracted to all kinds of things.

-a woman

This is the dumbest most insane thing on this thread. No way can I close my eyes and think of England. I’m not Melanie. I’ll literally vomit.
-a woman

Squeamish people are bad in bed.

I’m not squeamish if you’re hot. But I’m not effing you if you’re fat. Sorry not sorry.

"My orgasm depends on your body" is a low-skill, sexually-immature mentality, for all parties

Get real.

Sorry you’re unattractive.

Sorry you're small-minded and a terrible lay!

Dude, it's basic biology to want to mate with someone who is healthy. It goes against nature to want to procreate with someone who is obviously ill. That's like someone saying to you that you are bad at sex because you don't want it with your partner who currently has a chicken pox infection. It's normal (and healthy) to be turned off by an unhealthy body.

compares "obesity" (which, to someone like you, is probably a size 12) to an infectious disease...

Yup. fatphobic incel troll is back!

I’m a woman. And obesity is a disorder. It’s not a healthy or normal way of being. It’s not a moral failing. But I don’t want to have sex with my DH after he gained 30lbs. That’s a normal reaction.

30 lbs overweight isn't a disorder. And no, sexually rejecting someone you claim to love because they've gained weight isn't "a normal reaction" at all.

You're vain. Just admit it.

You sound like you're in deep denial. For my spouse, those 30lbs make him cross over into the obesity category. And medically speaking, it is in fact a disorder.

The fact that physical appearance is a major factor for women and men in terms of sexual desire isn't a crazy idea. It's how humans have worked since time immemorial.

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I didn’t read the whole thread but I think to be honest there’s some truth to feeling in the mood when you feel good about yourself. I feel in the mood when my husband seems genuinely attracted to me and makes comments about how I look nice even when we are obviously not going to have sex (like I am walking out the door and the kids are right there). I feel dramatically less like having sex when I feel reduced to “person who has a vagina” which is how I feel if he whines or “jokes” about not having as much sex as he wants.

I am genuinely curious if men think saying “I’m horny” or “it’s been x long since we had sex” is initiating?

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Anonymous wrote:Obesity is not a disease.

Obesity is a disease. Not all diseases are infectious. Obesity is a metabolic disease and it leads to all sorts of other diseases (like diabetes) as well as impairing the immune system and thus making the obese person more susceptible to infectious diseases.

This is a thread about female sexual desire, not your fatphobia. Go off in the health forum, if that's what you're into.

It's not a phobia because I'm not afraid of your flabby wrinkled body. I'm just disgusted by it.

Please feel free to not have sex with me.

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I don’t want to have sex with my husband when he’s fat. I have never been attracted to women, yet I get the simulated experience of sleeping with a pregnant woman if I ever want to have sex. His beer belly is the size of a 6 month pregnant woman. It’s unattractive and kills the mood.

This has nothing to do with my insecurities or how I feel about my body. It’s insulting to suggest that not wanting to have sex with an obese guy is somehow “in my head.”

"the mood" is in your head. Get on top, get it from behind, get creative. If you're imagining "beer belly" and "6 month pregnant woman" and that's not doing it for you, well, that's your head. You can condition yourself to be attracted to all kinds of things.

-a woman

This is the dumbest most insane thing on this thread. No way can I close my eyes and think of England. I’m not Melanie. I’ll literally vomit.
-a woman

Squeamish people are bad in bed.

I’m not squeamish if you’re hot. But I’m not effing you if you’re fat. Sorry not sorry.

"My orgasm depends on your body" is a low-skill, sexually-immature mentality, for all parties

Get real.

Sorry you’re unattractive.

Sorry you're small-minded and a terrible lay!

Dude, it's basic biology to want to mate with someone who is healthy. It goes against nature to want to procreate with someone who is obviously ill. That's like someone saying to you that you are bad at sex because you don't want it with your partner who currently has a chicken pox infection. It's normal (and healthy) to be turned off by an unhealthy body.

compares "obesity" (which, to someone like you, is probably a size 12) to an infectious disease...

Yup. fatphobic incel troll is back!

I’m a woman. And obesity is a disorder. It’s not a healthy or normal way of being. It’s not a moral failing. But I don’t want to have sex with my DH after he gained 30lbs. That’s a normal reaction.

30 lbs overweight isn't a disorder. And no, sexually rejecting someone you claim to love because they've gained weight isn't "a normal reaction" at all.

You're vain. Just admit it.

You sound like you're in deep denial. For my spouse, those 30lbs make him cross over into the obesity category. And medically speaking, it is in fact a disorder.

The fact that physical appearance is a major factor for women and men in terms of sexual desire isn't a crazy idea. It's how humans have worked since time immemorial.

In a sense, maybe, but the ideals of beauty have changed, radically, over the years, and politics and fashion have always gone hand-in-hand. Acting like "fat is ugly because biology" is a truth is actually quite backwards. Fat mates had ample access to food, which would indicate good hunting and likely adequate access to resources for potential offspring.

So while, yes, the idea that we're culturally-conditioned to think certain body types are sexy has been a thing since "time immemorial", what that has actually meant over the years isn't the balloon boob, ozempic-thin, Kardashian-assed standard people think of today.

Smarter people recognize this conditioning, and can actually decondition and learn how to expand their sexual palate. Sorry you're not one of them. Sucks to be your spouse.

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Anonymous wrote:Your post is insulting.

I don’t want to have sex with my husband when he’s fat. I have never been attracted to women, yet I get the simulated experience of sleeping with a pregnant woman if I ever want to have sex. His beer belly is the size of a 6 month pregnant woman. It’s unattractive and kills the mood.

This has nothing to do with my insecurities or how I feel about my body. It’s insulting to suggest that not wanting to have sex with an obese guy is somehow “in my head.”

"the mood" is in your head. Get on top, get it from behind, get creative. If you're imagining "beer belly" and "6 month pregnant woman" and that's not doing it for you, well, that's your head. You can condition yourself to be attracted to all kinds of things.

-a woman

This is the dumbest most insane thing on this thread. No way can I close my eyes and think of England. I’m not Melanie. I’ll literally vomit.
-a woman

Squeamish people are bad in bed.

I’m not squeamish if you’re hot. But I’m not effing you if you’re fat. Sorry not sorry.

"My orgasm depends on your body" is a low-skill, sexually-immature mentality, for all parties

Get real.

Sorry you’re unattractive.

Sorry you're small-minded and a terrible lay!

Dude, it's basic biology to want to mate with someone who is healthy. It goes against nature to want to procreate with someone who is obviously ill. That's like someone saying to you that you are bad at sex because you don't want it with your partner who currently has a chicken pox infection. It's normal (and healthy) to be turned off by an unhealthy body.

compares "obesity" (which, to someone like you, is probably a size 12) to an infectious disease...

Yup. fatphobic incel troll is back!

I’m a woman. And obesity is a disorder. It’s not a healthy or normal way of being. It’s not a moral failing. But I don’t want to have sex with my DH after he gained 30lbs. That’s a normal reaction.

30 lbs overweight isn't a disorder. And no, sexually rejecting someone you claim to love because they've gained weight isn't "a normal reaction" at all.

You're vain. Just admit it.

You sound like you're in deep denial. For my spouse, those 30lbs make him cross over into the obesity category. And medically speaking, it is in fact a disorder.

The fact that physical appearance is a major factor for women and men in terms of sexual desire isn't a crazy idea. It's how humans have worked since time immemorial.

In a sense, maybe, but the ideals of beauty have changed, radically, over the years, and politics and fashion have always gone hand-in-hand. Acting like "fat is ugly because biology" is a truth is actually quite backwards. Fat mates had ample access to food, which would indicate good hunting and likely adequate access to resources for potential offspring.

So while, yes, the idea that we're culturally-conditioned to think certain body types are sexy has been a thing since "time immemorial", what that has actually meant over the years isn't the balloon boob, ozempic-thin, Kardashian-assed standard people think of today.

Smarter people recognize this conditioning, and can actually decondition and learn how to expand their sexual palate. Sorry you're not one of them. Sucks to be your spouse.

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You can’t undo 300,000+ years of evolution. Delusional. Your rant about fake people now is irrelevant and you’re really stretching to somehow add to your non argument that health ≠ beauty somehow.

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I don’t want to have sex with my husband when he’s fat. I have never been attracted to women, yet I get the simulated experience of sleeping with a pregnant woman if I ever want to have sex. His beer belly is the size of a 6 month pregnant woman. It’s unattractive and kills the mood.

This has nothing to do with my insecurities or how I feel about my body. It’s insulting to suggest that not wanting to have sex with an obese guy is somehow “in my head.”

"the mood" is in your head. Get on top, get it from behind, get creative. If you're imagining "beer belly" and "6 month pregnant woman" and that's not doing it for you, well, that's your head. You can condition yourself to be attracted to all kinds of things.

-a woman

This is the dumbest most insane thing on this thread. No way can I close my eyes and think of England. I’m not Melanie. I’ll literally vomit.
-a woman

Squeamish people are bad in bed.

I’m not squeamish if you’re hot. But I’m not effing you if you’re fat. Sorry not sorry.

"My orgasm depends on your body" is a low-skill, sexually-immature mentality, for all parties

Get real.

Sorry you’re unattractive.

Sorry you're small-minded and a terrible lay!

Dude, it's basic biology to want to mate with someone who is healthy. It goes against nature to want to procreate with someone who is obviously ill. That's like someone saying to you that you are bad at sex because you don't want it with your partner who currently has a chicken pox infection. It's normal (and healthy) to be turned off by an unhealthy body.

compares "obesity" (which, to someone like you, is probably a size 12) to an infectious disease...

Yup. fatphobic incel troll is back!

I’m a woman. And obesity is a disorder. It’s not a healthy or normal way of being. It’s not a moral failing. But I don’t want to have sex with my DH after he gained 30lbs. That’s a normal reaction.

30 lbs overweight isn't a disorder. And no, sexually rejecting someone you claim to love because they've gained weight isn't "a normal reaction" at all.

You're vain. Just admit it.

You sound like you're in deep denial. For my spouse, those 30lbs make him cross over into the obesity category. And medically speaking, it is in fact a disorder.

The fact that physical appearance is a major factor for women and men in terms of sexual desire isn't a crazy idea. It's how humans have worked since time immemorial.

In a sense, maybe, but the ideals of beauty have changed, radically, over the years, and politics and fashion have always gone hand-in-hand. Acting like "fat is ugly because biology" is a truth is actually quite backwards. Fat mates had ample access to food, which would indicate good hunting and likely adequate access to resources for potential offspring.

So while, yes, the idea that we're culturally-conditioned to think certain body types are sexy has been a thing since "time immemorial", what that has actually meant over the years isn't the balloon boob, ozempic-thin, Kardashian-assed standard people think of today.

Smarter people recognize this conditioning, and can actually decondition and learn how to expand their sexual palate. Sorry you're not one of them. Sucks to be your spouse.

Stop 10 random people on the street and ask them if they’d rather have sex with Gisele vs Lizzo.

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I don’t want to have sex with my husband when he’s fat. I have never been attracted to women, yet I get the simulated experience of sleeping with a pregnant woman if I ever want to have sex. His beer belly is the size of a 6 month pregnant woman. It’s unattractive and kills the mood.

This has nothing to do with my insecurities or how I feel about my body. It’s insulting to suggest that not wanting to have sex with an obese guy is somehow “in my head.”

"the mood" is in your head. Get on top, get it from behind, get creative. If you're imagining "beer belly" and "6 month pregnant woman" and that's not doing it for you, well, that's your head. You can condition yourself to be attracted to all kinds of things.

-a woman

This is the dumbest most insane thing on this thread. No way can I close my eyes and think of England. I’m not Melanie. I’ll literally vomit.
-a woman

Squeamish people are bad in bed.

I’m not squeamish if you’re hot. But I’m not effing you if you’re fat. Sorry not sorry.

"My orgasm depends on your body" is a low-skill, sexually-immature mentality, for all parties

Get real.

Sorry you’re unattractive.

Sorry you're small-minded and a terrible lay!

Dude, it's basic biology to want to mate with someone who is healthy. It goes against nature to want to procreate with someone who is obviously ill. That's like someone saying to you that you are bad at sex because you don't want it with your partner who currently has a chicken pox infection. It's normal (and healthy) to be turned off by an unhealthy body.

compares "obesity" (which, to someone like you, is probably a size 12) to an infectious disease...

Yup. fatphobic incel troll is back!

I’m a woman. And obesity is a disorder. It’s not a healthy or normal way of being. It’s not a moral failing. But I don’t want to have sex with my DH after he gained 30lbs. That’s a normal reaction.

30 lbs overweight isn't a disorder. And no, sexually rejecting someone you claim to love because they've gained weight isn't "a normal reaction" at all.

You're vain. Just admit it.

You sound like you're in deep denial. For my spouse, those 30lbs make him cross over into the obesity category. And medically speaking, it is in fact a disorder.

The fact that physical appearance is a major factor for women and men in terms of sexual desire isn't a crazy idea. It's how humans have worked since time immemorial.

In a sense, maybe, but the ideals of beauty have changed, radically, over the years, and politics and fashion have always gone hand-in-hand. Acting like "fat is ugly because biology" is a truth is actually quite backwards. Fat mates had ample access to food, which would indicate good hunting and likely adequate access to resources for potential offspring.

So while, yes, the idea that we're culturally-conditioned to think certain body types are sexy has been a thing since "time immemorial", what that has actually meant over the years isn't the balloon boob, ozempic-thin, Kardashian-assed standard people think of today.

Smarter people recognize this conditioning, and can actually decondition and learn how to expand their sexual palate. Sorry you're not one of them. Sucks to be your spouse.

Stop 10 random people on the street and ask them if they’d rather have sex with Gisele vs Lizzo.

DP. Is this meant to undermine PP’s point because you think people will pick Gisele? It doesn’t undermine the point and misses it entirely.

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I don’t want to have sex with my husband when he’s fat. I have never been attracted to women, yet I get the simulated experience of sleeping with a pregnant woman if I ever want to have sex. His beer belly is the size of a 6 month pregnant woman. It’s unattractive and kills the mood.

This has nothing to do with my insecurities or how I feel about my body. It’s insulting to suggest that not wanting to have sex with an obese guy is somehow “in my head.”

"the mood" is in your head. Get on top, get it from behind, get creative. If you're imagining "beer belly" and "6 month pregnant woman" and that's not doing it for you, well, that's your head. You can condition yourself to be attracted to all kinds of things.

-a woman

This is the dumbest most insane thing on this thread. No way can I close my eyes and think of England. I’m not Melanie. I’ll literally vomit.
-a woman

Squeamish people are bad in bed.

I’m not squeamish if you’re hot. But I’m not effing you if you’re fat. Sorry not sorry.

"My orgasm depends on your body" is a low-skill, sexually-immature mentality, for all parties

Get real.

Sorry you’re unattractive.

Sorry you're small-minded and a terrible lay!

Dude, it's basic biology to want to mate with someone who is healthy. It goes against nature to want to procreate with someone who is obviously ill. That's like someone saying to you that you are bad at sex because you don't want it with your partner who currently has a chicken pox infection. It's normal (and healthy) to be turned off by an unhealthy body.

compares "obesity" (which, to someone like you, is probably a size 12) to an infectious disease...

Yup. fatphobic incel troll is back!

I’m a woman. And obesity is a disorder. It’s not a healthy or normal way of being. It’s not a moral failing. But I don’t want to have sex with my DH after he gained 30lbs. That’s a normal reaction.

30 lbs overweight isn't a disorder. And no, sexually rejecting someone you claim to love because they've gained weight isn't "a normal reaction" at all.

You're vain. Just admit it.

You sound like you're in deep denial. For my spouse, those 30lbs make him cross over into the obesity category. And medically speaking, it is in fact a disorder.

The fact that physical appearance is a major factor for women and men in terms of sexual desire isn't a crazy idea. It's how humans have worked since time immemorial.

In a sense, maybe, but the ideals of beauty have changed, radically, over the years, and politics and fashion have always gone hand-in-hand. Acting like "fat is ugly because biology" is a truth is actually quite backwards. Fat mates had ample access to food, which would indicate good hunting and likely adequate access to resources for potential offspring.

So while, yes, the idea that we're culturally-conditioned to think certain body types are sexy has been a thing since "time immemorial", what that has actually meant over the years isn't the balloon boob, ozempic-thin, Kardashian-assed standard people think of today.

Smarter people recognize this conditioning, and can actually decondition and learn how to expand their sexual palate. Sorry you're not one of them. Sucks to be your spouse.

.
You can’t undo 300,000+ years of evolution. Delusional. Your rant about fake people now is irrelevant and you’re really stretching to somehow add to your non argument that health ≠ beauty somehow.

Do you think the Kate Moss waif look was sexually attractive in eons past?

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The #1 mistake men make is after sex. This is the time for cuddling, telling her how great it was, how wet it was, etc. But unfortunately that's when a lot men just become completely disengage and just want to get up and leave. If you are that man, fix your post sex attitude and your wife will want you more. When women enjoy sex with you, they are very generous.

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I don’t want to have sex with my husband when he’s fat. I have never been attracted to women, yet I get the simulated experience of sleeping with a pregnant woman if I ever want to have sex. His beer belly is the size of a 6 month pregnant woman. It’s unattractive and kills the mood.

This has nothing to do with my insecurities or how I feel about my body. It’s insulting to suggest that not wanting to have sex with an obese guy is somehow “in my head.”

"the mood" is in your head. Get on top, get it from behind, get creative. If you're imagining "beer belly" and "6 month pregnant woman" and that's not doing it for you, well, that's your head. You can condition yourself to be attracted to all kinds of things.

-a woman

This is the dumbest most insane thing on this thread. No way can I close my eyes and think of England. I’m not Melanie. I’ll literally vomit.
-a woman

Squeamish people are bad in bed.

I’m not squeamish if you’re hot. But I’m not effing you if you’re fat. Sorry not sorry.

"My orgasm depends on your body" is a low-skill, sexually-immature mentality, for all parties

Get real.

Sorry you’re unattractive.

Sorry you're small-minded and a terrible lay!

Dude, it's basic biology to want to mate with someone who is healthy. It goes against nature to want to procreate with someone who is obviously ill. That's like someone saying to you that you are bad at sex because you don't want it with your partner who currently has a chicken pox infection. It's normal (and healthy) to be turned off by an unhealthy body.

compares "obesity" (which, to someone like you, is probably a size 12) to an infectious disease...

Yup. fatphobic incel troll is back!

I’m a woman. And obesity is a disorder. It’s not a healthy or normal way of being. It’s not a moral failing. But I don’t want to have sex with my DH after he gained 30lbs. That’s a normal reaction.

30 lbs overweight isn't a disorder. And no, sexually rejecting someone you claim to love because they've gained weight isn't "a normal reaction" at all.

You're vain. Just admit it.

You sound like you're in deep denial. For my spouse, those 30lbs make him cross over into the obesity category. And medically speaking, it is in fact a disorder.

The fact that physical appearance is a major factor for women and men in terms of sexual desire isn't a crazy idea. It's how humans have worked since time immemorial.

In a sense, maybe, but the ideals of beauty have changed, radically, over the years, and politics and fashion have always gone hand-in-hand. Acting like "fat is ugly because biology" is a truth is actually quite backwards. Fat mates had ample access to food, which would indicate good hunting and likely adequate access to resources for potential offspring.

So while, yes, the idea that we're culturally-conditioned to think certain body types are sexy has been a thing since "time immemorial", what that has actually meant over the years isn't the balloon boob, ozempic-thin, Kardashian-assed standard people think of today.

Smarter people recognize this conditioning, and can actually decondition and learn how to expand their sexual palate. Sorry you're not one of them. Sucks to be your spouse.

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You can’t undo 300,000+ years of evolution. Delusional. Your rant about fake people now is irrelevant and you’re really stretching to somehow add to your non argument that health ≠ beauty somehow.

Do you think the Kate Moss waif look was sexually attractive in eons past?

Assuming the false dichotomy that we must think Kate Moss is perfect because I am not sexually attracted to my obese spouse is beyond stupid. Try again.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t read the whole thread but I think to be honest there’s some truth to feeling in the mood when you feel good about yourself. I feel in the mood when my husband seems genuinely attracted to me and makes comments about how I look nice even when we are obviously not going to have sex (like I am walking out the door and the kids are right there). I feel dramatically less like having sex when I feel reduced to “person who has a vagina” which is how I feel if he whines or “jokes” about not having as much sex as he wants.

I am genuinely curious if men think saying “I’m horny” or “it’s been x long since we had sex” is initiating?

By itself - No.
Along with other things like complimenting your wife etc during non-sexual times - Yes

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I don’t want to have sex with my husband when he’s fat. I have never been attracted to women, yet I get the simulated experience of sleeping with a pregnant woman if I ever want to have sex. His beer belly is the size of a 6 month pregnant woman. It’s unattractive and kills the mood.

This has nothing to do with my insecurities or how I feel about my body. It’s insulting to suggest that not wanting to have sex with an obese guy is somehow “in my head.”

"the mood" is in your head. Get on top, get it from behind, get creative. If you're imagining "beer belly" and "6 month pregnant woman" and that's not doing it for you, well, that's your head. You can condition yourself to be attracted to all kinds of things.

-a woman

This is the dumbest most insane thing on this thread. No way can I close my eyes and think of England. I’m not Melanie. I’ll literally vomit.
-a woman

Squeamish people are bad in bed.

I’m not squeamish if you’re hot. But I’m not effing you if you’re fat. Sorry not sorry.

"My orgasm depends on your body" is a low-skill, sexually-immature mentality, for all parties

Get real.

Sorry you’re unattractive.

Sorry you're small-minded and a terrible lay!

Dude, it's basic biology to want to mate with someone who is healthy. It goes against nature to want to procreate with someone who is obviously ill. That's like someone saying to you that you are bad at sex because you don't want it with your partner who currently has a chicken pox infection. It's normal (and healthy) to be turned off by an unhealthy body.

compares "obesity" (which, to someone like you, is probably a size 12) to an infectious disease...

Yup. fatphobic incel troll is back!

I’m a woman. And obesity is a disorder. It’s not a healthy or normal way of being. It’s not a moral failing. But I don’t want to have sex with my DH after he gained 30lbs. That’s a normal reaction.

30 lbs overweight isn't a disorder. And no, sexually rejecting someone you claim to love because they've gained weight isn't "a normal reaction" at all.

You're vain. Just admit it.

You sound like you're in deep denial. For my spouse, those 30lbs make him cross over into the obesity category. And medically speaking, it is in fact a disorder.

The fact that physical appearance is a major factor for women and men in terms of sexual desire isn't a crazy idea. It's how humans have worked since time immemorial.

In a sense, maybe, but the ideals of beauty have changed, radically, over the years, and politics and fashion have always gone hand-in-hand. Acting like "fat is ugly because biology" is a truth is actually quite backwards. Fat mates had ample access to food, which would indicate good hunting and likely adequate access to resources for potential offspring.

So while, yes, the idea that we're culturally-conditioned to think certain body types are sexy has been a thing since "time immemorial", what that has actually meant over the years isn't the balloon boob, ozempic-thin, Kardashian-assed standard people think of today.

Smarter people recognize this conditioning, and can actually decondition and learn how to expand their sexual palate. Sorry you're not one of them. Sucks to be your spouse.

Very few men, if any expect their wives to look like a model or resemble the so called beautiful women from hollywood or tv. Most men don’t look like professional athletes. So it would be stupid for them to have very high standards. We just want our spouses to be h/w proportionate.

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Obesity is a disease. Not all diseases are infectious. Obesity is a metabolic disease and it leads to all sorts of other diseases (like diabetes) as well as impairing the immune system and thus making the obese person more susceptible to infectious diseases.

This is a thread about female sexual desire, not your fatphobia. Go off in the health forum, if that's what you're into.

It's not a phobia because I'm not afraid of your flabby wrinkled body. I'm just disgusted by it.

Please feel free to not have sex with me.

No problem, I'm not a fatty fscker / chubby chaser / pork pounder / whale wrangler.

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Anonymous wrote:Your post is insulting.

I don’t want to have sex with my husband when he’s fat. I have never been attracted to women, yet I get the simulated experience of sleeping with a pregnant woman if I ever want to have sex. His beer belly is the size of a 6 month pregnant woman. It’s unattractive and kills the mood.

This has nothing to do with my insecurities or how I feel about my body. It’s insulting to suggest that not wanting to have sex with an obese guy is somehow “in my head.”

"the mood" is in your head. Get on top, get it from behind, get creative. If you're imagining "beer belly" and "6 month pregnant woman" and that's not doing it for you, well, that's your head. You can condition yourself to be attracted to all kinds of things.

-a woman

This is the dumbest most insane thing on this thread. No way can I close my eyes and think of England. I’m not Melanie. I’ll literally vomit.
-a woman

Squeamish people are bad in bed.

I’m not squeamish if you’re hot. But I’m not effing you if you’re fat. Sorry not sorry.

"My orgasm depends on your body" is a low-skill, sexually-immature mentality, for all parties

Get real.

Sorry you’re unattractive.

Sorry you're small-minded and a terrible lay!

Dude, it's basic biology to want to mate with someone who is healthy. It goes against nature to want to procreate with someone who is obviously ill. That's like someone saying to you that you are bad at sex because you don't want it with your partner who currently has a chicken pox infection. It's normal (and healthy) to be turned off by an unhealthy body.

compares "obesity" (which, to someone like you, is probably a size 12) to an infectious disease...

Yup. fatphobic incel troll is back!

I’m a woman. And obesity is a disorder. It’s not a healthy or normal way of being. It’s not a moral failing. But I don’t want to have sex with my DH after he gained 30lbs. That’s a normal reaction.

30 lbs overweight isn't a disorder. And no, sexually rejecting someone you claim to love because they've gained weight isn't "a normal reaction" at all.

You're vain. Just admit it.

You sound like you're in deep denial. For my spouse, those 30lbs make him cross over into the obesity category. And medically speaking, it is in fact a disorder.

The fact that physical appearance is a major factor for women and men in terms of sexual desire isn't a crazy idea. It's how humans have worked since time immemorial.

In a sense, maybe, but the ideals of beauty have changed, radically, over the years, and politics and fashion have always gone hand-in-hand. Acting like "fat is ugly because biology" is a truth is actually quite backwards. Fat mates had ample access to food, which would indicate good hunting and likely adequate access to resources for potential offspring.

So while, yes, the idea that we're culturally-conditioned to think certain body types are sexy has been a thing since "time immemorial", what that has actually meant over the years isn't the balloon boob, ozempic-thin, Kardashian-assed standard people think of today.

Smarter people recognize this conditioning, and can actually decondition and learn how to expand their sexual palate. Sorry you're not one of them. Sucks to be your spouse.

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You can’t undo 300,000+ years of evolution. Delusional. Your rant about fake people now is irrelevant and you’re really stretching to somehow add to your non argument that health ≠ beauty somehow.

Google rubenesque and get back to me, clownshoes.

What you consider "beautiful" may be unhealthy af (I was "gorgeous" and anorexic at the same time). And what you consider ugly might be perfectly healthy (I've been "overweight" and even "obese" with perfect labwork and better health than thinner versions of me).

Just admit that your kink is fatshaming. You don't need to try to rope 300,000+ years of evolution into it. Just own what you're into.

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Anonymous wrote:Obesity is not a disease.

Obesity is a disease. Not all diseases are infectious. Obesity is a metabolic disease and it leads to all sorts of other diseases (like diabetes) as well as impairing the immune system and thus making the obese person more susceptible to infectious diseases.

This is a thread about female sexual desire, not your fatphobia. Go off in the health forum, if that's what you're into.

It's not a phobia because I'm not afraid of your flabby wrinkled body. I'm just disgusted by it.

Please feel free to not have sex with me.

No problem, I'm not a fatty fscker / chubby chaser / pork pounder / whale wrangler.

And I don't fsck little boys with basic tatebetch mentality, so we're good.