Maybe it would be a good thing if Trump limited international students at t100 schools?

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Anonymous wrote:He just proposed capping Harvard international students at 15% down from 31%. Why not?


I’m MAGA and I think this is horrible. I want SMALLER government, not the POTUS micromanaging private universities.

This won’t make America great again.

Fake MAGA.
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Anonymous wrote:He just proposed capping Harvard international students at 15% down from 31%. Why not?


I'd be good with this, really would be the best and the brightest then.


So you are good with a president dictating enrollment caps for private schools? How about public schools? How about what you can and cannot purchase? And the list goes on.

I’m good with almost anything you want, except when you demand that I pay for it.
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The government literally has no legal authority to cap international student enrollment. If the government wants to do this Congress needs to pass a law that gives it the authority to do so first.
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Anonymous wrote:I agree that Harvard and other US universities can do more to accept domestic students, but it should not be by force. Vote with your feet. if you think that Harvard is not serving your purpose, apply to other schools. Sooner or later, Harvard will self correct. But bullying to get what you want is not the way to go. n


I'll say this about Trump - his political instincts are uncanny. When you dig down into the issue - should taxpayers be spending billions on supporting the richest and most prestigious university in America, a university where more than a third of students are foreign and which has a well-established pattern of propagating fringe progressive beliefs, or should we take that money and support trade schools for young Americans, I can guarantee that 90 percent of Americans are with Trump on this one. I suspect's Harvard's strategy will be to keep things tied up in court forever and wait out this administration and hope for a more Harvard-friendly president who will turn the tap back on. But the way it's being framed - as a class issue - this is a losing issue for Democrats to push back on. I think Harvard and the other schools where more than a third of students are international are on their own.


Not at all surprising that a Trump admirer would think Harvard research is unnecessary but the government should pay for welders and plumbers.


Not a Trump admirer but I don't think all those research dollars are going to the Dana Farber Institute. There's a lot of graduate level research in pretty fringe fields. I'm not sure I think a multi-year grand to study the neurobiology of learning is going to change modern life compared to, say, a microwave. Universities spend a lot on patenting their research outcome. Maybe the revenue from successful patents should be shared with the Fed.
But given the fact that universities rely on government funding instead of revenue from their patents, there's not a lot of accountability going on compared to say the research that goes on in the private sector (GE, P&G, J&J, Pharma, etc..)
There are a lot of post-grads in post-grad hell. They rely on grants to keep going and cannot spin out into the private sector at all (e.g. sample list above). That is why the competition in post-graduate level academia is so fierce over paltry amounts.


Dude, you know NOTHING about research, much less about research at a university such as Harvard. Private sector relies heavily on the government for research too. We ALL benefit from this.

You're either a troll or too dumb to keep talking to if you think a microwave is more important than cancer research.

Lot's of people on one particular side of this try to insult people into silence. It's very interesting to watch...


Yes, Trump tries to insult people and threaten them to keep silent while he is outright corrupt and following the authoritarian playbook in full view. It's disgusting.
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Anonymous wrote:The government literally has no legal authority to cap international student enrollment. If the government wants to do this Congress needs to pass a law that gives it the authority to do so first.


I'm pretty sure the federal government has the legal authority to issue or deny visas to foreign students.
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W/O reading all comments, OP, NO WAY is this a good idea. I'm not paying $100K a year for my adult daughter to learn in an American silo. Because when Trump and his lackeys are gone and the US looks like Germany in the late 1940s, I want her to be prepared to be a leader in rebuilding the damage this idiot has done to our nation and she can only do that if she has experience collaborating with people with different perspectives (due to American political ideologies, international backgrounds, etc.).
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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't it be a good thing if the top US schools educated and prepared more US students? Is what's happening at harvard a blessing in disguise?

Maybe the government should limit the number of international students at all top schools. Getting in and the cost of attending is just too much.



yes it is a very good thing. and long long overdue.
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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't it be a good thing if the top US schools educated and prepared more US students? Is what's happening at harvard a blessing in disguise?

Maybe the government should limit the number of international students at all top schools. Getting in and the cost of attending is just too much.



Harvard University, a cornerstone of American academia, is increasingly relying on foreign workers through programs like H-1B visas and Optional Practical Training (OPT), often at the expense of American white-collar workers. As American professionals face growing challenges in securing jobs, Harvard’s hiring practices raise serious concerns about economic fairness and ideological influence.

Harvard’s reliance on H-1B (1,200+ hires) and OPT (15,525+ positions) displaces American workers.

Why cant Democrats be the ones working for US workers first? We thank Trump for revoking Harvard’s license and urge extending this to all colleges.

https://white-collar-workers-of-america.org/2025/05/26/harvards-reliance-on-foreign-workers-a-call-for-change-to-protect-american-jobs/
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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't it be a good thing if the top US schools educated and prepared more US students? Is what's happening at harvard a blessing in disguise?

Maybe the government should limit the number of international students at all top schools. Getting in and the cost of attending is just too much.



Harvard University, a cornerstone of American academia, is increasingly relying on foreign workers through programs like H-1B visas and Optional Practical Training (OPT), often at the expense of American white-collar workers. As American professionals face growing challenges in securing jobs, Harvard’s hiring practices raise serious concerns about economic fairness and ideological influence.

Harvard’s reliance on H-1B (1,200+ hires) and OPT (15,525+ positions) displaces American workers.

Why cant Democrats be the ones working for US workers first? We thank Trump for revoking Harvard’s license and urge extending this to all colleges.

https://white-collar-workers-of-america.org/2025/05/26/harvards-reliance-on-foreign-workers-a-call-for-change-to-protect-american-jobs/

Thank you.
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Anonymous wrote:The government literally has no legal authority to cap international student enrollment. If the government wants to do this Congress needs to pass a law that gives it the authority to do so first.


I'm pretty sure the federal government has the legal authority to issue or deny visas to foreign students.


You are talking different thing, government can deny student visa, but can't tell colleges what, how to do.
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Anonymous wrote:A big MAGA talking point is that foreigners are taking US jobs. It's true - you try getting a job in the Silicon Valley. That is where I'm from, my family lived there until recently but it is literally impossible to compete with H1B visa holders - and now their kids and friends. Even in areas that you don't need tech skills - like marketing - you can't compete. And then competing with foreign students to get into college - there are less spaces for Americans, so there is less opportunity for them and it's a downward spiral.

The universities don't need billions saved in endowments. They can afford to not take foreign money from students.

Sounds like you want a form of socialism where the government dictates how private organizations are run.

Fwiw I also used to work in the Bay Area. I'm also an American.


It’s absolutely true that foreigners with H1Bs visas have taken over the tech industry in this country. Everyone who works in tech knows this.

Once one Indian gets into a company it soon becomes overtaken by them, they are hiring Indians only.


This!!!!

I never thought I'd be one to-day- get them out!! They are literally taking American jobs - mine and my husband's. DH and I are both citizens - H1B folks aren't!


Yes, we should pay less qualified Americans way more to do the same job because that's the patriotic thing to do.


I'm actually equally qualified, unless you mean a penis is part of the qualification. And yes we should employ qualified AMERICANS here, rather than foreigners.


No, I don't think that. Do you think a penis is a disqualifying attribute? We should employ the best in the field regardless of where they come from. It's probably hard to admit that someone was better at your job, but such is life.


It may h e been the original intent but the idea that today the typical H1B is “the best of the best” is laughable. They are typical; solid B players is the norm.
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International students add so much more to the classroom than taking American kids from dumb states and counties for the sake of “diversity.” The smartest kids in most of my classes at an Ivy were from France, Scandinavia, Romania, India, Russia, Nigeria... They were also the worldliest and most cultured.
What Trump is doing is to the detriment of America. Again.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't it be a good thing if the top US schools educated and prepared more US students? Is what's happening at harvard a blessing in disguise?

Maybe the government should limit the number of international students at all top schools. Getting in and the cost of attending is just too much.



Harvard University, a cornerstone of American academia, is increasingly relying on foreign workers through programs like H-1B visas and Optional Practical Training (OPT), often at the expense of American white-collar workers. As American professionals face growing challenges in securing jobs, Harvard’s hiring practices raise serious concerns about economic fairness and ideological influence.

Harvard’s reliance on H-1B (1,200+ hires) and OPT (15,525+ positions) displaces American workers.

Why cant Democrats be the ones working for US workers first? We thank Trump for revoking Harvard’s license and urge extending this to all colleges.

https://white-collar-workers-of-america.org/2025/05/26/harvards-reliance-on-foreign-workers-a-call-for-change-to-protect-american-jobs/


Maybe we start in the Federal govt? Nevermind, don’t you realize that he could give a rat’s ass about American workers?
Anonymous
Amazing how many Libertarians and Federalists there seem to be now. It’s like half the country suddenly discovered that government might not be the best solution in the last six months. Curious.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't it be a good thing if the top US schools educated and prepared more US students? Is what's happening at harvard a blessing in disguise?

Maybe the government should limit the number of international students at all top schools. Getting in and the cost of attending is just too much.



It is not zero sum. There will be an immediate contraction because in the short term there was no planning so there's no other option.

Ultimately the damage will be to state schools. State/Federal government is not going to shore up these losses with new funding, and there are no extra US students willing to fullpay at Arizona, etc.
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