Dad leaves toddler to die in hot car while he plays games on Play Station

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a private investigator having a slow day at work... didn't pull out all stops (would require ordering documents), but a quick public records search indicate that he did indeed have a criminal case from 2020 that is now sealed, and had a contentious divorce that started in 2012 and didn't end till 2021.. that docket includes a note about an arrest in August 2023.

On closer look and a bit more research there were a handful of civil arrest warrants between 2020 and 2023 - looks like he was not paying child support (several other docket entries indicating as much) and not showing up to court hearings, resulting in the civil arrest warrants.

Wow! Oldest child with wife was born in 2015! You don't think the older two kids are his kids from the first marriage do you? Are they definitely the biological children of the current Dr. wife?

Interesting take. At the hearing the doctor said she hardly sees the kids. So if he was jailed the first kids would go back to their mom? Wonder how much visitation he had/took esp if not regularly paying support. From part time dad of school aged kids to FT dad of toddler would be a big shift in lifestyle. One he wasn't really up for logistically it seems. Those poor kids, all 3 of them.

No, I retracted it after listening to the hearing. All three kids are full siblings.

We think.

How they refer to them and the inferences you drew are not facts.

Other than the PI's references to child support hearings, we don't even have any evidence to suggest the man HAS other children.

You can search the Maricopa County family court records, it’s free public access.

I’m not disputing it. But if mom is staying home to watch her two other kids because dad isn’t allowed to, they are obviously her kids and not some other woman’s children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have intense anxiety about the 5 seconds it takes me to walk around the car to the driver’s side after I load my kid in. Like what happens if I suddenly pass out?

Same!

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Anonymous wrote:I have intense anxiety about the 5 seconds it takes me to walk around the car to the driver’s side after I load my kid in. Like what happens if I suddenly pass out?

Same!

Someone would notice the unconscious woman lying on the ground?

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Anonymous wrote:I have intense anxiety about the 5 seconds it takes me to walk around the car to the driver’s side after I load my kid in. Like what happens if I suddenly pass out?

Same!

Someone would notice the unconscious woman lying on the ground?

Yeah, but would they notice a baby in the (closed) car? Especially if the baby was asleep/not making any noise?

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Anonymous wrote:I have intense anxiety about the 5 seconds it takes me to walk around the car to the driver’s side after I load my kid in. Like what happens if I suddenly pass out?

Same!

Someone would notice the unconscious woman lying on the ground?

Yeah, but would they notice a baby in the (closed) car? Especially if the baby was asleep/not making any noise?

I’m guessing the EMTs would.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have intense anxiety about the 5 seconds it takes me to walk around the car to the driver’s side after I load my kid in. Like what happens if I suddenly pass out?

Same!

This isn’t healthy.

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Terribly sad. RIP to the little one. Hoping that someday soon there will be a safety feature installed in cars to prevent this.

I have a minivan and one thing I do is open the sliding doors, every single time I park the car, regardless of when or where. It forces me to walk around the whole van and check the car seats, before closing the doors. DH has started doing this too when he drives the van.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Terribly sad. RIP to the little one. Hoping that someday soon there will be a safety feature installed in cars to prevent this.

I have a minivan and one thing I do is open the sliding doors, every single time I park the car, regardless of when or where. It forces me to walk around the whole van and check the car seats, before closing the doors. DH has started doing this too when he drives the van.

Car manufacturers would not have prevented this dad from getting on his Play Station and possibly day drinking. This was a regular pattern of deliberately leaving the kids in the car, not a one off error.

Your kids are luckier with you and DH and your commitment to their safety and well being. This loser was not that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Terribly sad. RIP to the little one. Hoping that someday soon there will be a safety feature installed in cars to prevent this.

I have a minivan and one thing I do is open the sliding doors, every single time I park the car, regardless of when or where. It forces me to walk around the whole van and check the car seats, before closing the doors. DH has started doing this too when he drives the van.

Car manufacturers would not have prevented this dad from getting on his Play Station and possibly day drinking. This was a regular pattern of deliberately leaving the kids in the car, not a one off error.

Your kids are luckier with you and DH and your commitment to their safety and well being. This loser was not that.

+1 If anything the remote start feature in the car and the notifications about it that he got on his phone (???) enabled him to leave his kid in the car and think it’s OK instead of preventing it.

[Anonymous]

Cars should have sensors for children in the car with horn honking if they are in there , sad. How come Tesla does it so well

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Anonymous wrote:Terribly sad. RIP to the little one. Hoping that someday soon there will be a safety feature installed in cars to prevent this.

I have a minivan and one thing I do is open the sliding doors, every single time I park the car, regardless of when or where. It forces me to walk around the whole van and check the car seats, before closing the doors. DH has started doing this too when he drives the van.

Car manufacturers would not have prevented this dad from getting on his Play Station and possibly day drinking. This was a regular pattern of deliberately leaving the kids in the car, not a one off error.

Your kids are luckier with you and DH and your commitment to their safety and well being. This loser was not that.

It's true -- like many I read that Washington Post piece years ago about how many of these cases are often purely accidental deaths due to overtired parents or some change in routine that causes a parent to not realize a child is sleeping in the back seat (e.g. they aren't usually the ones to take the baby to daycare and they fall into the routine of driving to work instead and forget). Safety features on cars that would for instance not allow you to lock the car without looking in the back seat or would play a loud alarm upon getting out of the car if there was a person in the back seat could have saved lives in those cases.

But this dad KNEW he was leaving the child in the car. He did it on purpose. He claims the car normally alerts him when it shuts off (and he claims he left the car on with the AC running) but he lied about other things (like how long the child had been in the car) so who knows. In any case this dad would have just ignored or overridden any alert designed to prevent him from accidentally leaving the child locked in a car on a 109 degree day. That was his goal.

Normally I have so much sympathy for parents in these cases but not in this one. This was child abuse and neglect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cars should have sensors for children in the car with horn honking if they are in there , sad. How come Tesla does it so well

He was well aware she was in the car, it wasn't a mistake or one off forgetting.

I guess the neighbors complaining would have nipped his pattern in the bud in your scenario. If not only gaming but wearing a VR headset, can see that he saw containment of toddler as optimal for his purposes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Terribly sad. RIP to the little one. Hoping that someday soon there will be a safety feature installed in cars to prevent this.

I have a minivan and one thing I do is open the sliding doors, every single time I park the car, regardless of when or where. It forces me to walk around the whole van and check the car seats, before closing the doors. DH has started doing this too when he drives the van.

Car manufacturers would not have prevented this dad from getting on his Play Station and possibly day drinking. This was a regular pattern of deliberately leaving the kids in the car, not a one off error.

Your kids are luckier with you and DH and your commitment to their safety and well being. This loser was not that.

+1 If anything the remote start feature in the car and the notifications about it that he got on his phone (???) enabled him to leave his kid in the car and think it’s OK instead of preventing it.

This. It actually enabled his laziness and parental neglect. But for the remote start, she might alive. Still 100% on him, not blaming the car, this was never the intended purpose of remote start.

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Can we please lock this thread now?

[Anonymous]

Given that she must have had the kids in medical school / residency, she probably thought everything would be okay because the other two kids survived his parenting past toddlerhood. She was definitely not around much those years.