Expats

[Anonymous]

Margaret is great. I see no issue. I think people are attacking her for being rich and white, and she can’t do anything right.

They sure phoned it in on the last episode this week. What a boring ending

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Anonymous wrote:What a heart-wrenching episode. I would have had to stay behind too.

Although I sympathize, it is a horrible thing to do to her other two children. How does abandoning them help Gus? How does her wandering the streets of Hong Kong help a damn thing?

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Anonymous wrote:The poster so heartily defending these women as "misunderstood" and "small slip ups" is the one forgetting its a TV show lol. No one is lobbing personal insults, it's TV characters who were written to say and do these things.

I actually had no issue with Hilary exchanging her glass - that was disgusting. But everything else she's just putting puri inbetween all her issues and indirectly blaming her. Davids horrible behavior is no excuse.

I also dont think Margaret deserves that much grace in her situation. Yes, its horrible, but that doesnt mean you can treat people horribly. I'm glad she was honest with Esse and took ownership of her feelings of jealousy that started down the road of Gus's disappearance.

Margaret was only honest with Essie when she was simultaneously asking for a huge favor. What is perhaps most annoying about both Hilary and Margaret's behavior is they think they are caring employers but actually they are quite selfish and thoughtless.

It was a JOB offer, not a request for a “favor.” Y’all have some weird takes.

True but she only apologized when she wanted something from Essie.

She actually had nothing to apologize for. Being jealous of your nanny’s connection with your kids is not actually a sin, nor is interviewing a new babysitter because you think the nanny may no longer be a good fit. The fact that she actually apologized TO ESSIE about that is going above and beyond. But there are a bunch of weird PPs acting as if she was somehow obligated to do this earlier. No, just no.

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Anonymous wrote:What a heart-wrenching episode. I would have had to stay behind too.

Although I sympathize, it is a horrible thing to do to her other two children. How does abandoning them help Gus? How does her wandering the streets of Hong Kong help a damn thing?

I think Margaret has given up on the world, in a quiet way. She's not really alive anymore, she's in some sort of in-between life and death state, the way Gus is.

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Anonymous wrote:Margaret is great. I see no issue. I think people are attacking her for being rich and white, and she can’t do anything right.

They sure phoned it in on the last episode this week. What a boring ending

Yup.

[Anonymous]

I'm a bit disappointed there was no Gus resolution although I wasn't really expecting it. One thing I am a bit puzzled by is why Margaret kept staring at that entranceway with the 2 mops outside. I felt there was some link there to Gus's disappearance.

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Anonymous wrote:What a heart-wrenching episode. I would have had to stay behind too.

Although I sympathize, it is a horrible thing to do to her other two children. How does abandoning them help Gus? How does her wandering the streets of Hong Kong help a damn thing?

DP. She's not "abandoning" them. Her husband even told the kids that they'd meet up with her in the States. I imagine she'll start to go back and forth. Her husband (and Essie) understands why.

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Anonymous wrote:The poster so heartily defending these women as "misunderstood" and "small slip ups" is the one forgetting its a TV show lol. No one is lobbing personal insults, it's TV characters who were written to say and do these things.

I actually had no issue with Hilary exchanging her glass - that was disgusting. But everything else she's just putting puri inbetween all her issues and indirectly blaming her. Davids horrible behavior is no excuse.

I also dont think Margaret deserves that much grace in her situation. Yes, its horrible, but that doesnt mean you can treat people horribly. I'm glad she was honest with Esse and took ownership of her feelings of jealousy that started down the road of Gus's disappearance.

Margaret was only honest with Essie when she was simultaneously asking for a huge favor. What is perhaps most annoying about both Hilary and Margaret's behavior is they think they are caring employers but actually they are quite selfish and thoughtless.

It was a JOB offer, not a request for a “favor.” Y’all have some weird takes.

True but she only apologized when she wanted something from Essie.

She actually had nothing to apologize for. Being jealous of your nanny’s connection with your kids is not actually a sin, nor is interviewing a new babysitter because you think the nanny may no longer be a good fit. The fact that she actually apologized TO ESSIE about that is going above and beyond. But there are a bunch of weird PPs acting as if she was somehow obligated to do this earlier. No, just no.

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Finally, someone normal! Margaret did nothing wrong. Should she have asked Essie to throw in a frozen pizza on her day off? No. But does doing so make her an evil, uncaring, horrible person? Nope. She was lovely to Essie throughout this story - as you said, she apologized to her for being jealous and she told her, very authentically, that she LOVED her. I liked Margaret and felt such incredible empathy for her.

[Anonymous]

Super depressing. it was okay though.

I heard it deviates tremendously from the book.

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Anonymous wrote:The poster so heartily defending these women as "misunderstood" and "small slip ups" is the one forgetting its a TV show lol. No one is lobbing personal insults, it's TV characters who were written to say and do these things.

I actually had no issue with Hilary exchanging her glass - that was disgusting. But everything else she's just putting puri inbetween all her issues and indirectly blaming her. Davids horrible behavior is no excuse.

I also dont think Margaret deserves that much grace in her situation. Yes, its horrible, but that doesnt mean you can treat people horribly. I'm glad she was honest with Esse and took ownership of her feelings of jealousy that started down the road of Gus's disappearance.

Margaret was only honest with Essie when she was simultaneously asking for a huge favor. What is perhaps most annoying about both Hilary and Margaret's behavior is they think they are caring employers but actually they are quite selfish and thoughtless.

It was a JOB offer, not a request for a “favor.” Y’all have some weird takes.

True but she only apologized when she wanted something from Essie.

She actually had nothing to apologize for. Being jealous of your nanny’s connection with your kids is not actually a sin, nor is interviewing a new babysitter because you think the nanny may no longer be a good fit. The fact that she actually apologized TO ESSIE about that is going above and beyond. But there are a bunch of weird PPs acting as if she was somehow obligated to do this earlier. No, just no.

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Finally, someone normal! Margaret did nothing wrong. Should she have asked Essie to throw in a frozen pizza on her day off? No. But does doing so make her an evil, uncaring, horrible person? Nope. She was lovely to Essie throughout this story - as you said, she apologized to her for being jealous and she told her, very authentically, that she LOVED her. I liked Margaret and felt such incredible empathy for her.

If Margaret truly had any empathy she'd know Essie DGAF about her apology or being told she loved her. Essie's love language is food.

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Anonymous wrote:The poster so heartily defending these women as "misunderstood" and "small slip ups" is the one forgetting its a TV show lol. No one is lobbing personal insults, it's TV characters who were written to say and do these things.

I actually had no issue with Hilary exchanging her glass - that was disgusting. But everything else she's just putting puri inbetween all her issues and indirectly blaming her. Davids horrible behavior is no excuse.

I also dont think Margaret deserves that much grace in her situation. Yes, its horrible, but that doesnt mean you can treat people horribly. I'm glad she was honest with Esse and took ownership of her feelings of jealousy that started down the road of Gus's disappearance.

Margaret was only honest with Essie when she was simultaneously asking for a huge favor. What is perhaps most annoying about both Hilary and Margaret's behavior is they think they are caring employers but actually they are quite selfish and thoughtless.

It was a JOB offer, not a request for a “favor.” Y’all have some weird takes.

True but she only apologized when she wanted something from Essie.

She actually had nothing to apologize for. Being jealous of your nanny’s connection with your kids is not actually a sin, nor is interviewing a new babysitter because you think the nanny may no longer be a good fit. The fact that she actually apologized TO ESSIE about that is going above and beyond. But there are a bunch of weird PPs acting as if she was somehow obligated to do this earlier. No, just no.

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Finally, someone normal! Margaret did nothing wrong. Should she have asked Essie to throw in a frozen pizza on her day off? No. But does doing so make her an evil, uncaring, horrible person? Nope. She was lovely to Essie throughout this story - as you said, she apologized to her for being jealous and she told her, very authentically, that she LOVED her. I liked Margaret and felt such incredible empathy for her.

If Margaret truly had any empathy she'd know Essie DGAF about her apology or being told she loved her. Essie's love language is food.

Hope you're trolling because that is such a stupid thing to say.

[Anonymous]

Great ending. Great acting. Thank you, Nicole Kidman! More limited series please!

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Anonymous wrote:Great ending. Great acting. Thank you, Nicole Kidman! More limited series please!

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It really was. Such a painful subject, but a very interesting look into a slice of life and a city we don't usually see on screen.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why the Korean American scholarship kid went to HK in the first place.
Did she have a finance job and get fired? Then just roamed around?

I don’t get her. She really solo chose to sabatoge her life and a child’s by her inertia for five mos and beyond. Can’t blame that on her mom.

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Anonymous wrote:Just watched the most recent episode, centered on the "helpers." Really powerful writing and cinematography. This is turning out to be one of the best series I've watched in a long time.

+1, I have not loved the season prior to this but knew this episode was coming based on reviews and am glad I hung on. It was beautifully shot and I loved the performances. Even though I could anticipate what was going to happen with both Puri and Essie at the end of the episode, I still felt such anger on their behalf. Especially Puri, as Hilary is such a manipulative user.

Margaret's total obliviousness to Essie's actual situation is also enraging but it's harder to get angry with her because she's understandably not thinking clearly because of Gus. Still, it was hard to think Essie might actually take her up on this plan to immigrate to the US out of concern for the family and especially the kids she's helped raise. It really highlights the difficulty of a job like this where you are an employee but everyone acts like you are "part of the family" (a very low status part of the family who must always be working, but an essential part of the family nonetheless).

I've heard so many people describe their nannies as "like family," I'm curious how people are responding to the Essie storyline. Do you ever wonder if you are creating unhealthy boundaries in the same way? I would wonder about this.

Yes but. That episode easily could be a Lost in Transltion.

Just because your hung over boss wakes up in a stupor and asks for an egg on your day off, does not mean you quit your music contest that day. She easily was too out of it and forgot. Plus you just told her the name of your Hs pregnant affair partner. Who lost your best friends child.

Likewise, Essie easily could have said she was getting too old or needed to go be a grandmother back home. But she didn’t. Did she feel too needed? Need the money? Prefer to remit money back home instead?