College Football--Big Ten Expansion

[Anonymous]

It just goes to show you that football rules televised sports at the collegiate level. The huge contracts are offered to conferences who excel in football. Basketball isn’t the draw that football is.

[Anonymous]

Will University of Arizona announce departure from Pac-12 tomorrow (Tuesday, August 1, 2023) ?

U Arizona to follow U Colorado to Big 12 ?

https://sportskeeda.com/college-football/cfb-insider-reveals-arizona-big-12-done-deal-drops-deadline-big-12-expansion-extending-14-programs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It just goes to show you that football rules televised sports at the collegiate level. The huge contracts are offered to conferences who excel in football. Basketball isn’t the draw that football is.

Agree, but the NCAA basketball tournament March Madness is a huge draw.

[Anonymous]

In 2036 when the GOR is up the big 12 and ACC will reorganize with teams shifting.

The Big Ten is only interested in Florida, Texas and Notre Dame at this point. The money per school is reduced with any other schools. Oregon, Washington or Arizona May be considered just to help geographically and maybe not lose too much money per school.

Colorado, Stanford, Cal, Arizona, Washington State, Oregon State, Arizona State, Iowa State, San Diego St, Byu, Utah, Kansas, Nevada, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, TCU, West Virginia, Connecticut, Texas Tech, Virginia, North Carolina, NC state, Virginia
Tech, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Miami, Pitt,

Will form a 28 team coast to coast conference.
It will be nice with an east and west divisions
The Dukes of the world will join the Big East.

The Big Ten and SEC will pull away money-wise. The Big Ten with huge alumni bases has adopted an NFL model rolling teams through major markets with huge big ten alumni populations….a genius strategy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In 2036 when the GOR is up the big 12 and ACC will reorganize with teams shifting.

The Big Ten is only interested in Florida, Texas and Notre Dame at this point. The money per school is reduced with any other schools. Oregon, Washington or Arizona May be considered just to help geographically and maybe not lose too much money per school.

Colorado, Stanford, Cal, Arizona, Washington State, Oregon State, Arizona State, Iowa State, San Diego St, Byu, Utah, Kansas, Nevada, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, TCU, West Virginia, Connecticut, Texas Tech, Virginia, North Carolina, NC state, Virginia
Tech, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Miami, Pitt,

Will form a 28 team coast to coast conference.
It will be nice with an east and west divisions
The Dukes of the world will join the Big East.

The Big Ten and SEC will pull away money-wise. The Big Ten with huge alumni bases has adopted an NFL model rolling teams through major markets with huge big ten alumni populations….a genius strategy.

Interesting thought. Probably accurate, but the Big Ten will offer U Oregon & U Washington to solidify west coast markets & to ease travel burden for USC & UCLA while preserving rivalries among those west coast schools.

Would be very difficult to pull U Florida from the SEC. Equally difficult to pull Texas into a conference without arch-rival U Oklahoma.

Notre Dame is the available & most coveted target school.

If Big Ten offers U Washington & U Oregon, then adds Notre Dame, which would be the fourth additional school invited to join the Big Ten ? (Would the Big Ten Conference entice Notre Dame to join by allowing ND to name one of its rivals as the fourth school ?)

Could Texas be persuaded ?

Could U Florida get mad at SEC for admitting FSU and/or U Miami and leave for the Big Ten Conference ?

[Anonymous]

When USC & UCLA join the Big Ten Conference next year, the Big Ten Conference will have 16 member schools.

While most commentators talk about two mega conferences (Big Ten & SEC) composed of 20 schools each, my thought is that each mega-conference will each have 24 member schools, not 20.

[Anonymous]

How does the Big Ten Conference grow to 24 member schools ?

Add U Washington & U Oregon to get to 18 member schools, but then which would be the next 6 schools to be invited to join ?

Notre Dame for certain, but that leaves room for 5 more. Any thoughts as to which 5 universities would be solid additions to the Big Ten Conference to get to 24 member schools ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In 2036 when the GOR is up the big 12 and ACC will reorganize with teams shifting.

The Big Ten is only interested in Florida, Texas and Notre Dame at this point. The money per school is reduced with any other schools. Oregon, Washington or Arizona May be considered just to help geographically and maybe not lose too much money per school.

Colorado, Stanford, Cal, Arizona, Washington State, Oregon State, Arizona State, Iowa State, San Diego St, Byu, Utah, Kansas, Nevada, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, TCU, West Virginia, Connecticut, Texas Tech, Virginia, North Carolina, NC state, Virginia
Tech, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Miami, Pitt,

Will form a 28 team coast to coast conference.
It will be nice with an east and west divisions
The Dukes of the world will join the Big East.

The Big Ten and SEC will pull away money-wise. The Big Ten with huge alumni bases has adopted an NFL model rolling teams through major markets with huge big ten alumni populations….a genius strategy.

Interesting thought. Probably accurate, but the Big Ten will offer U Oregon & U Washington to solidify west coast markets & to ease travel burden for USC & UCLA while preserving rivalries among those west coast schools.

Would be very difficult to pull U Florida from the SEC. Equally difficult to pull Texas into a conference without arch-rival U Oklahoma.

Notre Dame is the available & most coveted target school.

If Big Ten offers U Washington & U Oregon, then adds Notre Dame, which would be the fourth additional school invited to join the Big Ten ? (Would the Big Ten Conference entice Notre Dame to join by allowing ND to name one of its rivals as the fourth school ?)

Could Texas be persuaded ?

Could U Florida get mad at SEC for admitting FSU and/or U Miami and leave for the Big Ten Conference ?

Florida and Texas could be persuaded.. the big ten already pays more money than the SEC and has greater academic rep. Both those schools fit culturally.

[Anonymous]

Berkeley and Stanford for sure. The prestige is too great and there will be a need for most west coast teams. The other three will be top schools in the east. UNC, Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami (if they clean up their act) for example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In 2036 when the GOR is up the big 12 and ACC will reorganize with teams shifting.

The Big Ten is only interested in Florida, Texas and Notre Dame at this point. The money per school is reduced with any other schools. Oregon, Washington or Arizona May be considered just to help geographically and maybe not lose too much money per school.

Colorado, Stanford, Cal, Arizona, Washington State, Oregon State, Arizona State, Iowa State, San Diego St, Byu, Utah, Kansas, Nevada, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, TCU, West Virginia, Connecticut, Texas Tech, Virginia, North Carolina, NC state, Virginia
Tech, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Miami, Pitt,

Will form a 28 team coast to coast conference.
It will be nice with an east and west divisions
The Dukes of the world will join the Big East.

The Big Ten and SEC will pull away money-wise. The Big Ten with huge alumni bases has adopted an NFL model rolling teams through major markets with huge big ten alumni populations….a genius strategy.

Interesting thought. Probably accurate, but the Big Ten will offer U Oregon & U Washington to solidify west coast markets & to ease travel burden for USC & UCLA while preserving rivalries among those west coast schools.

Would be very difficult to pull U Florida from the SEC. Equally difficult to pull Texas into a conference without arch-rival U Oklahoma.

Notre Dame is the available & most coveted target school.

If Big Ten offers U Washington & U Oregon, then adds Notre Dame, which would be the fourth additional school invited to join the Big Ten ? (Would the Big Ten Conference entice Notre Dame to join by allowing ND to name one of its rivals as the fourth school ?)

Could Texas be persuaded ?

Could U Florida get mad at SEC for admitting FSU and/or U Miami and leave for the Big Ten Conference ?

Florida and Texas could be persuaded.. the big ten already pays more money than the SEC and has greater academic rep. Both those schools fit culturally.

Would be an incredible development if the Big Ten could get the University of Texas to join.

If the Big Ten Conference added Texas & Notre Dame, then further expansion might be unnecessary in addition to U Washington & U Oregon. Twenty member schools would be enough and revenues from media rights would soar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In 2036 when the GOR is up the big 12 and ACC will reorganize with teams shifting.

The Big Ten is only interested in Florida, Texas and Notre Dame at this point. The money per school is reduced with any other schools. Oregon, Washington or Arizona May be considered just to help geographically and maybe not lose too much money per school.

Colorado, Stanford, Cal, Arizona, Washington State, Oregon State, Arizona State, Iowa State, San Diego St, Byu, Utah, Kansas, Nevada, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, TCU, West Virginia, Connecticut, Texas Tech, Virginia, North Carolina, NC state, Virginia
Tech, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Miami, Pitt,

Will form a 28 team coast to coast conference.
It will be nice with an east and west divisions
The Dukes of the world will join the Big East.

The Big Ten and SEC will pull away money-wise. The Big Ten with huge alumni bases has adopted an NFL model rolling teams through major markets with huge big ten alumni populations….a genius strategy.

Interesting thought. Probably accurate, but the Big Ten will offer U Oregon & U Washington to solidify west coast markets & to ease travel burden for USC & UCLA while preserving rivalries among those west coast schools.

Would be very difficult to pull U Florida from the SEC. Equally difficult to pull Texas into a conference without arch-rival U Oklahoma.

Notre Dame is the available & most coveted target school.

If Big Ten offers U Washington & U Oregon, then adds Notre Dame, which would be the fourth additional school invited to join the Big Ten ? (Would the Big Ten Conference entice Notre Dame to join by allowing ND to name one of its rivals as the fourth school ?)

Could Texas be persuaded ?

Could U Florida get mad at SEC for admitting FSU and/or U Miami and leave for the Big Ten Conference ?

Florida and Texas could be persuaded.. the big ten already pays more money than the SEC and has greater academic rep. Both those schools fit culturally.

Texas just jumped ship, they’re not going to the Big Ten anytime soon. Florida would fit, with Miami I suppose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Berkeley and Stanford for sure. The prestige is too great and there will be a need for most west coast teams. The other three will be top schools in the east. UNC, Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami (if they clean up their act) for example.

Good thoughts, but not sure that Duke brings enough to the table. Georgia Tech is attractive due to academics & a major media market in a top state for football recruits.

Maybe NC State instead of Duke ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Berkeley and Stanford for sure. The prestige is too great and there will be a need for most west coast teams. The other three will be top schools in the east. UNC, Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami (if they clean up their act) for example.

Good thoughts, but not sure that Duke brings enough to the table. Georgia Tech is attractive due to academics & a major media market in a top state for football recruits.

Maybe NC State instead of Duke ?

It would be for the academics more than the athletics. Also for the natural rivalry with UNC as a counter to UCLA and USC. No way will NC State be offered. They aren’t in the AAU.

[Anonymous]

I don’t think Virginia, North Carolina will be added to the B1G. Virginia has issues 1) the grant of rights killer 2) not a big enough alumni base 3) NOVA big ten alumni have their teams running through UMD inside the beltway 4) no way politically to leave larger Virginia Tech behind. Same goes for North Carolina except the proximity to UMD issue. North Carolina has the same issue with larger NC state… not enough alumni and grant of rights.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Berkeley and Stanford for sure. The prestige is too great and there will be a need for most west coast teams. The other three will be top schools in the east. UNC, Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami (if they clean up their act) for example.

Good thoughts, but not sure that Duke brings enough to the table. Georgia Tech is attractive due to academics & a major media market in a top state for football recruits.

Maybe NC State instead of Duke ?

It would be for the academics more than the athletics. Also for the natural rivalry with UNC as a counter to UCLA and USC. No way will NC State be offered. They aren’t in the AAU.

I think that you are right.