Is Karen considered a racial slur?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a middle aged white woman and do not consider it a racial slur. Karens are busybodies and misdemeanor vigilantes against minorities. Not sure why other middle age women want to defend this behavior and label it racist?

When did this become part of the Karen stereotype? I’m a middle aged white woman and when I first started hearing the term, I took it as a light hearted stereotype of a certain type of demanding woman. It always seemed as if the term were meant to be comical and not taken too seriously. All of a sudden it morphed into something much more sinister. That Karen was a racist who went after minorities. This wasn’t part of the original use was it?

It’s not a demanding woman. It is a woman asserting her privilege(many times it’s white woman privilege) and putting others around her in their place. It’s the contempt and distain for anyone who they view as lesser(which is everyone).

*disdain

Why attach a common name to this? Because it is an easy way to denigrate middle-aged women who simply don’t matter anymore. Why can’t you see this?

Dp. They can’t see it because they are too ingrained in a system that diminishes women, while denying it’s happening. Kinda like systemic racism.. systemic misogyny is alive and well, but apparently more tolerated by DCUM.

Please if you don’t matter and are displaced why are you comfortable acting like you have special privileges vs everyone else? People are not calling a random white woman “Karen”. They are calling out the(usually) white, upper class woman who is going out of her way to enforce her privilege and entitlement.

Exactly. It’s about the bad behavior.

Then use a word describing the behavior. How hard is this?

There isn’t a word for that specific behavior.

Oh please. That’s just stupid. There are 600,000 words in the English language. If you can’t come up with anything other than “Karen”, you’re just not very bright.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. It's only used with regard to white women. If its not racist, please let me know what I can call a similarly situated black, hispanic, asian, etc. woman.

It's not racist, and you can call them Karen if they're being a Karen. You can even call a dude Karen. Everyone will understand what you mean. Can we get back to real problems now?

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And we can call you a racist for slinging around slurs. Sound good?

It’s not racist.

It is and you know it.

It’s not racist at all FFS. Do you even know what racism means? Sexism? Get a dictionary.

+1 people upset about the word Karen need to get over themselves. And I'm a middle aged white woman. Treat people with kindness, and you're fine.

Since when do we tell people to get over offenses? It's not kind to use a disparaging people have asked one not to use. Try to be kinder since you care about kindness.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. It's only used with regard to white women. If its not racist, please let me know what I can call a similarly situated black, hispanic, asian, etc. woman.

It's not racist, and you can call them Karen if they're being a Karen. You can even call a dude Karen. Everyone will understand what you mean. Can we get back to real problems now?

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And we can call you a racist for slinging around slurs. Sound good?

It’s not racist.

It is and you know it.

It’s not racist at all FFS. Do you even know what racism means? Sexism? Get a dictionary.

+1 people upset about the word Karen need to get over themselves. And I'm a middle aged white woman. Treat people with kindness, and you're fine.

Since when do we tell people to get over offenses? It's not kind to use a disparaging people have asked one not to use. Try to be kinder since you care about kindness.

+1. Disparaging a specific population by using a name given to lots of women, is not “kind”. Just stop using this stupid phrase and come up with a better way to describe the behavior that offends you.

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Anonymous wrote:If a server hands you an incorrect or incomplete order, of course you should ask to have it corrected. If the server is of another race, how is that racist? The whole thing is ridiculous.

Again, it all depends on how you interact with people. Ask nicely and don’t talk down to anyone and you’ll be fine.

Don't be an uppity woman, eh?

Don’t be a rude MFer.

Or try to rent an available bike to get home from work from an entitled teen? How does that fit?

Was this the nurse person? Probably rude.

Of course they weren't. It's not rude to rent an available bike. Obviously.

I don’t know the details but people can behave in many different ways.

Wow, what an astute obeservation. Thanks for sharing your deep thoughts.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a middle aged white woman and do not consider it a racial slur. Karens are busybodies and misdemeanor vigilantes against minorities. Not sure why other middle age women want to defend this behavior and label it racist?

When did this become part of the Karen stereotype? I’m a middle aged white woman and when I first started hearing the term, I took it as a light hearted stereotype of a certain type of demanding woman. It always seemed as if the term were meant to be comical and not taken too seriously. All of a sudden it morphed into something much more sinister. That Karen was a racist who went after minorities. This wasn’t part of the original use was it?

It’s not a demanding woman. It is a woman asserting her privilege(many times it’s white woman privilege) and putting others around her in their place. It’s the contempt and distain for anyone who they view as lesser(which is everyone).

*disdain

Why attach a common name to this? Because it is an easy way to denigrate middle-aged women who simply don’t matter anymore. Why can’t you see this?

Dp. They can’t see it because they are too ingrained in a system that diminishes women, while denying it’s happening. Kinda like systemic racism.. systemic misogyny is alive and well, but apparently more tolerated by DCUM.

Please if you don’t matter and are displaced why are you comfortable acting like you have special privileges vs everyone else? People are not calling a random white woman “Karen”. They are calling out the(usually) white, upper class woman who is going out of her way to enforce her privilege and entitlement.

Exactly. It’s about the bad behavior.

Then use a word describing the behavior. How hard is this?

There isn’t a word for that specific behavior.

Oh please. That’s just stupid. There are 600,000 words in the English language. If you can’t come up with anything other than “Karen”, you’re just not very bright.

I can make something up but the point was the word doesn’t exist today.

“ call the manager ” is too long.

[Anonymous]

All this fuss makes me want to use it more. Maybe if more white women feel the oppression they are both perpetrators and victims of, they'll stop aligning themselves with white supremacy and actually help us dismantle it.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a middle aged white woman and do not consider it a racial slur. Karens are busybodies and misdemeanor vigilantes against minorities. Not sure why other middle age women want to defend this behavior and label it racist?

When did this become part of the Karen stereotype? I’m a middle aged white woman and when I first started hearing the term, I took it as a light hearted stereotype of a certain type of demanding woman. It always seemed as if the term were meant to be comical and not taken too seriously. All of a sudden it morphed into something much more sinister. That Karen was a racist who went after minorities. This wasn’t part of the original use was it?

It’s not a demanding woman. It is a woman asserting her privilege(many times it’s white woman privilege) and putting others around her in their place. It’s the contempt and distain for anyone who they view as lesser(which is everyone).

*disdain

Why attach a common name to this? Because it is an easy way to denigrate middle-aged women who simply don’t matter anymore. Why can’t you see this?

Dp. They can’t see it because they are too ingrained in a system that diminishes women, while denying it’s happening. Kinda like systemic racism.. systemic misogyny is alive and well, but apparently more tolerated by DCUM.

Please if you don’t matter and are displaced why are you comfortable acting like you have special privileges vs everyone else? People are not calling a random white woman “Karen”. They are calling out the(usually) white, upper class woman who is going out of her way to enforce her privilege and entitlement.

Exactly. It’s about the bad behavior.

Then use a word describing the behavior. How hard is this?

There isn’t a word for that specific behavior.

Oh please. That’s just stupid. There are 600,000 words in the English language. If you can’t come up with anything other than “Karen”, you’re just not very bright.

I can make something up but the point was the word doesn’t exist today.

“ call the manager ” is too long.

Wow so disparaging women is just easier than using three words, so why not do it. You people have really bought in to your misogyny. It’s startling.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. It's only used with regard to white women. If its not racist, please let me know what I can call a similarly situated black, hispanic, asian, etc. woman.

It's not racist, and you can call them Karen if they're being a Karen. You can even call a dude Karen. Everyone will understand what you mean. Can we get back to real problems now?

+1

And we can call you a racist for slinging around slurs. Sound good?

It’s not racist.

It is and you know it.

It’s not racist at all FFS. Do you even know what racism means? Sexism? Get a dictionary.

+1 people upset about the word Karen need to get over themselves. And I'm a middle aged white woman. Treat people with kindness, and you're fine.

Since when do we tell people to get over offenses? It's not kind to use a disparaging people have asked one not to use. Try to be kinder since you care about kindness.

+1. Disparaging a specific population by using a name given to lots of women, is not “kind”. Just stop using this stupid phrase and come up with a better way to describe the behavior that offends you.

Stop labeling my offensive behavior in ways that offend me!

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Anonymous wrote:If a server hands you an incorrect or incomplete order, of course you should ask to have it corrected. If the server is of another race, how is that racist? The whole thing is ridiculous.

Again, it all depends on how you interact with people. Ask nicely and don’t talk down to anyone and you’ll be fine.

Don't be an uppity woman, eh?

Don’t be a rude MFer.

Or try to rent an available bike to get home from work from an entitled teen? How does that fit?

Was this the nurse person? Probably rude.

Of course they weren't. It's not rude to rent an available bike. Obviously.

I don’t know the details but people can behave in many different ways.

Wow, what an astute obeservation. Thanks for sharing your deep thoughts.

So if she was being entitled and abusive to this kid when she was trying to rent a bike then it’s not surprising that he called her a Karen.

“Rent an available bike” tells us nothing about her words or tone.

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Anonymous wrote:All this fuss makes me want to use it more. Maybe if more white women feel the oppression they are both perpetrators and victims of, they'll stop aligning themselves with white supremacy and actually help us dismantle it.

White women will just report you to the manager for your micro aggressions and perhaps call the police on you if you escalate. What comes around goes around. Hope you don't get caught doing it at work.

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I hate the term Karen, but the way the word "entitled" has come to be used bothers me more. The connotation of that word is negative, usually used when someone thinks they deserve special privileges or treatment for no reason. Acting as of you are deserving of special treatment is entitled and annoying.

Asking for the food you ordered, for basic rules to be observed (like quiet hours or no smoking at a hotel), or to not have someone screaming in your face is not entitled.

It's funny to me that people hate Karens who complain about rules that apply to everyone being broken. Isn't it more entitled to think the rules don't apply to you?

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Anonymous wrote:If a server hands you an incorrect or incomplete order, of course you should ask to have it corrected. If the server is of another race, how is that racist? The whole thing is ridiculous.

Again, it all depends on how you interact with people. Ask nicely and don’t talk down to anyone and you’ll be fine.

Don't be an uppity woman, eh?

Don’t be a rude MFer.

Or try to rent an available bike to get home from work from an entitled teen? How does that fit?

Was this the nurse person? Probably rude.

Of course they weren't. It's not rude to rent an available bike. Obviously.

I don’t know the details but people can behave in many different ways.

Wow, what an astute obeservation. Thanks for sharing your deep thoughts.

So if she was being entitled and abusive to this kid when she was trying to rent a bike then it’s not surprising that he called her a Karen.

“Rent an available bike” tells us nothing about her words or tone.

Sorry you live under a rock.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a middle aged white woman and do not consider it a racial slur. Karens are busybodies and misdemeanor vigilantes against minorities. Not sure why other middle age women want to defend this behavior and label it racist?

When did this become part of the Karen stereotype? I’m a middle aged white woman and when I first started hearing the term, I took it as a light hearted stereotype of a certain type of demanding woman. It always seemed as if the term were meant to be comical and not taken too seriously. All of a sudden it morphed into something much more sinister. That Karen was a racist who went after minorities. This wasn’t part of the original use was it?

It’s not a demanding woman. It is a woman asserting her privilege(many times it’s white woman privilege) and putting others around her in their place. It’s the contempt and distain for anyone who they view as lesser(which is everyone).

*disdain

Why attach a common name to this? Because it is an easy way to denigrate middle-aged women who simply don’t matter anymore. Why can’t you see this?

Dp. They can’t see it because they are too ingrained in a system that diminishes women, while denying it’s happening. Kinda like systemic racism.. systemic misogyny is alive and well, but apparently more tolerated by DCUM.

Please if you don’t matter and are displaced why are you comfortable acting like you have special privileges vs everyone else? People are not calling a random white woman “Karen”. They are calling out the(usually) white, upper class woman who is going out of her way to enforce her privilege and entitlement.

Exactly. It’s about the bad behavior.

Then use a word describing the behavior. How hard is this?

There isn’t a word for that specific behavior.

Oh please. That’s just stupid. There are 600,000 words in the English language. If you can’t come up with anything other than “Karen”, you’re just not very bright.

I can make something up but the point was the word doesn’t exist today.

“ call the manager ” is too long.

Wow so disparaging women is just easier than using three words, so why not do it. You people have really bought in to your misogyny. It’s startling.

Oh no, are you going to call the manager?

See - it’s just too awkward and doesn’t work in all scenarios.

It’s not misogyny. It’s not racism. It’s calling out bad behavior.

[Anonymous]

A Karen is someone who is entitled and a biatch. She can be any race really. There are non-white women who are Karens, trust me .....

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Anonymous wrote:All this fuss makes me want to use it more. Maybe if more white women feel the oppression they are both perpetrators and victims of, they'll stop aligning themselves with white supremacy and actually help us dismantle it.

White women will just report you to the manager for your micro aggressions and perhaps call the police on you if you escalate. What comes around goes around. Hope you don't get caught doing it at work.

I'm not dumb enough to think white women are my friends, at work or otherwise. Beware of the Karens is potentially life saving advice I will continue to give my kids. Those ladies may seem nice enough, but crossing them could get you killed. Learn to identify and avoid.