Airplane noise concerns overblown?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One of the persons in question self-identified and in my opinion they are an upstanding citizen for speaking up. In a fair world, they’d get some sort of citizen hero award.
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His dogged persistence single-handedly increased the number of noise complaints in DC by an astounding number, though he rejected the notion that he had personally sent 6,500. He spent countless evenings and weekends in 2015 filing noise complaint after noise complaint, like someone who has the bad fortune of moving in next to a rowdy fraternity house.
“This is already as I am describing it, you can have the flavor, a full-time job,”, a resident of Washington, DC, said.
It wasn’t always like this. In the 2010s, when he moved his family from to Washington, DC, he thought his wooded neighborhood was idyllic. He bought the house knowing full well there would be some noise overhead, but at the time it wasn’t something to complain about. And then it got worse.
Shortly after he moved, Reagan International shifted to a new flight navigation system known as NextGen. This multi-billion-dollar upgrade was developed to help cut carbon emissions and reduce how much fuel is used by providing airline pilots with more direct routes between origin and destination. The NextGen system plotted a new route for planes coming in and out of the DC airport that was closer to his backyard.
“From my bedroom I can see all the planes, and I can very easily identify them by sight,” he said. “However, I can also identify them by the noise,” he added.
The Boeing 737’s are the worst. He compared the engine noise to having a vacuum cleaner next to your bedside. “Can you sleep when a vacuum cleaner is turned on?” he asked. “You cannot. You wake up.”
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BUYER BEWARE but also support your neighbors who are doing the right thing

I know this person and the story quite well. He was not a martyr but I a former astronaut who was hoping to start an air quality monitoring business out of the situation.

[Anonymous]

If this was as big of a problem as this board makes it out to be, the homes is Palisades would simply not continuously sell for as much as they do. We recently moved away from the area. It was nothing compared to the helicopters you constantly hear on the Hill (where we lived previously), which was also fine. I don’t get this fixation.

[Anonymous]

Will there be a cliff-point where that first house doesn’t sell? And then the values tank? I mean there’s been several now that have been pulled or it took well over a year in a strong seller’s market to go contingent. There have been several that kicked out of the contract. As the market turns, buyers become more picky. It’s pretty bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the persons in question self-identified and in my opinion they are an upstanding citizen for speaking up. In a fair world, they’d get some sort of citizen hero award.
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His dogged persistence single-handedly increased the number of noise complaints in DC by an astounding number, though he rejected the notion that he had personally sent 6,500. He spent countless evenings and weekends in 2015 filing noise complaint after noise complaint, like someone who has the bad fortune of moving in next to a rowdy fraternity house.
“This is already as I am describing it, you can have the flavor, a full-time job,”, a resident of Washington, DC, said.
It wasn’t always like this. In the 2010s, when he moved his family from to Washington, DC, he thought his wooded neighborhood was idyllic. He bought the house knowing full well there would be some noise overhead, but at the time it wasn’t something to complain about. And then it got worse.
Shortly after he moved, Reagan International shifted to a new flight navigation system known as NextGen. This multi-billion-dollar upgrade was developed to help cut carbon emissions and reduce how much fuel is used by providing airline pilots with more direct routes between origin and destination. The NextGen system plotted a new route for planes coming in and out of the DC airport that was closer to his backyard.
“From my bedroom I can see all the planes, and I can very easily identify them by sight,” he said. “However, I can also identify them by the noise,” he added.
The Boeing 737’s are the worst. He compared the engine noise to having a vacuum cleaner next to your bedside. “Can you sleep when a vacuum cleaner is turned on?” he asked. “You cannot. You wake up.”
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BUYER BEWARE but also support your neighbors who are doing the right thing

I know this person and the story quite well. He was not a martyr but I a former astronaut who was hoping to start an air quality monitoring business out of the situation.

But there are several stories just like that. Some people moved. They can’t all be lying or trying to profit? It’s objectively a lot of planes and noise.

[Anonymous]

We looked at a house on Macarthur. Luckily not on a Sunday, like weekday rush hour. Maybe it was weirdly positioned but it felt like that Keanu movie with a bus. There were lights and rumbling and pitchy roaring coming at you from the air and from the ground. We ran out of there. The house sold for asking. I think people just don’t get it yet and there’s very little inventory

[Anonymous]

There seem to be a lot of people on this thread with actual scientific knowledge about the health consequences of small particle pollution. Can someone tell me about the health risks associated with living directly on a busy urban road like Connecticut or Wisconsin? From what I'm reading, it looks as harmful as living by 495 yet you don't hear people talking about the health risks from non-highway (yet still very heavily traveled) 6 lane urban roads. In some ways it seems worse that cars are sitting at stop lights alone those busy city throughfares.

[Anonymous]

I’m a many-pages-ago PP who said we moved because of NexGen and really thoroughly vetted areas to move. I can tell you 100% this is a thing and we made the right choice. I was a Whitman HS today and the planes were 2-3 minutes apart, on the exact same path, close enough that I could read the airline name and count windows through this dreary weather. Glad we did not move to that area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just can’t imagine moving near an airport and being annoyed I’m hearing airplanes 🤣🤣

I don’t live near the airport. I live near the river.

And if you had bothered to look up at any point in the home buying process you would have seen that the river is a major flight path. I moved here 30 yeras ago for college at Georgetown and it was a flight path then. It was probably the same for decades before that. You messed up. It's not anyone else's fault but yours. If you can't live with it, then sell the house and move. The rest of the world does not have to change to accommodate your selfish desires.

??? This was my first post on this thread, but I share the frustration of other posters who are sick of the escalating noise pollution from the airplanes. I was simply stating that I’m not actually very close to the airport, which was the assumption of the other poster who was mocking people who complain about airplane noise.

[Anonymous]

For some comic relief, real life English satire about both sides of the coin in the pandemic house buying close to an airport.

Admittedly, amongst the excitement, I almost fell victim to the alluring lustre of the current property market and one of its many traps. I nearly got lumbered with a toxic wasteland and mutant children, but all for a fair price. [this last part on the flight path discount doesn’t apply to DC somehow]

Lesson learned.

Did anyone else notice the voracious influx of properties near or on a flight path that shot up for sale in the thick of the pandemic? Holy moly!

All rather logical, mind you. Anyone that has been wanting to flog a property on a hideous flight path has been gifted with a once in a lifetime opportunity. Selling those buggers to anyone with ample hearing is tough on any given day, so if you’re going to attempt to pull off the heist of the century, there’s certainly no better time to do it than when the entire aviation industry has gone tits-up [with the vast majority of planes grounded]!
Have I ever told you that I live in Hertfordshire, near Stansted Airport (but far enough away from the flight path to avoid having to cut my ears off)?
I have, but you never listen.
It’s a lovely part of the world; it provides pleasant rural, country Bumpkin living, but also an ease of access to the buzzing capital and the world of black boogers! It’s great.

https://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/buying-a-house-on-a-flight-path/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a many-pages-ago PP who said we moved because of NexGen and really thoroughly vetted areas to move. I can tell you 100% this is a thing and we made the right choice. I was a Whitman HS today and the planes were 2-3 minutes apart, on the exact same path, close enough that I could read the airline name and count windows through this dreary weather. Glad we did not move to that area.

That’s the thing a lot of these idiots don’t understand — it ain’t just palisades. Burning tree for example has gotten ruined by the flight path too as an example. Straight over Hilton Arms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For some comic relief, real life English satire about both sides of the coin in the pandemic house buying close to an airport.

Admittedly, amongst the excitement, I almost fell victim to the alluring lustre of the current property market and one of its many traps. I nearly got lumbered with a toxic wasteland and mutant children, but all for a fair price. [this last part on the flight path discount doesn’t apply to DC somehow]

Lesson learned.

Did anyone else notice the voracious influx of properties near or on a flight path that shot up for sale in the thick of the pandemic? Holy moly!

All rather logical, mind you. Anyone that has been wanting to flog a property on a hideous flight path has been gifted with a once in a lifetime opportunity. Selling those buggers to anyone with ample hearing is tough on any given day, so if you’re going to attempt to pull off the heist of the century, there’s certainly no better time to do it than when the entire aviation industry has gone tits-up [with the vast majority of planes grounded]!
Have I ever told you that I live in Hertfordshire, near Stansted Airport (but far enough away from the flight path to avoid having to cut my ears off)?
I have, but you never listen.
It’s a lovely part of the world; it provides pleasant rural, country Bumpkin living, but also an ease of access to the buzzing capital and the world of black boogers! It’s great.

https://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/buying-a-house-on-a-flight-path/

Mate, why don't you go bugger off to some UK-centric thread? Why are you wasting your time here?

[Anonymous]

How do you find out where the flight paths are? Is the a map where you can see them or a website where you can enter an address to check?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How do you find out where the flight paths are? Is the a map where you can see them or a website where you can enter an address to check?

Use the Flight Aware app.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a many-pages-ago PP who said we moved because of NexGen and really thoroughly vetted areas to move. I can tell you 100% this is a thing and we made the right choice. I was a Whitman HS today and the planes were 2-3 minutes apart, on the exact same path, close enough that I could read the airline name and count windows through this dreary weather. Glad we did not move to that area.

For the 1,000x time - nobody cares about the miniscule amount of noise, or "pollution", except for a tiny percentage of (usually much older) people. Why do you think these zip codes are still the most expensive in the area?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If this was as big of a problem as this board makes it out to be, the homes is Palisades would simply not continuously sell for as much as they do. We recently moved away from the area. It was nothing compared to the helicopters you constantly hear on the Hill (where we lived previously), which was also fine. I don’t get this fixation.

Is it your contention that it doesn’t diminish the value of those homes?