Airplane noise concerns overblown?

[Anonymous]

Myth: People Can’t Move Near Airports And Then Complain About Airplane Noise

Reality:
This statement indicates a fundamental lack of understanding about what NextGen has actually done. Post-NextGen, communities 20, 30, and 40 miles from airports have been bombarded with constant airplane noise. NextGen brings airplanes into airports in flightpaths at far lower elevations that they used to fly, in a continuous stream for 18+ hours a day.

People who have been living in their homes for 30+ years who only heard the occasional plane woke up one morning to suddenly not being able to open their windows due to constant air and noise pollution. These people didn’t “move” near an airport – the FAA decided to make their home part of the runway, with no notice or warning.

[before you yell at me, it’s from the nextgen website]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Myth: People Can’t Move Near Airports And Then Complain About Airplane Noise

Reality:
This statement indicates a fundamental lack of understanding about what NextGen has actually done. Post-NextGen, communities 20, 30, and 40 miles from airports have been bombarded with constant airplane noise. NextGen brings airplanes into airports in flightpaths at far lower elevations that they used to fly, in a continuous stream for 18+ hours a day.

People who have been living in their homes for 30+ years who only heard the occasional plane woke up one morning to suddenly not being able to open their windows due to constant air and noise pollution. These people didn’t “move” near an airport – the FAA decided to make their home part of the runway, with no notice or warning.

[before you yell at me, it’s from the nextgen website]

You mean it's from the website of an activist group. And it's predictably full of lies.

[Anonymous]

I don’t think it’s full of lies. Why would it be? What are you a real estate agent? The testimonies of people when I checked out that link were heartbreaking. Quite honestly, in my personal opinion based on what I see and hear, huge swathes of the Palisades and Foxhall don’t comport with any and certainly not with healthy living.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s full of lies. Why would it be? What are you a real estate agent? The testimonies of people when I checked out that link were heartbreaking. Quite honestly, in my personal opinion based on what I see and hear, huge swathes of the Palisades and Foxhall don’t comport with any and certainly not with healthy living.

Are you the person who files thousands of noise complaints every year?

[Anonymous]

I’ve never filed one because it’s really a drag. The person who did is part of the community effort. Citizen groups have a designated person because it’s so time consuming. Instead of thanking this person, the neighbors attacked him and tried to find out his identity. Kind of terrible, no?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just can’t imagine moving near an airport and being annoyed I’m hearing airplanes 🤣🤣

I don’t live near the airport. I live near the river.

And if you had bothered to look up at any point in the home buying process you would have seen that the river is a major flight path. I moved here 30 yeras ago for college at Georgetown and it was a flight path then. It was probably the same for decades before that. You messed up. It's not anyone else's fault but yours. If you can't live with it, then sell the house and move. The rest of the world does not have to change to accommodate your selfish desires.

Yeah I’ve lived in this area for forty years and can’t remember a time when the river was not the approach path to DCA. The runways are literally out in the river so not sure how it would be otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve never filed one because it’s really a drag. The person who did is part of the community effort. Citizen groups have a designated person because it’s so time consuming. Instead of thanking this person, the neighbors attacked him and tried to find out his identity. Kind of terrible, no?

Interesting how you have such detailed info on this person…

[Anonymous]

Interesting how you are so narrow-minded, like a … unscrupulous real estate agent?

[Anonymous]

One of the persons in question self-identified and in my opinion they are an upstanding citizen for speaking up. In a fair world, they’d get some sort of citizen hero award.
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His dogged persistence single-handedly increased the number of noise complaints in DC by an astounding number, though he rejected the notion that he had personally sent 6,500. He spent countless evenings and weekends in 2015 filing noise complaint after noise complaint, like someone who has the bad fortune of moving in next to a rowdy fraternity house.
“This is already as I am describing it, you can have the flavor, a full-time job,”, a resident of Washington, DC, said.
It wasn’t always like this. In the 2010s, when he moved his family from to Washington, DC, he thought his wooded neighborhood was idyllic. He bought the house knowing full well there would be some noise overhead, but at the time it wasn’t something to complain about. And then it got worse.
Shortly after he moved, Reagan International shifted to a new flight navigation system known as NextGen. This multi-billion-dollar upgrade was developed to help cut carbon emissions and reduce how much fuel is used by providing airline pilots with more direct routes between origin and destination. The NextGen system plotted a new route for planes coming in and out of the DC airport that was closer to his backyard.
“From my bedroom I can see all the planes, and I can very easily identify them by sight,” he said. “However, I can also identify them by the noise,” he added.
The Boeing 737’s are the worst. He compared the engine noise to having a vacuum cleaner next to your bedside. “Can you sleep when a vacuum cleaner is turned on?” he asked. “You cannot. You wake up.”
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BUYER BEWARE but also support your neighbors who are doing the right thing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting how you are so narrow-minded, like a … unscrupulous real estate agent?

Don’t forget your tinfoil hat!

[Anonymous]

And this is true:

He spent thousands of dollars installing half-inch-thick windows throughout his house. But his efforts to mitigate the low frequencies emitted from plane engines were futile. He says the sounds can get up to 80 decibels (the legal nighttime noise limit in Washington, DC is 55 decibels) and penetrate walls and windows.
When replacing his windows didn’t work, he started sending noise complaints to the Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority (MWAA). Very detailed complaints.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting how you are so narrow-minded, like a … unscrupulous real estate agent?

Don’t forget your tinfoil hat!

Touché. What a wit you are (not). You have no counterargument because you know people who are complaining are telling the truth. Mandatory disclosures and tougher real estate market should clean up the ranks in your industry so we can get back to trying to make thing better vs. rushing to punk the next unsuspecting buyer.

Show me the data that says anything shared here is untrue? Are there not 100s of planes? Are they not flying low? Are they not breaking 65db? I’m sure we’d all love to hear the great news only you apparently know.

[Anonymous]

I’ll weigh in to say that the man with the alleged “tinfoil hat” (shame on you) is a NASA expert and a highly rational and accomplished human being. I’m not his friend or anything but I do admire his honesty and courage.

[Anonymous]

By the way, we still don’t know who filed the most complaints. And from what I read here they have a good reason to keep their identity quiet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ll weigh in to say that the man with the alleged “tinfoil hat” (shame on you) is a NASA expert and a highly rational and accomplished human being. I’m not his friend or anything but I do admire his honesty and courage.

Do you always write about yourself in the third person? Or is this some sort of multiple personality disorder?