Cops in TX tackle & block desperate parents, while they let shooter rampage thru the school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know what would solve this problem? Police in schools. OH we have police in schools? Well then, MORE police in schools. Maybe we should just make schools into police stations. That will solve our problems!

The school had no resource officer on premise, armed or otherwise.

I guarantee you that if there was a proper perimeter fence, locked doors and and armed resource officer, as well as signs posted saying that adults on premise were armed and ready to engage, the shooting would never have happened. These cowards go for easy targets. Stop making things easier for them WHILE you work on legislation.

You want to treat the symptoms without getting to the cause. Easy access to weapons of mass destruction.

Treating the cause takes time. It’s also not nearly as easy.

[Anonymous]

I thought w the confer block walls and fire safe heavy locked door even Bartoc unit needed advanced ways to enter the classroom.

Unclear in the window situation from outside.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the police are armed and refuse to go in, why do they exist at all? We’re getting flooded with conservative f sticks who want to distract both from the despair over our gun laws and this unbelievable example of police cowardice/indifference.

It’s not being an armchair expert to believe your own eyes and ears at this point.

Agreed. I would support more police funding if I thought it did anything to deter crime, solve crime, or protect a community. All I see is lots and lots of funding and excuses for poor outcomes.

Why bother with tactical gear and weapons if the police will stand around outside? Why bother even calling the cops?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know what would solve this problem? Police in schools. OH we have police in schools? Well then, MORE police in schools. Maybe we should just make schools into police stations. That will solve our problems!

No, we need sharpshooters in every school. At every possible entrance.

Duh.

There was no armed officer inside the school and the doors were unlocked, and children died. No amount of your sarcasm can change that. But if the doors were locked and there was an armed officer inside, chances are that the gunman would not have gotten in at all.

If an 18yo couldn’t buy an AR-15 he wouldn’t have been there at all.

Sure he would have.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Police do not run into a situation guns ablazed… that’s not how police are trained. Police followed training.

But I do wonder how the good guys with guns are supposed to drop rational thinking and just storm into a situation?? The good guy with a gun theory is magical thinking! It’s a lie peddled by the NRA.

Doesn’t matter. Kids are in classroom getting murdered- you rush in. ANY one would say that is the right thing to do. Police know that too...they were just too afraid and can claim “training protocols”

Law enforcement has a fairly stable percentage of support for the assault weapons ban because they know that getting shot by one of them basically pulverizes everything within your body, and the wounds aren’t survivable. That’s why they didn’t go in. That’s why. They aren’t agents of public safety. They are armed soldiers for the state, by and large. There are exceptions in terms of departments and roles, but make no mistake. We have witnessed a department that lies, that shamelessly puts forth as an explainer ‘they (police) could have gotten shot’ — why would they do that? Because they know there is no expectation, no career consequence, certainly no job loss, for failure to help. None. None.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't hate the cops, in fact I think they are much needed which is why I don't think comments. Fillions need assault rifles. Slice it how you want but the cops did not go into that school because that kid had an assault rifle and would have mowed them down. That's a problem. The only for society and our children but for law enforcement

The way I see it, if you voted for Greg Abbott you don’t to complain about bad guys having AR-15s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Police do not run into a situation guns ablazed… that’s not how police are trained. Police followed training.

But I do wonder how the good guys with guns are supposed to drop rational thinking and just storm into a situation?? The good guy with a gun theory is magical thinking! It’s a lie peddled by the NRA.

Doesn’t matter. Kids are in classroom getting murdered- you rush in. ANY one would say that is the right thing to do. Police know that too...they were just too afraid and can claim “training protocols”

Law enforcement has a fairly stable percentage of support for the assault weapons ban because they know that getting shot by one of them basically pulverizes everything within your body, and the wounds aren’t survivable. That’s why they didn’t go in. That’s why. They aren’t agents of public safety. They are armed soldiers for the state, by and large. There are exceptions in terms of departments and roles, but make no mistake. We have witnessed a department that lies, that shamelessly puts forth as an explainer ‘they (police) could have gotten shot’ — why would they do that? Because they know there is no expectation, no career consequence, certainly no job loss, for failure to help. None. None.

Yep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know what would solve this problem? Police in schools. OH we have police in schools? Well then, MORE police in schools. Maybe we should just make schools into police stations. That will solve our problems!

No, we need sharpshooters in every school. At every possible entrance.

Duh.

There was no armed officer inside the school and the doors were unlocked, and children died. No amount of your sarcasm can change that. But if the doors were locked and there was an armed officer inside, chances are that the gunman would not have gotten in at all.

If an 18yo couldn’t buy an AR-15 he wouldn’t have been there at all.

Sure he would have.

He bought it right after his birthday. If he couldn’t buy one he wouldn’t have one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know what would solve this problem? Police in schools. OH we have police in schools? Well then, MORE police in schools. Maybe we should just make schools into police stations. That will solve our problems!

The school had no resource officer on premise, armed or otherwise.

I guarantee you that if there was a proper perimeter fence, locked doors and and armed resource officer, as well as signs posted saying that adults on premise were armed and ready to engage, the shooting would never have happened. These cowards go for easy targets. Stop making things easier for them WHILE you work on legislation.

You want to treat the symptoms without getting to the cause. Easy access to weapons of mass destruction.

Treating the cause takes time. It’s also not nearly as easy.

It’s easy enough to ban AR-15s.

Congress can do it after break. Fast and easy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought w the confer block walls and fire safe heavy locked door even Bartoc unit needed advanced ways to enter the classroom.

Unclear in the window situation from outside.

A key?

[Anonymous]

From CNN:

“Miah said she was scared the gunman would return to her classroom to kill her and a few other surviving friends. So, she dipped her hands in the blood of a classmate – who lay next to her, already dead — and then smeared the blood all over herself to play dead…She said afterwards, she overheard talk of police waiting outside the school. As she recounted this part of the story during the interview, she started crying, saying she just didn’t understand why they didn’t come inside and rescue them.“

[Anonymous]

she overheard talk of police waiting outside the school. As she recounted this part of the story during the interview, she started crying, saying she just didn’t understand why they didn’t come inside and rescue them.“

They were "establishing a perimeter" and yelling at and pushing around parents. #Heroes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know what would solve this problem? Police in schools. OH we have police in schools? Well then, MORE police in schools. Maybe we should just make schools into police stations. That will solve our problems!

The school had no resource officer on premise, armed or otherwise.

I guarantee you that if there was a proper perimeter fence, locked doors and and armed resource officer, as well as signs posted saying that adults on premise were armed and ready to engage, the shooting would never have happened. These cowards go for easy targets. Stop making things easier for them WHILE you work on legislation.

Oh do you guarantee that?

Remember Parkland?

Remember that a lot of the shooters expect to die while they are slaughtering children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How, if in Texas everyone is ok with just buying an assault rifle at a local sporting goods store, do police not have a supply of them to bring to such a situation? Don’t they have those armored vehicles we bought them?
And couldn’t they have just gone to the same sporting goods store and picked up the same gun and rounds of ammunition as they leisurely drove to the school?

I am sure the truth of what happened is even worse than what the police are sharing, though it strains me to imagine how that could be at this point.

They had the weaponry. The did not have the tactical equipment to protect themselves. They still should have gone in

Why do we have a militarized police force that is too scared or unprepared to actually protect people when they need it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know what would solve this problem? Police in schools. OH we have police in schools? Well then, MORE police in schools. Maybe we should just make schools into police stations. That will solve our problems!

No, we need sharpshooters in every school. At every possible entrance.

Duh.

There was no armed officer inside the school and the doors were unlocked, and children died. No amount of your sarcasm can change that. But if the doors were locked and there was an armed officer inside, chances are that the gunman would not have gotten in at all.

If an 18yo couldn’t buy an AR-15 he wouldn’t have been there at all.

Exactly.

Do all these armed guard folks work for the gun industry? Funny how the nra solution involves thousands and thousands of schools districts having to buy more and more weapons. F off nra. We want less of these horrible weapons, not more

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I don't WANT to live in a world that is set up like a prison! I want people not to be walking around with military weapons that any violent yahoo can buy from a corner effing stoe!