Half of British women reach age 30 without having a child

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Y’all are acting thick about what brunch really is. Brunch is single yuppies or shacking up yuppies of prime marriage and baby-making age who are so freaking bored, immature and idle they go get drunk at breakfast on the weekends. It’s basically a continuation of teenagers tailgating the “big game” at some state college. Often taking their dog, you know, instead of a baby. It was certainly popularized nationally by SATC. It’s extended adolescence by a demo that ought to be married and procreating. Instead they were unserious and indulgent, layabouts getting fat and bombed at weekend brunch, talking about their pointless careers and next vacation. Pointlessly pissing away hours, days, years as your your fertility ticks away.

OMG that sounds amazing! I was too busy with my career in my 20s to do that often, but I still didn't procreate until 34. LOL.

[Anonymous]

This is why

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1034072.page

And all the posts like this.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t know anyone who had a child before 30. And I got married young. I had my first at 30 and was one of the youngest.

Imagine being smug about waiting until your 30s to have your first child. High probability you and/or your husband die before you experience the joy of grandchildren.

I absolutely do not care whether I live long enough to meet my grandchildren. My mother married young, had me young but still died when her first grandchild was 14 months old because the time she grew up in encouraged smoking. Your life is about more than your children and grandchildren, I hope.

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Anonymous wrote:What the hell do you expect?

Wages don't grow. Housing is completely unaffordable. Childcare costs are insane. Healthcare is ludicrous. Even if you had kids, stupid minivan to haul them around to soccer practice now costs $40k. And don't even talk about college costs....

You want to die in poverty? Have a kid.

Younger generations didn't create these problems. They're the ones that have to live with them though. The only solution is to not have kids just so that you can keep your financial head above water.

It's not money, it's decades of Hollywood and feminist propaganda. It's "cool" and "sophisticated" and "worldly" to piss away your prime fertility years living in the big city and traveling and waiting two hours to be seated for a hip brunch and rising the ladder at your make-work career, so you can piss more money away on shoes, travel, and instagram-worthy furniture. #GirlBoss #LeanIn

And another thing, if money is so tight, why does basically every gal under age 40 on my Facebook have a master's or law degree? Racking up six-figures of debt and flushing two to three years of peak fertility down the drain on a worthless overpriced degree, which they seek for status purposes.

Wow I got a law degree in my 20s and am still practicing decades later. So I got my degree not for status purposes, or to attract a mate, but to, you know, earn a living. Is that okay, or are only men allowed to get master's level degrees?

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Anonymous wrote:If you grew up in a big family like mine with 8 kids, you would understand why people do not want kids

No I had self control and stopped at one.
You must really hate your life.

DP.. my mom had four, and I'm fairly certain she only wanted two. But, she comes from a culture and time when birth control was not widely used.

Every one of my siblings has less than 2 -- 0, 1, 2 and 2.

My SIL is one of 8 girls, and she has no kids of her own and very few nieces and nephews.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t know anyone who had a child before 30. And I got married young. I had my first at 30 and was one of the youngest.

Imagine being smug about waiting until your 30s to have your first child. High probability you and/or your husband die before you experience the joy of grandchildren.

I absolutely do not care whether I live long enough to meet my grandchildren. My mother married young, had me young but still died when her first grandchild was 14 months old because the time she grew up in encouraged smoking. Your life is about more than your children and grandchildren, I hope.

It doesn’t even make sense. If your child follows the same path, you should be alive to meet the grandkids assuming average lifespans. Math and all that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What the hell do you expect?

Wages don't grow. Housing is completely unaffordable. Childcare costs are insane. Healthcare is ludicrous. Even if you had kids, stupid minivan to haul them around to soccer practice now costs $40k. And don't even talk about college costs....

You want to die in poverty? Have a kid.

Younger generations didn't create these problems. They're the ones that have to live with them though. The only solution is to not have kids just so that you can keep your financial head above water.

It's not money, it's decades of Hollywood and feminist propaganda. It's "cool" and "sophisticated" and "worldly" to piss away your prime fertility years living in the big city and traveling and waiting two hours to be seated for a hip brunch and rising the ladder at your make-work career, so you can piss more money away on shoes, travel, and instagram-worthy furniture. #GirlBoss #LeanIn

And another thing, if money is so tight, why does basically every gal under age 40 on my Facebook have a master's or law degree? Racking up six-figures of debt and flushing two to three years of peak fertility down the drain on a worthless overpriced degree, which they seek for status purposes.

Wow I got a law degree in my 20s and am still practicing decades later. So I got my degree not for status purposes, or to attract a mate, but to, you know, earn a living. Is that okay, or are only men allowed to get master's level degrees?

I got mine because I like education. It is fun to learn new things. It is nice to be qualified for high paying jobs.

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Anonymous wrote:I still don't understand why the angry granny is so angry? She hates the pill, brunch, shoe shopping, instagram, FRITATTAS for god's sake, dining out, single women (no hate for single men, I see), tourist traps, federal jobs and townhouses! That's a lot of anger!

I totally agree with Red Pill Granny. These women need to understand that they’re under His Eye. Time to make these Instagram brunchettes into dutiful Handmaids.

Ha! Thanks for the laugh today.

[Anonymous]

I'm not British but I was 1 month shy of 30 before my first was born. My sister was 31 when her first was born. It's more common than people think. Also the AMA needs to be raised to 40 at least at this point...

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Anonymous wrote:The good ones are all snapped up in college or grad school. You don’t have to marry right away, but they are all seriously committed by 25. At least in my own experience - this describes everyone I know in a healthy stable marriage with a reasonably equal partner. Even if they waited to marry/have kids, they were together fairly young.

You need a wider circle. dH and I met at 27 and 29, married now almost 25 years.

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You're the one going psycho and name-calling women who choose to wait until their 30s to have kids. Almost like you're subconsciously getting off on trying to ruin women because you're so broken about your own choices.

Sweetie, you do realize a large percentage of the 50% of women who wait until 30 plus WILL NEVER HAVE BIOLOGICAL CHILDREN, yes?

God, you are such an idiot. Almost 50% of the newborns are from moms over the age of 30.

First births? No, that is not true. How many natural births can a childless woman over 30 have? Typically one or two if they're lucky. Yeah yeah spare me the "friend you know" who had four healthy babies and got pregnant immediately after being on birth control for 20 years. Many won't have one. And of those, how many are unnatural IVF pregnancies with birth defects including autism and peanut allergies? Your quest to rationalize and normalize waiting until you're nearly barren to have children is sickening.

I had my second at 43 y/o, so, if I'd be insane like you, probably 13.

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You're the one going psycho and name-calling women who choose to wait until their 30s to have kids. Almost like you're subconsciously getting off on trying to ruin women because you're so broken about your own choices.

Sweetie, you do realize a large percentage of the 50% of women who wait until 30 plus WILL NEVER HAVE BIOLOGICAL CHILDREN, yes?

God, you are such an idiot. Almost 50% of the newborns are from moms over the age of 30.

First births? No, that is not true. How many natural births can a childless woman over 30 have? Typically one or two if they're lucky. Yeah yeah spare me the "friend you know" who had four healthy babies and got pregnant immediately after being on birth control for 20 years. Many won't have one. And of those, how many are unnatural IVF pregnancies with birth defects including autism and peanut allergies? Your quest to rationalize and normalize waiting until you're nearly barren to have children is sickening.

I had my second at 43 y/o, so, if I'd be insane like you, probably 13.

+1 wth is that ^PP talking about. Most of my good friends, including myself, had their first around or after 30, some after 40. All natural conception, AFAIK.

My sister took clomid; she had her kid in her 20s. She doesn't have a degree; everyone else I know who had kids in their 30s have degrees. Her kids are in their late 20s/30, have degrees, and none of them are looking to have kids right now.

I don't know if that ^PP is a troll or just lives in a religious bubble or something, but most women who are educated are not having kids in their early 20s.

This is a class/education issue.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/01/15/for-most-highly-educated-women-motherhood-doesnt-start-until-the-30s/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I didn't even get married until I was 31. Who wants to start birthing babies in their 20s anymore?

People who want babies. Wait too long and problems arise. Even at 30.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't even get married until I was 31. Who wants to start birthing babies in their 20s anymore?

People who want babies. Wait too long and problems arise. Even at 30.

Even if you end up becoming a parent through adoption, it's not worth it to rush into marriage and then procreation early just to avoid medical problems. Why is fertility the sole determinant of when to bear children, rather than other equally important things like maturity, stability of marital relationship, financial stability, etc.?

[Anonymous]

"I have a bachelor's and a master's degree and have enjoyed a 25 year professional career. I married my husband at 22, after dating for over three years in college. I guess we should have waited another 8 to 15 years so he could go screw around with various women and I could go waste years of my life aimlessly hooking up, traveling, shopping, boozing and ordering frittatas. We could circle back in our 30s with various mental illnesses, baggage, 90% of my viable eggs gone, and be old on our wedding day and miss seeing our grandchildren grow up. Because media and new wave feminism brainwashed you, and millions like you, to think that was the ideal. Marrying shortly after college is "white trash". Being a young bride and a beautiful educated young mother is so "gross". Right."

Did you want to sleep with only one man your whole life? Is your career teaching or another traditionally female dominated field? Why are you obsessed with watching your grandchildren grow up? I wasn't close to the two grandparents I had (the other two died before I was born) because they got married at 22, started popping out babies at 24 and by the time I was born when they were 52, they were interested in traveling and doing things as a couple and weren't that interested in their grandkids.