How did Herndon/Westfield HS go from top to bottom?

Anonymous
FCPS has posted that these are the additional high school students that FCPS high schools are projected to pick up if all the approved housing within their catchment areas is built:

Westfield 769
Marshall 664
South Lakes 623
McLean 508
Edison 229
Oakton 128
Fairfax 118
South County 79
West Potomac 78
Falls Church 77
Lewis 73
Justice 55
Mount Vernon 55
Woodson 44
Chantilly 41
Hayfield 33
Annandale 21
Robinson 13
Langley 10
West Springfield 8
Lake Braddock 7
Madison 4
Herndon 2
Centreville 0

Given the 1500 or so additional students that could come from just Westfield, South Lakes, and Oakton, it seems building a new high school in the southern part of Herndon would be a good idea. Obviously they have to do more for two schools - Marshall and McLean - that receive students from Tysons as well.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:FCPS has posted that these are the additional high school students that FCPS high schools are projected to pick up if all the approved housing within their catchment areas is built:

Westfield 769
Marshall 664
South Lakes 623
McLean 508
Edison 229
Oakton 128
Fairfax 118
South County 79
West Potomac 78
Falls Church 77
Lewis 73
Justice 55
Mount Vernon 55
Woodson 44
Chantilly 41
Hayfield 33
Annandale 21
Robinson 13
Langley 10
West Springfield 8
Lake Braddock 7
Madison 4
Herndon 2
Centreville 0

Given the 1500 or so additional students that could come from just Westfield, South Lakes, and Oakton, it seems building a new high school in the southern part of Herndon would be a good idea. Obviously they have to do more for two schools - Marshall and McLean - that receive students from Tysons as well.


I hope this puts things in perspective for people. This is commiserate with what has been said for years. I was beginning to think a western hs closer to Chantilly and Centreville would *maybe* make more sense, but I’m back solidly in the camp of somewhere closer to or at the Hutchison ES and adjoining park site.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:FCPS has posted that these are the additional high school students that FCPS high schools are projected to pick up if all the approved housing within their catchment areas is built:

Westfield 769
Marshall 664
South Lakes 623
McLean 508
Edison 229
Oakton 128
Fairfax 118
South County 79
West Potomac 78
Falls Church 77
Lewis 73
Justice 55
Mount Vernon 55
Woodson 44
Chantilly 41
Hayfield 33
Annandale 21
Robinson 13
Langley 10
West Springfield 8
Lake Braddock 7
Madison 4
Herndon 2
Centreville 0

Given the 1500 or so additional students that could come from just Westfield, South Lakes, and Oakton, it seems building a new high school in the southern part of Herndon would be a good idea. Obviously they have to do more for two schools - Marshall and McLean - that receive students from Tysons as well.


I hope this puts things in perspective for people. This is commiserate with what has been said for years. I was beginning to think a western hs closer to Chantilly and Centreville would *maybe* make more sense, but I’m back solidly in the camp of somewhere closer to or at the Hutchison ES and adjoining park site.


Herndon High is up 31 students in 3 months. This data is not taking into account the huge number of immigrants that enter HHS monthly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:FCPS has posted that these are the additional high school students that FCPS high schools are projected to pick up if all the approved housing within their catchment areas is built:

Westfield 769
Marshall 664
South Lakes 623
McLean 508
Edison 229
Oakton 128
Fairfax 118
South County 79
West Potomac 78
Falls Church 77
Lewis 73
Justice 55
Mount Vernon 55
Woodson 44
Chantilly 41
Hayfield 33
Annandale 21
Robinson 13
Langley 10
West Springfield 8
Lake Braddock 7
Madison 4
Herndon 2
Centreville 0

Given the 1500 or so additional students that could come from just Westfield, South Lakes, and Oakton, it seems building a new high school in the southern part of Herndon would be a good idea. Obviously they have to do more for two schools - Marshall and McLean - that receive students from Tysons as well.


I hope this puts things in perspective for people. This is commiserate with what has been said for years. I was beginning to think a western hs closer to Chantilly and Centreville would *maybe* make more sense, but I’m back solidly in the camp of somewhere closer to or at the Hutchison ES and adjoining park site.


Herndon High is up 31 students in 3 months. This data is not taking into account the huge number of immigrants that enter HHS monthly.


Maybe? At least at the lower grade levels the population fluctuates.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:FCPS has posted that these are the additional high school students that FCPS high schools are projected to pick up if all the approved housing within their catchment areas is built:

Westfield 769
Marshall 664
South Lakes 623
McLean 508
Edison 229
Oakton 128
Fairfax 118
South County 79
West Potomac 78
Falls Church 77
Lewis 73
Justice 55
Mount Vernon 55
Woodson 44
Chantilly 41
Hayfield 33
Annandale 21
Robinson 13
Langley 10
West Springfield 8
Lake Braddock 7
Madison 4
Herndon 2
Centreville 0

Given the 1500 or so additional students that could come from just Westfield, South Lakes, and Oakton, it seems building a new high school in the southern part of Herndon would be a good idea. Obviously they have to do more for two schools - Marshall and McLean - that receive students from Tysons as well.


I hope this puts things in perspective for people. This is commiserate with what has been said for years. I was beginning to think a western hs closer to Chantilly and Centreville would *maybe* make more sense, but I’m back solidly in the camp of somewhere closer to or at the Hutchison ES and adjoining park site.


Herndon High is up 31 students in 3 months. This data is not taking into account the huge number of immigrants that enter HHS monthly.


That's true. It literally is just FCPS's yield projections as to the number of additional high school students that would attend different high schools if all the currently in-process and approved housing units were built. It doesn't take into account whether more students are moving into existing housing units or whether some of the housing that's been approved is never actually built. But directionally it does suggest where FCPS needs to be planning ahead.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:FCPS has posted that these are the additional high school students that FCPS high schools are projected to pick up if all the approved housing within their catchment areas is built:

Westfield 769
Marshall 664
South Lakes 623
McLean 508
Edison 229
Oakton 128
Fairfax 118
South County 79
West Potomac 78
Falls Church 77
Lewis 73
Justice 55
Mount Vernon 55
Woodson 44
Chantilly 41
Hayfield 33
Annandale 21
Robinson 13
Langley 10
West Springfield 8
Lake Braddock 7
Madison 4
Herndon 2
Centreville 0

Given the 1500 or so additional students that could come from just Westfield, South Lakes, and Oakton, it seems building a new high school in the southern part of Herndon would be a good idea. Obviously they have to do more for two schools - Marshall and McLean - that receive students from Tysons as well.


Link?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:FCPS has posted that these are the additional high school students that FCPS high schools are projected to pick up if all the approved housing within their catchment areas is built:

Westfield 769
Marshall 664
South Lakes 623
McLean 508
Edison 229
Oakton 128
Fairfax 118
South County 79
West Potomac 78
Falls Church 77
Lewis 73
Justice 55
Mount Vernon 55
Woodson 44
Chantilly 41
Hayfield 33
Annandale 21
Robinson 13
Langley 10
West Springfield 8
Lake Braddock 7
Madison 4
Herndon 2
Centreville 0

Given the 1500 or so additional students that could come from just Westfield, South Lakes, and Oakton, it seems building a new high school in the southern part of Herndon would be a good idea. Obviously they have to do more for two schools - Marshall and McLean - that receive students from Tysons as well.


Link?


https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/planning-future/development-review-and-proffer-processes (look at the information under "Residential Development Applications" and search by school pyramid).
Anonymous
Seems like PP should be saying “thanks” since the link was provided.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s really disgusting how much discussion is going into putting down the low SES/ESL kids in the Herndon pyramid and ways to contain those and kids in similar situations walled off from the rest of FCPS. Worse, some of these poor kids are here because of federal and state decisions many well-heeled, blue voters throughout the county support. Oooh, we’re for this and that (so long as we send the newly arrived poor ones to Herndon, keep the old poor ones at Justice and Mount Vernon, the poor Asian ones at Annandale, ….). Barf.


Democrats. So…..


Surprised that this hasn’t been deleted yet.


DCUM only deletes if you say something bad about hispanics or muslims
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Land in Great Falls is crazy expensive.


It’s cheap compared to land in other parts of NoVa.

FCPS has the money.


Yes, FCPS has the money but they spend them in wrong places.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It’s really disgusting how much discussion is going into putting down the low SES/ESL kids in the Herndon pyramid and ways to contain those and kids in similar situations walled off from the rest of FCPS. Worse, some of these poor kids are here because of federal and state decisions many well-heeled, blue voters throughout the county support. Oooh, we’re for this and that (so long as we send the newly arrived poor ones to Herndon, keep the old poor ones at Justice and Mount Vernon, the poor Asian ones at Annandale, ….). Barf.


You think just because Annandale is k-town Korean people live there? LOL Are you still living in the 90's? Koreans left Annandale after they made money. Annandale is a latino barrio now.

by the way.... can't wait for DCUM to delete my post LOL
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s really disgusting how much discussion is going into putting down the low SES/ESL kids in the Herndon pyramid and ways to contain those and kids in similar situations walled off from the rest of FCPS. Worse, some of these poor kids are here because of federal and state decisions many well-heeled, blue voters throughout the county support. Oooh, we’re for this and that (so long as we send the newly arrived poor ones to Herndon, keep the old poor ones at Justice and Mount Vernon, the poor Asian ones at Annandale, ….). Barf.


You think just because Annandale is k-town Korean people live there? LOL Are you still living in the 90's? Koreans left Annandale after they made money. Annandale is a latino barrio now.

by the way.... can't wait for DCUM to delete my post LOL


You are missing the point. Many ugly DCUMers want to fence the so-called undesirables into certain schools, while theirs snowflakes stay untouched. These were examples. It is not disparaging anyone except the racists/classists/elitists.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s really disgusting how much discussion is going into putting down the low SES/ESL kids in the Herndon pyramid and ways to contain those and kids in similar situations walled off from the rest of FCPS. Worse, some of these poor kids are here because of federal and state decisions many well-heeled, blue voters throughout the county support. Oooh, we’re for this and that (so long as we send the newly arrived poor ones to Herndon, keep the old poor ones at Justice and Mount Vernon, the poor Asian ones at Annandale, ….). Barf.


You think just because Annandale is k-town Korean people live there? LOL Are you still living in the 90's? Koreans left Annandale after they made money. Annandale is a latino barrio now.

by the way.... can't wait for DCUM to delete my post LOL


I see lots of Vietnamese/Laos students from Annandale.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s really disgusting how much discussion is going into putting down the low SES/ESL kids in the Herndon pyramid and ways to contain those and kids in similar situations walled off from the rest of FCPS. Worse, some of these poor kids are here because of federal and state decisions many well-heeled, blue voters throughout the county support. Oooh, we’re for this and that (so long as we send the newly arrived poor ones to Herndon, keep the old poor ones at Justice and Mount Vernon, the poor Asian ones at Annandale, ….). Barf.


You think just because Annandale is k-town Korean people live there? LOL Are you still living in the 90's? Koreans left Annandale after they made money. Annandale is a latino barrio now.

by the way.... can't wait for DCUM to delete my post LOL


You are missing the point. Many ugly DCUMers want to fence the so-called undesirables into certain schools, while theirs snowflakes stay untouched. These were examples. It is not disparaging anyone except the racists/classists/elitists.


Also if you look at the posts immediately before this one you are construing as somehow offensive, the posters were outright suggesting ways to re-align things so the poor kids in Westfield and other western areas nearby were resctricted to Herndon. Sheesh.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s really disgusting how much discussion is going into putting down the low SES/ESL kids in the Herndon pyramid and ways to contain those and kids in similar situations walled off from the rest of FCPS. Worse, some of these poor kids are here because of federal and state decisions many well-heeled, blue voters throughout the county support. Oooh, we’re for this and that (so long as we send the newly arrived poor ones to Herndon, keep the old poor ones at Justice and Mount Vernon, the poor Asian ones at Annandale, ….). Barf.


You think just because Annandale is k-town Korean people live there? LOL Are you still living in the 90's? Koreans left Annandale after they made money. Annandale is a latino barrio now.

by the way.... can't wait for DCUM to delete my post LOL


I see lots of Vietnamese/Laos students from Annandale.


Annandale has about an average percentage of Asian kids for an FCPS high school (18%), but they are more likely now to have parents from Vietnam or Pakistan than Korea. The Koreans own many of the businesses in Annandale, but live in areas like Centreville, Chantilly, and Rockville. And while the Annandale area as a whole is still majority white, the school-age population is now majority Hispanic.

I don't think anyone ever set out to concentrate poverty at AHS or HHS. Rather, they made a series of incremental decisions that seemed convenient at the time, and which they knew would be less likely to prompt dissent than other alternatives, that over time have led to this result. Sending Herndon kids in Great Falls to Langley in the mid-90s and Annandale kids living outside the Beltway to Woodson in the early-10s are two such examples.
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