What is women’s obsession with “well-educated” men?

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Anonymous wrote:In our society a human's worth is often equated to their pedigree, wealth, educational and professional success. Personal qualities like character, kindness and intellect are really low on social score.

People with character, kindness and intellect are not absent from the ranks of the well educated, and believing that they are suggests that (at least) one of those characteristics is lacking in you.

Oh please. This forum exists in large part so women can gripe about how few men there are tall enough, educated enough, and mostly wealthy enough to meet their exacting standards.

You sound so kind, intellectual, and full of character!

[Anonymous]

We want both - well educated and well endowed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Because 90% of the (straight) men out there have such fragile egos that they can’t handle having an significant other who has a fancier degree than they do.


I didn’t go to an Ivy, but possibly a more “intimidating” school, and then I earned a few graduate degrees from very good schools.* SO SO many men out there with chips on their shoulders. Sometimes it doesn’t come out until later, sometimes it comes out within the first five minutes (and this is when the GUY asks where I went to school).

My husband still gets defensive and huffy about it about is the blue (although he hid it for a long time).

You can forestall all that man-baby nonsense if you just have it as a criteria…

*standard disclaimer for the fragile egos out there that I know people with similar degrees who are idiots, and plenty of very smart people without such degrees, as well as plenty of not so smart people without fancy degrees who make significantly more money than smart people with fancy degrees

I’ve never in my life known a man who cares about a woman’s degree(s). At all. It’s just not even remotely on the list for 99% of men. I’d suggest you do some introspection. You seem really bitter and want to blame it on your Masters degree from the Kennedy school? Go get some cats.

Man here. Yeah I do care about a woman’s degree and education. It’s very important to me. I am a “well educated” man, went to a decent UG and Top business school in my late 20s. I want my kids to do the same and a woman with a similar education level can help with that

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I went to an Ivy but also have a lot of working class family (my mom was first in her family to go to college). My experience is that most men who aren’t well-educated without a compelling reason are interested in stuff that most women are just not interested in talking about (a big one being sports). I also think a lot of women want to stunt on their friends.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to an Ivy but also have a lot of working class family (my mom was first in her family to go to college). My experience is that most men who aren’t well-educated without a compelling reason are interested in stuff that most women are just not interested in talking about (a big one being sports). I also think a lot of women want to stunt on their friends.

This is true as well. I’m the same guy from the comment above and I’ve noticed with certain male friends throughout life who weren’t educated fit exactly into that mold. All they knew about were sports and dude bro podcasts like Joe Rogan. The more educated guys I’ve been friends with have a much more interesting palate. No surprise women are more attracted to that

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Women prefer financially stable men; increased wealth often brings more politically conservative views. Educated men, whether Rep or Dem, are typically savvy enough to appear moderate on social issues. Educated women do not want to be embarrassed by a husband spewing racist, sexist Trump-isms.

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As a Black woman, a Black man (this is who I mostly date) who has gotten to and through college and has a thriving career says a lot about who he is and what he values. Other women can and do use different criteria when dating including dating blue collar workers and that's OK since different people like different things.

Also, my parents aren't blue collar workers and have several degrees between them. Many in my family are small business owners without college degrees and yes, they certainly are wealthy, but as a kid all I saw was them working long hours and never actually getting to enjoy the fruits of their labor. I am not interested in that lifestyle with my partner or for my family.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why you are confused by this. I guess Ivy Tower and all… My sister and I are the only ones that went to college out of my cousins and aunts and uncles on one side. There is big difference between them and me. Yes, they own successful auto body shops or some do more menial labor because they weren’t as lucky, but it’s not about money. They don’t like to travel to Europe or go to museums. They prefer different activities. The restaurants they frequent are different. They don’t like to read like I do. I love them. But it’s really obtuse to not understand why some one educated would like a peer that values education.

lol this has to be a troll

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why you are confused by this. I guess Ivy Tower and all… My sister and I are the only ones that went to college out of my cousins and aunts and uncles on one side. There is big difference between them and me. Yes, they own successful auto body shops or some do more menial labor because they weren’t as lucky, but it’s not about money. They don’t like to travel to Europe or go to museums. They prefer different activities. The restaurants they frequent are different. They don’t like to read like I do. I love them. But it’s really obtuse to not understand why some one educated would like a peer that values education.

lol this has to be a troll

I’m not the PP but you obviously have never dealt with low class blue collar folk. They don’t read, don’t care about arts and culture, don’t travel to Europe instead go to FL or Vegas etc.

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Anonymous wrote:It really amazes me the things men complain about. This thread proves that— fundamentally— many men disagree that women should be entitled to preferences whatsoever.

DCUM Men Takes:

1. Women should not be allowed to prefer taller men.
2. Women should not be allowed to prefer wealthier men.
3. Women should not be allowed to prefer mentally stable men.
4. Women should not be allowed to prefer well-educated men.

Ok the first three I try to give some sympathy since there is a genetic and historical component that is outside the man’s control but really? Get online, fill out an application, literally anyone can get an education on this country. Don’t get the test scores? Study. Don’t like the tuition? Get a loan. But this is wholly in your power and you prefer to whine on the internet about women’s preferences instead of studying for the GRE.

I was married, through good times and bad, and you know what was irrelevant to having a worthwhile relationship? Height, wealth, and number of university degrees.

If you can’t pay the rent you’re going to have a lot more bad times.
If you don’t find your spouse sexually attractive you’re going to have a lot more bad times.

And the fact that you think “well educated” means number of degrees suggests you have no idea what we’re talking about in this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We want both - well educated and well endowed.

Lol no. Most women can not handle well endowed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We want both - well educated and well endowed.

Lol no. Most women can not handle well endowed.

False. Most women I know would love a bigger man

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We want both - well educated and well endowed.

Lol no. Most women can not handle well endowed.

False. Most women I know would love a bigger man

How do you know? Did you ask them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a spin-off of another thread where a late 30s woman was asking how to meet men, and of course mentions the “well-educated” criterion multiple times.

I just don’t get this. And I should preface this by saying I’m a guy with an Ivy degree. But would you ladies not consider someone who owns his own construction business or a few Subway franchises and earns $150,000 per year? (Or we could make it 15 Subway franchises and an income of $600,000 if that is your requirement.) This is not about income – that part I understand.

But why the obsession with “well-educated” men? Do you not understand that for many people, going to college/graduate school is a terrible life decision? I mean, there was a recent article about NYU film grads coming out of the Master’s program with $30,000/year jobs and $250,000 in debt. Surely women in their late 30s recognize that the dating market is not skewed in their favor. Why add yet *another* filter that further winnows down your available options?

I'm a woman and agree. I want a man who is intelligent, interesting and curious. That doesn't necessarily mean well-educated.
Some of the most brilliant men I've dated were high school dropouts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why you are confused by this. I guess Ivy Tower and all… My sister and I are the only ones that went to college out of my cousins and aunts and uncles on one side. There is big difference between them and me. Yes, they own successful auto body shops or some do more menial labor because they weren’t as lucky, but it’s not about money. They don’t like to travel to Europe or go to museums. They prefer different activities. The restaurants they frequent are different. They don’t like to read like I do. I love them. But it’s really obtuse to not understand why some one educated would like a peer that values education.

lol this has to be a troll

I’m not the PP but you obviously have never dealt with low class blue collar folk. They don’t read, don’t care about arts and culture, don’t travel to Europe instead go to FL or Vegas etc.

This is totally untrue, in my experience. All of the "uneducated", blue collar men I've dated were FROM Europe or somewhere else, and when they traveled, they went back to their home country. They read way more than my lawyer colleagues, they know way more about arts and culture and food, and most of them actually think most Americans are simple and tacky. It sounds like you're talking about "white trash", not "blue collar folk".